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Vasili vonHolst
Minmatar Gargamel's Lair
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Posted - 2009.01.26 04:59:00 -
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As i understand EVE is mostly CPU intensive. This will be my first venture into EVE "Premium Graphics" Mainly i am interested in:
1. EVE and SLI/Crossfire - Are there significant performance gains in a single client game play, multiple clients?
2. What is the best current GPU and CPU for EVE (better results with? Intel or AMD)
3. Are there any upcoming engine changes i shoudl know about and prepare for with my current upgrade?
Sorry if this in not a "general discussion" thread... just could not seem to find where this belongs. ...And yes i plan on becoming active in eve again. If there is still fun to be had and an efficient and lucrative method to grief bears i will i guarantee i will find it lol.
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Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2009.01.26 05:13:00 -
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How much cash do you have to upgrade?
SLI/Crossfire in my opinion is not worth the money/hassle for the meager gains. Plus you have to upgrade both cards if you ever want to upgrade.
CPU: Intel Core i7 is the KING of processors. AMD has been struggling for a long time, some of there chips are good for price/performance, but core i7 is the best performance by a good margin
GPU: Radeon 4870 x2 and Nvidia GTX 295 are the best, but at a whooping ~$500 USD. If you watch newegg.com you can probably snag a GTX 260 or 4870 1GB for around $200 which is a very good deal.
As far as running multiple clients, you could always get 2x "cheap" computers and 2x monitors and run them both via a KVM switch... |
Abene Placito
Black Legion Command Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.01.26 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit How much cash do you have to upgrade?
SLI/Crossfire in my opinion is not worth the money/hassle for the meager gains. Plus you have to upgrade both cards if you ever want to upgrade.
CPU: Intel Core i7 is the KING of processors. AMD has been struggling for a long time, some of there chips are good for price/performance, but core i7 is the best performance by a good margin
GPU: Radeon 4870 x2 and Nvidia GTX 295 are the best, but at a whooping ~$500 USD. If you watch newegg.com you can probably snag a GTX 260 or 4870 1GB for around $200 which is a very good deal.
As far as running multiple clients, you could always get 2x "cheap" computers and 2x monitors and run them both via a KVM switch...
You hardly need Core i7 or those GPUs for premium. Any Dual Core at or above 2.0 GHz, and any graphics card at/equivalent to or above an 8600 GT/8600m GT will play EVE's premium client at full. I bet you could even get two premium clients out of that. |
Vasili vonHolst
Minmatar Gargamel's Lair
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Posted - 2009.01.26 05:47:00 -
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Thanks for the input so far... Budget is not really an issue (within reason)
As an avid overclocker i plan on running an ic7 @ 4+ghz on water so that should cover the CPU load portion.
As for the vid i am thinking of skimping a little and running a single GTX 280 but if the improvement is drastic in either single or multiple clients i will change to a single 295 or dual 280's.
I like to run 2-3 clients on one PC so this is really where my concerns are (I have no experience with EVE premium gfx and its effects on hardware in a multi client scenario). |
Doragee
Minmatar Unknown Society
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:15:00 -
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Running mostly 2 Clients @windowed (1240/960) with the following: c2d 4500 @2.650 Mhz Asrock Dual SATA2 (el cheapo) 2gb DDR1 (!) nVidia 9600 GT some single IDE HDs
EvE does not need highend hardware to "just play it"... --
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Solaris Operations
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Posted - 2009.01.26 06:21:00 -
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Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 26/01/2009 06:23:36 Two full screen (with EVE mover, so they're windowed on pseudo fullscreen) clients (1680x1050 + 1280x1024) and I have about 80-130 FPS on either. There is however a noticable drop in FPS when I put focus on the other client. So one client will run at full FPS when it has focus, and drop 20-30 FPS when it's out of focus. Wierd.
Intel Core2Duo E6600 @ 2,4 GHz, OCd to 3,2 GHz. 2048 Mb RAM, Kingston Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS 320 Mb (this card is bollox. Get the GTX or the higher mem GTS version if you must have a 8800. The GTS 320 is crap and has loads of bugs) Windows XP SP3.
I mostly run on Linux these days, but due to me playing Forged Alliance via Hamachi with a buddy I need to stick to Windows for now.
EDIT: With the above, I meant to say that this setup is more than enough to run it.
Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change. |
Joss Sparq
Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.26 07:23:00 -
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Edited by: Joss Sparq on 26/01/2009 07:24:57 IMHO the GTX 260 is for most practical purposes as good as the 280 when running a single card, noting that:
Originally by: Wikipedia The GeForce GTX 280 and 260 are based on the same processor core. During the manufacturing process, GTX chips are binned and separated through defect testing of the core's logic functionality. Those that fail to meet the GTX 280 hardware specification are re-tested and binned as GTX 260 (which is specified with fewer stream processors and a narrower memory bus). In late 2008, in order to create more parity between the GTX 260 and the competing HD 4870, Nvidia re-released the GTX 260 with 216 stream processors up from 192. Effectively, there are two GTX 260 cards in production with non-trivial performance differences.
Though remember that either way the unit is almost the size of a European Principality - I'm only exaggerating slightly too, which is what makes it so sad! That being said I am happy with the performance of the GTX 260 in my rig.
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Jasmina Melt
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2009.01.26 08:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmina Melt on 26/01/2009 08:06:57 Not only does SLI/Crossfire has too many issues in general (micro stuttering 4tw), but neither will you gain any fps-boost in EVE, as it can't really do anything with it, especially when running a modern card like a GTX280 or better. As far as CPU, Core i7 already has been mentioned, which indeed is the best processor around at this time, you'll be fine going with that. Premium Engine won't change too much, just the classic client gets replaced with a Premium-Lite version. á á
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Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.01.26 09:22:00 -
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I would avoid ATI cards in this case, it's not that they're bad but their drivers don't allow for custom resolutions, which is what makes it easy to scale windowed EVE resolutions.
It's a pain in the butt ever since I switched from an 8800GTS to a 4870X2.
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