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xxxak	Posted - 2009.02.03 07:51:00 - [1] Just Post your Vote. Don't whine or freak out. WMD or AB. For 0.0 small-mid gang.
Major Celine	Posted - 2009.02.03 08:08:00 - [2] MWD for sure. You don't want to get into scrambler range...
Spaztick Canadian Imperial Armaments Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2009.02.03 08:10:00 - [3] Always a MWD for general purpose use if your goal is to dictate range.
Burn Mac Minmatar The Tuskers	Posted - 2009.02.03 09:31:00 - [4] I whould fit MWD if i could fly one.
arbalesttom Advocates of Sin Retribution.	Posted - 2009.02.03 11:10:00 - [5] Definately mwd.
Diomidis Amarr Mythos Corp RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.03 11:33:00 - [6] General PvP = MWD for sure... AB is reported to be good enough for speed-tanking cruiser missiles etc for soloing ratters but I've head no experience myself...also ppl say that AB speed is more than enough for reproaching against Bubbling camps etc... Join the Biggest Greek Corp! www.Mythos-eve.com - Join Mythos Channel in game!
Morel Nova z3r0 Gravity Fluidic Anti-Gravity	Posted - 2009.02.03 13:34:00 - [7] I dont fly vagabonds (yet), but have you tried both? drop a LSE for an AB. maybe switch time is too long. Put in space whales!
fac3hunter	Posted - 2009.02.03 13:46:00 - [8] whats fitted in rest of your slots ? what role you wanna play in the gang ?
Dasalt Istgut	Posted - 2009.02.03 13:48:00 - [9] MWD.
P'uck	Posted - 2009.02.03 13:53:00 - [10] Originally by: Morel Nova I dont fly vagabonds (yet), but have you tried both? drop a LSE for an AB. maybe switch time is too long. That is something I've been wondering. At first it seems you lose reaction/ganktime because of the lost buffer... but but but.... on the other hand you MIGHT be gaining time on a lot of other targets, you can effectively "speed"tank, while on the other hand still hit them yourself. It's a bit costly to try and the stabber is a bit too fragile to simulate it with. Also, if you didnt pay attention and you get scrammed you're still pretty fast with overload... But I'd never ever take it over the MWD.
Wannabehero Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2009.02.03 21:20:00 - [11] 100 mN MWD 2x Reactor Controls 3x Nanofibers Cap injector to feed the beast 2x Dynamic Fuel Valves to reduce cap consumption low grade 'Nomad' set overheat the MWD and clock in at over 11,000 m/s with similar agility to a Battlecruiser. Get a claymore in your gang for even more fun
Gneeznow Minmatar Goo Spew	Posted - 2009.02.03 22:28:00 - [12] I was using an afterburner + probe launcher fit for a while, it seemed pretty good tbh, like 1.5 k with overloaded AB, but tbh for general use mwd is better.
Karrade Krise Galatic P0RN Starz	Posted - 2009.02.03 22:29:00 - [13] 100MN MWD II!!!
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2009.02.03 22:38:00 - [14] AB for 0.0 so work. Gets you back to gates fine and you can speedtank almost anything, even multiple targets. With a MWD, a good AF pilot with a scram could kill you. Your cap ship deserves CPR's!
Wannabehero Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2009.02.03 22:40:00 - [15] Edited by: Wannabehero on 03/02/2009 22:42:32 Originally by: Sokratesz AB for 0.0 so work. Gets you back to gates fine and you can speedtank almost anything, even multiple targets. With a MWD, a good AF pilot with a scram could kill you. I want to see the AF pilot that can match 11km/s Mwuhahaha P.S. I love the link in your sig -- Don't harsh my mellow
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2009.02.04 07:10:00 - [16] advicedog is always right
techzer0 IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2009.02.04 07:11:00 - [17] The idea has always been to stay outta web range on a vaga... so as long as you're not up against a Gallente recon... Go with the MWD
Kagura Nikon Minmatar The Black Dawn Gang	Posted - 2009.02.04 09:13:00 - [18] Originally by: Wannabehero Edited by: Wannabehero on 03/02/2009 22:42:32 Originally by: Sokratesz AB for 0.0 so work. Gets you back to gates fine and you can speedtank almost anything, even multiple targets. With a MWD, a good AF pilot with a scram could kill you. I want to see the AF pilot that can match 11km/s Mwuhahaha P.S. I love the link in your sig and i want to see the situation where the slugnishes of a 100MWD vaga doe snto make it useless. The agility is not of a BC. The agility drops to near battleship level and you barely have cap to reach your maximum speed. That is one of those PURELY eft minded setups. ITs basically worthless except for bumping large ships outside of docking range (and for that its pretty good) On general 10MWD is the best choice.. but if you KNOW what you wil fight against (more likely in empire wars and low sec) the AB can work really great. Specially if you are operatign in pair qith a rapier (so yu still have the mobility advantage over your target. ------------------------------------------------- If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2009.02.04 10:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Kagura Nikon On general 10MWD is the best choice.. but if you KNOW what you wil fight against (more likely in empire wars and low sec) the AB can work really great. Specially if you are operatign in pair qith a rapier (so yu still have the mobility advantage over your target. It works in 0.0, too, cause you can run back to the gate just fine with an AB. Vaga is one of the few ships who can do that. Your cap ship deserves CPR's!
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE Black Legion.	Posted - 2009.02.04 11:09:00 - [20] Originally by: Sokratesz It works in 0.0, too, cause you can run back to the gate just fine with an AB. Vaga is one of the few ships who can do that. Funnily enough, alot of people are really crap at running back to gates. No smack intended, just stating the obvious. I guess some of them don't have Thermodynamics trained either. I'd consider both AB and MWD, depending on what situation, but definately for an allround fit I'd go AB.
Rennion	Posted - 2009.02.04 11:14:00 - [21] I dont really buy the whole if you fit a mwd then assault frigates can kill you thing. Ecm drones, neut, wrecking shots, not letting a slower ship into scram range in the first place etc... My vote = MWD
Ecky X SniggWaffe	Posted - 2009.02.04 11:17:00 - [22] Edited by: Ecky X on 04/02/2009 11:17:49 This fit: http://163.118.155.188/lolstabber.jpg
Tzar'rim	Posted - 2009.02.04 11:37:00 - [23] Forgetting the MWD<>AB debate and have never flown a Vaga (yet), but would your tracking be good enough to keep the AB running while firing? Combining the AB speed, a certain orbit range and the sig radius, how would that stand against a cruiser pulseboat cause that's the only thing I can think off that would still hurt it.
Sokratesz Rionnag Alba	Posted - 2009.02.04 11:44:00 - [24] Originally by: Tzar'rim Forgetting the MWD<>AB debate and have never flown a Vaga (yet), but would your tracking be good enough to keep the AB running while firing? Combining the AB speed, a certain orbit range and the sig radius, how would that stand against a cruiser pulseboat cause that's the only thing I can think off that would still hurt it. Yes with 180ies you can hit a BS fine when orbiting at 10km at 1km/s
Random Womble Minmatar Master Miners	Posted - 2009.02.04 12:25:00 - [25] Originally by: Wannabehero 100 mN MWD 2x Reactor Controls 3x Nanofibers Cap injector to feed the beast 2x Dynamic Fuel Valves to reduce cap consumption low grade 'Nomad' set overheat the MWD and clock in at over 11,000 m/s with similar agility to a Battlecruiser. Get a claymore in your gang for even more fun 100MN MWD = no having said that a corp mate of mine before QR did have an officer AB fitted vaga (he lost it due to wireless mouse running out of power) which post QR could be tasty
Wannabehero Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:36:00 - [26] Originally by: Kagura Nikon and i want to see the situation where the slugnishes of a 100MWD vaga doe snto make it useless. The agility is not of a BC. The agility drops to near battleship level and you barely have cap to reach your maximum speed. I think you missed the part higher up where these 3 points came in Cap injector Dynamic Fuel Valves 'Nomad' Set Though it is in no way a 'serious' setup, don't discount it for the hilarity on the field factor. The setup can keep running as long as you have injector charges (granted, not very long) and with the implants your agility is comparable to a Battlecruiser using a MWD. Still, it's funny that there is a ship (two actually, see Ecky X's link above) that can still reach the ludicrous speeds of yesteryear, and do so in a relatively reasonable way. Having a nomad set actually makes many Heavy Assault Ship setups sporting a 100MN MWD almost viable. Still haven't found a way to do it to the ishtar yet that makes me happy
THEDON1 Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.02.04 16:44:00 - [27] Originally by: Sokratesz AB for 0.0 so work. Gets you back to gates fine and you can speedtank almost anything, even multiple targets. With a MWD, a good AF pilot with a scram could kill you. id like to see any asf attack my vaga and live .....
Raging Knight Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.04 17:04:00 - [28] Originally by: Wannabehero Edited by: Wannabehero on 03/02/2009 22:42:32 I want to see the AF pilot that can match 11km/s Mwuhahaha P.S. I love the link in your sig Note the scram, your not going to be doing 11k/m with a scram on you. But of course, he would have to get the scram on pretty damn quick. Originally by: THEDON1 id like to see any asf attack my vaga and live ..... An assualt frig will orbit you at about 1000m/s with a small sig radious, with a scram and web the vaga isnt going anywhere, depends how quickly the assualt frig can dispose of any light drones. However saying that, most of the time the vaga is going to win, as not many vaga pilots are going to be stupid enough to get themseleves in that situation.

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