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Mes Caline	Posted - 2009.01.23 02:45:00 - [1] Edited by: Mes Caline on 23/01/2009 02:45:41 great. just busted out 60mil on a rigged t2 fit harbinger. bout to do my usual level 3 runs for the day. mission is called "my sweet privateer". get into first room. -> 3 bs and about 10 cruisers/bc and some frigs. i think wtf that is more like a small level 4. also no bounties and a faction hit against gallente for shooting em. after a few warpouts its done. second room. 4 bs this time, but with a webber tower and like 12 bc/cruisers. they all orbit at 30k and move faster than me (even with AB on) due to me being webbed. so i fly around for a bit until my 200dps tank is broken and warp out. first room -> second room - nice 40k crawl at 300m/s again. warp back in head straight for webber tower. get to 20k from it and my tank breaks and i warp out. i shoot 20k with lasers. . . i stress again. no bounties and faction hit. why oh why ccp. i gave up the mission and took a standing hit to the corp for doing so (i declined a silly courier before). now i cant do level 3s for that corp anymore . . . this has been a rage-quitting two hour piece of bullsh*t to end my stressful night. . . all on my birthday as well =( no reason for this thread just annoyed at the fact it is stupidly hard for a level 3 and someone with only skills for t1 stuff would not do that without help . . . just thought id let you know =p "oh oh amarr are FOTM oh oh lets all train them" . . . no they really arent for pve!
Imperator Jora'h	Posted - 2009.01.23 03:01:00 - [2] Are you getting full aggro from all that? IIRC shooting the webber tower triggers full room aggro. And refit beams on that Harby. Lower damage though they may be chasing people around takes so long there is little benefit. Being able to reach out and touch someone is very handy.
Mes Caline	Posted - 2009.01.23 03:20:00 - [3] Yeah but by the time i was shooting the webber tower the whole room had aggroed me anyway =p stupid sodding missions lol
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2009.01.23 04:12:00 - [4] This is one of the newer missions, and it's quite tough. Are you familiar with eve-survival? Read the mission write-ups there; they really help on things like this. Room 2 has 3 separate groups: one of elite frigates, one of cruisers, and one of battleships. The two missile batteries will shoot at you the entire time, but until you shoot the battleships or the missile batteries you can engage the other ships separately. The only time I ran it, I engaged the frigates first and destroyed them. Then I went after the battlecruisers. Once those were down, I blew up the missile batteries since I had to engage the battleships next anyway. Now, I have to suggest from my experience that you're better off engaging the Megathron immediately and trying to kill it ASAP. Yes, it triggers the reinforcements including the stasis tower. But the bastid has a MWD and a heavy neut, and will kill your capacitor once it gets within about 30 km of you. I tried taking out the Dominixes first, and the Mega zoomed in and dropped me to 25% cap before I could seriously scratch their paint. The second time I just killed it and dealt with the rest. I did have to warp out once with all the reinforcements there. I got swarmed by blaster HACs before I could kill the stasis tower.
Cyb3r D3ath Umbra Legion Shadow Empire.	Posted - 2009.01.23 06:30:00 - [5] I did that solo in my Harb, It was pretty tough but.. goter done!
Opertone Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.01.23 11:56:00 - [6] I want a gigantic kick ass mission for Caldari... Enemies Abound 5 of 5 don't impress me much and I can eat Worlds Collide 4 for breakfast. I need a ton of Battleships and big shoota, less cruisers and a lot of enemy e-war. I'd also prefer some cap draining and Guristas + Blood raiders in the same pocket. Now that's what I call missioning.
Darth Obvious	Posted - 2009.01.23 12:03:00 - [7] Originally by: Opertone I want a gigantic kick ass mission for Caldari... Enemies Abound 5 of 5 don't impress me much and I can eat Worlds Collide 4 for breakfast. I need a ton of Battleships and big shoota, less cruisers and a lot of enemy e-war. I'd also prefer some cap draining and Guristas + Blood raiders in the same pocket. Now that's what I call missioning. This mission exists already. It's called 'Alluring Emanations'.
Malar Velrom	Posted - 2009.01.23 13:28:00 - [8] isnt alluring emanations the one with tons and tons and tons of drones that spawn? in the hidden asteroid belt or something?
Tippia Raddick Explorations BlackWater.	Posted - 2009.01.23 13:30:00 - [9] Originally by: Malar Velrom isnt alluring emanations the one with tons and tons and tons of drones that spawn? in the hidden asteroid belt or something? Yes. Whopping great wads of alloys if you can be arsed with killing them all, but far easier to just warp in, pop the trigger, collect reward…
Animka Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.01.23 13:46:00 - [10] Edited by: Animka on 23/01/2009 13:47:29 Originally by: Mes Caline why oh why ccp. But, but, how can you say that?? Missioning in Empire is extremly easy and profitable. It takes a new player only 2 weeks to train for a battleship and all the other skills, to get enough experience, and here ya go - you can sleep through any mission, making 40m isk/hour. Maybe you doing something horribly wrong....
Salliene Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2009.01.23 13:59:00 - [11] Edited by: Salliene on 23/01/2009 13:59:27 Originally by: Animka But, but, how can you say that?? Missioning in Empire is extremly easy and profitable. It takes a new player only 2 weeks to train for a battleship and all the other skills, to get enough experience, and here ya go - you can sleep through any mission, making 40m isk/hour. Maybe you doing something horribly wrong.... I see your sarcasm and it fails. She went into the mission 3 separate times and despite being faced with overwhelming odds just said "screw it" and turned around and left with no problem at all. Nothing warp scrambled her, she was never in any real danger, and there was only a minor barely measurable consequence to her standings for not completing the mission. So she goes back to the agent and chooses another of the dozens of level 3 missions that can be completed in minutes and get her 3-5 million paycheck. Let's see what happens when she warps into a similar sized blob of player ships. Where is the step by step walkthrough for that situation? Which member of the gatecamp is the "trigger" that she needs to avoid so that 10 more don't spawn? Which one is the one that drops that phat loot?
Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.23 14:19:00 - [12] Originally by: Darth Obvious This mission exists already. It's called 'Alluring Emanations'. wat?
Animka Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.01.23 14:22:00 - [13] Originally by: Salliene I see your sarcasm and it fails. Oh... Poor me. Originally by: Salliene So she goes back to the agent and chooses another of the dozens of level 3 missions that can be completed in minutes and get her 3-5 million paycheck. Yes, she said something similar to - "i gave up the mission and took a standing hit to the corp for doing so (i declined a silly courier before). now i cant do level 3s for that corp anymore . . . " Oh wait... maybe not. Originally by: Salliene Let's see what happens when she warps into a similar sized blob of player ships. Nothing? While they lag themselves and wait for timers to get a lock on, she warps away?
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2009.01.23 15:03:00 - [14] Last time I did alluring emantions it only spawned the micro drones which weren't worth looting.
Dax Ee'nnach Caldari KAGES LAST CHANCERS Black Mesa Project	Posted - 2009.01.23 17:56:00 - [15] Edited by: Dax Ee''nnach on 23/01/2009 17:56:01 Alluring Emanations is not worth looting. The drones don't have alloys as loot (I guess there was enough complaints about drone alloys destroying the mineral markets) and the drones are more likely to have no salvage - but there are a heluva lot of em.
Caltila	Posted - 2009.01.23 21:15:00 - [16] Er go to another station and do a level 3 agent there? Come back 4 hours later and decline it?
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.23 23:31:00 - [17] If it didn't have the nos I would be okay with it. but throwing a bc into a fight with npc bs, and nos is just a bit silly. although where exactly does the nos come from?
Gavin DeVries	Posted - 2009.01.24 14:42:00 - [18] It's the Megathron that has the nos. The three Domis just have weapons.
Zantei	Posted - 2009.01.24 15:49:00 - [19] I find that it's worth the risk to rat in 0.0, just don't take anything horribly expensive if you're trespassing.
PanKrolik	Posted - 2009.01.26 10:18:00 - [20] Originally by: Opertone I want a gigantic kick ass mission for Caldari... Enemies Abound 5 of 5 don't impress me much and I can eat Worlds Collide 4 for breakfast. I need a ton of Battleships and big shoota, less cruisers and a lot of enemy e-war. I'd also prefer some cap draining and Guristas + Blood raiders in the same pocket. Now that's what I call missioning. Yes we certainly need more spoiled kids in their CNR complaining about missions to easy. Who cares if there are mission runners flying other factions ships. Lets balance everything L3 around Drake and L4 around CNR.
Mithos Victus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.01.26 17:39:00 - [21] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton If it didn't have the nos I would be okay with it. but throwing a bc into a fight with npc bs, and nos is just a bit silly. although where exactly does the nos come from? Yea, I tried to do this mission for the first time on a new combat alt flying a passive Phoon... without realizing that the nos rat listed in the survival guide was a fairly well tanked battleship rat. BS got my cap down to 25% before I decided it best warp out as my hardeners were about to give out. Neither did I realize my warp skills were too poor to fly a passive build... after trying to warp five or six times and seeing my cap regenerate at a stupidly ridiculous rate I took my relays offline and limped back to station. Guess that's what I get for trying to turn the Phoon into a Drake. I know better now tho but still curious why the capless Phoon is one of the higher rated battleclinic builds. Not enough mids for a full blown passive hardener setup IMO. Should be easy to complete in any fairly decent active tanked BS IMO. However, I do all L4s now, so who knows. It would be interesting to go back to that mission in a 1200 active tanked Navythron and see how it pans out. _______________________________________________ [...a lion lurking in the plain]
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.26 17:44:00 - [22] Originally by: Mithos Victus Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton If it didn't have the nos I would be okay with it. but throwing a bc into a fight with npc bs, and nos is just a bit silly. although where exactly does the nos come from? Yea, I tried to do this mission for the first time on a new combat alt flying a passive Phoon... without realizing that the nos rat listed in the survival guide was a fairly well tanked battleship rat. BS got my cap down to 25% before I decided it best warp out as my hardeners were about to give out. Neither did I realize my warp skills were too poor to fly a passive build... after trying to warp five or six times and seeing my cap regenerate at a stupidly ridiculous rate I took my relays offline and limped back to station. Guess that's what I get for trying to turn the Phoon into a Drake. I know better now tho but still curious why the capless Phoon is one of the higher rated battleclinic builds. Not enough mids for a full blown passive hardener setup IMO. Should be easy to complete in any fairly decent active tanked BS IMO. However, I do all L4s now, so who knows. It would be interesting to go back to that mission in a 1200 active tanked Navythron and see how it pans out. last I checked the mission was locked to battleships and nos in missions, yea lets all go fly drakes
Mithos Victus Aurelius Federation Apotheosis of Virtue	Posted - 2009.01.26 18:18:00 - [23] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton last I checked the mission was locked to battleships and nos in missions, yea lets all go fly drakes Nah don't think so, as a corpsmate was complaining a week or two later that his Apocalypse was being cap drained as well. There no problem with a nos against a passive fit as long as you are not forced to use active hardeners due to a less than ideal number of mid slots. Usual capless Drake has around 4-5 cap regen per second, T1 Heavy NOS assume 500 cap 24 sec, so losing 16 cap per sec, with average 4k cap, you have about four minutes to pop it before you're drained. I'd imagine you might cut it close with poor missile skills, but should suffice. Plus, the only real danger in this situation is if your tank is not holding and you no longer have the cap to warp, which ofc depends on how badly your tank is dropping as you can always just pop a few cruisers and level it off, or choose to hit the nos first like most people would do. _______________________________________________ [...a lion lurking in the plain]
Daergaar Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.01.26 18:19:00 - [24] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton Originally by: Mithos Victus Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton If it didn't have the nos I would be okay with it. but throwing a bc into a fight with npc bs, and nos is just a bit silly. although where exactly does the nos come from? Yea, I tried to do this mission for the first time on a new combat alt flying a passive Phoon... without realizing that the nos rat listed in the survival guide was a fairly well tanked battleship rat. BS got my cap down to 25% before I decided it best warp out as my hardeners were about to give out. Neither did I realize my warp skills were too poor to fly a passive build... after trying to warp five or six times and seeing my cap regenerate at a stupidly ridiculous rate I took my relays offline and limped back to station. Guess that's what I get for trying to turn the Phoon into a Drake. I know better now tho but still curious why the capless Phoon is one of the higher rated battleclinic builds. Not enough mids for a full blown passive hardener setup IMO. Should be easy to complete in any fairly decent active tanked BS IMO. However, I do all L4s now, so who knows. It would be interesting to go back to that mission in a 1200 active tanked Navythron and see how it pans out. last I checked the mission was locked to battleships and nos in missions, yea lets all go fly drakes A Drake is by no means required (although I am a Drake specialist myself). It's possible to use a faster ship and outrange the neutralizer, kill everything else and then come back to kill it.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.01.26 18:47:00 - [25] Originally by: Daergaar A Drake is by no means required (although I am a Drake specialist myself). It's possible to use a faster ship and outrange the neutralizer, kill everything else and then come back to kill it. hmm so they changed the battleship lock I was a little short on what I said, With a battleship capacitor I have little trouble dealing with the blood raiders, sometimes several nos cruisers at time. but in the battle cruiser class Amarr comes prenerfed when it comes to level 3 missions imo. the battleships (pve and pvp aspect) and pvp (of the bcs) ability make up for it. dunno about gallente or minmatar, last time I thought about using a myrm for level 3s it could field a full set of ogres don't really want to even think about a cane/cyclone for pve. /me thinks happy smashing face with acs and hail thoughts
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2009.01.26 19:29:00 - [26] You can fit a pretty good passive shield tank on the myrm _______________ <Q> QUANT Hegemony Item Database

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