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Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.21 18:12:00 - [1] - Quote So I decided to break the bank a little and build a new rig. While unorthodox, in my opinion, to make a forum post about building a new PC, I feel a little special about it this time around and thought I'd share it with others who may a) give a crap b) are thinking of using the same or similar parts or c) are bored at work. So the reason I feel special about this build is because it's the first "expensive" build I've done. All my other computer builds have been sub-$400's. This time around the Executive Commander of the house (read: wife) is gratiously allowing me to build something a bit higher than that. Here's the parts list: CPU: Intel Core i7-2600 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) Motherboard: MSI H67A-G43 (B3) RAM: Pareema 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM PSU: APEVIA ATX-CB700W 700W Graphics: 2x ECS NGTX550TI-1GPLI-F1 GeForce GTX 550 Ti (Fermi) 1GB HDD: 2x 320GB SATA6 7200 RPM in RAID 0 Antec 900 Case Bunch of other unimportant shite. I was really impressed with the CCP Presents portion with tesselation and all that, so I'm looking forward to being prepared. All in all it's about a $1,300 build. Parts should be in next Thursday.
masternerdguy Inner Shadow NightSong Directorate 351	Posted - 2012.04.21 18:13:00 - [2] - Quote I think you missed out of pod experience mate. Things are only impossible until they are not.
Mars Theran EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance 137	Posted - 2012.04.21 18:25:00 - [3] - Quote You're an early adopter of the technology required for DirectX11 and Tesselation as it pertains to use in EVE Online, but I think you'll see the benefits elsewhere. Not sure how long it will be before/if that happens as it is just speculation at this time. Granted, I think it must happen, but that is because I see it as inevitable. I've never heard of Pareema RAM - Kingston HyperX works fine in my experience and is usually cheaper. Apevia scares me - Power Supplies are very important; particularly given Intels CPUs seem to be increasing in sensitivity and are potentially susceptible to death by psu.. I assume you mean WD Black HDDs - Sadly I don't have anything good to say about any HDDs MSI is making reasonably decent boards these days. The funny thing is you picked one that didn't support SLI for Nvidia cards. Antec 900? Cooler Master makes some half decent cheap cases. CPU is good and I hope the P67 chipset has some vast improvements over P55 There is no such thing as unimportant shite when it comes to building a proper PC Turn WiS into wIN! ..make all the characters Nude.
Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.21 18:37:00 - [4] - Quote Mars Theran wrote: MSI is making reasonably decent boards these days. The funny thing is you picked one that didn't support SLI for Nvidia cards. Oh wow, I didn't notice that. That's kind of a big deal. I'm going to assume they build boards with more than one PCI Express port for dual-head setups. Thanks for the heads up there! EDIT: I think this is what threw me. One of the reviews stated "Supports CrossFireX and SLI. SATA 6 GB/s. UEFI BIOS". EDIT 2: Sure enough, it doesn't support SLI, though it oddly does support Crossfire.
Mars Theran EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance 138	Posted - 2012.04.21 18:56:00 - [5] - Quote Dare Knight wrote: Mars Theran wrote: MSI is making reasonably decent boards these days. The funny thing is you picked one that didn't support SLI for Nvidia cards. Oh wow, I didn't notice that. That's kind of a big deal. I'm going to assume they build boards with more than one PCI Express port for dual-head setups. Thanks for the heads up there! EDIT: I think this is what threw me. One of the reviews stated "Supports CrossFireX and SLI. SATA 6 GB/s. UEFI BIOS". EDIT 2: Sure enough, it doesn't support SLI, though it oddly does support Crossfire. It's not really the number of PCIe slots that determines Crossfire or SLI but whether it has built in support for it. If you look at the manufacturer specs, most of them will tell you if it does or not and whether it supports 2 8x, 1 16x + 2 8x, etc.. EVGA has good forums, and there are some others that really get into it, but you can find most of them from there with a quick question in the right place. http://forums.evga.com Turn WiS into wIN! ..make all the characters Nude.
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings 817	Posted - 2012.04.21 19:06:00 - [6] - Quote [Unimportant reply] OOPE is over here. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members!
Mark Androcius 34	Posted - 2012.04.21 19:09:00 - [7] - Quote Have a look at EVGA mate, i got me a nice setup with an SR2 at home. Yes i am dutch, no i don't do drugs.
Theodotus Alduin GENESIS - 1st Armored Division - Spearhead The Unforgiven Alliance 1	Posted - 2012.04.21 19:12:00 - [8] - Quote Stay away from Apevia for power supplies, as well as brands like Diablotek, Logisys, Raidmax, and Maxcool. They are all junk in that they either cannot provide the labeled power or if they can it is waaaaaay out of specification and will kill your components over time with dirty power. That said, this system will need no more than 600 watts for power as GTX 550's are not that power-hungry. Anything from Antec, Seasonic, or Corsair would be a good choice, as well as Rosewill Capstone, Hive, and Green series power supplies. There are quite a few more good models I could list but that should give plenty of options. Rule of thumb is to never cheap out on the power supply, as it is one of the most critical components in your system and can affect all of the other components in your system as well.
Alpheias Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse 606	Posted - 2012.04.21 19:13:00 - [9] - Quote Two things I change, a different PSU brand like Antec, Coolermaster or Corsair and go with a 560ti instead of two 550s as the 550 is a overclocked 460. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more
supersexysucker Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur 77	Posted - 2012.04.21 19:18:00 - [10] - Quote Fail build... i7 when all you need is an i5 low end cards 550 ti's please... get 560s or better... TBH really bad time to biuld now as everyone is dropping new tech... CPUs GPUs... etc... H board so no overclocking only onboard vid... I mean its so fail imma just redo it 2500k asrock z68 extream gskill 16gig 2x8 gig sticks 1600 should be good crosair 650watt psu 1 680 1 tb WD black whatever case you want If you ordered that all already cancle... wasted $100 on HT when nothing is gona use it Got the wrong mobo as that MOBO is for onboard vid... you have 2x GPUS wtf u need the IGPU for a 2600k with out 16 gigs of ram is lol wtf u need the i7 for (well you dont) 2x lowend gpus are always a bad idea over 1 high end The HDDS are pointless 2x 320s? wtf And ya the psu will likely blow up and take everything with it anyways... also before anyone wants to say anything I'm running 875k @ 4.0 16 gigs 9 9 9 23 @ 1444 main OS drive is 130 gigs off a 1tb WD black evga 470 evga p55 mobo If I did it again... I get a i5. VERY semdom do I end up using all 8 threads and those times are normaly cracking passwords.

Dradius Calvantia Creative Cookie Procuring Veto Corp 256	Posted - 2012.04.21 19:44:00 - [11] - Quote Agreeing with the those who advise that you should cancel that order if it is still possible. The two biggest offenders are of course the PSU and the MB, but you should also reconsider the SLI 550's. On top of that, you are over paying by about 20-40% at the price you listed. Where are you trying to order these components from? Looking at an I5 build may also be a good option for you unless you plan on doing something that absolutely needs the extra cores of the I7 (EVE certainly does not.)
supersexysucker Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur 77	Posted - 2012.04.21 20:10:00 - [12] - Quote an i7 does not have extra cores it has HYPER THREADING... 4 cores 8 threads... 8-) No wonder amd can claim to have 8 core CPUs lol. No amd FX cpus are NOT 2 4 8 cores. an 8"core" amd is nothing more than a 4 core with a few extra things in it... Think of it as failed hyper threading... WAY more heat power usage transistors... It's like having two cars but one motor... Sure you can use either of them... but your sharing the heart of the car that's what amd FX cpus do.
Mars Theran EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance 138	Posted - 2012.04.21 20:27:00 - [13] - Quote supersexysucker wrote: an i7 does not have extra cores it has HYPER THREADING... 4 cores 8 threads... 8-) No wonder amd can claim to have 8 core CPUs lol. No amd FX cpus are NOT 2 4 8 cores. an 8"core" amd is nothing more than a 4 core with a few extra things in it... Think of it as failed hyper threading... WAY more heat power usage transistors... It's like having two cars but one motor... Sure you can use either of them... but your sharing the heart of the car that's what amd FX cpus do. hmm.. Hyper-Threading isn't the only benefit of an i7 processor, but reagrding that, I have had activity on all 8 cores, (4 real and 4 virtual), with no more than Windows and IE running. If that's the case, how useless do you really think it is? That said, i5 is fine for most uses-including gaming-but keep in mind that it does have other limitations that may or may not matter depending on whether you need them for other stuff. I have no idea what you are talking about with that last bit or how it is even relevent here. AMD underperforms, and just doesn't make the cut. They're not even cheap anymore. Turn WiS into wIN! ..make all the characters Nude.

ISD Eshtir Community Communications Liaisons 85	Posted - 2012.04.21 20:33:00 - [14] - Quote Thread moved to OOP ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.21 20:53:00 - [15] - Quote Thanks for all the input, guys. I've put a cancel on the order and re-ordered with some tweaks mentioned here. Of those, I changed these parts: Motherboard: MSI Z77MA-G45 Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Series EA-750 Green 750W CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink And of course, with all builds I've ever done, I always use Arctic Silver for my thermal paste. I am keeping the i7 because I will definitely be using the extra oomf. I'm a software developer and I utilize Linux (Gentoo, more specifically), so I will definitely benefit during compiles. The RAID setup is largely from the fact that ever since I started using RAID, I've fallen in love with the access performance. Mostly a preferential thing. I don't need bigger harddrives initially as I mostly pull from my NAS, do my work locally, and recommit to NAS, syncing through my SVN. That, of course, is all work-related though. For games, of which EVE is the major game in place besides a few others, the dual 550's was motivated partly by cost and review. Upon further inspection I see that the 560's aren't much more, but what doesn't add up is the clocks appear lower on the 560's than the 550's (850MHz core clock on the 560 Superclocked by EVGA vs 900MHz core clock on the ECS I'm getting, which only has a few spotty reviews, much like all products). One major difference I noted, though, was the 256-bit memory pipe on the 560's vs the 192-bit pipe on the 550's. That's not to say I won't RMA the 550's and go with 560's. I may just do that. Or I know someone at work who would love an upgrade from an X1800 Radeon. So the advice there is definitely heeded. EDIT: I did take the time to read this, so it's interesting to note that the performance is definitely higher on the 560's.
supersexysucker Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur 77	Posted - 2012.04.21 21:11:00 - [16] - Quote Mars Theran wrote: supersexysucker wrote: hmm.. Hyper-Threading isn't the only benefit of an i7 processor, but regarding that, I have had activity on all 8 cores, (4 real and 4 virtual), with no more than Windows and IE running. If that's the case, how useless do you really think it is? edit: I suppose it's more appropriate to say 8 virtual cores on 4 real cores, but it is most often just referred to as 4+4. That said, i5 is fine for most uses-including gaming-but keep in mind that it does have other limitations that may or may not matter depending on whether you need them for other stuff. I have no idea what you are talking about with that last bit or how it is even relevent here. AMD underperforms, and just doesn't make the cut. They're not even cheap anymore. did I not say threads or something? i7 4 CORES 8 THREADS each CORE runs 2 THREADS No virturial cores... no other dumb ****... it is THREADS logic THREADS. the i7 has 2 more mb of cache... go look up game reviews, and i7 will be the same as an i5... take a 2% margin its the SAME thing. the fact you do not understand how an AMD cpu is structured means you should not comment on an i5 vs i7. as for OP. meh meh crap Hyper 212+ likely better... also an aftermarket heatsink is not really needed unless you plan to OC. AS is no longer the best paste... off the top of my head I do not have what is deemed better (due to not drying out, no break in time etc) it will work fine just an FYI. Gentoo looks to support CUDA... you should be using your GPUS to do the work not the CPU. look into it, I do not use that software. SSD better than raid i0 if you do not need space. GPUS are parallel processors... aka more cores = more performace pretty much... I am not looking it up however, a 560 with more cuda cores will out do a 550 with a higher clock but less cores. Memory "pipe" ya bigger is better...
Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.21 21:15:00 - [17] - Quote supersexysucker wrote: Mars Theran wrote: supersexysucker wrote: hmm.. Hyper-Threading isn't the only benefit of an i7 processor, but regarding that, I have had activity on all 8 cores, (4 real and 4 virtual), with no more than Windows and IE running. If that's the case, how useless do you really think it is? edit: I suppose it's more appropriate to say 8 virtual cores on 4 real cores, but it is most often just referred to as 4+4. That said, i5 is fine for most uses-including gaming-but keep in mind that it does have other limitations that may or may not matter depending on whether you need them for other stuff. I have no idea what you are talking about with that last bit or how it is even relevent here. AMD underperforms, and just doesn't make the cut. They're not even cheap anymore. did I not say threads or something? i7 4 CORES 8 THREADS each CORE runs 2 THREADS No virturial cores... no other dumb ***... it is THREADS logic THREADS. the i7 has 2 more mb of cache... go look up game reviews, and i7 will be the same as an i5... take a 2% margin its the SAME thing. the fact you do not understand how an AMD cpu is structured means you should not comment on an i5 vs i7. as for OP. meh meh crap Hyper 212+ likely better... also an aftermarket heatsink is not really needed unless you plan to OC. AS is no longer the best paste... off the top of my head I do not have what is deemed better (due to not drying out, no break in time etc) it will work fine just an FYI. Gentoo looks to support CUDA... you should be using your GPUS to do the work not the CPU. look into it, I do not use that software. SSD better than raid i0 if you do not need space. GPUS are parallel processors... aka more cores = more performace pretty much... I am not looking it up however, a 560 with more cuda cores will out do a 550 with a higher clock but less cores. Memory "pipe" ya bigger is better... Yeah I went ahead and ordered the EVGA Superclocked 560. Looking at the specs, it is very superior. I'm just going to RMA back the 550's. I don't see where I needed SLI to begin with other than to say I SLI, but it looks like the 560, at least from some article I remember reading somewhere just now, apparently gives 550's in SLI a run for their money. I've heard* of and know someone that does some fancy piping with gcc to their graphics card. I'm definitely going to look into that. Thanks for the reminder.
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns 79	Posted - 2012.04.22 07:40:00 - [18] - Quote Dare Knight wrote: Thanks for all the input, guys. I've put a cancel on the order and re-ordered with some tweaks mentioned here. Of those, I changed these parts: Motherboard: MSI Z77MA-G45 Power Supply: Antec EarthWatts Series EA-750 Green 750W CPU Cooler: ZALMAN CNPS9500 AT 2 Ball CPU Cooling Fan/Heatsink And of course, with all builds I've ever done, I always use Arctic Silver for my thermal paste. I am keeping the i7 because I will definitely be using the extra oomf. I'm a software developer and I utilize Linux (Gentoo, more specifically), so I will definitely benefit during compiles. The RAID setup is largely from the fact that ever since I started using RAID, I've fallen in love with the access performance. Mostly a preferential thing. I don't need bigger harddrives initially as I mostly pull from my NAS, do my work locally, and recommit to NAS, syncing through my SVN. That, of course, is all work-related though. For games, of which EVE is the major game in place besides a few others, [EDITED OUT] I broke and ordered the EVGA 560 Superclocked. Gonna RMA the two 550's. EDIT: I did take the time to read this, so it's interesting to note that the performance is definitely higher on the 560's. That looks much better than the original build. If I would make a few suggestions though, go with a lower-end CPU if you are ordering today, ivy bridge CPU's will quickly obselete whatever sandy bridge you plan on getting, so best not spend big bucks on that. Please don't use those 2x 320gb drives, they will cost a fortune and not really all that fast. You're probably better off getting maybe 2-3x 120GB SSD in RAID0, and then getting a few 1-2TB caviar blue/black in say, RAID 5 for your data storage. Even just 2x 120gb SSD with 1x 1TB data drive is going to give you better performance, ample space (with your NAS) and at a relatively low cost. The only other thing is I would maybe spend another 10-20 on that PSU, considering you're working with some fairly high end components you'll want a PSU with a bronze/silver cert, and afaik the EarthWatts line don't sport that sort of reliability. My own setup is 950 @ 4ghz 12GB Kingston HyperX @ 9-10-9-27 1950mhz 2x Palit GTX470 X58A UD3R Corsair TX850 3x 120gb Corsair Force3 SSD RAID0 4x 1TB WD Cav Blue RAID 5 3x 2TB Hitachi Deskstar RAID 5 Modified Antec DF-30
Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.22 17:09:00 - [19] - Quote Copine Callmeknau wrote: The only other thing is I would maybe spend another 10-20 on that PSU, considering you're working with some fairly high end components you'll want a PSU with a bronze/silver cert, and afaik the EarthWatts line don't sport that sort of reliability. According to NewEgg and the Antec website, the PSU is 80 Plus Certified at Bronze, though the Antec site doesn't expressly state the Bronze part of the certification. All in all, every build I've done has been with Antec, so I'm sure this time around it'll be the same high quality. I only picked something else this time because I'm ******** and brain farted. I thought about the new Intel processor class coming out, and while I'd love to upgrade at that time, I'm not guessing my processor will be the first thing to upgrade. I use to be that kid who bought parts every week and kept upgrading, but not so much now. Plus for EVE and what I do, I'm sure that the Sandy will do just fine for many years to come. I definitely have it in mind, though. Truth be told I'm a little broke right now until I RMA some of those replaced parts, anyway, so ordering more parts again is kind of out of the question :P
supersexysucker Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group Ayn Sof Aur 80	Posted - 2012.04.22 18:23:00 - [20] - Quote Seems like we left out intel is having issues with IB and the tri gate transistors... the CPUs are using more power and making more heat than intel thought (still better than AMD) but I would not be like OMG NEED IB... IB no real performace gain anyways from SB... just a better IGPU i think and tri gate transistors.... PSUS now are WAY over 80+ bronze... I would get a gold + psu TBH... IDK how much power is where you are but... 10% on 500 watt draw is 50 watts here thats 13cents every 2 hours...

Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force 1048	Posted - 2012.04.22 22:44:00 - [21] - Quote supersexysucker wrote: Seems like we left out intel is having issues with IB and the tri gate transistors... the CPUs are using more power and making more heat than intel thought (still better than AMD) but I would not be like OMG NEED IB... IB no real performace gain anyways from SB... just a better IGPU i think and tri gate transistors.... Well, clock-for-clock, IBs are already ever so slightly better than SBs (tests reporting around 3% to 10% performance increases between a HT-off 2600K and a 3570K at stock speeds which are identical for both mentioned CPUs), but this first published revision "eats up" far more power than it should, because they kind of rushed the release (they delayed it a couple of times and were getting panicky). A 3570K will run slightly cooler at idle compared to a 2600K, but will heat up very fast under use if you leave TurboBoost enabled, because the "scaling" of the power consumption with overclocked frequencies (be it manually overclocked with TB off, or dynamically via enabled TB) is completely out of whack with what was expected of it. So I guess, yes, at the time being, with the current chip "print" revision, enthusiasts and overclockers kind of got the shaft, and quick adoption of IB would not be the greatest ideas for them. However, quite frankly, if obligated to switch the CPU and given the choice between a 2600K (at 320$) and a 3570K (at 210$), considering I always disable HT and TB anyway (and also no OC, keeping the CPUs at stock frequencies), I would not have even the slightest hesitation in picking the 3570K over the 2600K for a machine destined to be used by me, as it would be an improvement from every possible standpoint. Of course, that only applies to people like me, the guy still happily using an "ancient" (nearly 2 years since release) 45nm i5-760 [email protected], no HT, with TurboBoost disabled, at stock frequencies, only equipped with the stock cooler the CPU came with. I'll quite happily wait for the second or even the third revision for IB in the autumn/winter of 2012, or even more likely, wait for the second revision of the Haswell, most likely some time in the autumn of 2013 or even the spring of 2014. http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T http://eve-search.com/stats/Akita_T
Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2012.04.23 15:53:00 - [22] - Quote Got the tracking numbers to the packages. They will all cumulatively be at my door on Wednesday. Just for S&G's I'll post pictures and all that as I do the build. Just because I can.
Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2012.04.25 20:51:00 - [23] - Quote So I got my last shipment today and.... gasp the RAM was missing. I pull it up on NewEgg and find this: AN EXCEPTION IN THE SORTING PROCESS HAS OCCURRED. UPS HAS TAKEN CORRECTIVE ACTION.[X] Not only did they pack the RAM in it's own box, that box got put on the wrong truck. ARGH!!!! Gotta wait another day before I can fire this thing up...
Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.04.28 19:01:00 - [24] - Quote So it's all built up and has been running for a whole day now. The RAID has increased my access times about 60%, and the 560 Superclocked is a BEAST. Even in CQ I'm getting around 80FPS, in space around 200FPS. If only EVE supported 3D, I could totally tap that on my 3D TV (24", EVE is beautiful). I didn't end up returning that 550ti, instead I slotted it below the 560 and set it to Physx duty and am also using both cards w/ CUDA. That was a good choice. Overall very happy with the build. I'm going to add another 8GB of RAM to give me 16GB and throw in a Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatility-series. My CPU runs a little warm at 60 degrees so I'm also going to throw in an Arctic Cooling heatsink.
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns 105	Posted - 2012.04.28 19:23:00 - [25] - Quote Dare Knight wrote: a Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatility-series. My CPU runs a little warm at 60 degrees so I'm also going to throw in an Arctic Cooling heatsink. Don't get the sound card, you won't notice a difference And yeh seems a little hot There should be a rather awesome pic here
Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.04.28 19:38:00 - [26] - Quote Copine Callmeknau wrote: Dare Knight wrote: a Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatility-series. My CPU runs a little warm at 60 degrees so I'm also going to throw in an Arctic Cooling heatsink. Don't get the sound card, you won't notice a difference And yeh seems a little hot Just a bit. Every build I've done with an Arctic Cooling heatsink kept the processor around 50 degrees celcius. as long as we don't go hitting the 70's I'm not TOO worried about it, but I'd like some more leverage than 10 degrees celcius. I'm afraid of what the stock heatsink would do if I didn't use Arctic Silver...
Copine Callmeknau Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns 105	Posted - 2012.04.29 00:22:00 - [27] - Quote Dare Knight wrote: Copine Callmeknau wrote: Dare Knight wrote: a Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatility-series. My CPU runs a little warm at 60 degrees so I'm also going to throw in an Arctic Cooling heatsink. Don't get the sound card, you won't notice a difference And yeh seems a little hot Just a bit. Every build I've done with an Arctic Cooling heatsink kept the processor around 50 degrees celcius. as long as we don't go hitting the 70's I'm not TOO worried about it, but I'd like some more leverage than 10 degrees celcius. I'm afraid of what the stock heatsink would do if I didn't use Arctic Silver... Hmmm, what sort of temps do you get inside your house? My intake temp is 23C atm, running EVE and a few other things I got 50C on CPU, that's with my OC and a fairly undersize case. I get high 30's low 40's on idle or when intake is more like 10-15C, max load can see up to 80+ though, can't really do that unless I cool the air going in I'd be hoping your temps are more like 30-40 at light load with a good sink, I use the same paste and if you apply it well it does a fantastic job. There should be a rather awesome pic here
Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.04.30 19:14:00 - [28] - Quote Copine Callmeknau wrote: Dare Knight wrote: Copine Callmeknau wrote: Dare Knight wrote: a Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatility-series. My CPU runs a little warm at 60 degrees so I'm also going to throw in an Arctic Cooling heatsink. Don't get the sound card, you won't notice a difference And yeh seems a little hot Just a bit. Every build I've done with an Arctic Cooling heatsink kept the processor around 50 degrees celcius. as long as we don't go hitting the 70's I'm not TOO worried about it, but I'd like some more leverage than 10 degrees celcius. I'm afraid of what the stock heatsink would do if I didn't use Arctic Silver... Hmmm, what sort of temps do you get inside your house? My intake temp is 23C atm, running EVE and a few other things I got 50C on CPU, that's with my OC and a fairly undersize case. I get high 30's low 40's on idle or when intake is more like 10-15C, max load can see up to 80+ though, can't really do that unless I cool the air going in I'd be hoping your temps are more like 30-40 at light load with a good sink, I use the same paste and if you apply it well it does a fantastic job. The room it's in stay at around 26. It's odd because when I'm in BIOS, it shoots up from 50 to 60 and stays there. During idle operation it usually stays around 50, and during heavy load is around 62. I pulled the heat sink to make sure I applied it properly and, as usual, I did. I put on a rice seed sized drop, spread it out over the top of the processor, and secure the heatsink to it. Of course, I always apply alcohol to clean off any impurities. I know the stock heatsink does a shoddy job and doesn't really push any high CFM or anything. The AC heatsink I want to get pushes about 80 CFM of air and isn't much louder than the stock fan, so I'm looking forward to it. All in all it's nowhere near a danger zone as far as temps go, but I would like to see cooler temps than what I'm seeing. I'm not worried about it, just desiring better performance in my cooler. EDIT: I have thought about water cooling, and I know that the liquid that is used supposedly doesn't conduct in case of a spill, but.... there's just something about 'liquid' and 'computer' that doesn't jive well in my mind.
Dare Knight Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.04.30 19:25:00 - [29] - Quote I'm reading this and it seems like water cooling systems have improved since I last looked at them several years ago. I didn't know you could get JUST a CPU water cooling setup. I do have to wonder if it'd just be wiser to get a setup for my entire rig (i.e, CPU, VGA, and chipset) as opposed to just the CPU. Then again, all my temps on the other components are very very stable and I'm happy with them. In the case I have each harddrive sitting in front of it's own fan, keeping them cool. And the graphics card stay pretty cool by itself under it's own stock cooler (which EVGA seems to have done a wonderful job with).
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings 878	Posted - 2012.04.30 19:30:00 - [30] - Quote Protip for CPU heating problems: if you're using the stock heatsink/fan, that's why. Stock fans are generally absolute crap. Even something cheap like this will outperform most stock heatsinks/fans. Ed: nvm, I'm blind, I didn't see you had a custom fan. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members!



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