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Repdo
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Posted - 2009.02.04 15:38:00 -
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Hello,
As far as I know formula for refining of ore looks like this: [Station Equipment] + 0.375 x (1 + [Refining Skill] x 0.02) x (1 + [Refinery Efficiency Skill] x 0.04) x (1 + [Ore Processing Skill] x 0.05)
Also Hardwiring ū Zainou ęBeancounterĘ H60 gives -4% for refine wastage
Does anybody know for sure in which place of formula, and in what way, this percentage should be added?
Regards, Repdo
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.04 15:44:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 04/02/2009 15:44:34
*1.04 at the end besides the 0.375x part (alongside all other reprocessing skill multipliers) would be the only logical place.
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Repdo
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Posted - 2009.02.04 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 04/02/2009 15:44:34
*1.04 at the end besides the 0.375x part (alongside all other reprocessing skill multipliers) would be the only logical place.
Probably you right, but do you know it for sure? The point is that in sticky in Science and Industry topic recomended by CCP Halada's Mining Guide mentioned that with that hardwiring is possible to do no wastage refine in 35% station equipment. However if calculate in way you are call "only logical" resulting refine percantage will be 99.35. Not 100.
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.04 16:25:00 -
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The question should be easy to answer practically. Go to a low-base station on SiSi and plug in the implant, see the actual refine quote... and we calculate from there.
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Repdo
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Posted - 2009.02.04 16:31:00 -
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I have no enough skills. So probably somebody who can do it will share the knowledge. |

Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.04 16:39:00 -
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Name a station with less than 50% base refine near Orvolle or FD-MLJ and I'll go test.
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Velicitia
N.A.S.A. Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2009.02.04 16:45:00 -
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I have said implant and I was getting 99.5 or 99.9 before the outpost I was refining in got upgraded (40% base \o/). good enough that on most things the wastage was rather low, and in small enough batches, I actually *saved* mins... |

Repdo
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Posted - 2009.02.04 16:47:00 -
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Try: Osmeden VII - Moon 2 - X-Sense Chemical Refinery Osmeden IX - Moon 8 - X-Sense Chemical Refinery
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2009.02.04 17:32:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 04/02/2009 17:33:52
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RAW DATA
Osmeden IX - Moon 8 - X-Sense Chemical Refinery 35% base yield ; "standings 1.6, we take 3.8%" Ref&RefEff L5, Veldspar Processing 3, H60 plugged in
999 Veldspar (3 batches) perfect refine is 3000 get 2719 + 107 take + 174 unrecoverable
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PROCESSING DATA
174/3000 = 0.058 ; 5.8% waste max error 0.5/3000 = 0.016% waste Actual yield is 94.20% (or between 94.184% and 94.216% at most)
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Repdo
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Posted - 2009.02.04 18:04:00 -
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Akita thanks for the data!
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Halada
Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.02.04 21:55:00 -
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You're correct that 99.35% is the best you can achieve in a non-upgraded Minmatar Outpost.
At the time of the release I had gotten 100%, either was a bug which got corrected (at this time there were problems with some refineries) and might have been changed.
0.65% in loss however is almost perfect 
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Repdo
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Posted - 2009.02.04 22:19:00 -
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Thanks for response anyway. "Trust but check" rule still working. :-)
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