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Stygian Knight SRBI	Posted - 2009.01.23 08:33:00 - [1] I am curious will this setup be viable in 0.0 ratting against guristas? Please post your comments and suggestions. Lows: 3x Gyro 2 3x Shield Power Relay 2 Mediums: 1x Large Shield Extender 2 1x Ballistic Deflection Field 2 1x Heat Dissipation Field 2 1x 10mn MWD High: 6x 650mm Artillery Cannon 2 (Titanium Sabot M) 1x Medium Nos (actually not needed) Riggs: 3x Core Defence Field Purger I Drones: Hornets How will this setup stand against 3x BS spawns ?
Opertone Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.01.23 08:42:00 - [2] Edited by: Opertone on 23/01/2009 08:42:24 use autocannons, they should work a lot better, also use barrage and ambit extension rigs, add missiles on top. Use passive buffer setup, small booster/repper to recover HP between warps. if you stick to afterburner their missiles won't do much damage to you. That's +70% to tank.
Stygian Knight SRBI	Posted - 2009.01.23 08:45:00 - [3] Edited by: Stygian Knight on 23/01/2009 08:45:46 I have been using armor fit with AC for 6 month for PvP / ratting. My question is about shield fit. And MWD is only used to get in range , not to be used all the time, so in practice it has no effect on my EHP since i only need 1 cycle to get in range (time used by rats to lock me).
Jack Jombardo Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.23 08:49:00 - [4] RIG: 1Purger 1em resitence 1therm resitence MED: 2LSE 1invu 1MWD LOW: 3Gyro 2power relay 1DC HIGH: autocannon + salvager + tractor (or cloak) You don't need that much tank (at last not where I fly my ratting Hurrican) and with this setup you have a nice all-around setup which you might switch to a shild-buffer PvP fitting if needed. PvP: LOW: 3Gyro DC 2* power diagnostic (buffs cap+schild heaviely) MED: MWD + 2LSE + 9 km scram HIGH: autocannon + 2HAM (you don't need heavys as your setup is closerange) or smartbomb+NEUT The PDs enables you to run all active moduls for compareble long time. All resitences 50+ with invu, about 14k buffer with 2*LSE.
ry ry	Posted - 2009.01.23 08:54:00 - [5] Edited by: ry ry on 23/01/2009 08:56:15 if you're going to tank the rats or use an AB, the MWD is ideal to pulse into range. but arties hit at an easy 40-80k with very little effort and whilst your LSE+2x relays isn't a very big passive tank, the cruiser+ rats will only be doing sub-200m/s so you can easily kite them with the AB, frigates can be droned to death. stick with the AB since you're just using it to keep range, see if you can put bigger gins on if you want with the fitting it frees up. maybe change the useless nos for a couple of assault launchers so you can use missiles on frigate rats and save your drone damage for the battleships. don't worry about tracking, since you're faster than the rats, if you fly away from them their transversal will drop to next to nothing.
Opertone Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.01.23 08:55:00 - [6] [Hurricane, New Setup 4] Power Diagnostic System II Power Diagnostic System II Gyrostabilizer II Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Ballistic Deflection Field II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Torrent Assault Missile 'Arbalest' Heavy Assault Missile Launcher I, Torrent Assault Missile Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Vespa II x3 this will be cheaper, better and more usefull. If you like artilleries you may also want to switch to Drake, no offense but they have roughly equal DPS, with greater tank in case of drake.
Jack Jombardo Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.23 09:00:00 - [7] Edited by: Jack Jombardo on 23/01/2009 09:03:41 Edited by: Jack Jombardo on 23/01/2009 09:01:25 My sugestion is NO real PvP setup. But you might be able to quick-refitt for some emergency action without big EM/THERM holes (small group stuff). + resistens rigs are much cheaper compared to purgers (2,5m vis 15m) if you explode ;). Rats don't need a real "mission" tank with kin/therm and 6 schild-reg mods as the OP tryed. So why not use a bit less regen but make it more all-around "able to"? PS: I never lost one do to Rats but against roming hostils and becouse my first fittings had 0% EM resitenc which realy hurts if they come with Zealot/Curse/EMP M Vagas.
Stygian Knight SRBI	Posted - 2009.01.23 09:14:00 - [8] Hey i dont want to PVP in this setup, why everyone is so stubborn on trying to make Autocannon fit , or some quick switch to PvP fit. And ISK is not a problem. I am a billionaire and T2 stuff is better and more cheap than t1 best named. I was just trying to make Arty setup with passive Shield tank against GURISTAS. (why using Invul. field when i could use specific hardener ?) No pvp modules are needed. I am in no fear of hostiles in my area, and if they come, i can just dock take my pvp fit and kick their butts. Oki i flamed you all enough :P cheers
Opertone Caldari Gladiators of Rage Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2009.01.23 09:19:00 - [9] Guristas battleships are rather weak, but if they jam you several times 280 DPS is insufficient to break their tank, because of their shield regeneration and boost cycles. 600 DPS give you more chances to kill them without hassle.
Stygian Knight SRBI	Posted - 2009.01.23 09:22:00 - [10] Edited by: Stygian Knight on 23/01/2009 09:23:31 Originally by: Opertone Guristas battleships are rather weak, but if they jam you several times 280 DPS is insufficient to break their tank, because of their shield regeneration and boost cycles. 600 DPS give you more chances to kill them without hassle. absolutely correct, i had no trouble in killing them myself with AC. Only thing that annoys me is that you have to mwd to them most of the time , since they are usually 20-50km away. And belt stuck can sometimes happen and that is irritating. But how then people kill with Arty's ?

Jack Jombardo Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.23 09:39:00 - [11] Edited by: Jack Jombardo on 23/01/2009 09:45:34 Well then try some agility/speed mods/rigs instead of all this schield-regen and Artys :). But exchanging the heat Amplifire (not hardener) with a second LSE and replacing the kinetik hardener with an Amplifire will make it more passive. With 2LSE your defence is better as with 1LSE + heat. But you will have some waiting times as 3SPR will gimp your cap-reg to much for extesive belt-jumping. So 2SPR + 1PDS might be better on the long run. (still about 276 defense). With 1SPR + 2PDS you'll get enough grid for 6650 T2 + 2* Arbalest HAMs/HMs (or 6*720 + 3% imp) with AWU 5. 241 def which should be enough.
Stygian Knight SRBI	Posted - 2009.01.23 09:48:00 - [12] Edited by: Stygian Knight on 23/01/2009 09:47:51 thx :)
Jack Jombardo Amarr	Posted - 2009.01.23 09:48:00 - [13] quick EFT [Hurricane, New Setup 3] Partial Power Plant Manager: Diagnostic System Partial Power Plant Manager: Diagnostic System Partial Power Plant Manager: Diagnostic System Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M 650mm Artillery Cannon II, EMP M Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I Core Defence Field Purger I
P'uck	Posted - 2009.01.23 11:17:00 - [14] Cheapest way and quickest way: 3 gyros 3 SPR mwd,3xlse biggest ACs you can fit (less ammo usage) 2x medium NOS (1 if you can do without, two is for extra convenience) Shield resist rigs. I know you wanted an arty setup, but they suck for ratting. Anyway. Burn to BS rat (ignore the rest, unless it webs), set "keep at range 500". You could orbit, but meh, it brings your own dps down a wee bit too, probably. Activate the nos(ses) so you actually have cap to burn to the next rat. Looks weird, works like a charm.
Linsyn	Posted - 2009.01.23 11:18:00 - [15] Google PassiveCane
P'uck	Posted - 2009.01.23 11:20:00 - [16] Originally by: Linsyn Google PassiveCane omglol on first hit. Battleclinic is so full of it
ry ry	Posted - 2009.01.23 11:58:00 - [17] Originally by: Opertone this will be cheaper, better and more usefull. If you like artilleries you may also want to switch to Drake, no offense but they have roughly equal DPS, with greater tank in case of drake. do drakes even have turret hardpoints?
Stygian Knight SRBI	Posted - 2009.01.23 14:41:00 - [18] Edited by: Stygian Knight on 23/01/2009 14:43:32 since there is no active topic for AC hurricane i renamed this topic. Here is the AC setup for deep 0.0 guristas ratting. 3x Gyro 2 1x 1600mm 1x Armor Kinetic Hardener 2 1x Ammar Navy MAR 2 (or just mar2) ------ 1x Web 2 1x 10mn MWD 2x Cap Recharger 2 ------ 6x 425 AC 2 (Titanium Sabot M) 1x salvager 1x Tractor beam (or put missiles/cloak whatever) ------ 2x Trimark Armor Pump 1x Anti-Thermic Pump Drones: kinetic (4x hornet / 1x Vespa) +3 implants are desirable if you know you will not lose them: +3 repairs / +3 tracking speed /+3 medium projectile / +3 rate of fire / +3 armor hit points Any comments ?
P'uck	Posted - 2009.01.23 17:07:00 - [19] Plates and rigs make it slow and cumbersome. Try the fit I gave you. I know it looks wrong, but it works very well. Or just do whatever
pyyKtas	Posted - 2009.01.24 10:34:00 - [20] [Hurricane, Ratting] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Armor Thermic Hardener II Armor Kinetic Hardener II Medium Armor Repairer II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, EMP M E50 Prototype Energy Vampire Small Tractor Beam I [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] MWD to rats, nos, orbit and kill. Used same setup on harby against sanshas. Only problems i had was with 3x 1m+ BS +3 Cruiser spawn. And problem was them spawning 50km away. You can fit also bigger guns but damage isnt that much different or EANM for another gyro for faster killing.



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