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Shoen Seam Amarr Segunda Fundacion Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.29 11:19:00 - [1] I am currectly flying a Harbinger(very happy with it), and training for a Zealot. I will use the Zealot in Gangs(no problem), but i will use it as a SOLO ship(low sec and 0.0). 1.- Is it viable?. 2.- Any suggestions for fitting? Any idea is wellcome. Thanks in advance
Darth Felin	Posted - 2009.01.29 12:06:00 - [2] Edited by: Darth Felin on 29/01/2009 12:07:19 Solo is not very easy for Zealot but you can try this config: [Zealot, FMP] Medium Armor Repairer II Damage Control II 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II Adaptive Nano Plating II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Warp Disruptor II Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Ancillary Current Router I Anti-Thermic Pump I
Young Destro	Posted - 2009.01.29 12:32:00 - [3] Why not use scorch?
The Djego Minmatar merovinger inc	Posted - 2009.01.29 13:29:00 - [4] A Navy Omen would be better for this, extra Drones and free High for a Neut to get of Scrams or orbitting Frigs, the only realy thing you loose is range.
Haalanii	Posted - 2009.01.29 13:38:00 - [5] Do not attempt this. It always ends badly. Pilgrim, Curse, Sacrilege, Harbinger. Use one of those for solo work. Even the arbitrator is better in many ways (avoid missile / drone boats) and won't waste your isk.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.29 13:53:00 - [6] The problem with a solo zealot is that you kinda need a tank, and since you can't really active tank it, that means putting a buffer on... ... which makes you kinda strictly worse than a harbinger. Plus you don't have the slots for mwd/web/point/injector. You could probably do it of course but you're not really playing to the ship's strengths.
Antimony Noske	Posted - 2009.01.29 14:29:00 - [7] Well, I was playing around with maximizing the buffer on the zealot without taking away its firepower or speed too much, and this is what I came up with: [Zealot, Alternate] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Internal Force Field Array I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Warp Disruptor II Sensor Booster II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Energy Burst Aerator I Energy Collision Accelerator I It has almost a 31,000 EHP buffer, can travel at ~1553m/s in bursts, and maintains ~480dps with scorch out to around 34km's. The catch is that you need a 1% CPU implant and a 3% PG implant, and level 5 skills in those related fields, in order to fly it. I've seen Zealots with more buffer than this before, but none of them have also fit an MWD.
Endless Subversion The Accursed	Posted - 2009.01.29 14:34:00 - [8] Originally by: Antimony Noske It has almost a 31,000 EHP buffer, can travel at ~1553m/s in bursts, and maintains ~480dps with scorch out to around 34km's. The catch is that you need a 1% CPU implant and a 3% PG implant, and level 5 skills in those related fields, in order to fly it. I've seen Zealots with more buffer than this before, but none of them have also fit an MWD. The CPU implant and the PG implant are both slot 6. Gun CPU implant is a different slot I believe. Seems to me the worst part of the solo zealot solo is that it has no real options for escaping tacklers who manage to get close. To the OP, I'd strongly suggest flying something else for solo.
Reaver Babe	Posted - 2009.01.29 15:28:00 - [9] Zealot makes for a poor solo ship because the optimal bonus is really the only reason to ever use it over a harbinger in any situation, and when soloing you can't take advantage of that bonus because you have to remain within tackle range of the target.
achoura	Posted - 2009.01.29 17:17:00 - [10] If you use a 30k sram then you can both use the bonus and solo. Downgrade to fmp, fit 3 hs instead of two and you've freed up grid, improved tracking and made use of the range bonus + the cap use reduction means you can fit a web for those "oh $!" moments (also fmp track frigs well). If you really dont want to fly the harb though,, and got isk to burn buy a navy omen, fit a 1600 plate and a trimark or two and it's basically a faster, more flexible zealot/harb.
Antimony Noske	Posted - 2009.01.29 21:38:00 - [11] Originally by: Endless Subversion The CPU implant and the PG implant are both slot 6. Gun CPU implant is a different slot I believe. Are they really? Ha ha, so much for that.
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2009.01.29 21:42:00 - [12] Fly a Sac if you want to solo. After all, everyone needs some type of spacer in their sigs to show it's not part of the post.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.29 23:05:00 - [13] Edited by: Terianna Eri on 29/01/2009 23:17:11 Edited by: Terianna Eri on 29/01/2009 23:06:06 Originally by: Antimony Noske Originally by: Endless Subversion The CPU implant and the PG implant are both slot 6. Gun CPU implant is a different slot I believe. Are they really? Ha ha, so much for that. Turret CPU reduction implant is slot 10 though, so it'll work... though you will need to train Energy Weapon Rigging V >:( ... Okay, if I had the money, I'd fly this: Quote: [Zealot, Solo?] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Internal Force Field Array I Adaptive Nano Plating II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Domination Warp Disruptor Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Capacitor Control Circuit I Energy Burst Aerator I The Zealot does not like fitting that much CPU intensive stuff. upwards of 600 dps. Faction point is there because a: 36km warp disruptors are broken good on Zealots and it saves 26 CPU over a T2 point (!!!!)... and you still need to use an ANP and an IFFA DC.
Antimony Noske	Posted - 2009.01.30 00:58:00 - [14] Edited by: Antimony Noske on 30/01/2009 00:59:41 Originally by: Terianna Eri Domination Warp Disruptor 36km saves 26 CPU over a T2 point Hot damn. How much do these cost?
Skarned Diplomatic Disruption Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2009.01.30 02:10:00 - [15] [Zealot, Solo] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II 800mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Adaptive Nano Plating II Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Warp Disruptor II Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400 Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Energy Collision Accelerator I Energy Burst Aerator I I've been using this. It's a fun ship to fly, probably my favorite at the moment. The only thing it really has going for it over a 1600 plated version, or a Harb, is its speed. Like others have said here, the Harb is the better choice in most situations.
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.30 02:39:00 - [16] Originally by: Antimony Noske Edited by: Antimony Noske on 30/01/2009 00:59:41 Originally by: Terianna Eri Domination Warp Disruptor 36km saves 26 CPU over a T2 point Hot damn. How much do these cost? Well it's 36km with overload, 30km normally. My bad. They're about 100 mil I think :-/ but they're perfect for the zealot because of the range AND the fitting __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Cletus Graeme Caldari Duty.	Posted - 2009.01.30 03:15:00 - [17] Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 30/01/2009 03:19:09 Originally by: Terianna Eri Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier What's the (faction) web for if the idea is to stay at least 25km away? Tested this on Sissi and it's actually pretty good. Not a solo version tho - sorry! [Zealot, HP + PST + HSx3 + TEx3 + DC] Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Fourier Transform I Tracking Program Fourier Transform I Tracking Program Fourier Transform I Tracking Program Damage Control II 10MN MicroWarpdrive II Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Terianna Eri Amarr Scrutari	Posted - 2009.01.30 03:34:00 - [18] Originally by: Cletus Graeme Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 30/01/2009 03:19:09 Originally by: Terianna Eri Gallente Navy Stasis Webifier What's the (faction) web for if the idea is to stay at least 25km away? Counter-webbing, really. Webbing people before they get close to you, and then you can unload on them with close range ammo while they're stuck out of range. I didn't go for a cap booster because I didn't want to spare the PG for it and because 13km is outside the range of medium neuts anyway, and the cap is otherwise pretty good. Quote: Tested this on Sissi and it's actually pretty good. Not a solo version tho - sorry! [Zealot, HP + PST + HSx3 + TEx3 + DC] Fit There are any number of good gang fits for a zealot but i'd definitely rather have the fit that runs a sensor booster and range rigs over the shield buffer one. __________________________________ Originally by: Arthur Frayn How much to ruin all your holes, luv?
Artemis Rose Sileo In Pacis Mean Coalition	Posted - 2009.01.30 03:39:00 - [19] If you want to solo with a Zealot, stay the frick out of web range and have a cap injector incase you get neuted. Faction Multifreq is the LAST ammo you ever want to use. I'd use a sort of kiting fit, and keep people at 18-24km at all times. The Harbinger generally makes a better solo laser boat, due to the extra midslot, HP and drone bay. *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats
Motaka Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.30 03:49:00 - [20] My zealot setup. Dark Blood thermic hardener. Dark Blood energized adaptive nano membrane. DC II. HS II. HS II. Meditation medium armour rep. Medium armour rep II. 10mn microwarpdrive. Republic fleet warp disruptor. Medium cap injector II Medium focused pulse II.x5 auxillary nano pumps X2 It works great but im always looking for 800 charges as it only holds 6.
Shoen Seam Amarr Segunda Fundacion Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.01.30 11:06:00 - [21] What i think after reading all your sugestions it is that flying a Zealot SOLO it is a bad idea. I also fly a harby, but i like really very much the zealot. Perhaps i will use it for rating in 0.0 in friendly space(inside alliance space) and for more risky situations i will use the harby. Thanks for your replays. any more suggestions are welcome.
fivetide humidyear Gallente EXCESS10N	Posted - 2009.01.30 11:32:00 - [22] Edited by: fivetide humidyear on 30/01/2009 11:34:34 Harbinger for solo and zealot for gangs as stated above, if you have to solo one something like this for low sec work the beam and ranged pulse setups are very useful for gang work though, and that is what i would recommend 5x focussed medium pulse II (scorch) 10mn MWD II warp disruptor II medium electrochemical cap booster 2x MAR II 2x heat sink II 1x EANM II 1x ANP II 1x DCU II nanobot and aux nano pumps iirc cpu was tight hence the adaptive nano plate. it's a risky proposition solo.
Diomidis Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.31 07:17:00 - [23] Originally by: fivetide humidyear 2x MAR II ... ... nanobot and aux nano pumps I would prefer 2x Aux Nano Pumps...the Nanobot accel might look better in optimum-EFT conditions, but it lowers the cap efficiency of a ship that's heavily cap dependent... Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2009.01.31 07:47:00 - [24] This is the least **ty I could come up with, but it's still **ty. [Zealot, Solo] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Internal Force Field Array I Heat Sink II Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II Adaptive Nano Plating II Power Diagnostic System II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Faint Warp Disruptor I Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency M Anti-Thermic Pump I Ancillary Current Router I

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