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chatgris
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Posted - 2009.01.23 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: chatgris on 23/01/2009 11:24:41
I think this idea is best explained with an example. You are in low-sec happily missioning away, and you are set upon by pirates. You are able to send out a system wide distress beacon that people not in your fleet could respond to. (possibly other runners who are not in your fleet, or a corp that has claimed the system and can defend you if you have paid them a fee). It also goes that pirates could "respond" to this beacon as well, leading to more fights possibly occurring away from the standard gates/belts :)
This could also see use in FW areas, where you may have a target pinned down solo, and you ask for anyone to come help back you up (this may be better implemented by being able to select an option where the beacon is only sent to allies or something of the sort).
This simple feature could allow other players to more effectively co-operate, maintain security in a system without needing the overhead to fleet up. As far as I know, the only way to warp to someone is to fleet with them and then warp, be scanned down (far too long for when a quick response is needed), or manually type out the location you are in if you are near a celestial object.
System wide distress beacons also have a lot of precendent in sci-fi shows :) This is not meant to replace fleets, but rather to do just what a distress beacon is intended for: broadcast your location when you need assistance and a fast response is required. |
chatgris
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Posted - 2009.01.23 11:25:00 -
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After some consideration, I have decided to support my own topic  |
Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2009.01.23 13:07:00 -
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Another precedent in sci-fi movies is that not only good guys respond to distress beacons.
Are you prepared for more pirates to arrive when the beacon is sent? Or for traps to be set by priates using the beacon mechanism?
If both answers are yes - I don't see a problem with this idea.
If someone really wants to give everyone in local the ability to warp directly to them, they should be prepared for whatever consequences follow. |
Che Biko
Polytechnique Gallenteenne
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Posted - 2009.01.23 15:56:00 -
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Sorry, I like the idea, but not the exact wording.
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Grann Thefauto
Minmatar
Apeshit Assassins
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Posted - 2009.01.23 17:13:00 -
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This would be a good source of the LOL, but thats what local is for.
Not supported.
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Alon Black
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Posted - 2009.01.23 17:14:00 -
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 Originally by: Santiago Fahahrri
Another precedent in sci-fi movies is that not only good guys respond to distress beacons.
Are you prepared for more pirates to arrive when the beacon is sent? Or for traps to be set by priates using the beacon mechanism?
If both answers are yes - I don't see a problem with this idea.
If someone really wants to give everyone in local the ability to warp directly to them, they should be prepared for whatever consequences follow.
Same, if this means ANYONE - including more pirates could warp to you, I'll sign in support.
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Drake Draconis
Minmatar
Shadow Cadre
Worlds End Consortium
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Posted - 2009.01.23 17:28:00 -
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Not supported.... Local is already there for use of that nature.
Granted its a perfectly good idea.... and a valid one logistically... balanced in the fact that the risks of calling attention to yourself is not necessarily a good thing as well.
But again... it would cause more harm than good on the server as I can see it now...
Imagine if you will... a 1000 ship vs 1000 ship fleet fight and in the middle of all of that... a couple hundred decide to broadcast a distress signal.
/me shudders
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chatgris
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Posted - 2009.01.23 21:13:00 -
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While I admit to being somewhat of a carebear, I am definitely of the opinion that pirates could respond exactly the same as any other player in the system.
I had previously stated this with.
"It also goes that pirates could "respond" to this beacon as well, leading to more fights possibly occurring away from the standard gates/belts :)"
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chatgris
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Posted - 2009.01.23 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Drake Draconis
Imagine if you will... a 1000 ship vs 1000 ship fleet fight and in the middle of all of that... a couple hundred decide to broadcast a distress signal.
The overhead would be similar to that of sending a message in a channel, and if you recall the live dev blog, hundreds of people were messaging simultaneously without lag.
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chatgris
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Posted - 2009.01.23 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Grann Thefauto
This would be a good source of the LOL, but thats what local is for.
Not supported.
But you can't warp to someone in local, can you?
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Thebro Nobrunder
Schrodinger's Renegades
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Posted - 2009.01.23 21:18:00 -
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No, local doesn't work for this purpose.
local> help help I'm being shot
somebody> where are you
local> I'm in belt 3-2
somebody warps to 3-2 70km from you.
by this time you are already dead
Even worse if you have to do the whole fleet invite warp to member thingy.
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chatgris
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Posted - 2009.01.23 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Thebro Nobrunder
No, local doesn't work for this purpose.
local> help help I'm being shot
somebody> where are you
local> I'm in belt 3-2
somebody warps to 3-2 70km from you.
by this time you are already dead
Even worse if you have to do the whole fleet invite warp to member thingy.
This is EXACTLY why I am proposing this feature. I was just checking that something analagous to it didn't already exist.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.23 21:57:00 -
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You think that people are going to respond to a beacon by a unknown person in an unknown location where unknown activities are taking place? I think not. Leave this mechanic in Star Trek shows where it belongs. |
eliminator2
Gallente
Young Enterprise
Free Trade Zone.
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Posted - 2009.01.23 22:09:00 -
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i lawled at this
1 pirates will come and gank u (i wouldnt gank but id come and wait for anti-pirates comin)
2nd local is your friend/corp/allaince/wattever else
plus distress calls would be spammed in fleet battles to cause lag and d/c's |
chatgris
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Posted - 2009.01.23 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: eliminator2
i lawled at this
1 pirates will come and gank u (i wouldnt gank but id come and wait for anti-pirates comin)
2nd local is your friend/corp/allaince/wattever else
plus distress calls would be spammed in fleet battles to cause lag and d/c's
They very well may come gank me, but if I am already screwed, I'll take my chances :) I am under no delusion that this is a safe thing to do, it's a DESPERATE thing to do.
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Herschel Yamamoto
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2009.01.24 05:06:00 -
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Funny, and I do like the idea of being able to throw a bookmark into local, but not worth the effort of implementing. |
FunzzeR
Counter Errorist Unit
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Posted - 2009.01.24 07:33:00 -
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Interesting idea, only if pirates could make use of it. Either by being able to warp to the beacon, or having the ability to use it setup a trap. |
Neesa Corrinne
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.01.24 22:28:00 -
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I'm completely and totally in agreement with this idea, but ONLY if everyone in system can warp to it.
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Abuta Beki
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Posted - 2009.01.25 00:30:00 -
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Edited by: Abuta Beki on 25/01/2009 00:29:53
I'm in favor of such a mechanism.
Not exactly like this, but similar. Only if it can be implemented without too much of a hazzle. It is not worth as much time investment on part of the Devs as the more important features. Many many many of them. Yet, if it should happen to be included as a byproduct, or as something the devs have thought of for some time anyway, I'd be happy about the additional option. |
evilphoenix
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.26 14:54:00 -
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I would gladly respond to distress signals. |
Efrim Black
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Posted - 2009.01.26 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: chatgris
While I admit to being somewhat of a carebear, I am definitely of the opinion that pirates could respond exactly the same as any other player in the system.
I had previously stated this with.
"It also goes that pirates could "respond" to this beacon as well, leading to more fights possibly occurring away from the standard gates/belts :)"
As long as it's free for all - Supported.
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Axel Vindislaga
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Posted - 2009.01.26 18:01:00 -
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Cool Idea! It would have to be lowsec only and low population only as it would be very easily abused.
Homing in on distress signals could lead you straight into a trap..Responding to a signal would be only for the daring Not me
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Saladin
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.01.26 18:15:00 -
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Like most people here, I will support it with the stipulation that anyone can warp to it. However, to make things interesting, I would suggest that this feature be available ONLY in low sec. In high sec there are wars and criminal flagging, and in 0.0 space there is no law and hence no such thing as piracy. This option would be a very neat way to distinguish low sec from other parts of EvE |
Teviq Vux
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Posted - 2009.01.27 01:43:00 -
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I would gladly drop a fake distress beacon in order to bait someone to my camp of friends in cloaked Ravens.
Supported!  |
Jason Edwards
Internet Tough Guy
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Posted - 2009.01.27 04:00:00 -
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please no distress signal.
I'm annoyed enough by people in the same system as me. I dont need even more annoyance.
If you are being attacked. You can always fleet people in local and get them going to you.
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Caleb Ayrania
TarNec
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Posted - 2009.01.27 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jason Edwards
please no distress signal.
I'm annoyed enough by people in the same system as me. I dont need even more annoyance.
If you are being attacked. You can always fleet people in local and get them going to you.
Thats not even close to the same feature suggested..
I Love the idea of linking to location. If this was any bookmark that could be linked like that and the distress was simply a quick emergency version of it..
If made right this might end up being the coolest feature ever added to EVE imho.
You could then make bookmarks, copy them, send them by mail, put them in cans, use them as distress calls, stack them in sets to fly formations or races in fields..
Extremely many possibilities in this I dont just support it I DEMAND IT... BEG FOR IT...WISH IT...
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Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
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Posted - 2009.01.27 08:29:00 -
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is good stuff, will be fun for pirates and give antipirates another tool
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Captain Thunk
Vale Tudo.
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Posted - 2009.01.27 09:08:00 -
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This will end up being used most by spies in an alliance already in gang to give a warp in point on the fleet that they're currently in. Yes, it will give them away but it requires absolutely no roles or anything so is the easiest of spies to replace.
Captain Thunk |
Furb Killer
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Posted - 2009.01.27 10:06:00 -
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Those spies can also drop fleet and join the enemy fleet.
Good idea btw, everyone should be able to warp to it.
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Originally by: Neth'Rae
Military experts are calling this a troll.
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Antimony Noske
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Posted - 2009.01.27 11:26:00 -
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Having been in 0.0 for awhile now, I do say that this would be fantastic.
For pirates and ratters alike.
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