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Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.04.23 00:26:00 -
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We're pretty close to where mineral values will be come July/August/September - if you look at things from supply side.
Veld 178 Scor 157 Pyro 229 Plag 156 Omb 109 Kern 166 Jasp 297 Hemo 344 Hedb 329
Gneiss 178 DarkO 304 Spod 127 Croc 389 Bist 381 Ark 458
Trit 5.91 Pye 7.02 Mex 51.21 Iso 98.16 Nocx 1026 Zyd 1832 Mega 3486 Morph 16055
Omb-Pyro ratio is 2.10. That ratio will tighten up over the next few months once HAG5 is over. The 2nd best to best ratio is 229/156 or 1.47, which is slightly above historical averages. That ratio will also narrow in Aug-Sep. Either Pyrox prices will fall slightly or the price of Scor/Plag have to rise a bit.
Zydrine is probably the under-priced mineral at only 1832.
Mineral price graphs are also pretty flat this week. HAG5 will kick that up slightly, but most of the coming effect will be a market adjustment as the drone minerals go away. |
Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.04.23 13:17:00 -
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Neo Agricola wrote:
Good bye Drakes for 34 Mil, Hello Drake for 100 -120 Mil...
That's a bit over the top. In order for a Drake to hit 100-120M, the following would have to happen:
Veld 360 Scor 325 Pyro 396 Plag 312 Omb 274 Kern 372 Jasp 450 Hemo 538 Hedb 552
Gneiss 360 DarkO 517 Spod 221 Croc 722 Bist 703 Ark 812
Trit 12 Pye 15 Mex 100 Iso 250 Nocx 1500 Zyd 3600 Mega 6000 Morph 18000
Which would give a Drake build cost of about 97M ISK/u.
At those prices, a solo hulk pilot in hi-sec would be making 32-34M/hr. Add in gang bonuses from the orca and you're looking at 55M/hr (104M/hr in null-sec off of ABCs). Which might happen short-term, but would not be sustainable.
Probable target for hi-sec solo hulk mining (90k m3/hr) is going to be around 20M/hr long-term, as long as CCP keeps banning the bots. Out in null-sec, I'd expect something around 45-50M/hr (90k m3/hr). That puts the price of hi-sec Tritanium at around 7 ISK/u. |
Scrapyard Bob
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Posted - 2012.04.24 12:14:00 -
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You don't need a new mining ship, what you do need is for the Procurer to be brought up to useful levels (you know, the barge that everyone says "don't bother with"). Then you can bump the retty up slightly, bump the covetor up slightly and bump the hulk up slightly.
The procurer suffers primarily from only having 1 high slot instead of matching up with the 2 slots that the retty has.
The covetor, retty, hulk set mostly suffer from way too little PG, slightly too little CPU and a lack of low-mid slots (all of them could use 1-2 more mids and 1-2 more lows).
Not needing a new hull design means you don't get stuck in the art department bottleneck, which would push your "new" ship back about 15-20 months. |
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