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Harkey
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Posted - 2009.02.04 18:14:00 -
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As the 'official' (?) Exploration channel is so awful, I'd like to encourage people to join Eploration Help instead.
Hopefully we can exchange advice which runs to more than 'read the guide'.
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Win ISK
Hedion University
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Posted - 2009.02.04 19:25:00 -
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hahaha |
Strom Nekth
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Posted - 2009.02.04 19:58:00 -
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There's already an alternative exploration channel called Discovery (iirc) but it oesn't get much traffic. |
Harkey
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Posted - 2009.02.04 20:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Strom Nekth
There's already an alternative exploration channel called Discovery (iirc) but it oesn't get much traffic.
Nice one - original message updated. |
Cade Morrigan
Caldari
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Posted - 2009.02.04 20:45:00 -
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Yeah but people should really read the guide... really. |
Harkey
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Posted - 2009.02.04 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Cade Morrigan
Yeah but people should really read the guide... really.
I'm not that fussed people being asked to read the guide if their questions are basic, but the attitude of the moderator and his sidekicks suck :
- Being told 'read the guide when the answer isn't in the guide.
- People getting flamed for not reading the guide when they weren't even asking a question but trying to help someone else.
- The moderator and his sidekick are free to discuss any subject but no one else is allowed to.
- Getting banned for diasgreeing with anything the moderator says.
- MOTD links leading to goonswarm killboards instead of the fabled guide.
I've no idea how people get moderator rights for a channel, but if ccp are involved they really should revisit this channel.
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Tachoh
Doom House
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Posted - 2009.02.05 01:31:00 -
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Edited by: Tachoh on 05/02/2009 01:31:28
Just read the forking guide.
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tarin adur
Gallente
Corp 1 Allstars
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Posted - 2009.02.05 01:34:00 -
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What's a waypost?
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Khwalik
Ghetto Kings
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Posted - 2009.02.05 11:40:00 -
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Read the guide, mmmmkay?  |
Benji Kamara
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2009.02.05 13:11:00 -
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Agree 100% with Harkey's summary.
It's not just about reading the guide. Even seasoned explorers who know a lot about the subject get treated like **** regularly by power tripping guys like AA and a few others. It's a superiority complex combined with a high horse mentality that goes on there. Having to "mind your words" or get banned is just stupid. Sad really, that a few mess it up for the majority.
I welcome the Discovery channel and will be part of it. I encourage people to visit it for exploration related discussion and questions, especially with the upcoming new space.
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Jr Grae
The Bones Brigade
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Posted - 2009.02.05 13:13:00 -
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Ya the Discovery channel is way better. People are actually friendly and helpful.
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Fiben Bolger
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Posted - 2009.02.06 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: tarin adur
What's a waypost?
Waypost questions are the reason I track the Exploration channel. There should be a trap door sound effect when people get booted from the channel. Maybe piranha sounds, too.
When you join Exploration channel there is a warning how it gives away your ship location, you agree to sell your soul, etc. Is this for all player-run channels or are we being used in some nefarious manner?
In defense of the Exploration moderator, he does keep the channel free of spam. I'm sure he has done a good thing there. However, this Discovery channel is a great idea. There is probably a niche for both channels.
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Pwett
Minmatar
QUANT Corp.
QUANT Hegemony
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Posted - 2009.02.06 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Fiben Bolger
When you join Exploration channel there is a warning how it gives away your ship location, you agree to sell your soul, etc. Is this for all player-run channels or are we being used in some nefarious manner?
Simply put, this is the pitfall of certain trade related channels - mining channels are notorious for this.
People chat about (insert mostly defenseless profession) in a public channel, some guy is just sitting there with his locator agent, looking for easy pickings nearby.
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<Q> QUANT Hegemony
Item Database
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Zlurch
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Posted - 2009.02.08 19:13:00 -
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Yeah, "Discovery" is a good channel where you can actually get some answers by a friendly people. |
Dreamwalker
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Posted - 2009.02.08 19:55:00 -
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Don't like it join a 0.0 alliance?
I have used exploration channel and it worked fine, I didn't ask stupid questions. I would first think about my question, then check the web sites then ask nicely in channel and I would get help.
I have used the Discovery channel but no one answered so I can't tell you how helpful it is.
And in the end you should try joining an alliance and run them with other people.
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Lady Aja
Caldari
Hannibals Pirates
Damnation of Souls
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Posted - 2009.02.08 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Benji Kamara
Agree 100% with Harkey's summary.
It's not just about reading the guide. Even seasoned explorers who know a lot about the subject get treated like **** regularly by power tripping guys like AA and a few others. It's a superiority complex combined with a high horse mentality that goes on there. Having to "mind your words" or get banned is just stupid. Sad really, that a few mess it up for the majority.
I welcome the Discovery channel and will be part of it. I encourage people to visit it for exploration related discussion and questions, especially with the upcoming new space.
what do you expect from a goon ran channel?
say anything remotly bad about goons or support bob/ in anyway get banned.
yeah.. I have tried to seek help in there. but I think i would rather learn from fellow pvpers and dedicated explorers who seem not have have a chip on thier shoulder.
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Lady Aja
Caldari
Hannibals Pirates
Damnation of Souls
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Posted - 2009.02.08 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Fiben Bolger
Originally by: tarin adur
What's a waypost?
In defense of the Exploration moderator, he does keep the channel free of spam. I'm sure he has done a good thing there. However, this Discovery channel is a great idea. There is probably a niche for both channels.
its only spam free till the moderator is spammign crap... or his lackies.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.02.09 01:07:00 -
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it is exploration, figure it out yourself!
if you want stuff with guides go run missions 
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Gwendion
Gallente
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.02.09 10:01:00 -
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Sigh, responding to a troll post...
You can get help in the exploration channel. You just have to be intelligent about how you ask your question. We get between 20-30 "Whatz a waypost?!?" questions a day. Its extremely irritating. Genuine questions do generally get answered. Questions such as "Whats the best ship" "Whats the best probe" etc generally tend to get flamed for good reason. Its called Exploration, not "Tell me what happens before I get there." We have all written many guides explaining in good detail how the system works, and what to expect. There are even resources out there with exact details on the specifics of each site.
If you cannot help yourself, we cannot help you.
The information exists out there, learn how to find it before annoying those who can help you further. |
Stu Pendisdick
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2009.02.09 13:22:00 -
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I can find Villard Wheel at Waypost?
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Jonathan Calvert
Minmatar
Empire Mining and Trade
eXponential maXimum
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Posted - 2009.02.09 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Harkey
Edited by: Harkey on 04/02/2009 20:05:43
Edited by: Harkey on 04/02/2009 18:21:38
As the 'official' (?) Exploration channel is so awful, I'd like to encourage people to join Discovery instead.
Hopefully we can exchange advice which runs to more than 'read the guide'.
I concur. Please join Discovery. Exploration is not a help channel, and it will save us a lot of stress. |
Jo'An
The Arrow Project
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Posted - 2009.02.09 13:42:00 -
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I tried asking questions in Exploration after being gone from game for a year.
Was quite humorus how everytime someone answered a question it was followed by a warning from random person not to help people cause that was against the rules.
So I would agree, exploration is not the channel to use if you wanna learn more about exploration. Will try Discovery I guess |
Syriana Luna
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2009.02.10 01:30:00 -
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+1 for Discovery channel. Excellent folks who aren't burnt out yet. |
Wreck X
Junkurs
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Posted - 2009.02.10 04:55:00 -
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Edited by: Wreck X on 10/02/2009 04:56:34
I have felt the cold heel of the "ban boot" there before. I told a moderator he needs to learn some manners or something along those lines since he was being disrespectful. My time in channel that day was very short.
Here's my point though, WHY have an exploration channel for help in exploration if questions aren't answered? I rarely see questions in there that can't be answered by the guide. It's usually just the mods discussing and trying to account for the time lapses in the Star Wars series or some dribble like that.
So... just.... why have it? Oh, and I haven't been to Discovery yet but I hear it is much more effective. |
Joe
Umbra Legion
Shadow Empire.
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Posted - 2009.02.10 05:58:00 -
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I haven't found the Exploration Channel helpfull in a long time, and no longer recommend it like i used to.
The 'read the guide' cut/paste answer is as annoying as the gm's 'Our log's show nothing'.
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Jill Bovine
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Posted - 2009.02.10 12:14:00 -
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Truthfully, i have gotten some info from the channel, even help at times. And as the moderator so fondly says "its not a help channel. its a private channel" so they have the right to be jerks to people needing help i guess.
The problem i see with that channel is that apart from not beeing that helpful or nice in general, they seem to spend their time in the channel telling everyone else how good they are, in short its a epeen enchaning channel for those in it.
When ever i happen to look at the channel and the moderator decides to make an appearance its either to threaten someone with a ban or to brag over himself.
Thats kinda why i never look anymore.
Discovery here i come.
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Archaeon Binary
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Posted - 2009.02.10 14:17:00 -
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Awesome idea, imagine how the circlejerk crowd at exploration would feel if everyone moved over to discovery 
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2009.02.10 14:23:00 -
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Originally by: Archaeon Binary
Awesome idea, imagine how the circlejerk crowd at exploration would feel if everyone moved over to discovery
Wanna bet there will be..
a) those who don't care
b) those who are happy they get to circlejerk without the annoying people that ask questions
c) those who miss the people they mock and move to the discovery channel
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Archaeon Binary
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Posted - 2009.02.10 16:29:00 -
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Originally by: Misanth
b) those who are happy they get to circlejerk without the annoying people that ask questions
Clubs are only fun if there's people that aren't in the club
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Don Genaro
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Posted - 2009.02.12 02:53:00 -
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Just be glad that Bozos like the people running the exploration channel sequester themselves like they do. Getting booted from that channel is a good thing.. sort of like having a Jita scammer block himself for you. They are good for humor value though.. fun to take an alt in every so often and see how quick you can get the kid with the napoleon complex to lose his cool.
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