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Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.05 17:19:00 - [1] Edited by: Ix Forres on 05/02/2009 17:22:29 tl;dr http://accview.mmmetrics.co.uk/ accVIEW is a simple, free, easy to use tool (At least I hope it's easy to use...) for corporation recruitment officers. Used to be you'd have to add a prospective applicant's account to evemon to check if their account was filled with BoB alts. Nowadays, of course, you'll be looking for a solution to finding out that your applicant has a Goonswarm director alt. Look no further! To quote from the documentation on the site: Using accVIEW is simple. It goes something along the lines of this. * Interview your applicant * Generate a request for their name * Give the applicant the URL to the request * Applicant provides their API key to accVIEW * You now have a summary of that character's account! And it's as simple as that. Right now it does skills, finances, corp and alliance membership, for all characters on the account. I'm open to suggestions as to how this could be improved- drop me an evemail or a reply here. Enjoy! http://accview.mmmetrics.co.uk/ -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense \| EVE Metrics (NEW) \| I Tweet
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2009.02.05 18:58:00 - [2] Nice and sleek; I like this.
Yushania	Posted - 2009.02.06 15:30:00 - [3] Hi, this seems to fit the bill to what i would like. A few queries. Could i possibly purchase (with ISK) a licencse to use this software hosted from my own webspace. But would you be able to modify it slighlty. What I am looking for is an interface whereby they register in-game and must submit their limited API, this would then create an account in the same MySQL database that my forum and killboard runs out of. Then this interface as a seperate entity on that Host that only selected members may view (as in recruitment officers/directors) That would be cool. I have a budget of hopefully 500m. Or a GTC to the account of your choice :) Thanks in advance! Yushania
FullMetal Basilisk Minmatar Freeform Industries	Posted - 2009.02.06 18:09:00 - [4] within the program itself, is there any way to create a method to do a quick background check on the corp/allience that member is with?
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.06 21:10:00 - [5] Edited by: Ix Forres on 06/02/2009 21:10:22 Originally by: FullMetal Basilisk within the program itself, is there any way to create a method to do a quick background check on the corp/allience that member is with? How would you define a background check on either corp or alliance? What information would you like to see? Yushania: Drop me an evemail and we can discuss things, or catch me on IRC (irc.coldfront.net query Ix_Forres or catch me in #eve-dev)
FullMetal Basilisk Minmatar Freeform Industries	Posted - 2009.02.06 22:38:00 - [6] before i go into that, i believe i found a bug. http://accview.mmmetrics.co.uk/respond/FullMetal-Basilisk/ the URL is too generic. It looks like if you try to check the same character on two separate main accounts, it bugs. both myself and one of my colleagues checked it, and it worked on my account but not on his. and in regards to corp sec check: we need the following: Alliance CEO Headquarters Members Description Website thx bud
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.06 23:10:00 - [7] Originally by: FullMetal Basilisk before i go into that, i believe i found a bug. http://accview.mmmetrics.co.uk/respond/FullMetal-Basilisk/ the URL is too generic. It looks like if you try to check the same character on two separate main accounts, it bugs. both myself and one of my colleagues checked it, and it worked on my account but not on his. and in regards to corp sec check: we need the following: Alliance CEO Headquarters Members Description Website thx bud A very true point- I hadn't forseen this but now I think of it, it's fairly obvious. Oops. Corp info to that level (alliance too) should be a piece of cake. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense \| EVE Metrics (NEW) \| I Tweet
FullMetal Basilisk Minmatar Freeform Industries	Posted - 2009.02.07 00:56:00 - [8] Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 07/02/2009 01:02:25 Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 07/02/2009 01:01:26 Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 07/02/2009 01:00:04 hey bud, so far so good apart from something in the corp retrieval might be buggy: "Corporate Summary Freeform Industries (FFID) have 26 members and are lead by CEO (unknown) The corporation is based in (unknown)" the other bug, is that when I attempt to edit my account, it gives the message: There were problems with the following fields: # Login is too short (minimum is 3 characters) however, it doesn't give the login input box at the time (only when the error comes up), then when I attempt to put in my login (due to the fact I only wish to (for example) change an email), it says "login has already been taken" also, is there a way to delete requests? thx :)
John'eh Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2009.02.07 05:47:00 - [9] And you expect us to trust you with API keys? Make a non-hosted solution or make it open source, most people are not stupid enough to hand this sort of data open to somebody they can not trust like yourself. I'm not saying your untrustworthy, but what what exactly have you done that means I should? Nothing. - John'eh
FullMetal Basilisk Minmatar Freeform Industries	Posted - 2009.02.07 09:09:00 - [10] Originally by: John'eh And you expect us to trust you with API keys? Make a non-hosted solution or make it open source, most people are not stupid enough to hand this sort of data open to somebody they can not trust like yourself. I'm not saying your untrustworthy, but what what exactly have you done that means I should? Nothing. i agree with what you say, just not how you said it. I do have my own concerns as to where the API key is actually being stored, and/or HOW its being stored. If we could possibly see the source code and/or see a rectification where the API keys were encrypted in something other than an MD5 hash so that you yourself had no physical access to them, that would be slightly more settling. however, being a limited API key, theres no much you can find out about a character other than what u can find out publicly anyways.

Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.07 09:52:00 - [11] Originally by: John'eh And you expect us to trust you with API keys? Make a non-hosted solution or make it open source, most people are not stupid enough to hand this sort of data open to somebody they can not trust like yourself. I'm not saying your untrustworthy, but what what exactly have you done that means I should? Nothing. Keys are not stored, at all. They are used once when they are input to load a character and corporation sheet. They are also filtered from all logs for security. Open sourcing the application has crossed my mind, but A) How many corps have hosts that can run Rails applications? It's actually fairly complex behind-the-scenes.., and B) There will be support for additional data via the full API key, which will be a paid service. Corps will be able to buy the service and issue full API requests to potential members to view wallet data and kills. If you don't want to trust me, that's fine; nobody is forcing you to use this. The application was written in 9 hours total- it's not that complicated if you want to write your own. This started out as an idea for a corp-internal tool which I released publicly for others to use. I will also be adding support for request deletion and comments. Old requests may have corps with (unknown) values- these are requests that were made before I added that data to the corporation loader from the API. As keys are not stored I cannot retroactively load new data.
FullMetal Basilisk Minmatar Freeform Industries	Posted - 2009.02.07 16:06:00 - [12] Originally by: Ix Forres Edited by: Ix Forres on 07/02/2009 11:09:46 Originally by: John'eh And you expect us to trust you with API keys? Make a non-hosted solution or make it open source, most people are not stupid enough to hand this sort of data open to somebody they can not trust like yourself. I'm not saying your untrustworthy, but what what exactly have you done that means I should? Nothing. Keys are not stored, at all. They are used once when they are input to load a character and corporation sheet. They are also filtered from all logs for security. If I had stored them they'd be encrypted using 4096-bit RSA public/private key encryption as they are in my other projects, but in this I saw no reason to store keys. I may add SSL support if there's enough demand and maybe some donations to support the cost, but right now it's fairly moot. I could add SSL but it would be an OpenCA certificate like Gatecamper uses, which throws up security warnings in most browsers as OpenCA aren't on most browser CA lists. Open sourcing the application has crossed my mind, but A) How many corps have hosts that can run Rails applications? It's actually fairly complex behind-the-scenes.., and B) There will be support for additional data via the full API key, which will be a paid service. Corps will be able to buy the service and issue full API requests to potential members to view wallet data and kills. If you don't want to trust me, that's fine; nobody is forcing you to use this. The application was written in 9 hours total- it's not that complicated if you want to write your own. This started out as an idea for a corp-internal tool which I released publicly for others to use. I will also be adding support for request deletion and comments. Old requests may have corps with (unknown) values- these are requests that were made before I added that data to the corporation loader from the API. As keys are not stored I cannot retroactively load new data. ah brilliant. So basically once we check the character(s), the API key itself isnt updated any further? Good to hear if that's the case. Also Ix, if you look above John's post, theres a coupla more bugs and features ideas. thanks
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.07 16:09:00 - [13] I've fixed all the bugs you've mentioned and added a deletion button to requests. Fixes will go live with the next release, which will also include the premium functionality for the low price of 100mISK per corporation one-off payment, no subscription or anything. Hopefully I'll have that done this evening or tomorrow sometime and pushed up to the production environment.
FullMetal Basilisk Minmatar Freeform Industries	Posted - 2009.02.07 16:28:00 - [14] Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 07/02/2009 16:30:05 Originally by: Ix Forres I've fixed all the bugs you've mentioned and added a deletion button to requests. Fixes will go live with the next release, which will also include the premium functionality for the low price of 100mISK per corporation one-off payment, no subscription or anything. Hopefully I'll have that done this evening or tomorrow sometime and pushed up to the production environment. oooh premium? could u possibly list the additional features that one would get for that price? thank you! on another feature note, would it be possible to give the home location of the clone for the character? (eg where they have updated their clone location where they pop up after they've been podded).
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.07 17:53:00 - [15] Edited by: Ix Forres on 07/02/2009 17:53:17 Originally by: FullMetal Basilisk oooh premium? could u possibly list the additional features that one would get for that price? thank you! on another feature note, would it be possible to give the home location of the clone for the character? (eg where they have updated their clone location where they pop up after they've been podded). Premium enables full key requests, which lets you look at wallet journals, recent kills, standings, and medals. I'm also planning to cook up an API which will require premium. The clone location isn't available, though clone skillpoints is. So far gotten kills and wallet journal done- just standings and medals to go, but I'm wondering if medals are worthwhile. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense \| EVE Metrics (NEW) \| I Tweet
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.08 15:22:00 - [16] Apologies for the doublepost in advance... Premium is now up and running. The API is working but as yet not tested thoroughly. I've dropped standings and medals for now as there's not actually that much interesting info in there- if there's demand for them I'll spend an afternoon working on them but otherwise I don't plan to add them. Wallet journal and kills are now both available to premium users. Premium status is updated hourly automatically via the API- follow the instructions on the account page to get premium enabled. Premium is corp-wide- your corp just needs one person to enable premium for the rest of the corp to get premium too. Bear in mind that if you want to view premium data for old applicants you will have to get them to resubmit their response, as the premium data would not have been loaded for them. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense \| EVE Metrics (NEW) \| I Tweet
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.11 22:40:00 - [17] As requested, you can now archive requests. I've also added a few tools for the journal screen. You can now filter by types (donations, corp payments, shares), and through some of the libraries I wrote for EVE Metrics, you can now filter down to suspicious journal entries. These are entries that are much larger payments than the usual entries, such as you might see on corp thieves or other characters which exist only for dodgy activities and are funded by another account. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense \| EVE Metrics (NEW) \| I Tweet
FullMetal Basilisk Minmatar Freeform Industries	Posted - 2009.02.20 19:46:00 - [18] Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 20/02/2009 19:47:42 would it be possible to have a corp login? let me summarise: a director/CEO logs in, he then has "user permissions" he basically then sends out a request (use same process as character checking), and he can then get a list of users set up. The users could have the following statuses: CEO Director Officer this would allow for officers, directors and CEOs to see approval or denies without too much hassle. Alot more centralised and thus better communications. ofc, have this maybe only on the premium.
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:37:00 - [19] Originally by: FullMetal Basilisk Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 21/02/2009 00:07:02 Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 20/02/2009 23:44:29 Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 20/02/2009 19:47:42 would it be possible to have a corp login? let me summarise: a director/CEO logs in, he then has "user permissions" he basically then sends out a request (use same process as character checking), and he can then get a list of users set up. The users could have the following statuses: CEO Director Officer this would allow for officers, directors and CEOs to see approval or denies without too much hassle. Alot more centralised and thus better communications. ofc, have this maybe only on the premium. Also, in regards to bugs/suggestions, if you have archived all of your applicants, there is not an options to see your archived items. edit: on another note, I thought it was 100mil, not 150mil ISK for premium??? Would a permission system that allowed directors to set up a list of allowed accVIEW users be sufficient? It'd be easier to implement and would get you the same functionality. Just have people register, let directors/CEO see a list of all accVIEW users in the corp and assign them access to view requests. If no CEO/director is registered, anyone can see requests. I'll fix the problem with archiving all applicants; that's definately a bug. The price was variable; I felt 150mISK was still within the budgetary ranges of nearly all corps who would need this tool, and compared to other web tools for EVE it's still on the cheap end of things. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense \| EVE Metrics (NEW) \| I Tweet
FullMetal Basilisk Minmatar Freeform Industries	Posted - 2009.02.21 15:47:00 - [20] Originally by: Ix Forres Originally by: FullMetal Basilisk Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 21/02/2009 00:07:02 Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 20/02/2009 23:44:29 Edited by: FullMetal Basilisk on 20/02/2009 19:47:42 would it be possible to have a corp login? let me summarise: a director/CEO logs in, he then has "user permissions" he basically then sends out a request (use same process as character checking), and he can then get a list of users set up. The users could have the following statuses: CEO Director Officer this would allow for officers, directors and CEOs to see approval or denies without too much hassle. Alot more centralised and thus better communications. ofc, have this maybe only on the premium. Also, in regards to bugs/suggestions, if you have archived all of your applicants, there is not an options to see your archived items. edit: on another note, I thought it was 100mil, not 150mil ISK for premium??? Would a permission system that allowed directors to set up a list of allowed accVIEW users be sufficient? It'd be easier to implement and would get you the same functionality. Just have people register, let directors/CEO see a list of all accVIEW users in the corp and assign them access to view requests. If no CEO/director is registered, anyone can see requests. I'll fix the problem with archiving all applicants; that's definately a bug. the permission system would suffice more than fine :)

Dan Treva Raptor Services LTD	Posted - 2009.02.21 19:12:00 - [21] Looks good mate. Only thing I can think of, is a way to link multiple requests to a single account. Example: Player A wants to sign up, he has 3 accounts. Player A Main Account - Player A 2nd Account - Player A 3rd Account Right now, they all get displayed separately which adds to clutter and confusion when someone needs to provide accept/deny input.
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.22 14:50:00 - [22] Originally by: Dan Treva Looks good mate. Only thing I can think of, is a way to link multiple requests to a single account. Example: Player A wants to sign up, he has 3 accounts. Player A Main Account - Player A 2nd Account - Player A 3rd Account Right now, they all get displayed separately which adds to clutter and confusion when someone needs to provide accept/deny input. I'll see about implementing some functionality to have alts under mains. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense \| EVE Metrics (NEW) \| I Tweet
Ikki Phoenix Gallente Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.25 06:04:00 - [23] For some reason,the site is not loading ---------------------------------------------Get Eve Commander now---------------
Ikki Phoenix Gallente Red Core Paradigm Shift Alliance	Posted - 2009.02.25 18:18:00 - [24] I tried it with my character,but for some reason I am unable to view the info. Will have one of my people test it further ---------------------------------------------Get Eve Commander now---------------
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.02.25 19:38:00 - [25] Originally by: Ikki Phoenix I tried it with my character,but for some reason I am unable to view the info. Will have one of my people test it further Unfortunately the server's been fairly stressed recently after EVE Metrics went live; I'm working on resolving the issues at the moment. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense \| EVE Metrics (NEW) \| I Tweet
Tenchi Kousuke Tactical Gamer Universe LTD	Posted - 2009.02.26 00:35:00 - [26] Looks like an interesting concept but I've had no success getting to the site at all - keep getting a "Connection Interrupted" page. =( I hope you get it working soon!
MinerPewPew Caldari Ruthless Aggression Epidemic.	Posted - 2009.03.03 07:27:00 - [27] Minerpewpew supports this tool. Bump for Hugs and Win! - MinerPewPew
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.03.03 19:17:00 - [28] Originally by: Tenchi Kousuke Looks like an interesting concept but I've had no success getting to the site at all - keep getting a "Connection Interrupted" page. =( I hope you get it working soon! We had some server issues over the past week; it should be good now. If you continue to have problems accessing the site, let me know. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense \| EVE Metrics (NEW) \| I Tweet
Cre'nor	Posted - 2009.03.04 15:37:00 - [29] I too would be interested in the ability to purchase the premium version of this application for my own hosted site. It's not necessarily the issue of ME not trusting you. It's the potential recruits to my corp. I'd like to offer them the assurances that the info we're getting from them never leaves our control. I'm a sysadmin, so setting up a server running rails for my corp would not be a significant issue. Of course, since I'm interested in the premium functionality, I would even consider purchasing this with real money and entering into a licensing agreement with you saying that I won't provide or try to resell the premium functionality to other corporations (cutting into your profit.) Please let me know if you'd be up for some sort of agreement like this.
Ix Forres Caldari Vanguard Frontiers Sc0rched Earth	Posted - 2009.03.04 19:24:00 - [30] Originally by: Cre'nor I too would be interested in the ability to purchase the premium version of this application for my own hosted site. It's not necessarily the issue of ME not trusting you. It's the potential recruits to my corp. I'd like to offer them the assurances that the info we're getting from them never leaves our control. I'm a sysadmin, so setting up a server running rails for my corp would not be a significant issue. Of course, since I'm interested in the premium functionality, I would even consider purchasing this with real money and entering into a licensing agreement with you saying that I won't provide or try to resell the premium functionality to other corporations (cutting into your profit.) Please let me know if you'd be up for some sort of agreement like this. Drop me an EVEmail or grab me in IRC and we can discuss this- I'm certainly up for third-party hosting licensing for ISKies. -- Ix Forres EVE Application Developer ISKsense \| EVE Metrics (NEW) \| I Tweet



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