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Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 24	Posted - 2012.04.25 03:32:00 - [31] - Quote Svodola Darkfury wrote: In a rattler you can do it with kinetic only hardeners (vs. guristas). I'm sort of wondering if I'm mistaking the 3rd pocket for where the heron is, because that's honestly not that hard of a room with a good Guristas specific tank. Was reading the EVE Survival of it and it says "Having the lead ship tank the entire pocket is extremely difficult, as it can put down 1300-1500 dps, in a wide variety of configurations. Here are some (extreme) examples:" I mistakenly thought that meant every time you run it not if you screw up royally and accidentally aggro the whole room. I havent BEEN in a WC lvl 4 in 3 forevers lol Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Barbie D0ll Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2012.04.25 10:33:00 - [32] - Quote actually, there is a small chance that the acceleration gate will throw you in the middle of the 3rd room leading to aggro of the entire room. I've almost lost a few ships this way with around 5% structure left
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 876	Posted - 2012.04.25 10:40:00 - [33] - Quote Dont mean to derail the thread,OP. I would like to know,in Eve survival is the 1300-1500 DPS without taking into account resistances? Or does it take some specific number as default.
Barbie D0ll Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 50	Posted - 2012.04.25 11:31:00 - [34] - Quote if i remember correctly, its omni-damage being primarily explosive if its angels
Jake Warbird Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 877	Posted - 2012.04.25 13:40:00 - [35] - Quote Yep,makes sense. Thanks Barb.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2012.04.25 13:59:00 - [36] - Quote http://www.eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WorldsCollide4ansa But Id either read it wrong or something lol Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Kailee Athonille Nebula Inc. Eternal Pretorian Alliance 1	Posted - 2012.04.25 14:07:00 - [37] - Quote Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: Im in a Rattlesnake with a normally like 700 dps tank (I tend to find if I have a 400 dps tank like ppl say you should have for 4s it gets ripped through in short order slo I deal with being overtanked). I got World's Collide lvl 4 and I read in eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WorldsCollide4ansa that pocket 3 pushes 1300-1500 dps. What tanks that? What fir for my ship or what ship am I looking for TO tank that? I have yet to receive World's Collide myself. I have run the mission a few times with much stronger players who were able to easily tank the mission while a few of us others flew around and blew up all the little fish. I believe that the main player was flying a Golum.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2012.04.25 14:22:00 - [38] - Quote Kailee Athonille wrote: Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: Im in a Rattlesnake with a normally like 700 dps tank (I tend to find if I have a 400 dps tank like ppl say you should have for 4s it gets ripped through in short order slo I deal with being overtanked). I got World's Collide lvl 4 and I read in eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WorldsCollide4ansa that pocket 3 pushes 1300-1500 dps. What tanks that? What fir for my ship or what ship am I looking for TO tank that? I have yet to receive World's Collide myself. I have run the mission a few times with much stronger players who were able to easily tank the mission while a few of us others flew around and blew up all the little fish. I believe that the main player was flying a Golum. Yah I took up the 1300 fit from earlier in the thread Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Urgg Boolean Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2012.04.25 19:21:00 - [39] - Quote I run these in my Rattlesnake with 120K EHP active shield repper - my cap dies in 6 mins - my standard L4 solo fit. Yes it can be uncomfortable, but the answer is to kill the NPCs fast enough. Lock on ASAP and start shooting. Take out BSs first cuz they will break your tank if you don't. Manage drone aggro as needed. My shield will alarm, but I never have to run. I have dual Omnidirectional Tracking links, dual drone link augmentors, three Caldari Ballistic controllers, and 4@T2 Torpedo Launchers using T1 torps, and dual target painters. Using Gardes + Torps + painters BS's go down fast. Max skills for shields, missiles, drones and painters is strongly recommended. T2 torp launchers really help too, but meta 4 is fine. My torps hit for sure at 44km and miss sometime up to 50K, which is out of range. If I used T2 torps, I could hit up to 50K too. Once you do this several times, you know that actually have a very good margin for error. If I have time tonight I'll post my loadout (I'm at work - shhh!)
Bunnie Hop Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.04.25 20:26:00 - [40] - Quote I love the Nighthawk for this mission. I used to use the Rattlesnake but its dps I found lacking and its a rather boring ship, good for lvl 5s though. For me though the Nighthawk reigns supreme for lvl 4s for enjoyment.
Something Random The Barrow Boys 138	Posted - 2012.04.25 23:01:00 - [41] - Quote I run a maelstrom with a rack of AC's Theres some tank but most of it melts before i get too busy with the shield rep cycles. "caught on fire a little bit, just a little." "Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!"
Katja Faith Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 54	Posted - 2012.04.25 23:19:00 - [42] - Quote Do whatever the cheat thread on Eve Survival tells you to do, silly!
ValentinaDLM Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 485	Posted - 2012.04.25 23:51:00 - [43] - Quote Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: Im in a Rattlesnake with a normally like 700 dps tank (I tend to find if I have a 400 dps tank like ppl say you should have for 4s it gets ripped through in short order slo I deal with being overtanked). I got World's Collide lvl 4 and I read in eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=WorldsCollide4ansa that pocket 3 pushes 1300-1500 dps. What tanks that? What fir for my ship or what ship am I looking for TO tank that? LOL, well the lowest ships I have done it in is the arbitrator and caracal, but i usually use the gila. If you can't figure out how simple it is to tank missions, watch the view I posted to prove how easy t1 cruisers can tank l4 missions, you can find them at YouTube under the username hikari2763. With a faction ship like a gila it should be a real snooze to do wc4
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 34	Posted - 2012.04.26 00:07:00 - [44] - Quote Katja Faith wrote: Do whatever the cheat thread on Eve Survival tells you to do, silly! Didnt know being well informed was considered cheating... Does that make using scouts in 0.0 cheating too? Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 74	Posted - 2012.04.29 00:04:00 - [45] - Quote lol ran into room 2 WC my friend aggroed the whole room by accident, I picked it up when he left, and dropped to 30% shields when I made it out He's in a Dominix doing all the dps basically [Rattlesnake, proof against fools] 4x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Cruise Missile) 2x Drone Link Augmentor II 2x Large Shield Extender II 3x Shield Recharger II EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II 6x Shield Power Relay II 3x Large Core Defense Field Purger II 5x Ogre II They broke 1600 dps lol [Statistics - Richard Aiel] Effective HP: 93,257 (Eve: 71,199) Tank Ability: 1,602.11 DPS Damage Profile - Sanshas Nation (EM: 59.83%, Ex: 0.00%, Ki: 7.98%, Th: 32.19%) Shield Resists - EM: 64.00%, Ex: 60.00%, Ki: 52.00%, Th: 63.60% Armor Resists - EM: 50.00%, Ex: 10.00%, Ki: 25.00%, Th: 45.00% Capacitor (Stable at 58.94%) Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
RubyPorto Profoundly Disturbed 1464	Posted - 2012.04.29 03:32:00 - [46] - Quote Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: lol ran into room 2 WC my friend aggroed the whole room by accident, I picked it up when he left, and dropped to 30% shields when I made it out He's in a Dominix doing all the dps basically [Rattlesnake, proof against fools] 4x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Cruise Missile) 2x Drone Link Augmentor II 2x Large Shield Extender II 3x Shield Recharger II EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II 6x Shield Power Relay II 3x Large Core Defense Field Purger II 5x Ogre II They broke 1600 dps lol [Statistics - Richard Aiel] Effective HP: 93,257 (Eve: 71,199) Tank Ability: 1,602.11 DPS Damage Profile - Sanshas Nation (EM: 59.83%, Ex: 0.00%, Ki: 7.98%, Th: 32.19%) Shield Resists - EM: 64.00%, Ex: 60.00%, Ki: 52.00%, Th: 63.60% Armor Resists - EM: 50.00%, Ex: 10.00%, Ki: 25.00%, Th: 45.00% Capacitor (Stable at 58.94%) Fix your Mids. If you do, you'll have around a 2400 DPS tank vs Sansha. (Hint: I can't think of a single good fit that uses shield rechargers in the mids). Single-Shard, *Player Driven*Sandbox. 5 words. That's what makes it special.
Alexa Coates The Scope Gallente Federation 101	Posted - 2012.04.29 03:34:00 - [47] - Quote 1500 dps? I've never had a problem with any ship in that room, even when i first started soloing. Now, pocket 2 with full aggro, either side, is what i have problems with. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships!
Flurk Hellbron Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 93	Posted - 2012.04.29 23:45:00 - [48] - Quote Used to do them with 2 Drakes...............lol Now i do them in two Tengu's.............
Aggressive Nutmeg 218	Posted - 2012.04.30 01:58:00 - [49] - Quote The Drake is pretty safe - actually for all missions. But pretty slow as others have said. Never make eye contact with someone while eating a banana.
RubyPorto Profoundly Disturbed 1465	Posted - 2012.04.30 02:16:00 - [50] - Quote Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: The Drake is pretty safe - actually for all missions. But pretty slow as others have said. The Rattlesnake tanks better and puts out more DPS than a drake. At this point I'm mostly curious as to exactly why OP is failing so miserably at this mission. Single-Shard, *Player Driven*Sandbox. 5 words. That's what makes it special.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 79	Posted - 2012.04.30 08:19:00 - [51] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: lol ran into room 2 WC my friend aggroed the whole room by accident, I picked it up when he left, and dropped to 30% shields when I made it out He's in a Dominix doing all the dps basically [Rattlesnake, proof against fools] 4x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Cruise Missile) 2x Drone Link Augmentor II 2x Large Shield Extender II 3x Shield Recharger II EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II 6x Shield Power Relay II 3x Large Core Defense Field Purger II 5x Ogre II They broke 1600 dps lol [Statistics - Richard Aiel] Effective HP: 93,257 (Eve: 71,199) Tank Ability: 1,602.11 DPS Damage Profile - Sanshas Nation (EM: 59.83%, Ex: 0.00%, Ki: 7.98%, Th: 32.19%) Shield Resists - EM: 64.00%, Ex: 60.00%, Ki: 52.00%, Th: 63.60% Armor Resists - EM: 50.00%, Ex: 10.00%, Ki: 25.00%, Th: 45.00% Capacitor (Stable at 58.94%) Fix your Mids. If you do, you'll have around a 2400 DPS tank vs Sansha. (Hint: I can't think of a single good fit that uses shield rechargers in the mids). Mind you, there is no way you need more than a ~600 DPS tank, but your mids are terrible anyway. Oh, and what kind of DPS are you putting out. Combined and separated into Missile DPS and Drone DPS. How do you tank 1600+ dps with 600 dps tank? I was taking 1600 or so when dumbass pulled pocket two and I got out at 30% shields. they were doing more than I could handle even moving at full speed (as slow as that is) lol and Im more the tank. the guy in the Domi is running with almost no tank and all DPS what would you put in the mids? Best I was looking at 1500 omni Im only doing like 400-500 with drones 503.65 according to EVEHQ As for the fit, Im just running with the one posted a few paged back. RubyPorto wrote: Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: The Drake is pretty safe - actually for all missions. But pretty slow as others have said. The Rattlesnake tanks better and puts out more DPS than a drake. At this point I'm mostly curious as to exactly why OP is failing so miserably at this mission. Disnt know I was anymore given that Ive completed it like 4 times now Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
RubyPorto Profoundly Disturbed 1466	Posted - 2012.04.30 08:29:00 - [52] - Quote Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: How do you tank 1600+ dps with 600 dps tank? I was taking 1600 or so when dumbass pulled pocket two and I got out at 30% shields. they were doing more than I could handle even moving at full speed (as slow as that is) lol and Im more the tank. the guy in the Domi is running with almost no tank and all DPS Im only doing like 400-500 with drones 503.65 according to EVEHQ As for the fit, Im just running with the one posted a few paged back. You tank 1600 dps with a 600 dps tank by learning to trigger the spawns when you're ready for them or knocking the DPS down faster than your tank is breaking. Also, your tank on a passive tank is not broken until you are below peak recharge (25%) shields, so it wasn't 1600 dps incoming. You still need to fix your mids. Rechargers don't belong anywhere, and 2 resist mods is nowhere near enough to patch the EM hole on your ship. If you still want to go for max tank, 2 LSEs and the rest EM and Therm hardeners (Change Hardeners based on opposing faction, ofc). Quote: RubyPorto wrote: Aggressive Nutmeg wrote: The Drake is pretty safe - actually for all missions. But pretty slow as others have said. The Rattlesnake tanks better and puts out more DPS than a drake. At this point I'm mostly curious as to exactly why OP is failing so miserably at this mission. Disnt know I was anymore given that Ive completed it like 4 times now You were getting chased off of a mission in a Rattlesnake with T2 Purger Rigs. While you had DPS support. That's some hardcore fail. Luckily, you've come here where I will offer you decent-good advice as I mock you. Single-Shard, *Player Driven*Sandbox. 5 words. That's what makes it special.
Sigurd Sig Hansen Hedion University Amarr Empire 79	Posted - 2012.04.30 08:39:00 - [53] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: You were getting chased off of a mission in a Rattlesnake with T2 Purger Rigs. While you had DPS support. That's some hardcore fail. Luckily, you've come here where I will offer you decent-good advice as I mock you. I WAS having issue at the start of the thread... before I found a fit to use Ah see I didnt see the T2 rigs in the fit lol yeah I dont have those first off. It wasnt till one time like three days ago when I was being remote repped and I was doing fine there. I took most of my tank off in fact to do more dps The dude in the Dominix is usually DPSSing not remote repping anyways The only time he WAS remote repping me was after we jumped out when he warped into the room and it sent him into stuff that aggroed the whole pocket. Thats not exactly controllable as far as I know. So one he warped in and drew all that aggro he jumped out, leaving me with the whole room. He came back in to DPS and yea we were chased off. [Rattlesnake, proof against fools] 4x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Cruise Missile) 2x Drone Link Augmentor II 2x Large Shield Extender II 3x EM Ward Amplifier II 2x Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II 6x Shield Power Relay II 3x Large Core Defense Field Purger I 5x Ogre I 5x Hammerhead II yah I copy/pasta failed the fit is why :p been looking at it with rigs I dont even have Gotta stop being on the forums at 4 am Mining is the "Deadliest Catch" in this game
Borgone Susa S.H.I.E.L.D Corporation 2	Posted - 2012.04.30 11:20:00 - [54] - Quote dont use the rattlesnake to "actively" do missions, as mentioned there are way better and cheaper options out there. But the Rattlesnake does AFK missioning better than any other ship in the game, and that i how you should use it. [Rattlesnake, Serpentis] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System Caldari Navy Power Diagnostic System Gist X-Type Thermic Dissipation Field Gist X-Type Kinetic Deflection Field Gist X-Type Thermic Dissipation Field Drone Navigation Computer II Drone Navigation Computer II Federation Navy Omnidirectional Tracking Link Core C-Type 100MN MicroWarpdrive Salvager II Salvager II Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rocket Drone Link Augmentor II Large Core Defense Field Purger II Large Core Defense Field Purger II Large Core Defense Field Purger II Wasp II x5 Wasp I x10 Hornet II x5 this will tank all serpentis missions with full room aggro, while the drones kills the rats. It wont be fast, but you dont have to do anything either! watch TV, play on your pvp alt or whatever you feel like, and when a pocket/mission is done, do it again. This works for all rat types, just switch hardeners and drones accordingly. with a few exceptions: Buzz kill and angel extravanza because of drone aggro against sansha, mercenaries and pirate invasion you will need 4 hardeners to be sure not tested in most storylines not tested in the new scarlet mission i dont do faction missions, dont know how it works in them your blood raider fit will need to have passive hardeners and a LSE, because of neuting i have perfect skills for this ship (low skills->more hardeners and maybe cap) and some stuff i might have forgotten the golden rule being never do the mission afk the first time. you have alot of mids and fitting space for tweaking your fit (like massive attack, i like to have a fit with 2 sebos and an extra drone link, because of the distance to the rats) the mwd is rarely used, worlds collide being one of the exceptions. you dont need the small drones for anything, there is just room for them, heavies can kill anything even interceptors and spider drones (the omnilink helps, but isnt needed) the entire fit, with hardeners for all rat types will cost around 2.5b isk. the Gila can almost do the same but for a fraction of the price if money is a problem. Dominix and ishtar can be used for some rats, but the pirate ships are better all around, rattlesnake being the only one i have been able to take on all rats with. so if you are tired of doing the same missions over and over and over again, this is my suggestion. i have tried blitzing in a mach and it is very effective, but boring nonetheless. missioning in eve is more knowing the mission than what ship you are using. its easy to switch your fit, use it! and the obvious, eve survival is your friend
Krixtal Icefluxor Bison - Ammatar Thunder Thundering Herd 642	Posted - 2012.04.30 14:36:00 - [55] - Quote Jack Miton wrote: tengu does it very easily. tho, so does a rattlesnake if youre not a moron... THIS is the attitude I HATE in the game. Even my 5 year Alliance Leader learns something new everyday, still. Moron. There isn't anything left for you to do to Carebears. -áGo, kill them some more. They're like fungus or bacteria, they won't die and they won't stop. All you have to show for years of organized harassment campaigns against them is ... nothing.
RubyPorto Profoundly Disturbed 1468	Posted - 2012.04.30 18:27:00 - [56] - Quote Sigurd Sig Hansen wrote: RubyPorto wrote: You were getting chased off of a mission in a Rattlesnake with T2 Purger Rigs. While you had DPS support. That's some hardcore fail. Luckily, you've come here where I will offer you decent-good advice as I mock you. I WAS having issue at the start of the thread... before I found a fit to use Ah see I didnt see the T2 rigs in the fit lol yeah I dont have those first off. It wasnt till one time like three days ago when I was being remote repped and I was doing fine there. I took most of my tank off in fact to do more dps The dude in the Dominix is usually DPSSing not remote repping anyways The only time he WAS remote repping me was after we jumped out when he warped into the room and it sent him into stuff that aggroed the whole pocket. Thats not exactly controllable as far as I know. So one he warped in and drew all that aggro he jumped out, leaving me with the whole room. He came back in to DPS and yea we were chased off. [Rattlesnake, proof against fools] 4x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Cruise Missile) 2x Drone Link Augmentor II 2x Large Shield Extender II 3x EM Ward Amplifier II 2x Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II 6x Shield Power Relay II 3x Large Core Defense Field Purger I 5x Ogre I 5x Hammerhead II yah I copy/pasta failed the fit is why :p been looking at it with rigs I dont even have Gotta stop being on the forums at 4 am With that tank, you should be able to handle full room aggro for long enough to kill everything. Remember, your tank isn't broken until you're below 25% shields. Anyway, looks like you've got your fitting issues fixed. Single-Shard, *Player Driven*Sandbox. 5 words. That's what makes it special.
Spineker 155	Posted - 2012.05.01 00:15:00 - [57] - Quote Room 2 serp is far more dangerous if you don't pay attention. The webbers can be a pain and use to scram but dont think they do anymore.
Masamune Dekoro School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 100	Posted - 2012.05.01 03:07:00 - [58] - Quote [Rattlesnake, Rattler] Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Shield Power Relay II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Gistum C-Type Kinetic Deflection Amplifier Federation Navy Tracking Link Federation Navy Tracking Link Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile Drone Link Augmentor II Drone Link Augmentor II Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I Large Core Defense Field Purger I Garde II x5 Warden II x5 Hobgoblins x5 Not overtanked for this situation, swap out the Kinetic deflection amplifier when you deal with the serpentis half of the mission. Pretty stress free imo.
RubyPorto Profoundly Disturbed 1468	Posted - 2012.05.01 09:35:00 - [59] - Quote Masamune Dekoro wrote: Not overtanked for this situation, swap out the Kinetic deflection amplifier when you deal with the serpentis half of the mission. Pretty stress free imo. Wardens + the two DLAs + Tracking links make the first pocket easy; Gardes will take care of the rest for you. Other than that, just manage aggro as the eve survival guide directs. Correct, it's probably under-tanked, since he's doing the Angel/Sansha WC. Single-Shard, *Player Driven*Sandbox. 5 words. That's what makes it special.
Masamune Dekoro School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 112	Posted - 2012.05.01 22:29:00 - [60] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Masamune Dekoro wrote: Not overtanked for this situation, swap out the Kinetic deflection amplifier when you deal with the serpentis half of the mission. Pretty stress free imo. Wardens + the two DLAs + Tracking links make the first pocket easy; Gardes will take care of the rest for you. Other than that, just manage aggro as the eve survival guide directs. Correct, it's probably under-tanked, since he's doing the Angel/Sansha WC. Oops... Well, I'm sure he's smart enough to swap out one itty bitty specific hardener.

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