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Urho Kaleva
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:02:00 -
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The thing I like to do, is rat in 0.0. That's what I like. And the best fish are out there (1bil blueprint drops etc) I've been doing it for long time with my trusty cloaky Raven(s) but since I get them regularly blown up by gatecamps (learn to play! Never ) I need the ship to be disposable (~100mil)
t1 cloaky Raven is the way to go for me, but I was interested also in other setups/ships people use to do solo 0.0 ratting. Remember, no friends, only red everywhere
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Kebast
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:10:00 -
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IIRC a T2 fit rupture will do 400+ DPS and total fittings and ship are around 20 - 25 mil. It is quick and agile, and can handle most anything that tries to gank you solo.
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Kari Savage
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:13:00 -
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anything with a cloak?
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Tchulen
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:23:00 -
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Have you tried a drake? I've not tried one yet but I've been using a Ferox and so far not had that many problems. Not enough gank for my liking though which is why I thought a drake might be a nice idea. A lot faster on the responses than a raven too (turning, locking etc.)
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Artemis Rose
Sileo In Pacis Mean Coalition
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:27:00 -
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Nano, shield buffer Ishtar w/ Sentries, though thats a bit more pricey than your range.
Any T1 BS really would fit the bill, I'd stick with the Raven if you have missile skills *** Currently Playing: Trolls from Outer Space Current Equipment: VISAcard chain mail, +2 Amulet of Epic Whine, Self Banstick +2 WTB: +666 E-peen killboard stats |
Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: Artemis Rose I'd stick with the Raven if you have missile skills
Have misile skills? This guy IS missile skills. He's the thing that ****s out missile skills that other people who lack missile skills read |
Misaniovent
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:43:00 -
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Retribution! |
Tchulen
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Artemis Rose I'd stick with the Raven if you have missile skills
Have misile skills? This guy IS missile skills. He's the thing that ****s out missile skills that other people who lack missile skills read
That was almost as constructive as this post |
Urho Kaleva
Caldari Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tchulen Have you tried a drake?...)
Yes, Drake is the little bro of a Raven and is very capable on taking down the rats. And maybe speedier to escape the evil gatecamps. Have been using that also sometimes but usually just end up with the Raven.
The thing I like with Raven is the speed it takes down the rat-bs. And the distance. I can always warp to 100km of the belt and deal the damage from there. I don't want to get caught warp scrambled (or even targeted) by the smaller rats when the gang warps in.
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StuckNJita
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:46:00 -
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Well what kinda space/rats are you fighting?
I've always liked the thorax, and AF's would probably do just as well. You won't be dropping rats as fast, but you'll get the job done.
I fly in a PvP fit though. Cheap to fit, damage comes from drones primarily so ammoe isn't a problem.... now that i think about it.. a Vexor would probably be darn near perfect. |
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr Clinical Experiment
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tchulen
Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Originally by: Artemis Rose I'd stick with the Raven if you have missile skills
Have misile skills? This guy IS missile skills. He's the thing that ****s out missile skills that other people who lack missile skills read
That was almost as constructive as this post
It gave perspective |
Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:57:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 13/02/2009 17:03:51
Dunno if you can use any of this stuff but the Pilgrim is the one you want for lulz can't catch me warp whilst cloaked and a solid 450~500dps depending upon the faction your shooting. Bonus points for fitting with recon 4.
[Pilgrim, Sansha, Blood] Co-Processor II Power Diagnostic System II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Photon Scattering Field II 10MN Afterburner II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hammerhead II x7 Vespa EC-600 x5 Warrior II x6
[Pilgrim, Guristas, Serpentis] Co-Processor II Power Diagnostic System II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II 10MN Afterburner II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Antimatter Charge M
Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Hammerhead II x7 Vespa EC-600 x5 Warrior II x6
[Pilgrim, Angels] Co-Processor II Power Diagnostic System II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II
Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Invulnerability Field II 10MN Afterburner II
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Valkyrie II x7 Vespa EC-600 x5 Warrior II x6
Yay! Got meh sig back! ♥ Weatherman |
Burn Mac
Minmatar The Tuskers
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Posted - 2009.02.13 16:59:00 -
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cloaked laser vexor w/ nonfaction crystals :)
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Xianthar
STK Scientific The Initiative.
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Posted - 2009.02.13 17:18:00 -
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domi
3 x heavy nuets / nos 1 x gun, whatever just to aggro rats 1 x RR to fix drones 1 x cloak
2 x cap rechargers 1 x webber 1 x scram 1 x drone nav (if you want to use heavies, use an opti link if you go sentries)
1 x LAR 1 x cap power relay 5 x hardeners of choice
2 x CCC 1 x drone control range rig
lets you pick damage time as with the raven, the LAR will run forever, and i feel sorry for any roaming hacs or recons that things hes going to take you out in a belt, its also very cheap to lose, even with the rigs it should be under 100mil for the total setup not counting the insurance pay out.
cheers
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Helldrek Demonstar
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.02.13 17:27:00 -
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Edited by: Helldrek Demonstar on 13/02/2009 17:27:25 if funds allow, i'd consider investing in an alt to ship ammo out for you and scout for camps :2cents: |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.02.13 17:44:00 -
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insured raven, with mwd and cloak
others try but they don't come close. ishtar is nice for agility, speed, and tank, but not so disposable. |
AnKahn
Caldari The Giant Squid Corp.
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Posted - 2009.02.13 20:59:00 -
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You can probably build a cookie cutter HML Drake for 100 mil easy. Drakes have to be rigged, obviously.
You can farm a system (unless that does not work anymore) just as fast in a Drake as a Raven and you can hit from 60+ so scrambling not an issue.
Roaming gangs are not going to spend the time camping your system like they do if they scan a Raven. Fact.
Rat in an isolated system with a station. If not FOR SURE scout with an alt.
But you know this already, I'm sure.
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Ramson
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Posted - 2009.02.13 22:20:00 -
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One of the cheapest and most efficent ninja ratter tho requires a forward scout like most ships to get into the 0.0 system you want is the Typhoon.
Fitting: -4x torp launchers -2x medium guns (or small guns,doesnt matter that much) -2x heavy nos
-1x MWD -1x webber -1x cap recharger (or another webber) -1x cap booster (use it when the rats have moved abit far and your out of cap,then switch back to stealing cap from BS rats)
-3x rat specific hardeners -2x BCU -1x large armor rep -1x 1600mm plate
-5x heavy drones -10x light drones
Note that all the modules can and should be T1,warning to effectivly rat with this ship you need quite abit of SP
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Vietone
Gallente Mercury Industries
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Posted - 2009.02.13 23:05:00 -
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I use a caracal. Not as fast as a Raven but is still effective in taking out battleships. On the plus side, its so cheap.
High 5 HAMs, Arbalest makes it easier to fit but T2 gives you more damage with T2 missiles.
Mid Medium Shield Extender Afterbooster Target Painter Medium Shield Booster Shield Boost Amp
Low Ballistic Control Units.
My PvP alt can fully T2 fit a caracal and it ends up being less than 20 mil fitted when you shop around, if u buys everything from 0.0 sec its much more costly. Its able to take down cruisers and frigates pretty fast too with the Target painter. Have to be careful about traversal to speed tank cruisers. It can easily speed tank every 0.0 battleship rat I have encountered. |
Urho Kaleva
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Posted - 2009.02.16 12:03:00 -
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Originally by: AnKahn Roaming gangs are not going to spend the time camping your system like they do if they scan a Raven. Fact.
Good point. Haven't thought about it that way but it is true that a Raven in a system attracts a lot of hunters. Drake or even Caracal might be the way to go for a while. Good thing about those is also that with Raven I end up cleaning the system too fast and have to move on to other systems. Which means more trouble.
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ry ry
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Posted - 2009.02.16 12:34:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 16/02/2009 12:35:47
retribution or disposable t2 ratting ruppy..
4x 425s, 2x assault launchers best-named mwd, 2x LSE 3x Gyro, DC, PDS
1x hammers 4x hobs
probably cost about the same all said and done.
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Kambiri Zoltana
Gallente Glauxian Brothers Intrepid Explorers
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Posted - 2009.02.16 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: Kambiri Zoltana on 16/02/2009 13:33:53 Back in the days I used a nano ishtar to take out triple 1.8 mill bs guritas spawns. Together with 2 heavy nos = unlimmeted speed tank.
If you have semi decent drone skills and gunnery skills a dominix might be an alternative choice.
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Soleus Keane
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Posted - 2009.02.21 09:16:00 -
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Originally by: Misaniovent Retribution!
This.
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Vyllana
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Posted - 2009.02.21 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Vyllana on 21/02/2009 10:45:40 Edited by: Vyllana on 21/02/2009 10:44:01 I did this in a harpy for a while. Rack of neutron blaster IIs with void or navy antimatter and lows full of damage mods brings it do a decent level of dps. It's pretty much immune to all the BS and cruiser guns/missiles, being a frig, and has no problem tanking the damage that does hit it.
Would probably take a retri over it though, if only for the inexhaustible ammo.
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xVx dreadnaught
Caldari Xcellence Vs Xtreme
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Posted - 2009.02.21 11:12:00 -
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Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 21/02/2009 11:14:07 [Vexor, disposible ratter] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Magnetic Membrane II Energized Thermic Membrane II
Cap Recharger I Cap Recharger I Cap Recharger I
Prototype Cloaking Device I Medium Nosferatu I Medium Nosferatu I Salvager I Drone Link Augmentor I
Sentry Damage Augmentor I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Is cap stable(nosing an small NPC), agile, does enough DPS to take a BS spawn(taking the riht drones), tanks slot of DPS (fitting with specific passive resistance plates) and doesn't cost an arm and leg.
Best to take meds for cruier and BS and lights for frigs. It means taking a while to take down big BS spawns (but your velocity and lower sig radius should mean lower dmg)
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Lara Gosta
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Posted - 2009.02.21 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Urho Kaleva 1bil blueprint drops etc
What... where... how... in - the - hell can you find those things??? I do rat in 0.0 since i 'was born' and i've never find anything worth more than a couple of millions........
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xVx dreadnaught
Caldari Xcellence Vs Xtreme
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Posted - 2009.02.21 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 21/02/2009 12:29:37
Originally by: Lara Gosta
Originally by: Urho Kaleva 1bil blueprint drops etc
What... where... how... in - the - hell can you find those things??? I do rat in 0.0 since i 'was born' and i've never find anything worth more than a couple of millions........
I think he's solo-ing someones complexes :P obviously the need for a throw away ship cos he's doing it in someone another alliances space withought permission!
The reason for my setup having would be mostuseful for someone working out ofa 0.0 npc station, make and sell rigs for major profits (to the very people you would be stealing npc's from)
Also my Vexor is more efficient! No waste buying ammo (unless you drones get popped) and your cargo bay is empty (for more Booty)
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Lelulie
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2009.02.21 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: xVx dreadnaught Edited by: xVx dreadnaught on 21/02/2009 11:14:07 [Vexor, disposible ratter] Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Energized Magnetic Membrane II Energized Thermic Membrane II
Cap Recharger I Cap Recharger I Cap Recharger I
Prototype Cloaking Device I Medium Nosferatu I Medium Nosferatu I Salvager I Drone Link Augmentor I
Sentry Damage Augmentor I Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5
Is cap stable(nosing an small NPC), agile, does enough DPS to take a BS spawn(taking the riht drones), tanks slot of DPS (fitting with specific passive resistance plates) and doesn't cost an arm and leg.
Best to take meds for cruier and BS and lights for frigs. It means taking a while to take down big BS spawns (but your velocity and lower sig radius should mean lower dmg)
I like how you fit it with some T1 stuff to be cheap and then put 50mil of rigs on it. ------------------------------------ |
xVx dreadnaught
Caldari Xcellence Vs Xtreme
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Posted - 2009.02.21 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Lelulie
I like how you fit it with some T1 stuff to be cheap and then put 50mil of rigs on it.
Rigs are only that expensive because people are dumb! Thats the reason for the salvager, salvage each wreck and make your own rigs, or sell the salvage for isk! The salvaged parts market is way over priced!
Also Edit, Remove: Sentry Damage Augmentor I Add: Salvage tackle I
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.02.21 17:07:00 -
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Could join a corp that's in 00 and avoid the whole gatecamp problem altogether. ----------------- Friends Forever |
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