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        |  Tiberius Rhavinia
 Fatal Endeavors Incorporated
 
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       | Posted - 2012.04.19 09:04:00 -
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 Returning char here.
 
 So, what happened to the days of disco-gangs in Jita Popping everything left and right? I can't imagine that the arty changes altered the smart-bomb ability to clear an entire undock point of everything but battleships and freighters.
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        |  Sutskop
 PILSGESCHWADER
 Monkey Circus
 
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       | Posted - 2012.04.19 09:25:00 -
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 You cannot smartbomb in dockrange.
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        |  Eryn Velasquez
 Republic Military School
 Minmatar Republic
 
 15
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.19 09:28:00 -
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 Would'nt mind if they also changed that for jump-range at the gates in hisec ...
 Suicide gankers - Silly griefing kiddies, annoying like dog poop under my shoes
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        |  Celeritas 5k
 Connoisseurs of Candid Coitus
 
 30
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.19 10:03:00 -
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 Eryn Velasquez wrote:Would'nt mind if they also changed that for jump-range at the gates in hisec ... 
 GTFO
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        |  Vaal Erit
 Science and Trade Institute
 Caldari State
 
 161
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.19 10:37:00 -
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 Well you don't get insurance anymore if CONCORD nabs ya. So BS are too expensive to suicide with unless you get a really good cluster of macks. The tornado is cheaper and gets a really good alpha but with rising mineral prices it too is a rather expensive tool.
 
 We use t2 fit catalysts to gank miners in high sec and canes/brutix/tornados to gank haulers in high sec now.
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        |  Dominus Alterai
 Ordo Drakonis
 Nulli Secunda
 
 75
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.19 14:30:00 -
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 Vaal Erit wrote:Well you don't get insurance anymore if CONCORD nabs ya. So BS are too expensive to suicide with unless you get a really good cluster of macks. The tornado is cheaper and gets a really good alpha but with rising mineral prices it too is a rather expensive tool.
 We use t2 fit catalysts to gank miners in high sec and canes/brutix/tornados to gank haulers in high sec now.
 
 Confirming DPS fit Catalyst pwns hulks.
 Illigitimate son of Korako "The Rabbit" Kosakami.
 
 Ship miner/corpse collector extrordinaire.
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        |  Tiberius Rhavinia
 Fatal Endeavors Incorporated
 
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       | Posted - 2012.04.19 20:09:00 -
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 Largely wondering because it would seem quite plausible to nab enough to make up for losses at a station undock with numerous haulers.
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        |  Jack Miton
 Lapse Of Sanity
 Exhale.
 
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       | Posted - 2012.04.19 20:59:00 -
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 Tornadoes happened.
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        |  Reppyk
 The Black Shell
 
 100
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.19 21:43:00 -
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 Tiberius Rhavinia wrote:They all died because of AIDS. You know, back in the days, we were all --oh wait. You mean, the other disco gangs ? Ah sorry I don't know.So, what happened to the days of disco-gangs in Jita Popping everything left and right? | 
      
      
        |  Aqriue
 Center for Advanced Studies
 Gallente Federation
 
 582
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.20 01:13:00 -
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 Because players suddenly couldn't use expensive battleships and get their money back to soften the blow when they got GCC. Then they got tier 3 battlecruisers fitting battleship guns and catalysts with buffed hybrids amble to smash up hulks at a fraction of the value.
 
 Talk about risk adverse (yes I am going there
  ) pilots, they suddenly get the advantage for more destruction but they refuse to allow hulks the chance to get a buff as well in turn to deal with the buffs of other ships. All they can say is "Like, fit tank mods and junk or gag on a spoon" because these same guys belive the hulk pilot needs to take action into their own hands. But Titans got nerfed in regards to loud bellyaching bitching about XL titan guns ganking sub capital ships (not much different then hulks), players unwilling to take action into their own hands by stepping up into capital ships that don't pop to Tital XL guns. Its so...hypocritical that Titans get nerfed down but the Hulk can't get buffed up since the Titan ganked sub cap ships while the Hulk gets ganked with low cost ships. | 
      
      
        |  Surfin's PlunderBunny
 Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
 
 1025
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.20 03:42:00 -
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 Dominus Alterai wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:Well you don't get insurance anymore if CONCORD nabs ya. So BS are too expensive to suicide with unless you get a really good cluster of macks. The tornado is cheaper and gets a really good alpha but with rising mineral prices it too is a rather expensive tool.
 We use t2 fit catalysts to gank miners in high sec and canes/brutix/tornados to gank haulers in high sec now.
 Confirming DPS fit Catalyst pwns hulks. 
 750 DPS to be exact
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        |  Aesheera
 Malum Crusis
 
 1
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.20 11:17:00 -
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 Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:750 DPS to be exact   
 3m Destroyer vs 330m Hulk - insurance all of a sudden doesnt matter anymore
  If it bleeds, kill it.
 
 Malum wants you!
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        |  Surfin's PlunderBunny
 Ponies for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
 
 1037
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.21 21:17:00 -
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 Aesheera wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:750 DPS to be exact   3m Destroyer vs 330m Hulk - insurance all of a sudden doesnt matter anymore   
 The different ships have a different purpose... it's like a '59 Chevy Impala vs. a 2012 Ferarri FF in a demolition derby... one's made of steel the other fiberglass
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        |  ICU Andshutup
 Perkone
 Caldari State
 
 1
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.21 21:26:00 -
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 Dominus Alterai wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:Well you don't get insurance anymore if CONCORD nabs ya. So BS are too expensive to suicide with unless you get a really good cluster of macks. The tornado is cheaper and gets a really good alpha but with rising mineral prices it too is a rather expensive tool.
 We use t2 fit catalysts to gank miners in high sec and canes/brutix/tornados to gank haulers in high sec now.
 Confirming DPS fit Catalyst pwns max yield fit  hulks. 
 Fixed it for you
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        |  Lola Humpsalot
 Federal Navy Academy
 Gallente Federation
 
 15
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.21 23:09:00 -
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 Celeritas 5k wrote:Eryn Velasquez wrote:Would'nt mind if they also changed that for jump-range at the gates in hisec ... GTFO 
 
 I peed myself a little...
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        |  Soldarius
 United Highsec Front
 The 99 Percent
 
 207
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.23 09:02:00 -
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 Aqriue wrote:Because players suddenly couldn't use expensive battleships and get their money back to soften the blow when they got GCC. Then they got tier 3 battlecruisers fitting battleship guns and catalysts with buffed hybrids amble to smash up hulks at a fraction of the value.  Talk about risk adverse (yes I am going there   ) pilots, they suddenly get the advantage for more destruction but they refuse to allow hulks the chance to get a buff as well in turn to deal with the buffs of other ships. All they can say is "Like, fit tank mods and junk or gag on a spoon" because these same guys belive the hulk pilot needs to take action into their own hands. But Titans got nerfed in regards to loud bellyaching bitching about XL titan guns ganking sub capital ships (not much different then hulks), players unwilling to take action into their own hands by stepping up into capital ships that don't pop to Tital XL guns. Its so...hypocritical that Titans get nerfed down but the Hulk can't get buffed up since the Titan ganked sub cap ships while the Hulk gets ganked with low cost ships. 
 Titan alt detected. U mad bro? Also, I find your lack of face disturbing.
 
 "How do you kill that which has no life?"
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        |  Eryn Velasquez
 Republic Military School
 Minmatar Republic
 
 26
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.04.23 09:55:00 -
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 Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:Aesheera wrote:Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:750 DPS to be exact   3m Destroyer vs 330m Hulk - insurance all of a sudden doesnt matter anymore   The different ships have a different purpose... it's like a '59 Chevy Impala vs. a 2012 Ferarri FF in a demolition derby... one's made of steel the other fiberglass   
 That's a real funny comparison.
 
 You're looking to a hulk like this:
 
 http://www.dutchcrafters.com/product_images/pid_8033-Amish-Cedar-Wheelbarrow-5.jpg
 
 But you should look at a hulk this way:
 
 http://www.kresscarrier.com/coal.php (weighing >450 tons, strong structure, Wheels > 3,50m)
 
 Suicide gankers - Silly griefing kiddies, annoying like dog poop under my shoes
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