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DeFood	Posted - 2004.08.05 17:15:00 - [1] Looking at the skills and counting the number of times each attributes is needed as a primary or secondary, it seems sensible to conclude that you can optimise your time training in all skills if your prioritized your attributes thus: Int, Mem, Pcp, Wil, Cha Caldari Deteis Scientist and Minmatar Sebiestor Tinkerer stand out with 10 and 11 in Intelligence, Gallente Intaki Reborn and Caldari Deteis Merchandiser are worth a look with 11 in Memory. However, after rolling the numbers and adding in the +5 granted during creation :- Caldari Deteis Scientist Int: 12 (10+2) Mem: 9 (7+2) Per: 7 (6+1) Wil: 5 Cha: 6 Minimises the points wasted in will and charisma, perception is average, and Int and Mem are pretty damned awesome. I dont think any other character will be able to train as fast as this one. Even given you might need to retrain for a different races frigate :P
DeFood	Posted - 2004.08.05 17:15:00 - [2] Looking at the skills and counting the number of times each attributes is needed as a primary or secondary, it seems sensible to conclude that you can optimise your time training in all skills if your prioritized your attributes thus: Int, Mem, Pcp, Wil, Cha Caldari Deteis Scientist and Minmatar Sebiestor Tinkerer stand out with 10 and 11 in Intelligence, Gallente Intaki Reborn and Caldari Deteis Merchandiser are worth a look with 11 in Memory. However, after rolling the numbers and adding in the +5 granted during creation :- Caldari Deteis Scientist Int: 12 (10+2) Mem: 9 (7+2) Per: 7 (6+1) Wil: 5 Cha: 6 Minimises the points wasted in will and charisma, perception is average, and Int and Mem are pretty damned awesome. I dont think any other character will be able to train as fast as this one. Even given you might need to retrain for a different races frigate :P
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.05 17:19:00 - [3] ~That assumes you want to train all skills. I think that assumption is faulty since specialisation is the best way to get somewhere fastest. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.05 17:19:00 - [4] ~That assumes you want to train all skills. I think that assumption is faulty since specialisation is the best way to get somewhere fastest. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Alebert Einstein	Posted - 2004.08.05 17:33:00 - [5] Go train some missile skills with that character... You'll get torps in a year or so. :D
Alebert Einstein	Posted - 2004.08.05 17:33:00 - [6] Go train some missile skills with that character... You'll get torps in a year or so. :D
Hematic	Posted - 2004.08.05 19:08:00 - [7] Amarr races are superior because you can end up with a 4 in charisma which is the lowest. Assuming you don't want to be uber agent guy.
Hematic	Posted - 2004.08.05 19:08:00 - [8] Amarr races are superior because you can end up with a 4 in charisma which is the lowest. Assuming you don't want to be uber agent guy.
Voldemort	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:30:00 - [9] unfortunatly these "attributes" dont matter. because we all know that the best attribute to have is good looks, and well, minmatar excell in this area. just look at me. so d*** sexy. "I despise playing Eve. I'm forced to play it by 4 Samurai's, 84 non-league football teams and a threatening slice of celery."
Voldemort	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:30:00 - [10] unfortunatly these "attributes" dont matter. because we all know that the best attribute to have is good looks, and well, minmatar excell in this area. just look at me. so d*** sexy. "I despise playing Eve. I'm forced to play it by 4 Samurai's, 84 non-league football teams and a threatening slice of celery."
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:48:00 - [11] in MMOGs balanced chars = win.
Negotiator	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:48:00 - [12] in MMOGs balanced chars = win.
Nomeshta	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:54:00 - [13] My attribs are balanced \o/ - Caution: Ninja Fingers WTB: Implants
Nomeshta	Posted - 2004.08.05 20:54:00 - [14] My attribs are balanced \o/ - Caution: Ninja Fingers WTB: Implants
DeFood	Posted - 2004.08.05 21:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Negotiator in MMOGs balanced chars = win. Ah. Sarcasm.
DeFood	Posted - 2004.08.05 21:43:00 - [16] Originally by: Negotiator in MMOGs balanced chars = win. Ah. Sarcasm.
Eldar Curunirr	Posted - 2004.08.05 21:54:00 - [17] Originally by: Hematic Amarr races are superior because you can end up with a 4 in charisma which is the lowest. Assuming you don't want to be uber agent guy. Thats after you end up with 10 willpower
Eldar Curunirr	Posted - 2004.08.05 21:54:00 - [18] Originally by: Hematic Amarr races are superior because you can end up with a 4 in charisma which is the lowest. Assuming you don't want to be uber agent guy. Thats after you end up with 10 willpower
Hematic	Posted - 2004.08.06 18:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Eldar Curunirr Originally by: Hematic Amarr races are superior because you can end up with a 4 in charisma which is the lowest. Assuming you don't want to be uber agent guy. Thats after you end up with 10 willpower Willpower does end up being one of the lower stats. But it's irrelevant once you average out all the required skills to properly equip and operate a ship.
Hematic	Posted - 2004.08.06 18:27:00 - [20] Originally by: Eldar Curunirr Originally by: Hematic Amarr races are superior because you can end up with a 4 in charisma which is the lowest. Assuming you don't want to be uber agent guy. Thats after you end up with 10 willpower Willpower does end up being one of the lower stats. But it's irrelevant once you average out all the required skills to properly equip and operate a ship.
Zaque Zundu	Posted - 2004.08.06 20:03:00 - [21] Originally by: Rod Blaine ~That assumes you want to train all skills. I think that assumption is faulty since specialisation is the best way to get somewhere fastest. Well it seems to me that the only worthwhile specilization in eve is fighting. Everything is pointless :(. Since you gain basically nothing with it. Wow I can get 5% more minerals than you while mining, wow I can use 6 research agents who don't give me anything, wow I can make everything in game if someone would just give me the minerals, or wow I can refine better than anyone else. Who cares, you can make more money faster NPC killing than anything else. But anyway, if I was to start again, I'd go with trying to get a similar Int, Mem, Perc a little lower in Willpower and as low as possible in Chr (its real pointless unless you want to be an agent running CEO of a massive coorperation). Zaque Zundu Without chemistry there would be no life. Without research we would know nothing. Without Eve we would all be lost.
Zaque Zundu	Posted - 2004.08.06 20:03:00 - [22] Originally by: Rod Blaine ~That assumes you want to train all skills. I think that assumption is faulty since specialisation is the best way to get somewhere fastest. Well it seems to me that the only worthwhile specilization in eve is fighting. Everything is pointless :(. Since you gain basically nothing with it. Wow I can get 5% more minerals than you while mining, wow I can use 6 research agents who don't give me anything, wow I can make everything in game if someone would just give me the minerals, or wow I can refine better than anyone else. Who cares, you can make more money faster NPC killing than anything else. But anyway, if I was to start again, I'd go with trying to get a similar Int, Mem, Perc a little lower in Willpower and as low as possible in Chr (its real pointless unless you want to be an agent running CEO of a massive coorperation). Zaque Zundu Without chemistry there would be no life. Without research we would know nothing. Without Eve we would all be lost.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.06 20:11:00 - [23] Well, i started pretty wrong, got all attributes pretty much at the same level from start. But starting over isnt really an option after more then a year is it ? _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2004.08.06 20:11:00 - [24] Well, i started pretty wrong, got all attributes pretty much at the same level from start. But starting over isnt really an option after more then a year is it ? _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.

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