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Mr Discord Viziam	Posted - 2009.02.10 04:37:00 - [31] Originally by: TorsoCollector guess what all macros but has ccp done anything? NO My local police force haven't yet made all crime a thing of the past. FFS they must just sit on thier butts all day doing nothing. SEE WHAT I DID THERE? /cruisecontrol
TorsoCollector	Posted - 2009.02.10 04:41:00 - [32] Originally by: Mr Discord Originally by: TorsoCollector guess what all macros but has ccp done anything? NO My local police force haven't yet made all crime a thing of the past. FFS they must just sit on thier butts all day doing nothing. SEE WHAT I DID THERE? /cruisecontrol worst analogy ever
Faife Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2009.02.10 04:53:00 - [33] btw, i played through the NGE. for EVE to have an NGE the following would need to happen: 1 - all players lose all skills 2 - all skills are replaced by "fly capital", "fly sub capital" and "fly titan" 3 - titans are given out as quest rewards for finishing "fly titan" skill that's what the NGE did. this is a minor tweak. sides, they are redoing sov system, just not for this patch. probably for the best seeing as we're in the middle of the biggest war in eve history and have a whole lot of resources invested in using the POS system. we'd need a year or so to switch to a different one
Xiao Endo Caldari Strix Armaments and Defence	Posted - 2009.02.10 05:23:00 - [34] What the OP means is they are re-doing EVE to look like this: Hell yes. I don't know why he's so negative about it, I peraonlly can't wait. EVE has had a real lack of ponies up until now. The much-needed pony injection is belated but very welcome. Hats off to CCP once again.
NeoTheo Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.10 05:29:00 - [35] Originally by: TorsoCollector In short this is beoming star wars galaxies post NGE. with tech 3 and everything else going the way it is everyone is gonna get to be a jedi and pvp is a pointless exercise with no benifits as a day 1 swg vet, i have to say. "OHH LOOK, YOU JOINED THE ZERO CREDIBILITY CLUB"
Wloire Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.02.10 05:35:00 - [36] Edited by: Wloire on 10/02/2009 05:35:52 Originally by: TorsoCollector Originally by: Mr Discord Originally by: TorsoCollector guess what all macros but has ccp done anything? NO My local police force haven't yet made all crime a thing of the past. FFS they must just sit on thier butts all day doing nothing. SEE WHAT I DID THERE? /cruisecontrol worst analogy ever What, because it proves you're post has zero credibility? Lets see Macro's= Breaking the laws set out by CCP= Criminals, CCP= Enforce the Law= Police. CCP Haven t yet made every macro magically disappear, nor have the police eradicated crime. Yep I believe the analogy fits quite well. Oh and lets no forget the fact that internet anonymity offers internet spaceship criminals many opportunities for dodging the law. I'd say post with your main if you're going to be ******ed but I think that died out a year ago.
Fire Ants The Greater Goon Clockwork Pineapple	Posted - 2009.02.10 05:56:00 - [37] Edited by: Fire Ants on 10/02/2009 05:56:16 To the OP: As I've said before in other threads, if your enjoyment of EVE is so fragile that a bunch of design changes can completely obliterate your appreciation for the game, you're probably better off playing something else because you're not really enjoying yourself in the first place. Also, complaining about too many macro haulers in local is like being at a birthday party and complaining about too many pinatas. ----- Internet Spaceships perfectly strikes your Sense of Humor, wrecking for Serious Business. -----
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.10 05:58:00 - [38] Originally by: CCP Dropbear Also, horses. Neigh! inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
MinmatarCitizen100223041	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:01:00 - [39] Am I reading correctly that older characters will have their attributes modified to be in line with the new creations?
Yeshua Christ	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:05:00 - [40] Originally by: MinmatarCitizen100223041 Am I reading correctly that older characters will have their attributes modified to be in line with the new creations? Lol wut? Idk where you read that but that's not right. Older player have the ability to redistribute a small portion of attribute points once every 6 months. First two times are suppose to be free, after that there is talk of it costing money. (ingame ISK not real money either, all you OMGZ teh are lettin you buy SP!! people need to stfu)
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:05:00 - [41] Edited by: Zeba on 10/02/2009 06:06:06 Originally by: MinmatarCitizen100223041 Am I reading correctly that older characters will have their attributes modified to be in line with the new creations? No, you will have the option to redistibute your attributes if you screwed up on your original creation and want to fix it or just want yo focus on a new skill set. 100% optional. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
eFart	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:05:00 - [42] Originally by: MinmatarCitizen100223041 Am I reading correctly that older characters will have their attributes modified to be in line with the new creations? yes nu character lurn faster old char can juggle atts so no problem dude
TorsoCollector	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:06:00 - [43] Originally by: Yeshua Christ Originally by: MinmatarCitizen100223041 Am I reading correctly that older characters will have their attributes modified to be in line with the new creations? Lol wut? Idk where you read that but that's not right. Older player have the ability to redistribute a small portion of attribute points once every 6 months. First two times are suppose to be free, after that there is talk of it costing money. (ingame ISK not real money either, all you OMGZ teh are lettin you buy SP!! people need to stfu) it is letting you buy SP
NeoTheo Federation of Freedom Fighters Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:11:00 - [44] Originally by: TorsoCollector it is letting you buy SP no, its letting you repsec your atributes once every 6 months. someone ban this troll.
TorsoCollector	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:15:00 - [45] oh woe is me I was an idiot and built my character without thinking. ccp give me a tool to let me fix what everyone else got right because they wernt morons.
Yeshua Christ	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:18:00 - [46] Originally by: TorsoCollector oh woe is me I was an idiot and built my character without thinking. ccp give me a tool to let me fix what everyone else got right because they wernt morons. Haha yes because everyone who chose non-achura is an idiot right? What happened did CCP burn down your bridge?
TorsoCollector	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:20:00 - [47] Originally by: Yeshua Christ Originally by: TorsoCollector oh woe is me I was an idiot and built my character without thinking. ccp give me a tool to let me fix what everyone else got right because they wernt morons. Haha yes because everyone who chose non-achura is an idiot right? What happened did CCP burn down your bridge? and are they still getting to do this too? yes this is nothing short of paying isk to make a skill train faster which is buying sp with isk if you think its anything else your not thinking very hard
Yeshua Christ	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:25:00 - [48] Originally by: TorsoCollector Originally by: Yeshua Christ Originally by: TorsoCollector oh woe is me I was an idiot and built my character without thinking. ccp give me a tool to let me fix what everyone else got right because they wernt morons. Haha yes because everyone who chose non-achura is an idiot right? What happened did CCP burn down your bridge? and are they still getting to do this too? yes this is nothing short of paying isk to make a skill train faster which is buying sp with isk if you think its anything else your not thinking very hard I'm not thinking "hard" eh? You do realize there are limits to how low you can take those attributes? How about you engage your brain before posting such non-sense. Have you even been on the test server and looked at this or are you just tossing a hissy fit on the forums with no experience like 75% of these other dolts whining right now?
Shadowsword Epsilon Lyr Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:34:00 - [49] Originally by: CCP Dropbear I find that scenario highly unlikely. The entry barriers to T3 aren't so much focused on traditional ones such as skills, they operate in a largely new paradigm with its own unique barriers (such as the constant risk of subsystem skill loss). It would also be difficult for a one month old character to afford one. Going off what I personally have observed of the T3 production process (something I have only a passing involvement in, keep in mind) it is not my impression that Tech III vessels will be so easily supplied that their price reaches 1-month-old-character levels of affordability. Speaking of expected prices and so on, about how costly do you expect them to be to build? With some sleepers apparently doing more damage than player gank battleships, while having nice remote tank, EW, and better behaviour, and the worm-hole rules seriously limiting the number and size of ships you can bring along, it looks like bringing back stuff for T3 production is going to be extremely costly. At least of the 0.0 ones... Somewhere around 250M? 500M? 1B? ------------------------------------------
Yeshua Christ	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:36:00 - [50] Edited by: Yeshua Christ on 10/02/2009 06:36:27 Originally by: Shadowsword Originally by: CCP Dropbear I find that scenario highly unlikely. The entry barriers to T3 aren't so much focused on traditional ones such as skills, they operate in a largely new paradigm with its own unique barriers (such as the constant risk of subsystem skill loss). It would also be difficult for a one month old character to afford one. Going off what I personally have observed of the T3 production process (something I have only a passing involvement in, keep in mind) it is not my impression that Tech III vessels will be so easily supplied that their price reaches 1-month-old-character levels of affordability. Speaking of expected prices and so on, about how costly do you expect them to be to build? With some sleepers apparently doing more damage than player gank battleships, while having nice remote tank, EW, and better behaviour, and the worm-hole rules seriously limiting the number and size of ships you can bring along, it looks like bringing back stuff for T3 production is going to be extremely costly. At least of the 0.0 ones... Somewhere around 250M? 500M? 1B? Probably 300-400 mil to start out with atleast, if they hit 1B I'll sh*t a brick.
TorsoCollector	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:54:00 - [51] Originally by: Yeshua Christ Originally by: TorsoCollector Originally by: Yeshua Christ Originally by: TorsoCollector oh woe is me I was an idiot and built my character without thinking. ccp give me a tool to let me fix what everyone else got right because they wernt morons. Haha yes because everyone who chose non-achura is an idiot right? What happened did CCP burn down your bridge? and are they still getting to do this too? yes this is nothing short of paying isk to make a skill train faster which is buying sp with isk if you think its anything else your not thinking very hard I'm not thinking "hard" eh? You do realize there are limits to how low you can take those attributes? How about you engage your brain before posting such non-sense. Have you even been on the test server and looked at this or are you just tossing a hissy fit on the forums with no experience like 75% of these other dolts whining right now? yes I have been on the test server and how much you can change it isn't the issue the fact that you can change it at all is the problem 1 point or 10 it is still buying SP plain and simple
ArmyOfMe 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:55:00 - [52] Originally by: CCP Dropbear [it is not my impression that Tech III vessels will be so easily supplied that their price reaches 1-month-old-character levels of affordability. cough gtc's cough
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:01:00 - [53] Originally by: ArmyOfMe Originally by: CCP Dropbear [it is not my impression that Tech III vessels will be so easily supplied that their price reaches 1-month-old-character levels of affordability. cough gtc's cough coughGTC won't purchase all the sp that will be needed to fit and effectively use those fittingscough You are still going to need the normal about of time invested to get your support skills that far so its kinda like *****ing about a 1 week old being in a battleship. inappropriate signature. ~WeatherMan
panterus29 Gallente	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:06:00 - [54] yes I have been on the test server and how much you can change it isn't the issue the fact that you can change it at all is the problem 1 point or 10 it is still buying SP plain and simple redistribution is not buying SP really its moving SP but if you are worried about buying SP maybe you should petition for the removal of implants from the game
TorsoCollector	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:09:00 - [55] Originally by: panterus29 yes I have been on the test server and how much you can change it isn't the issue the fact that you can change it at all is the problem 1 point or 10 it is still buying SP plain and simple redistribution is not buying SP really its moving SP but if you are worried about buying SP maybe you should petition for the removal of implants from the game gotta fight the battles you have a chance of winning ;)
Ephemeron North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:10:00 - [56] CCP guy is probably right about the t3 stuff but there's some truth in what OP is saying - a lot of people feeling frustrated as CCP gradually but steadily cuts away hardcore parts of the game, and add new softcore game content. They refuse to address difficult problems. They refuse to admit any mistakes in game design changes. The game is being pussified. Not everyone understands this, but it is the subconscious source of irritation
Yeshua Christ	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:25:00 - [57] Edited by: Yeshua Christ on 10/02/2009 07:25:14 Originally by: TorsoCollector Originally by: panterus29 yes I have been on the test server and how much you can change it isn't the issue the fact that you can change it at all is the problem 1 point or 10 it is still buying SP plain and simple redistribution is not buying SP really its moving SP but if you are worried about buying SP maybe you should petition for the removal of implants from the game gotta fight the battles you have a chance of winning ;) Yea it's buying SP alright when you already had the attribute points to begin with. This obviously equates to buying new attribute points to add to your existing ones cause THAT is what buying SP would be.
TorsoCollector	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:27:00 - [58] Originally by: Yeshua Christ Edited by: Yeshua Christ on 10/02/2009 07:25:14 Originally by: TorsoCollector Originally by: panterus29 yes I have been on the test server and how much you can change it isn't the issue the fact that you can change it at all is the problem 1 point or 10 it is still buying SP plain and simple redistribution is not buying SP really its moving SP but if you are worried about buying SP maybe you should petition for the removal of implants from the game gotta fight the battles you have a chance of winning ;) Yea it's buying SP alright when you already had the attribute points to begin with. This obviously equates to buying new attribute points to add to your existing ones cause THAT is what buying SP would be. You ever played the game before idiot? You only use 2 attributes to train a skill so you set those 2 as high as you can then train the skills that use those then change them to whatever 2 are the needed for the next set you want to train.
Yeshua Christ	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:32:00 - [59] Originally by: TorsoCollector Originally by: Yeshua Christ Edited by: Yeshua Christ on 10/02/2009 07:25:14 Originally by: TorsoCollector Originally by: panterus29 yes I have been on the test server and how much you can change it isn't the issue the fact that you can change it at all is the problem 1 point or 10 it is still buying SP plain and simple redistribution is not buying SP really its moving SP but if you are worried about buying SP maybe you should petition for the removal of implants from the game gotta fight the battles you have a chance of winning ;) Yea it's buying SP alright when you already had the attribute points to begin with. This obviously equates to buying new attribute points to add to your existing ones cause THAT is what buying SP would be. You ever played the game before idiot? You only use 2 attributes to train a skill so you set those 2 as high as you can then train the skills that use those then change them to whatever 2 are the needed for the next set you want to train. Yea I have idiot, and it doesn't change the fact that you already had the atrribute points to begin with, just cause you move them to another attribute doesn't mean your buying SP. When you can buy NEW attribute points to add to you existing set then you can *** about it be bought. Til then engage your **ing brain moron.
TorsoCollector	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:37:00 - [60] all that happens is everyones characters become perfect equal skill training machines apeasing butthurt idiots like you and completely takes away the point of even having character attributes

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