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Palandri
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.15 02:08:00 -
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Hello ppl in S&M.
Well, what should shine better in a low-sec roam with a BlackBird as wingman?
[Dominix, PvP] Damage Control II N-Type Thermic Hardener I N-Type Kinetic Hardener I N-Type Explosive Hardener I N-Type Adaptive Nano Membrane I Large Armor Repairer II Large Armor Repairer II
Warp Scrambler II 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800 Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption 100MN MicroWarpdrive I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Ogre II x5 Wasp EC-900 x5 Hammerhead II x5 Heavy Armor Maintenance Bot I x3
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[Myrmidon, PVP] Damage Control II Medium Armor Repairer II Medium Armor Repairer II Armor Kinetic Hardener I Armor Explosive Hardener I Armor Thermic Hardener I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 400 Warp Scrambler I 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Ogre II x3 Hobgoblin II x5 Hammerhead II x5
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The stats is:
Dominix DPS: 580 Dominix Tank: 500 Cap lasts 4m without the MWD.
Myrmidon DPS: 418 Myrmidon Tank: 256 Cap lasts 2m without the MWD.
So... in gang with a BlackBird, what should work better?
The use of the light t2 is mainly cause i cant use medium t2, and non-t2 medium dps = t2 light dps. When i get it i'll upgrade to medium t2.
I dont have Hull V to use the t2 hardeners yet (yes, i know, i need it ASAP), but my focus is on my gunnery now.
Dominix Pros: A lot of tank and DPS. And the ECM drones give a escape hole to it. Cons: Nimble and really slow. Myrmidon Pros: More agile and fast. Cons: Less DPS and tank.
Tbh, i dont think the Domi can get stuck with ECM drones AND a Blackbird as wingman... Unless you find a omgblobcamping. Plus with the Dominix you can roam alone without so much fear.
The strategy basically is: warp, close with MWD, orbit in optimal and let the turrets do the work.
Any tips or advices, fell free. And don't blame me, PLEASE.
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kelisin
Gallente Death's Phalanx
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Posted - 2009.02.15 02:12:00 -
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Try a vexor or a few dozen vexor's while you get more SP and get more pvp exp.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2009.02.15 02:22:00 -
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Light neutrons? Yeah... get in a vexor. Or go completely cheap on the myrm, fit something else other than light blasters in the highs and insure 100% without rigging it. Because it will die eventually...
But since you'll be flying with ECM support, you will have more chances to survive in the Myrm as it takes less time to align and can't be bumped quite as easily as the space potato.
Get your blackbird pilot to train cruiser 5 and get into a recon, so people can't see him coming too  ------------
Originally by: Nexus Kinnon I could outgay you even without my pink tutu. >.>
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Cebolinha
Minmatar
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Posted - 2009.02.15 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Cebolinha on 15/02/2009 02:22:37 I'm now in a Vexor, but i managed to probe a lot of bs's, engage it and cant kill it cause the lack of dps...
EDIT: Sorry, its me in the wrong char =D
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kelisin
Gallente Death's Phalanx
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Posted - 2009.02.15 03:11:00 -
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Edited by: kelisin on 15/02/2009 03:13:44 Edited by: kelisin on 15/02/2009 03:11:13 Tbh even a myrm wont be enough to break a mission fit BS but a nuet dommi can and will kill it eventually actually nueting domi can be 100% insured and is fun as hell.
http://www.battleclinic.com/forum/index.php/topic,14730.0/Dominix-Can-you-make-a-better-neut-domi-fit-.html
Good example of a good nuet fit just adjust the gear to your level.
Another tip when probing look at the wrecks and depending on what type of ship they were use a drone that does the opposite damage chances are they are active tanked for that rat.
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Palandri
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.15 03:38:00 -
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Edited by: Palandri on 15/02/2009 03:46:21 A neut domi works better than a Turret Domi?
ps. checked the domi fit... i dont like to rely on AB to close in tbh...
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kelisin
Gallente Death's Phalanx
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Posted - 2009.02.15 03:57:00 -
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Edited by: kelisin on 15/02/2009 04:01:15 Edited by: kelisin on 15/02/2009 03:59:10 You can make a mwd fit it just requires you to drop a plate and perhaps a PG implant not sure but im 100% sure you can fit one by tweaking with the set up.
Yes a nuet domi will work alot better against a active tanked BS you wont be doing the damage needed to kill a active tanked BS without it. Maybe later when you can field more dps you can go for turrets.
Eft shows possible dps without resists you can assume that your targets will be running active hardeners with around 80+ resists.
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Archadam
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.02.15 06:15:00 -
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Hint: Use a neut for wtfpwnsauce vs Myrm. Also, utter win with AC Myrm and neut vs Domi without em. GG. Fly recklessly, not safe :D.
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Biscuit0
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.02.15 06:17:00 -
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[Dominix, drunk ops] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Damage Control I
100MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Prototype ECCM I Gravimetric Sensor Cluster Heavy Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25
Anode Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Large Remote Armor Repair System I
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Warden I x5 Ogre I x5 Warrior I x5
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Archadam
The Scope
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Posted - 2009.02.15 06:58:00 -
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Originally by: Biscuit0 [Dominix, drunk ops] 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I 1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Magnetic Field Stabilizer I Damage Control I
100MN MicroWarpdrive I Warp Disruptor I X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator Prototype ECCM I Gravimetric Sensor Cluster Heavy Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 25
Anode Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Anode Electron Particle Cannon I, Antimatter Charge M Large Remote Armor Repair System I
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Warden I x5 Ogre I x5 Warrior I x5
Seems like a lovely missionary style... 
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AdmiralDovolski
Gallente Eyes of the Admiral
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Posted - 2009.02.16 16:38:00 -
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or you can go for a hull tank, and get the same amount of buffer as a trimark domi for a fraction of the cost
[Dominix, gank] Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Reinforced Bulkheads II Damage Control II
100MN MicroWarpdrive I Stasis Webifier II Warp Disruptor II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 ECCM - Magnetometric II
Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Heavy Unstable Power Fluctuator I Small Energy Neutralizer II Small Energy Neutralizer II
[empty rig slot] [empty rig slot] [empty rig slot]
Ogre II x5 Garde II x5
approx 400 DPS with just drones, and nukes cap really fast. plus you get the bonus of the structure tank!
31k structure at 60% resists ftw!!
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Poast Warrior
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2009.02.16 17:56:00 -
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That... is an awesome fit.
/me orders some RB2's from Jita.
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UMEE
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Posted - 2009.02.16 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: UMEE on 16/02/2009 18:43:19 learn the vexor very very well. also, fit your domi with energy neutralizers. two large will do the job. a smartbomb is always a good idea. tank looks good for a dual rep tank, but id do a large buffer tank and load up some armor rep drones. i.e.:
1600mm 1600mm 1600mm DCUII explo hardener EANM II EANM II
gives you over 80k EHP. i wouldnt invest in the myrm. if ure going the cruiser route, fly the Ishtar instead.
oh and all that being said, if you try to 'roam' in a domi or myrm, you will get blobbed and wtfpwned sooner or later. you dont 'roam' in bc's or BS's. need lighter ships.
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Emmum
Gay Love
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Posted - 2009.02.16 18:40:00 -
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I must say the title sounds like some sort of ancient greek slash fanfiction.
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Palandri
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.16 21:18:00 -
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May someone say something about the Hull-Domi?
In EFT it looks great... 100K EHP is nice, and the cost is good too, but it works? And the need to dock after the fight to repair or change the modules to LAR/LHR is a pain in the ass..
Someone tested it?
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Palandri
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.17 01:38:00 -
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Bumpy!
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Dors Venabily
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Posted - 2009.02.17 01:57:00 -
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Edited by: Dors Venabily on 17/02/2009 01:58:50
Originally by: Palandri May someone say something about the Hull-Domi?
In EFT it looks great... 100K EHP is nice, and the cost is good too, but it works? And the need to dock after the fight to repair or change the modules to LAR/LHR is a pain in the ass..
Someone tested it?
Well if you drop the point you can fit the Large hull rep If not just have it offlined and repair between fights if you have a pair of these i would even drop one of the small neuts for remote hull rep. Not home now looks good on paper.
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Palandri
Gallente
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Posted - 2009.02.17 03:29:00 -
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But the LHR repair 100 points each 30 seconds... so i would took a loooooooong time to repair ur hull... a bet would be carry a pack of LHR and LAR so after a fight that ur armor/hull took a lot of damage, u dock, fit the LHR/LAR and repair ur ship... but i really dunno.
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Vampiress
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2009.02.17 07:28:00 -
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those first 2 setups are really pro NOT ...u first need t2 heavy drones withouth those is pointless to fly domi ...a decent bs skill lvl 4 ofc ...what am i missing ...oh yeah ..no stupid light blasters ..t2 armor hardners and obvs ..2 neuts heavy type ...to make sure that anything lower then a bs doesent get brave all of the suden and scrambles u then calls his gay friends to finish u off ..other then that u good ..and try quad lif fuel mwd ...price with t1 diferes around to 100k
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