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panterus29
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:32:00 -
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lkjfslkjeruwejr > <br> Come to www.eve-isk.com ,get 10% free ISK. 200M=7.99$,1000M=39.99$. No matter how much you order, you can get 10% more free ISK on www.eve-isk.com
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:32:00 -
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Yes?
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Khemul Zula
Amarr
Keisen Trade League
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:33:00 -
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No. Problem was fixed. Move along.
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Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.29 20:33:00 -
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Edited by: Qordel on 29/01/2009 20:34:16
Wow, good job spreading their spam into the forums. That was useful.
Also, CCP should send a cease and desist for flat out copying CCP's content for their site.
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panterus31
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:02:00 -
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Edited by: panterus31 on 29/01/2009 21:02:51
well, where else should you report this then its not like i'm advertising for them i hope they do get shut down and maybe sued by CCP if possible, more real isk for the developers, eh.
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Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:05:00 -
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 Originally by: panterus31
Edited by: panterus31 on 29/01/2009 21:02:51
well, where else should you report this then its not like i'm advertising for them i hope they do get shut down and maybe sued by CCP if possible, more real isk for the developers, eh.
Petition under the Isk Seller category and they'll be blocked from posting shortly after (sometimes minutes). I have no idea if they are banned, but at last the channel is freed from their spam for a few seconds.
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Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:06:00 -
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Sweet, they've got "Live chat" to help you out, they can't be all bad
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Dirk Magnum
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:07:00 -
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Originally by: panterus31
Edited by: panterus31 on 29/01/2009 21:02:51
well, where else should you report this then its not like i'm advertising for them i hope they do get shut down and maybe sued by CCP if possible, more real isk for the developers, eh.
Hit escape in-game to bring up the control menu. Select "your petitions". Select "rules and policies" group, and then select ISK spam or whatever in the menu below that. Fill in the name of the spammer and send to CCP.
It's a tedious system to use for this purpose but it's the only one that puts an ISK spam complaint into any sort of official queue. Way too many spammers to be starting threads about each one.
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panterus29
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: panterus29 on 29/01/2009 21:14:03
ahh, ok then, will do. they should be banned in my opinion. if they are breaking the rules, can em!
not that i'm a stickler for rules but in this case I think it goes without saying your pathetic if you need to buy isk. |
Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: panterus29
ahh, ok then, will do. they should be banned in my opinion. if they are breaking the rules, can em!
I'm not positive as to whether or not they'be banned. Presumably they are. They are at least kicked off of spamming in channels though, which is better than nothing, I guess. |
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panterus31
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:15:00 -
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yeah true at least its a step. |
Tzar'rim
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:18:00 -
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Earlier tonight I got one from someone in a corp... Petitioned it and within a minute i got a reply they'd look into it.
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente
The White Mantle
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: panterus29
lkjfslkjeruwejr > <br> Come to www.eve-isk.com ,get 10% free ISK. 200M=7.99$,1000M=39.99$. No matter how much you order, you can get 10% more free ISK on www.eve-isk.com
Proof that pertitions dont work... I petitioned him earlier today lol he changed account and got a new avatar....and back on the front line...
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panterus29
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: panterus29 on 29/01/2009 21:37:58
i can see that as a persistent problem for the petition executors, wonder what can be done to the website offering the isk, maybe someone from CCP could actually buy some isk and find out who is passing it out in game and remove the accounts comepletly, or isnt there potential for sueing the owners of these websites for exploitation?
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Qordel
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:41:00 -
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I've said it a million times, but the spamming aspect is simple to resolve. Filter it. Rather than ban 2,500 accounts that each spam for blahblaheveiskblah.com ONE AT A TIME, have a blacklist and just prevent any message being posted from anyone to any channel that contains that URL. You've just reduced the amount of work/spam involved by 2,500 times.
Then there's the whole simple flood-protection or eve Bayesian filtering, but you get the point.
Apparently CCP would rather approach it as if it's an IRC channel in 1994, instead. I can't wait for all those new players in March who log in and see what a piece of neglected **** it appears to be. After all, what community could possibly be vibrant and thriving and alive and valued with constant spam in channels, rendering them almost useless? Surely that only happens in a game where only a few stragglers remain playing the game and the company behind it has largely abandoned it, right?
At least, that's the impression it will give new people.
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panterus29
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 21:49:00 -
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good point. then the spammers would have nowhere to advertise and have to quit, ingenious!  |
Crackuji
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 22:29:00 -
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Edited by: Crackuji on 29/01/2009 22:29:58
Originally by: panterus29
get 10% free ISK
WHY are you advertising this company???
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panterus29
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 22:36:00 -
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i guess you didnt actually read the whole thread.
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Furb Killer
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 22:43:00 -
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I have OFTEN seen in help channel when i used to be there that the isk spam was like: buy from www * randomsite * com, and many variations on it, using the same methods people use to prevent spambots from finding their email address (cookie[at]chocolate[dot]com for example). It doesnt help anything if you just block everyone who mentions that site, since they will work arround it. |
Captain Pompous
Is Right Even When He's Wrong So Deal With It
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Posted - 2009.01.29 23:00:00 -
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Originally by: Crackuji
Edited by: Crackuji on 29/01/2009 22:29:58
Originally by: panterus29
get 10% free ISK
WHY are you advertising this company???
Because that's, like, an amazing offer...? 
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panterus29
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 23:03:00 -
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Edited by: panterus29 on 29/01/2009 23:04:53
"I have OFTEN seen in help channel when i used to be there that the isk spam was like: buy from www * randomsite * com, and many variations on it, using the same methods people use to prevent spambots from finding their email address (cookie[at]chocolate[dot]com for example). It doesnt help anything if you just block everyone who mentions that site, since they will work arround it."
yes another good point. i guess even blocking IP addresses wouldn't even work since those can be changed also, so isnt there still room for legal action or is it worth it?
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Heroldyn
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Posted - 2009.01.29 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: panterus29
yes another good point. i guess even blocking IP addresses wouldn't even work since those can be changed also, so isnt there still room for legal action or is it worth it?
suing someone over international/foreign law is a very complex and expensive process.
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Crackuji
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: panterus29
i guess you didnt actually read the whole thread.
I've read enough to notice that you refuse to edit out the company name
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panterus29
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Heroldyn
Originally by: panterus29
yes another good point. i guess even blocking IP addresses wouldn't even work since those can be changed also, so isnt there still room for legal action or is it worth it?
suing someone over international/foreign law is a very complex and expensive process.
yeah, that sounds like the the pontential case there, so is there no way to stop spam in local from these isk pirates. maybe buying the isk and cancelling the accounts that are passing it out is a viable option, although we as players may have to pay more for our accounts, is that worth it?
we could have a Vice-CCP squad going undercover and buying "illegal" isk, eh. if these accounts are there then when they are gone no isk to sell, so what do the isk pirates do then? they buy more accounts and make more isk the old fashoioned way right? seems like that would slow their sales down.
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panterus29
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.29 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Crackuji
Originally by: panterus29
i guess you didnt actually read the whole thread.
I've read enough to notice that you refuse to edit out the company name
refuse? noone even suggested i remove it yet sry im new to the forums here.
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panterus29
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.30 01:11:00 -
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seems to me from reading the other topic that there are money traders who get the isk from money holders who get the isk from macro miners and macro missioners and the like so it seems the CCP would have to actually access the traders accounts and find out who they get their isk from, and again access the holders accounts to find out who the holders get their isk from and cancel all those accounts to remove the problem, not to mention canceling the accounts of those found buying the isk. |
Abrazzar
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Posted - 2009.01.30 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: panterus29
seems to me from reading the other topic that there are money traders who get the isk from money holders who get the isk from macro miners and macro missioners and the like so it seems the CCP would have to actually access the traders accounts and find out who they get their isk from, and again access the holders accounts to find out who the holders get their isk from and cancel all those accounts to remove the problem, not to mention canceling the accounts of those found buying the isk.
Actually it is more effective to keep all those farming/selling accounts active once identified and just keep punishing/banning all those ISK buyers that are connected to the group. Simply because the structure will be rebuild once removed and CCP would have to do thw whole investigating again. With keeping them around, known and monitored, CCP can attack the cause of their existence: The ISK Buyer.
Of course the sellers realize that they got compromised and to maintain a trustworthy reputation(hah!) they need to abandon the structure and recreate a new one. That's when CCP is flushing them all to hinder the recreation by eliminating existing assets.
Granted, I am just guessing here as CCP never divulges their methods to the public, but behaving like this makes much more sense than outright banning identified ISK sellers immediately and it fits to the perceived inaction from the player's perspective.
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Corduroy Rab
Chaos Reborn
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Posted - 2009.01.30 01:26:00 -
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Isk sellers will always be a problem so long as there is a demand for their services. |
panterus29
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.01.30 01:32:00 -
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Edited by: panterus29 on 30/01/2009 01:33:43
Edited by: panterus29 on 30/01/2009 01:33:25
(responding to Abrazzar)
personally, that sounds like the most effective idea ive heard so far! but, they would have to be very active to accomplish it, a heavy squash or two on their major assets would likely put at least some isk sellers out of business or at least lose them some major cash. |
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CCP Mitnal
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CCP
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Posted - 2009.01.30 03:16:00 -
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Locked.
Thank you for editing out the website, please do not give them additional free publicity.
If you spot an isk spammer either via EVE Mail or in local, please file a new petition under the category Rules & Policies, Isk Spammers.
I assure you our Customer Support particularly looks forward to receiving those petitions.
Mitnal
Community Representative
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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