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Mistyevening Caldari United Munitions Co	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:44:00 - [1] Would be nice to know whether to use Rails or Blasters vs Serpentis/Angel.. Learned the hard way yesterday while doing mission vs Serpentis with rails
Wayson Minmatar Trans Nebula Inc. FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2009.02.10 06:53:00 - [2] Angels are the devil. In terms of battleships, Commanders, Generals, War Generals, Warlords, Thrones, Malakim, and maybe one other flavor that I've forgotten all love to hug your face. Saints, Nephilim, Cherubim, and Seraphim all orbit at a distance, usually anywhere from 30-45km out.
Mistyevening Caldari United Munitions Co	Posted - 2009.02.10 07:06:00 - [3] Any suggestions how to deal with the out of range rats? I can't nerf my tank for AB.. so should i just stick something like Berserker SW-900 (webber) on the drone hold, and gain the distance this way? Rails seem nice and all but the Blasters have decent range scale if i ever go for Void/Null ammo way.
Sanzorz Amarr Mark Of Chaos	Posted - 2009.02.10 08:07:00 - [4] Either fit so much tracking you're able to hit stuff on the close range or fit a webber. That should take care of it. That way you partly eliminate short range and still got control of long range targets. For missions I'd only use damage drones. What ship are you flying? Megathron got a tracking bonus which should help. Rokh might be a slight problem because it's a shield tanker, but a single Tracking Computer with a tracking script should be possible to place in the fitting.
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated	Posted - 2009.02.10 08:14:00 - [5] Edited by: Blazing Fire on 10/02/2009 08:19:10 well, I pasted a list of orbit distances, but it will take way too many posts. All the data is available in the EVE database dump.
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated	Posted - 2009.02.10 08:15:00 - [6] Edited by: Blazing Fire on 10/02/2009 08:19:19 see above
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated	Posted - 2009.02.10 08:16:00 - [7] Edited by: Blazing Fire on 10/02/2009 08:19:28 see above
Blazing Fire Interstellar Operations Incorporated	Posted - 2009.02.10 08:18:00 - [8] Edited by: Blazing Fire on 10/02/2009 08:19:44 see above sorry for the spam
Mistyevening Caldari United Munitions Co	Posted - 2009.02.10 08:22:00 - [9] Oh my eyes! Anyways, i just started flying Megathron Navy Issue, still suck alot on Gunnery skills (Getting used to the ship on lvl 3 missions.) Maybe i'll just fit in some Hammerhead T2's for now to let them take out the furthest rats, and deal closest ones myself with blasters. I dunno, anymore suggestions? "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty-
Sanzorz Amarr Mark Of Chaos	Posted - 2009.02.10 09:25:00 - [10] Using only hammerheads out to long range targets is gonna take ages if it's battleships. You'd need heavy drones for that.
Jeesa	Posted - 2009.02.10 09:56:00 - [11] NPC Database - everything you need to know about the rats
Steve Celeste Caldari Paxton Industries	Posted - 2009.02.10 10:25:00 - [12] Originally by: Mistyevening I can't nerf my tank for AB.. Originally by: Mistyevening i just started flying Megathron Navy Issue o.0
Mistyevening Caldari United Munitions Co	Posted - 2009.02.10 15:52:00 - [13] Yes, i can't. I'm an ex-Caldari ship flyer.. so i have no experience on Gunnery skills nor armor tanking, these two are like day and night vs shield tanking and missiles. Using crappy ass named stuff on the thing at the moment, and trying to learn what ammo to use on different ranges etc. And about the Navy Mega, i sold all my Caldari ship leftovers Ravens etc to get the bucks for it. "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty-
Pwett Minmatar QUANT Corp. QUANT Hegemony	Posted - 2009.02.10 19:18:00 - [14] sounds like a preemptive move, if you ask me.
Von Kapiche Minmatar	Posted - 2009.02.10 23:24:00 - [15] Web drones, if you have enough drone bay space left. Alternatively T2 mediums with reasonable skills will eventually kill a BS, you might want to go & make some food while they're doing it though.
Mistyevening Caldari United Munitions Co	Posted - 2009.02.11 09:05:00 - [16] Here's my Limited api key and ID if anyone wanna see my gunnery skills hehe User ID: 3646187 API Key: 81DEE56C7E3B4D57AFFC4C2FDFBC711D4080763FACFA4CB3B0ACB189E3440FCA Anyways, i think i'm going to stick 5x rat specific medium T2 drones on hold and one webber even though i don't know yet whether to use Rails or Blasters.. The gunnery skills ain't the only problem as my navigation skills suck also.
Kiran Minmatar EXPLORATIS Delinquent Habits	Posted - 2009.02.11 11:36:00 - [17] Do you tank with shields or amror ? Also if your using a battleship you should realy look at training Large Hybrid weapons to gain the bonus from it. Personaly I use a Battlecruiser for level 3s Hurricane with a passive tank. Only one missions so far can break than tank others I go through them like the wind. Also look at training up either your armour tanking skills or shield skills these will help alot more than ship set up advice here. Looking at your skills from the API it seems to be your trying to run before you can walk to be honest. My advice is to stay with the Battlcruiser till you can fly a level 3 without breaking a sweat, and train up your skills so you can at least fit some T2 mods. But you come here asking for help with a ship set up and with your skill set this is what I can come up with. Now I dont fly Gallente but see what you think. [Megathron Navy Issue, mysti] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II Shield Power Relay II Shield Flux Coil II Shield Flux Coil II Power Diagnostic System II Large Shield Extender II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Shield Recharger II 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M When fighting Angels remeber they do all kinds of damage so you would be better to swap out the two shield hardeners and put in two invulnerability T2 ones instead. The DCII in the low will help boost your resists and hull if it comes to that. This unit is cheap and saved my ships many times. Ammo remeber to use the right ammo for the npc. Remeber I dont fly Gallente so all this might be pish. But if it works then have fun.
Kurull Skullsplitter Minmatar Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation	Posted - 2009.02.11 22:04:00 - [18] Originally by: Jeesa NPC Database - everything you need to know about the rats this is the answer to your question It is a pain to do it but you have to look up each rat your interested in one at a time. Typically I only look up the BS's because the smaller ships never seem to orbit much past 25km. The upside is that once you've done this one time if you write down a note to yourself such as "Gurista/Serpentis WC Warzone Long Distance" "WC Serpentis pocket Short and Long" etc... you can fit your ship accordingly the next time. I've found the eve survival mission data to be fairly reliable in regards to names of rats.
Vampiress Minmatar 20th Legion Axiom Empire	Posted - 2009.02.11 23:48:00 - [19] why do u all keep wasting your bloody time fitting navy mega's like crap lulz ..shield tanked navy mega @_@ just train for a domi ..train to use sentry drones train to use heavy + medium and go in a mission ..sentryes hit 50+ so range isnt a problem and its faster to train they got good dmg and u dont need to worry about guns ..ammo ...optimal range capacitor usage tracking bla bla bla and all that ****
Kirex Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2009.02.12 01:04:00 - [20] Originally by: Kiran [Megathron Navy Issue, mysti] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II Shield Power Relay II Shield Flux Coil II Shield Flux Coil II Power Diagnostic System II Large Shield Extender II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Shield Recharger II 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M rofl
Mistyevening Caldari United Munitions Co	Posted - 2009.02.12 06:07:00 - [21] Wow.. even I wouldn't shield tank that beast.. and i'm not that far from using T2 hardeners + repper so why bother getting killed on lame setup o_O "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty-
Mistyevening Caldari United Munitions Co	Posted - 2009.02.12 06:11:00 - [22] And yes, i put that Navy Mega on hangar to be fitted when i can, and wiped the dust from my good old drake to do those lvl 3 missions while i train up for the gunnery skills for the Mega. "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty-
Coronae Borealis	Posted - 2009.02.12 11:01:00 - [23] Originally by: Kiran Do you tank with shields or amror ? Also if your using a battleship you should realy look at training Large Hybrid weapons to gain the bonus from it. Personaly I use a Battlecruiser for level 3s Hurricane with a passive tank. Only one missions so far can break than tank others I go through them like the wind. Also look at training up either your armour tanking skills or shield skills these will help alot more than ship set up advice here. Looking at your skills from the API it seems to be your trying to run before you can walk to be honest. My advice is to stay with the Battlcruiser till you can fly a level 3 without breaking a sweat, and train up your skills so you can at least fit some T2 mods. But you come here asking for help with a ship set up and with your skill set this is what I can come up with. Now I dont fly Gallente but see what you think. [Megathron Navy Issue, mysti] Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Power Diagnostic System II Damage Control II Shield Power Relay II Shield Flux Coil II Shield Flux Coil II Power Diagnostic System II Large Shield Extender II Ballistic Deflection Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Shield Recharger II 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 'Malkuth' Heavy Missile Launcher I, Thunderbolt Heavy Missile 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M 200mm 'Scout' I Accelerator Cannon, Antimatter Charge M When fighting Angels remeber they do all kinds of damage so you would be better to swap out the two shield hardeners and put in two invulnerability T2 ones instead. The DCII in the low will help boost your resists and hull if it comes to that. This unit is cheap and saved my ships many times. Ammo remeber to use the right ammo for the npc. Remeber I dont fly Gallente so all this might be pish. But if it works then have fun.
StuckNJita	Posted - 2009.02.12 20:05:00 - [25]
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Mistyevening Caldari United Munitions Co	Posted - 2009.02.13 05:40:00 - [27] Rofl "Reality, an illusion created by the lack of alcohol." -Misty-
Wannabehero Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2009.02.15 05:39:00 - [28]

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