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Red Spring	Posted - 2009.02.09 12:26:00 - [1] Hi, does anyone know if CCP have a mac in their fishery? Just wondering, because when we report bugs they always seem to be surprised...

CCP Whisper	Posted - 2009.02.09 13:43:00 - [2] Our office is indeed in an old fish processing plant. No, it does not smell of fish, that joke was old an hour after we moved in. We have several Macs in the building. QA have an iMac, a Macbook Pro and two Mac Pros. Customer support has an iMac. My portable is now a Macbook Pro as well. We're looking at getting a newer iMac into both QA and Customer Support, but given that Apple machines now cost over a thousand dollars over the US price here in Iceland that's a bit of a tall order.

Kuro Togari Amarr	Posted - 2009.02.09 17:35:00 - [3] Edited by: Kuro Togari on 09/02/2009 17:41:09 ok so a mac costs over $1000 us. You have roughly 37k-57k from what i've seen logged on throughout the week, thats from $555000 - $855000 usd/month. Even with X trial accounts going it seems you should be able to afford a few more.. :P
Commander Excelsior	Posted - 2009.02.09 18:05:00 - [4] Originally by: Kuro Togari Edited by: Kuro Togari on 09/02/2009 17:41:09 ok so a mac costs over $1000 us. You have roughly 37k-57k from what i've seen logged on throughout the week, thats from $555000 - $855000 usd/month. Even with X trial accounts going it seems you should be able to afford a few more.. :P your arg is not funded. he told you that their macs are 1000$ over the Us price :D so 100% tax is... OMG what? :D 37-57k logged means 36.7-56.7k on windows :) (i hope im wrong) minus those who pay in isk and... lol 555000 $ where does that number comes? 55,500x10$ ? lol actually there are over 250k+ active accounts, but only 50k are sleeping at the same time more or less. their fishery is important for them to eat something close and fast when they're in a rush of coding. and... indeed they look surprised with mac bugs !!! we all know that there are NO bugs on mac !
Kuro Togari Amarr	Posted - 2009.02.09 18:43:00 - [5] Edited by: Kuro Togari on 09/02/2009 18:44:55 Ah my mistake then, I still think they are making enough money to be able to afford another couple macs. Well if macs are so expensive over there, hire me, fly me out there, put me up for a month until i find my own place and I will test for them ( I will bring my own macbook pro)! :P Kuro.
Apple Boy Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.10 02:08:00 - [6] in 2007 their operating profit was approximately 4.4mil and I'm willing to bet that it was much lower, if not in the negative, in 2008 as they started production of a second major game along with some major expansion of the tranquility cluster. CCP also has an obligation to their shareholders and of course the economy is going kaboom right now.
Ardoreal	Posted - 2009.02.10 05:24:00 - [7] Iceland's currency is seriously hammered too, CCP is probably having a difficult time being an Icelandic company and all with that. Here's hoping they can keep things straight for the time being until their currency recovers.
Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:10:00 - [8] So you are developing and TESTING Eve mac clients with 6 macs. Now it all starts to make sense... Stop whining.

CCP Whisper	Posted - 2009.02.10 12:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Dr Sheepbringer So you are developing and TESTING Eve mac clients with 6 macs. Now it all starts to make sense... No, CCP is developing and testing with six Macs in-house. There is also equipment at Transgaming and we also use third-party testing companies to run installer tests, benchmarking and the like. Not sure what the total number of Macs is that's being thrown at this project, but it's definitely more than ten and less than a thousand.

Red Spring	Posted - 2009.02.11 12:11:00 - [10] Thanks Whisper for the info - sorry for the rather smelly joke...

Dr Sheepbringer Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.11 12:29:00 - [11] Originally by: CCP Whisper Not sure what the total number of Macs is that's being thrown at this project, but it's definitely more than ten and less than a thousand. So it's twelve then Just kidding...yup, juuusttt kidding. Thanks for the info. Stop whining.
Shadowfigt	Posted - 2009.02.14 10:32:00 - [12] Edited by: Shadowfigt on 14/02/2009 10:32:58 As a response to what they earn each month from payments; If we say they have 250.000 paying users that pay ca. 15Ç a month it means CCP earns 250.000 * 15 = 3.750.000Ç a month. thats 45.000.000Ç a year. And btw it doesn't matter if someone buys GTC's for isks as the person u buy the GTC of, bought the GTC from CCP at allmost same price as the monthly fee. for those who are not familliar with the euro, this is what they earn in dollars: 57.993.427$
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.14 16:15:00 - [13] Since we know that all 250k users play the game on a mac... Do we have any statistics on how many accounts mainly use the OS X client at all? It would be interesting to know.
AplhaOmega	Posted - 2009.02.14 16:35:00 - [14] Btw to the person who said "minus those who pay in isk" - Well that doesn't matter, becuase at the end of the day, whoever is selling them the plex has paid for that plex, so CCP is still getting there cash ;) Just thought i would settle that part for you :)
Qordel Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2009.02.15 10:16:00 - [15] The number of macs debugging is occurring on really isn't terribly relevant. It's the diversity of the environments as well as the thoroughness of the testing. Testing something on a thousand instances of the same exact environment are not anywhere near as effective as a thousand different people testing the behavior of the application and attempting to break it. --
Alisyana	Posted - 2009.02.18 01:01:00 - [16] Originally by: CCP Whisper Our office is indeed in an old fish processing plant. No, it does not smell of fish, that joke was old an hour after we moved in. We have several Macs in the building. QA have an iMac, a Macbook Pro and two Mac Pros. Customer support has an iMac. My portable is now a Macbook Pro as well. We're looking at getting a newer iMac into both QA and Customer Support, but given that Apple machines now cost over a thousand dollars over the US price here in Iceland that's a bit of a tall order. Uh, why not buy them in the US? Call Apple, I'm sure they'd be willing to work out a corporate deal with CCP.
Aurora Morgan	Posted - 2009.02.18 01:44:00 - [17] Originally by: Qordel The number of macs debugging is occurring on really isn't terribly relevant. It's the diversity of the environments as well as the thoroughness of the testing. Testing something on a thousand instances of the same exact environment are not anywhere near as effective as a thousand different people testing the behavior of the application and attempting to break it. Just to prove your point we might add that the number of useful configurations that EVE is supported under is probably less than a dozen. None of the MacBooks or Mac mini's are supported, which leaves 2 MacBook Pros, 6 iMacs, 6 Mac Pros really... (Only counting versions that actually differ in graphics hardware. And I have probably missed some. Some of those Mac Pro graphics cards are really expensive too...) And this is under one OS version, so the amount of hardware isn't the problem really... Maybe the problem is that porting a game of this magnitude is quite hard? Ps. The Mac client works very well I think.
Alexa Kaalakiota Dark-Rising	Posted - 2009.02.26 22:18:00 - [18] Some of you don't realize the value of a dollar, or kronor if you will. Sure their subscription revenue generated each month is quite large. They have employees to pay which would make up for a large chunk of cash. As well as bandwidth costs, third party contractors, and not to mention the horrible state of Iceland's economy. CCP is also a very well run company. Some of you might disagree with having only 6 or whatever Apple Macintosh computers in house. Those 6 mac's may only be what they need. Also you can't just call up Apple to ship out some macs, it's called importation tax. As far as I can tell you're doing a great job with the mac client and keep it up. I hope that the apocrypha release goes smoothly for everyone.
G4sp4h Caldari Legionari Frontal Impact	Posted - 2009.03.01 11:12:00 - [19] Edited by: G4sp4h on 01/03/2009 11:12:24 Originally by: Aurora Morgan None of the MacBooks or Mac mini's are supported, which leaves 2 MacBook Pros, 6 iMacs, 6 Mac Pros really... From CCP: "The new Macbooks should not have any problems running the client after our release the 10th of March, you might however need to use the Premium Lite settings if there are problems with the Full Premium options."
Kaisergeist	Posted - 2009.03.06 23:00:00 - [20] Bring me to Fan Fest this year and I will "bring you" some of "my" Macbook Pros. Wire the cash to a escrow account, I purchase them for US prices with my Credit Card. (I may be able to work a discount here in NYC). I have them fax proof of purchase to you from Tekserve (NYC apple retailer). I pack them up out of box and hop on a fight to Fan Fest. I get to party with you all in Iceland and you get Macbook Pros. When you get your comps, i get access to the escrow. :)



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