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Sweets Innocense
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:05:00 -
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I am so angry! I just got scammed! I accepted a courier mission into low security. I dropped my cargo off at the station next out and went to check it out. Sure enough, there was a bubble at the gate. Well, I got by the bubble but when I tried to dock at the station - they denied me access!!!!
Now, I would not have cried if they shot me down fair and square - but I got BY THE #%!# and then they deny me access to the station?
Any way around this so I can deliver my cargo or is this the worst scam ever?
Can I get an alt to deliver it and then close it?
Thanks - I really don't want to loose this collateral like this because it is totally a cheat as far as I am concerned. Sounds like these guys have no confidence in their skills and so they deny access to make sure nobody can complete the contract!!!!
THanks for the help. I just hate to go down like this - it ain't sporting one bit as far as I am concerned! Wow, am I angry. Like I said, have skills - shoot me down will ya. I won't cry. But to do a cowardly thing like this bites.
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Ki Tarra
Caldari Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/02/2009 17:08:37
The simple way to avoid this is never accept courier contracts that begin or end in player owned stations.
Only accept contracts that you know you can complete: ie to and from NPC stations in locations where you are reasonably sure that you won't die and have cargo capacities that you can handle.
It is your responsiblity to assess your ablity to complete the contract before you accept it.
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Sweets Innocense
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:10:00 -
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Here is the deal... I could complete it. I would have. But I had never heard of this cowardly scam before.
How can you tell if it is a player owned station?
Edumicate me. And thanks.
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Ki Tarra
Caldari Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Sweets Innocense How can you tell if it is a player owned station?
Edumicate me. And thanks.
Pull up the show info window for the station, click on the owner's logo. If it is an NPC corp, then it is not player owned. If it is a player corp, then assume you can't dock there.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:12:00 -
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You go "Show Info"
Low sec is not 0.0
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Divinity's Edge
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Sweets Innocense Here is the deal... I could complete it. I would have. But I had never heard of this cowardly scam before.
How can you tell if it is a player owned station?
Edumicate me. And thanks.
The name and location tend to be pretty good indicators.
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Cat o'Ninetails
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:13:00 -
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You need the special passwrds to gain acces to the stations and i have a list of them. you just need to enter it in your ship by pressing right click.
sent me some isk i think 10 million is fair and i will send you the password of your choice or for bonus prices the region too
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Sweets Innocense
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:14:00 -
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Okay. I see.
Would you think they deny access to everyone?
Another thing I noticed. I am learning a lot today! LOL Well, that is what this game is - hard lunks and learning.
Many others failed but a few succeeded. I am wondering how they got into station and if they just deny those that come in when they are doing their bubbles?
I accept my defeat and don't cry, but I think this is a cowardly way to go about it. Just my opinion. I now know to look more carefully.
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Sweets Innocense
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:17:00 -
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I just have to accept the fact that I was scammed and have done with it. Maybe hang around and haunt their system warning everyone that comes in for a month LOL.
Cowards.
Thanks for the help all. I was SO hoping to be able to finish this and not loose. I see now that I can't. Am out of luck.
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Grarr Dexx
Amarr Divinity's Edge
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: Sweets Innocense Okay. I see.
Would you think they deny access to everyone?
Another thing I noticed. I am learning a lot today! LOL Well, that is what this game is - hard lunks and learning.
Many others failed but a few succeeded. I am wondering how they got into station and if they just deny those that come in when they are doing their bubbles?
I accept my defeat and don't cry, but I think this is a cowardly way to go about it. Just my opinion. I now know to look more carefully.
It's an intended way. 0.0 inhabitants don't want their enemies to gain access, also not their neutral alts, which is why they deny access only to those who gain their trust. Whoever wanted you to do the courier intended for you to be unable to complete it. The bubble was the first indicator, the second one was the fact that generally, stations in 0.0 with an unusual name will not let you in unless you are in the holders' alliance or blue to them.
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Ki Tarra
Caldari Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:20:00 -
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Edited by: Ki Tarra on 03/02/2009 17:24:56
Originally by: Sweets Innocense Would you think they deny access to everyone?
Everyone who is not on their "good" list. Originally by: Sweets Innocense I accept my defeat and don't cry, but I think this is a cowardly way to go about it. Just my opinion. I now know to look more carefully.
This attitude is a requirement for playing Eve. All of us who have been playing for a while have had to learn somethings the "hard" way.
I also think that it is a cowardly way to go about making a buck.
But if for those who think otherwise, there is nothing stopping you from creating courier missions with a destination that you don't have access to. So anyone can set up this sort of scam, it is not limited to those controlling the station.
Heck it doesn't even need to be a "scam". Create a legitmate courier contract to deliver some items you want to sell in their station. Set the collateral high enough to make it worth your while. If the contract is accepted and failed, you get the collateral. If the contract is completed, then you can use the Marketing skill to put those items up for sale in that station from anywhere in that region.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:24:00 -
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Old scam but I guess at some point it is new to everyone.
In general consider ALL courier contracts as scams. The vast majority are. You can spot the real one usually because they pay so terribly. On the whole give it a pass and do courier missions for NPC agents. Far more lucrative if that is your thing.
If you just really dig doing courier for players then follow the advice above. *Always* check the route before accepting and avoid low sec/0.0 like the plague. If it is in hi sec guaranteed you can access the station.
-------------------------------------------------- "Of course," said my grandfather, pulling a gun from his belt as he stepped from the Time Machine, "there's no paradox if I shoot you!"
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Captain Politics
JotunHeim Hird X13 Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:31:00 -
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The good old EC- scam still going strong. Maybe they should make a warning when making courier contracts going to player owned stations... |
Silent Ceremony
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Posted - 2009.02.03 17:35:00 -
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It is not necessarily a scam but lack of understanding of game mechanics on your part. You didn't know that stations in 0.0 can be player owned. You didn't know that at these stations you can be denied docking. So you got burned through it.
Also in future inspect contract history of whoever made the contract. If they are scamming they will have a lot of failed contracts listed there. Then simply don't accept contracts from issuers with a lot of failed courier contracts.
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Sweets Innocense
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Posted - 2009.02.03 18:02:00 -
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Yes, you all are right and I thank you!
I still think they are cowards of the worst degree, but I have to move on!
I far more respect someone who will fight me head-to-head and take their lunks as I will take mine, with grace and honor.
But then again, I guess I am an odd nut because I really really think being brave is a INCREDIBLE, whether you win or loose! At least you come to the fight and give it your all! These people... ehhh, they are just cowards.
Okay, I am officially over it! Thanks! And lesson learned! Now back at it to make up my losses! LOL |
Gunnanmon
Gallente UNITED STAR SYNDICATE
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Posted - 2009.02.03 18:05:00 -
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lol, knob |
Cyprus Black
Caldari School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.03 18:09:00 -
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/facepalm
Never never never never never accept courier contracts. 95% of all courier contracts are scams. The other 5% don't pay worth ****.
Again, it's worth repeating:
95% of all courier contracts are scams. Do not accept courier contracts. ______________ Some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn. |
YunFu Yan
Yan Enterprises
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Posted - 2009.02.03 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: YunFu Yan on 03/02/2009 19:20:31
Originally by: Cyprus Black /facepalm
Never never never never never accept courier contracts. 95% of all courier contracts are scams. The other 5% don't pay worth ****.
Again, it's worth repeating:
95% of all courier contracts are scams. Do not accept courier contracts.
417% of this post is nonsense. (Look, how I can pull silly figures out of my ass too!)
I repeat: 419% of the above stated is nonsensical! (Notice how using underlined bold text makes the figures look more authentic.
Edit: Damn, forgot to underline the repetition!
------------------------------------------------- Yan Enterprises - We mean business. |
Grek Forto
THE IRIS United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2009.02.03 19:42:00 -
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Originally by: Sweets Innocense I am so angry!
TLDR |
kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.03 19:46:00 -
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Check OP's name, possible troll guise |
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Ki Tarra
Caldari Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.03 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: kor anon Check OP's name, possible troll guise
If he was supposed to be a troll, he didn't do a very good job.
Trolls are supposed to whine, complain and blame everyone else for their misfortune.
The OP jumped strait to accepting and learning from his mistake.
1/10 for trolling. |
kor anon
Amarr The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.03 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ki Tarra
Originally by: kor anon Check OP's name, possible troll guise
If he was supposed to be a troll, he didn't do a very good job.
Trolls are supposed to whine, complain and blame everyone else for their misfortune.
The OP jumped strait to accepting and learning from his mistake.
1/10 for trolling.
Meh all i caught from the opening post was cowardly, pathetic, and other stuff. Good thing i covered my arse by saying 'possible' eh? |
Grarr Dexx
Amarr Divinity's Edge
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Posted - 2009.02.03 21:34:00 -
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You're a bad troll-detector, kor anon, maybe you need to lose one more zealot |
Armoured Gamer
Gallente Globaltech Industries The ENTITY.
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Posted - 2009.02.03 21:43:00 -
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unlucky, eve is hard but once you learn you can kick ass and then beatg up on the new learners, it good that you firgure this out now as when the box comes out this forum is going to be delicious .... for a troll hunter like me
smarties check, jelly beans check
My main has the flu but i am still here
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Scarlet Pimpdaddy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.03 21:48:00 -
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Stuff. Now. |
destinationunreachable
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Posted - 2009.02.03 22:09:00 -
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regarding the OP problem: not all courier contracts to player owned outposts are scam, very often it is a way to get stuff from Jita/Rens/Empire to "home". Usually these contracts are meant for fellow alliance haulers etc, which have some spare sqm. free on their way. What you can do is (while logged off at a safespot with the hauler main ) contact the owner of this contract and explain him the situation, if it is a legitimate contract he would be interested in finding a solution...
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Hegbard
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Posted - 2009.02.03 22:11:00 -
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It doesn't necessarily have to be a scam. There's most likely a lot of people who can dock at that station who could have completed that contract and that's probably what the contract issuer wanted. I made piles of money a few months ago on one of those very popular courier destinations that people scream "scam" about.
And bubble on entrance to 0.0 is nothing very unusual (although slightly stupid after the last patch). I'm surprised that you managed to survive.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2009.02.03 22:14:00 -
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Its a scam and bad game mechanics - anyone pretending it isnt is just trolling.
That said the game is full of design flaws and avoiding them is part of succeeding at EVE.
If you think corp is different than a guild or clan you have some insecurity issues.
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Agrigan
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Posted - 2009.02.03 22:15:00 -
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I've used quite a few courier contracts to move my massive pile of junk around. I pay a million ISK a load, which seems totally reasonable to me. I'm just saying that courier missions aren't bad as a rule, just have to be careful.
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Eaton d'Sorder
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Posted - 2009.02.04 01:38:00 -
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Of course there is nothing stopping you from conquering that station, fulfilling the contract and stopping them from docking and getting their stuff :-)
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