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Whitehound
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Posted - 2012.04.23 21:06:00 -
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PvP has no cost. PvP is priceless. \o/
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MeBiatch
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
302
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Posted - 2012.04.23 21:08:00 -
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is this not why ccp boosted desies? they are the main pvp ship in eve right?
PLEX FOR PIZZA!
TECH iii MINNING SHIPS! |
JC Anderson
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
598
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Posted - 2012.04.23 21:08:00 -
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Dude, everything used to be a lot more expensive anyhow before drones started dropping alloys.
So it's just reverting back to something closer to what it once was. |
gfldex
485
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Posted - 2012.04.23 21:25:00 -
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Copine Callmeknau wrote:Nobody trying to drive speculation in this thread
How exactly is it speculation to assume mineral prices will go up?
When someone burns down your sandcaste, bring sausages. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
704
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Posted - 2012.04.23 21:29:00 -
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gfldex wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:Nobody trying to drive speculation in this thread How exactly is it speculation to assume mineral prices will go up?
It is speculation to assume and act on the assumption.
In this case though, the OP (according to Copine) is attempting to drive prices higher by posting on the forums causeing people to buy mins at currently inflated prices before the patch under the assumption (likely incorrect one) that they will raise after the patch.
Most likely, they will go down, as with every expansion (effected object prices raise, then drop after release). |
Lord Dravius
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
21
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Posted - 2012.04.23 21:32:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Go on my son.
Gank more hi-sec miners.
After all, your fine with paying more for each gank, so long as those boring afk miners get ganked in the process...
LOL @ High sec miners thinking they're actually a factor. Most of the minerals come from loot until the patch. I hate to break it to you but combat players die a lot more than miners. Ganking has no effect. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
446
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Posted - 2012.04.24 00:04:00 -
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Ocih wrote:No need to launch the troll brigade. Your 800 to 1800 Drake blob will remain in first place as the I-Win button in EVE. Or Tornado fleet or rifter fleet or whatever it is you can bring the most of.
Status Quo is intact.
You know I meant the actual super "rifter" fleet. Go look for the killmail of an abaddon with 23 titans on it.
Ziranda Hakuli wrote:What you alliance folks need to learn is there us a unique symbiotic relationship between miners>Builders>Combat folks. nice circle how things go.
In what i have learn that a good 0.0 alliance will have the following
1> Combat pilots. these guys will run Sanctum/havens and so forth plus the awsome blood letting PVP action.
2> Logistics pilots are the ones that will handle moving things from point A to point B and may call on Combat folks for Defence as needed.
3> Industrial Core. These guys mine and build and yes they also need to make iskies therefore they sell to alliance first.
4> Planetary Interaction. great passive income some corps have you give them your PI for POS fuel.
You figured out thats a good start
More like we have our pilots and then PI alts, who are also now the mining alts. And Indy alts as well. The Indy alts turn on or off depending on how worthwhile it is to build compared to the usual importing. I think some of them have been heating up the ovens recently to bake battleships, not sure though (obviously the cap ship producers are always at work, since we can't import those from Jita).
No salvager alts though, newbies do that admirably :)
Oh yeah, and the usual ... cyno alt, booster alt, scouting alt, supercap holder alt (if you're into that) the usual run of things you might have an alt for.
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
641
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Posted - 2012.04.24 00:29:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:gfldex wrote:Copine Callmeknau wrote:Nobody trying to drive speculation in this thread How exactly is it speculation to assume mineral prices will go up? It is speculation to assume and act on the assumption. In this case though, the OP (according to Copine) is attempting to drive prices higher by posting on the forums causeing people to buy mins at currently inflated prices before the patch under the assumption (likely incorrect one) that they will raise after the patch. Most likely, they will go down, as with every expansion (effected object prices raise, then drop after release).
Quite often, speculations exaggerate an underlying true event.
The true event is indeed here:
- Drone regions nerf
- Drones getting bounties (partially offseting the nerf to incursions) so ISK faucets are not much weakened.
- Removal of meta zero drops. This is very very big as I have seen how stupidly worthless the wrecks become. Looting wrecks will become even less wanted and this could cause a shortage in meta > 0 items as well and further reinforce the nerf.
- Hulkageddon and Burn Jita.
Will the above series of events be enough to not let prices crash?
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Avid Bumhumper
Furian Necromongers
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Posted - 2012.04.24 00:30:00 -
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All they've done is create a situation where A few large Alliances will dominate 0.0.
The only Alliances that will be able to afford SRP are the ones with Tech moons. With Alliances like PL taking in 24 bil a DAY, in moon income, they cannot possibly lose enough ships to to matter.
So, it means that most alliances can't afford to fight for the moons, as they cannot replace the losses as easily.
Which means that once again, CCP has ignored the real issues in the game, and instead went after Drone poo...GG CCP. 
My Tinfoil hat has been sugically implanted, so no,it is not for sale..... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
446
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Posted - 2012.04.24 00:37:00 -
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Avid Bumhumper wrote:All they've done is create a situation where A few large Alliances will dominate 0.0. The only Alliances that will be able to afford SRP are the ones with Tech moons. With Alliances like PL taking in 24 bil a DAY, in moon income, they cannot possibly lose enough ships to to matter. So, it means that most alliances can't afford to fight for the moons, as they cannot replace the losses as easily. Which means that once again, CCP has ignored the real issues in the game, and instead went after Drone poo...GG CCP.
Wait, a sec, I thought goons/the CFC were the bad guy here?
My received wisdom from EVE-O forums~
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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trademeyourmoneys
billionaire boyz club
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Posted - 2012.04.24 00:47:00 -
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i never meant to cause speculation (and im sure day before patch isn't the best time to play with the market really?) it was a serious question coming from a pvper.
Like already posted, the people that i am fighting can change every few months and it will come down to what alliances have stock pilled a shed ton of isk to be able to afford ship replacement programmes but for your average pvper with no rich alliance to fund your pvp hangar are these changes too much, that was what i was asking.
People have been saying for years that most ways to make isk be it npcing/0.1 isk trading/mining are rather boring and after this patch with the prices raising we will have to do these activities for alot longer which means players are infact "grinding" hours for something which can be killed in less than 3 seconds to a alpha fleet of maelstroms. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1417
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Posted - 2012.04.24 00:50:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Ocih wrote:No need to launch the troll brigade. Your 800 to 1800 Drake blob will remain in first place as the I-Win button in EVE. Or Tornado fleet or rifter fleet or whatever it is you can bring the most of.
Status Quo is intact. You know I meant the actual super "rifter" fleet. Go look for the killmail of an abaddon with 23 titans on it. Ziranda Hakuli wrote:What you alliance folks need to learn is there us a unique symbiotic relationship between miners>Builders>Combat folks. nice circle how things go.
In what i have learn that a good 0.0 alliance will have the following
1> Combat pilots. these guys will run Sanctum/havens and so forth plus the awsome blood letting PVP action.
2> Logistics pilots are the ones that will handle moving things from point A to point B and may call on Combat folks for Defence as needed.
3> Industrial Core. These guys mine and build and yes they also need to make iskies therefore they sell to alliance first.
4> Planetary Interaction. great passive income some corps have you give them your PI for POS fuel.
You figured out thats a good start More like we have our pilots and then PI alts, who are also now the mining alts. And Indy alts as well. The Indy alts turn on or off depending on how worthwhile it is to build compared to the usual importing. I think some of them have been heating up the ovens recently to bake battleships, not sure though (obviously the cap ship producers are always at work, since we can't import those from Jita). No salvager alts though, newbies do that admirably :) Oh yeah, and the usual ... cyno alt, booster alt, scouting alt, supercap holder alt (if you're into that) the usual run of things you might have an alt for.
What, no exploration?  |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
446
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Posted - 2012.04.24 01:15:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:More like we have our pilots and then PI alts, who are also now the mining alts. And Indy alts as well. The Indy alts turn on or off depending on how worthwhile it is to build compared to the usual importing. I think some of them have been heating up the ovens recently to bake battleships, not sure though (obviously the cap ship producers are always at work, since we can't import those from Jita).
No salvager alts though, newbies do that admirably :)
Oh yeah, and the usual ... cyno alt, booster alt, scouting alt, supercap holder alt (if you're into that) the usual run of things you might have an alt for. What, no exploration?
Yeah, i forget some, probing alts, command ship alts for fleet boost positions. Market alts too of course. Neutral alts, freighter/ JF alts, ganking alts. Cap and supercap alts. Think people also use remote rep alts.
Take all the tech
Build all the titans
Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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