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Captain Sage
Certo Cita
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Posted - 2009.01.30 14:42:00 -
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When you target and fire your missles they are obviously going to be auto targeting you back - Hence use Damps or Passive targeting. My question is, can you cloak while you still have them targeted (and they are half way through targeting you) or do you have to click the un-target button before you can cloak again??
Thats it really, just a quick one :)
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Guerrica
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Posted - 2009.01.30 15:23:00 -
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You can cloak at any time so long as they have not completed a lock onto you. If you cloak before your missiles hit, they do 0 damage though.
Also, auto-lock back is baaaad. Its a great way to get yourself into trouble, most people turn it off. |
Biscuit0
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.01.30 15:36:00 -
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You have roughly 3 seconds after losing lock (cloaking, warping off) where your missiles can still hit. |
Ruban Boatbuyer
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Posted - 2009.02.03 15:12:00 -
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If their drones lock you can you cloak? |
Venduras
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Posted - 2009.02.03 16:05:00 -
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I've found that if you cloak when your missiles are roughly 40-50km short of your target, they will still hit.
Other than that, they'll just dissapear. I use a Passive Targetter myself as it isnt heavy on CPU, allowing me to use XT-9000s.
As it's not a solo boat, anything that locks you will still have to do it from 100km away.
Unless you are fighting long range weapons, you can still keep on firing.
If anything closes on you, just warp out, no real need for sensor damp I think.
Passive Targetter prevents the auto-lock back which is nicer than a sensor damp. |
Guer
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Posted - 2009.02.04 02:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Ruban Boatbuyer
If their drones lock you can you cloak?
i would like to know this as well. |
Morel Nova
z3r0 Gravity
Fluidic Anti-Gravity
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Posted - 2009.02.04 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Guer
Originally by: Ruban Boatbuyer
If their drones lock you can you cloak?
i would like to know this as well.
99.5% sure you cant cloak with drones locking you. |
BuckStrider
Fleem Co
SIRRIUS.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:51:00 -
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You cannot cloak if you are targeted...PERIOD!
This includes all ships,drones,towers and your best friend's mom looking for a booty call
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Biscuit0
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Venduras
I've found that if you cloak when your missiles are roughly 40-50km short of your target, they will still hit.
Other than that, they'll just dissapear. I use a Passive Targetter myself as it isnt heavy on CPU, allowing me to use XT-9000s.
As it's not a solo boat, anything that locks you will still have to do it from 100km away.
Unless you are fighting long range weapons, you can still keep on firing.
If anything closes on you, just warp out, no real need for sensor damp I think.
Passive Targetter prevents the auto-lock back which is nicer than a sensor damp.
Is this for station camping? I just use two unscripted named Sensor Boosters and two named Target Painters, good for catching haulers and whatnot. |
Glengrant
TOHA Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.04 14:58:00 -
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Most opponents (if they know what they're doing) will have auto-target off (as should you).
But I like using Passive Targeter anyway - not so they don't auto-target back, but because it might give you another second or 2 before your opponent is sure what's going on.
Small fast ships (AF, Interceptor, etc...) are your death - so are Drones if you let them come close.
Be far away (downside: gives target time to warp away from your missiles - that's why a bit extra time due to PT might be good) and keep moving. Big ships will hardly ever hit you as long as you keep semi-fast moving at long range.
If a small ship gets within 20km you're toast. If you stand still and opponent has long range weapons - you're toast.
Stealth Bombers are most effective when used in a small gang. Half a dozen can instapop many ships - or at least do decent damage. So you can do - unlcoak - 1 volley - cloak or warp. Rinse - repeat.
A major problem is the lack of covops cloack device. You cannot warp in cloaked. That means you either have to wait for your enemy - or need some fog of war (distracting battle or whatever) to warp in - cloak - move into position - bam - gone again.
In a solo role Stealth Bombers are not very effective unless your opponent flies a T1 frig or badly fitted cruiser. Everything else will survive your surprise attack and kill you before you can break their tank or they will just warp away - while most ships will destroy you quickly given half a chance.
Stealth bombers have a very good punch and are versatile in their targets thanks to sig resolition bonus.
But defense is made of paper and range, surprise, speed, cloak and/or instakill are your only survival options.
Because of all the above it's my favourite ship class. :-)
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Venduras
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Biscuit0
Originally by: Venduras
I've found that if you cloak when your missiles are roughly 40-50km short of your target, they will still hit.
Other than that, they'll just dissapear. I use a Passive Targetter myself as it isnt heavy on CPU, allowing me to use XT-9000s.
As it's not a solo boat, anything that locks you will still have to do it from 100km away.
Unless you are fighting long range weapons, you can still keep on firing.
If anything closes on you, just warp out, no real need for sensor damp I think.
Passive Targetter prevents the auto-lock back which is nicer than a sensor damp.
Is this for station camping? I just use two unscripted named Sensor Boosters and two named Target Painters, good for catching haulers and whatnot.
Works on anything really, just don't recloak before your missiles are close enough to their target (40-50km).
Ofcourse, for sustained DPS you shouldn't be cloaking at all  |
Guer
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Posted - 2009.02.04 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: BuckStrider
You cannot cloak if you are targeted...PERIOD!
This includes all ships,drones,towers and your best friend's mom looking for a booty call
So if a ship had its drones out but idle, and I uncloaked and damped him, the drones could auto aggro me (assuming i'm within drone control range) preventing me from recloaking, even if the target never had a chance to lock me?
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Venduras
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:49:00 -
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Can you cloak while BEING targetted? (before the actual lock is made) |
Dawts
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2009.02.05 14:55:00 -
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Originally by: Venduras
Can you cloak while BEING targetted? (before the actual lock is made)
Yes.
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Orecul
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Posted - 2009.02.05 15:47:00 -
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Edited by: Orecul on 05/02/2009 15:51:45
Edited by: Orecul on 05/02/2009 15:47:39
When using the SB solo, you want to be able to lock and pop your target before he has a chance to react. The smaller the target, the closer you need to get to your target for this to happen. This means for inties, you want to be almost on top of them (~5km or less).
The best solo usage of mid slots is either all sensor booster II w/ scan scripts or sensor boosters w/ scan scripts and a passive targeter. If close, the time from uncloaking, locking and popping inty will occur in under 3s.
Damps, while they may have worked in the past, are deprecated modules for the SB. You want to lock the wt as fast as possible before they can warp off or (if they are in a fleet) they're buddies can lock.
The time from my testing is that your missiles will be active for just under 8s if you cloak up again. After this time they disappear.
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