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JohnCrayton
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.07 14:03:00 -
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What are the chances to reunite all the drunkards of eve back in IAC ? Lord of JZV |
Zell Shadowcast
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.07 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: JohnCrayton What are the chances to reunite all the drunkards of eve back in IAC ?
Outlook not good
man i wish my name was magic 8ball.
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JS LiamElms
Gallente Quantum Industries RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.07 14:16:00 -
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as a former IAC'er... i can happily say NO!
remembered fondly RIP!
Good times, good friends, good space... move on move forward and never go back. It will never be the same as it once was. And even my time was never what it was for those that orginally helped establish iac. |
Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.04.07 14:23:00 -
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JZV is a nice little constellation ----------
AKA 'Bitter Dog'
Failing at everything he does in EvE since '05 |
evs
Gallente Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.07 15:37:00 -
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i wish
o and jzv :_(
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Muadeeb Ousil
Minmatar Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.07 15:41:00 -
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RIP IAC
Nothing will ever be the same.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.04.07 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 07/04/2009 23:29:46
Adam C linked this to me on IRC yesterday, looks like at least XMX corp is back in IAC :) Who knows maybe Hachou will bring others in..
http://www.krautbreak.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8011
Some people were trying to start it up again recently, but it fell through for whatever reasons, I find it pretty unlikely that I'll be back in unless it's for alliance tournament (almost happened last time)
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airborne kiwi
Amarr Ghosts of Ragnarok True Reign
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Posted - 2009.04.07 23:43:00 -
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never stop drinking
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IonHammer
Minmatar Black Avatar Lost Sheep Domain
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Posted - 2009.04.07 23:51:00 -
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i cant see me doing a conga line in 49-u with goonspawn thats for sure.
Miss the old honorable days well mostly.
If thats your real life i'm very jealous - Petwraith |
Gjs312
Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 07/04/2009 23:29:46
Adam C linked this to me on IRC yesterday, looks like at least XMX corp is back in IAC :) Who knows maybe Hachou will bring others in..
http://www.krautbreak.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8011
Some people were trying to start it up again recently, but it fell through for whatever reasons, I find it pretty unlikely that I'll be back in unless it's for alliance tournament (almost happened last time)
good fit imo
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Toman Torax
Caldari Rage For Order Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.04.08 00:25:00 -
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The good old days of IAC are dead and gone. RIP my friend. IAC will never be what it once was. Any attempt at resurrection will be a pale comparison. Move on.
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ajduB
Minmatar Militaris Industries
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Posted - 2009.04.08 00:34:00 -
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Edited by: ajduB on 08/04/2009 00:34:40 Please No! It wouldn't be the same anyway and it wasn't that good the first time!
Originally by: Jim Lovell
Adjub im Shocked!
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Akiara
Minmatar Legion Infernal Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 01:34:00 -
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i want iac back , im getting bored ....
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Hachou
Minmatar XMX Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.04.08 01:40:00 -
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One of my corp members gave this link to me and I feel myself like I need to answer.
Originally by: JohnCrayton What are the chances to reunite all the drunkards of eve back in IAC ?
In short answer NO. Everything has it's begining and it's end. IAC you talking about is dead. You can't rebuild something not exists. Most of ppl who actually founded this alliance and made it as we remember it quit playing long ago, the rest is spreaded all around the universe.
About presence, XMX is a small corp 30 man which is living alone with no blues around. We like to roam around and giving good fights. And we doing it good. AWe puted XMX back to IAC because we like and respect IAC ticker and it's pleasure to make kills under it. And for sure if someday some corp will want to join us in our fun we will already have a place to put them. But it will be never be "rebuilding of IAC". It's will be something new, probably under the same ticker, probably not, I don't know, atm we just enjoying this game as we like.
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 07/04/2009 23:29:46
Adam C linked this to me on IRC yesterday, looks like at least XMX corp is back in IAC :) Who knows maybe Hachou will bring others in..
http://www.krautbreak.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=8011
If we come to posting links here, just take a look of our recent fun http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13044 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13018 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12198 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12415 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12316 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12900
(remember, 30 man corp nothing more)
Do we like to share such kills with good old IAC ticker, defenitely yes.
Yes, I know, my english still sux. And I am still emo-whispering-in-night.
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DHB FooFighter
Caldari Raype Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 02:21:00 -
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ex firma crew checking in.
<3 IAC -------------------------------------------------
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Easley Thames
Gallente The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.08 03:58:00 -
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Nothing is impossible. IAC had a great thing going and I can say for a fact that key players have discussed flying under a shared banner. B.L.A.C.K. was also an attempt to bring some of the competent IAC corps under a new banner.
However, there are some divides between the good pvp corps who once populated IAC space and I don't know if it could succeed without uniting most of them and moving forward as a more elite organization. We had 50 million horrible carebear pyramid scheme corps that were about a week from being kicked when IAC imploded (actually these two events were somewhat related) and many more were essentially ultra-casual (though undeniably fun to play with).
The casual thing works for npc 0.0 but not sov-holding 0.0 UNLESS you have major support from allies. This was the core issue for IAC in my opinion.
It's a bit sad that IAC didn't follow a path consistent with its capabilities. A middle-size alliance needs deep ties with a major power bloc to survive and hold space these days. IAC had become isolated from the RSF/AAA coalition and only made matters worse by provoking the neighbors.
If you look at a group like UNL that has at one point controlled space in multiple regions with a fleet capability of at most 100 pilots in pre-planned prime-time ops it's plain to see that your friends are everything in this game.
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Himo Amasacia
Minmatar Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.08 04:04:00 -
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Originally by: JS LiamElms as a former IAC'er... i can happily say NO!
remembered fondly RIP!
Good times, good friends, good space... move on move forward and never go back. It will never be the same as it once was. And even my time was never what it was for those that orginally helped establish iac.
This. I will always remember with fondness my time in IAC and the friends I made there. But the past is dead and gone, and it would never be the same. remember the good times, and move forward gents.
"Constant practice devoted to one subject often outdoes both intelligence and skill." -Cicero |
Kruselloyne
Amarr International House of PWNCakes Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.04.08 04:40:00 -
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While IPWN joined late in IAC during its final year or so, it was the most fun I've had. Everything else is just shades of grey to that time in Eve for me. :)
o/ Hachou/XMX (funny IAC is red to Prov now eh?) o/ Mavs.. Avi will "doublestuff you like no tomorrow." o/ Genco rox o/ everyone else who calls in from the really old school IAC b4 my time :)
--- MadMerlin
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Kulmid
Minmatar Asshats and Alcoholics Turbo.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Hachou
If we come to posting links here, just take a look of our recent fun http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13044 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13018 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12198 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12415 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12316 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12900
I don't see any fights worth bragging about.
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Admiral Frools
Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.08 05:24:00 -
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Prohibition 1 while priory were still living out of litom was some fun ****
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Number Thirteen
Caldari Infinity Enterprises Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.08 05:24:00 -
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IAC... Those were good times :)
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shanda captison
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2009.04.08 06:25:00 -
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I can confirm XMX bring teh gfs. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels -Sahwoolo Etoophie |
128th ABC123
Caldari Eve Liberation Force Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.08 07:07:00 -
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Hi Hachou, do my regards to the rest of your corp members. Our time in Catch and the few systems we got assigned to start Liberty alliance in are fond memories.
The day IAC dropped from the map was a day that Eve became a bit less colorfull imho.
Ive recently stepped down as CEO of ELF and intend to visit old friends across Eve with some of my toons, so many fun people, but so little time.. .Hope to be in fleet with you all soon. 07
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128th ABC123
Caldari Eve Liberation Force Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.08 07:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kulmid
Originally by: Hachou
If we come to posting links here, just take a look of our recent fun http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13044 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13018 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12198 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12415 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12316 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12900
I don't see any fights worth bragging about.
Your corpname about says it...
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Darkmist Starpain
Minmatar Divine Power. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Admiral Frools Prohibition 1 while priory were still living out of litom was some fun ****
^ That. Best EVE year ever. The next one after that wasn't too bad either. Usually it was the times from fall to winter that were good for IAC in my opinion.
Me miss IAC vewy vewy much though. ------------------------ Wildly Inappropriately Horny
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Ice Croft
Minmatar XMX Corp Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2009.04.08 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: Ice Croft on 08/04/2009 08:45:41
Originally by: Hachou Yes, I know, my english still sux. And I am still emo-whispering-in-night.
Confirmed, he's still an emo, lol. And as it for me, his FCing became damn tough and ironic, ehehe. "Let's wait, they gonna perform something stupid." (c)
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Two Knives
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.08 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: 128th ABC123
Originally by: Kulmid
Originally by: Hachou
If we come to posting links here, just take a look of our recent fun http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13044 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13018 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12198 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12415 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12316 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12900
I don't see any fights worth bragging about.
Your corpname about says it...
128th you were terrible in pure blind but that was an amazing burn and someone should quote it.
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128th ABC123
Caldari Eve Liberation Force Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2009.04.08 11:08:00 -
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Originally by: Two Knives
Originally by: 128th ABC123
Originally by: Kulmid
Originally by: Hachou
If we come to posting links here, just take a look of our recent fun http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13044 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13018 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12198 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12415 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12316 http://kb.xmx-corp.ru/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12900
I don't see any fights worth bragging about.
Your corpname about says it...
128th you were terrible in pure blind but that was an amazing burn and someone should quote it.
Cloaking Sabre if memory serves me well?
Yes, yes, fun times... actually had more daily pvp then anywhere else in Eve at that time, lots of small gang combat, was fun, probably reason why you lot were down there.
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Yyrkoon
Amarr Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.08 12:33:00 -
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Sure
All things are possible. Transfer ownership of the alliance back to the founding members and take it from there
Yyrkoon
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Shikome Alluin
Gallente Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.08 12:37:00 -
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Edited by: Shikome Alluin on 08/04/2009 12:39:19
Yea, I can only chime in, IAC was golden! So many laid back people under 1 roof, so many fun fights! And the drunkOPs- best OPs! ****, I even miss Tyrrax¦s shenanigans now and then :P
o/ fly drunk
o/ Aloha mr Hand |
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theghosthunter
Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.08 12:47:00 -
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Ex -KSC- member here, it was a blast in IAC, had alot of fun times
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Thundirr
Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 13:32:00 -
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<3 IAC
So many great memories from all the years. Prohibition 1 and 2.. yeah cant really get better then those times.
DKOD, Firma, QI, Genco, INE, TMK, XMX... and so many others.. o/
Also to be fair, to the old Enemies, FIX, MC, ISS o/
The magic that made IAC what it was is still in our hearts and minds and it seems like every alliance we join, or region we visit, are all sad reminders of IAC in all her glory.
IAC was lost in to the mists of EVE, strewn along a stony bolder filled path. I have put IAC to rest, burried in my memories and in my heart. I hope there is a future for the old Drunken Cat, though it will be a different animal with a different soul and I will no longer call her IAC.
To all the people of IAC, o/
Thundirr out.
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Zaller
Caldari Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.04.08 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: Shikome Alluin Edited by: Shikome Alluin on 08/04/2009 12:39:19
Yea, I can only chime in, IAC was golden! So many laid back people under 1 roof, so many fun fights! And the drunkOPs- best OPs! ****, I even miss Tyrrax¦s shenanigans now and then :P
o/ fly drunk
I was never in iac but this has been my experience to. I started playing eve around the time of the first assault on qy6 and my corp was basing out of FAT-/25s and we had ratting rights there for some reason. Being a clueless newbie in a rifter and not knowing the **** to do, I would constantly do silly things like loot/salvage other peoples wrecks and break chains. Well one day I was going about my newbness, salvaging some dudes wreck... while that dude was still in the belt, when I noticed an iac guy say "ZALLER NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" in local. Apparently I was trying to salvage his hauler spawn wreck which was some what of a nono. Not knowing what I was doing wrong, the iac guys were very polite in taking the time to carefully explain everything to me. From that point on, the iac guys would always answer my newb questions in local and give me advice. The people in IAC I talked to were really laid back and were here to enjoy the game/have a good time. They truly were a kick ass group of people
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Elaine Threepwood
Minmatar Mercurialis Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 14:10:00 -
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I say hello to all you former IAC'ers as the former Wanux (that char is sold btw). I bring you:
IAC Shenanigans The love story between two enemies, IAC and FIX. IAC go to camp a station and mess some services up, and end up conga-line dancing in their ships with FIX. Good god FIX was such a great adversary. <3 FIX and IAC
IAC at Fanfest 2007 INE corp's video of IAC at FanFest 2007. Such a great time. Sorry for falling asleep at the PizzaHut (jetlag and beer = Wanux snooze). Also featured are SUAS and Serenity Steele (<3 maps).
Great memories. Great people. Time to rest. No new IAC. Please. |
Avernus
Gallente Imperium Technologies Sangre Azul
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Posted - 2009.04.08 15:21:00 -
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If there is going to be another IAC - FIX love in, someone from FIX needs to show up...
o/
Definately do miss fighting you guys. Would sign up for a rematch if we could; 1. find a place to do it 2. have nobody else try to jump in on our fun
...only thing we lack is two alliances, stations, and pilots.
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Pi Patel
Caldari International House of PWNCakes Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.04.08 17:53:00 -
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IPWN loved being part of IAC. It was pvp heaven, we learned a great deal, really enjoyed conversing and flying with our alliance mates and made decent isk to afford sparkly new ships. It was an oasis in eve for people who didn't want to become part of the Wal-Mart's of the game (ie. power blocs). We've bounced around a little bit trying to recapture that IAC essence to no avail. Who knows, maybe I'll start another alliance up and take what I learned from being in IAC and leading BLACK and try to get it right this time. IAC 07
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BlackHorizon
Caldari Raype Inc.
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Posted - 2009.04.08 19:12:00 -
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Edited by: BlackHorizon on 08/04/2009 19:13:00 2005-06 IAC != 2007-08 IAC
The latter was comparatively trashy compared to the former and did not share the same player base.
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Anton Marx
Caldari Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.04.09 04:24:00 -
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Hoping on the IAC circle-jerking fest!
<3 u guys, had awesum times
will never forget the FAT- resistance and the late-night THC freighter runs from JZV to FAT- area trying to smuggle in more towers to counter-spam... ohh so innocent, so innocent times :D
DESTROYED
Against ALL Authorities ?????! (c) Ivan Wise |
Rochel Hakiri
Caldari hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2009.04.09 11:52:00 -
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Old promo checking in
<3 the time with you all
o7
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Anuqet
Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.04.09 12:25:00 -
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Edited by: Anuqet on 09/04/2009 12:25:09 IAC went to **** when we first built the G-7 staion, everything was much better when we lived out of posses in RNF fighting CC, CDC and CCC <3
Also, kicking Tyrrax was the biggest mistake ever made by IAC, sure he stole some ****, and jim lovells mothership , but he was one of the few competent people in charge.
Much love to Genco and Dline <3
EDIT; **** = ****
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gnshadowninja
Caldari Baptism oF Fire Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2009.04.09 13:18:00 -
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Long live IAC,
Most of the corperations from IAC were so close (sounds gay but its the best corperation you can have). For instance all the members from BOF are still here, all the IPWN members are still there, Genco is still there i believe...
IAC taught us alot and i wish it could be remade but after all the problems in B.L.A.C.K, it will never happen...
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CHONGUS
Minmatar V I R I I Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.09 19:51:00 -
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MMMmmmmm... IAC and the JZV constellation. What a great place and a great time. Had loads of fun out in RNF. I vote for IAC to return.
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RobertoLuongo
Gallente The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.10 01:03:00 -
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Aye, many Mavs still yearn for the IAC times (though our stay in IAC was only during it's final months).
Many fond memories indeed. I only wish I could have been there during the glory years (NRDS wtf).
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Toman Torax
Caldari Rage For Order Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2009.04.10 01:38:00 -
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CHONGUS checking in... This thread has now come full circle
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Avicenna Sarfaraz
Caldari The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.10 02:30:00 -
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There definitely is enough interest. The biggest question is when the majority of these "Grass is greener" types to put up or shut up.
B.L.A.C.K was an abomination and needed to be put down - it tried to be IAC but without the self-respect to call itself so. I kept MVN out of it for concerns which later turned out to be true.
IAC can and will come back - if the principal power behind IAC - the people - show up to stand by their alliance when the time comes to really push it back into the limelight where it belongs, making headlines and losing imperial issue apocs because WE CAN.
There was some effort between a few corps to resurrect IAC however final terms could not be completely agreed upon so for now the idea was shelved. However just because something has been shelved for now does not mean that the topic is shelved for good.
-MVN- The Maverick Navy
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Thundirr
Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.10 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Toman Torax CHONGUS checking in... This thread has now come full circle
I saw CHONGUS and took a nice big double take.. wow talk about a face from the past.
I think theres a post somewhere about his months and months of cloaking in RNF.. wow.. (A cry in the night.. then Silence.. We all realized Chongus had just taken another Victim..) something like that.
o/ CHONGUS!
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Pi Patel
Caldari International House of PWNCakes Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2009.04.10 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Avicenna Sarfaraz Edited by: Avicenna Sarfaraz on 10/04/2009 02:40:22
B.L.A.C.K was an abomination and needed to be put down - it tried to be IAC but without the self-respect to call itself so. I kept MVN out of it for concerns which later turned out to be true.
BLACK did not try to be IAC or think itself as a new IAC. There were aspects we tried to incorporate, but it was never the intent to make BLACK the new flavour of IAC (although I threw that out there to keep you interested We all know what a fantastic super leader you are Avi. Most of Eve knows you own killer poodles and are highly skilled in karate, but thats for another time on another thread.
P.S. Heya Thundirr---you were awol quite often by the time IPWN got into IAC, but the few times you did fc we had a great time and you always did a fantastic job.
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Easley Thames
Gallente The Maverick Navy PuPPet MasTers
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Posted - 2009.04.10 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: gnshadowninja Long live IAC,
Most of the corperations from IAC were so close (sounds gay but its the best corperation you can have). For instance all the members from BOF are still here, all the IPWN members are still there, Genco is still there i believe...
IAC taught us alot and i wish it could be remade but after all the problems in B.L.A.C.K, it will never happen...
Well it's unfortunate but we're fairly close to each other at the moment in Fountain :P
Originally by: Pi Patel
BLACK did not try to be IAC or think itself as a new IAC.
I think all the serious players were fed up with the large number of weak, incompetent or uber-casual corps in IAC. Never mind the many questionable top-level decisions (though I think with better timing the final reorganization idea would have benefited IAC).
Many people had the same idea, reform with less baggage and less dead weight. In our earliest discussions there were many with plans to band together the 5 (depending on how you value ex-IAC corps maybe more or less) quality corps and move forward. The ultimate plan for BLACK was just never sound enough for most of our pilots and they voted heavily to fly elsewhere despite a shared feeling of nostalgia.
Originally by: Pi Patel P.S. Heya Thundirr---you were awol quite often by the time IPWN got into IAC, but the few times you did fc we had a great time and you always did a fantastic job.
Seconding this :)
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VileLust
Minmatar Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.10 19:09:00 -
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<3 for IAC =]
Lots of us are NC, fair few are Atlas. Lot of the more carebear type are with CVA. If any of you are still out there =] evemail me, I've got a pretty long list of where many of the IAC types ended up.
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JohnCrayton
Gallente Federation of Freedom Fighters Aggression.
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Posted - 2009.04.11 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: JohnCrayton What are the chances to reunite all the drunkards of eve back in IAC ?
The initial question thread I started while I was back to the space near JZV and saw some of my old ally friends . Its been very fruitfull reply's and very constructive . Hail to u my old alliance president's , fc's and drunk soldiers . I salute u all and have a safe fly in eve . In one year I will ask the same question and I will check your reply's , untill then I declare this thread close . Lord of JZV |
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Mad Ilya
Minmatar eXceed Inc. Minor Threat.
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Posted - 2009.04.11 12:40:00 -
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Originally by: VileLust <3 for IAC =]
Lots of us are NC, fair few are Atlas. Lot of the more carebear type are with CVA. If any of you are still out there =] evemail me, I've got a pretty long list of where many of the IAC types ended up.
Aren't most of them in this thread
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Anton Marx
Caldari Warhamsters Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.04.11 12:47:00 -
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Originally by: VileLust <3 for IAC =]
Lots of us are NC, fair few are Atlas. Lot of the more carebear type are with CVA. If any of you are still out there =] evemail me, I've got a pretty long list of where many of the IAC types ended up.
Quite a few of us ended up in AAA too - Warhamsters, DKOD as entire corporations and individual people from various IAC corporations (most of them also ending up in WARH, DKOD and some RAT.)
Other than that, it's all over the universe, yes.
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Jukhta Mein
Minmatar Thunderbolts
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Posted - 2009.04.12 17:24:00 -
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Why did IAC disband?
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.04.12 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 13/04/2009 00:01:40
Originally by: Jukhta Mein Why did IAC disband?
because i stole a couple of wyverns from guys in my corp and a month later got caught and booted out of the alliance when morris falter revealed the truth on CAOD
i was dictator, strategist, figurehead and public face of the alliance, and basically all of its diplomatic ties and relationships with allies were through me, so pretty much all of those were damaged or eliminated by my not being around anymore..
the people who took over after my departure had a rather nasty mess to deal with, what with our closest and much stronger neighbor -A- resetting standings, various corps disbanding or leaving and attempts at cutting fat backfiring, some of them made some mistakes with diplomacy involving Kraftwerk and goons which combined with goons not really having a reason to keep IAC blue without me in there meant standings were reset, not good for IAC's morale..
then iac president Hachou annoyed Evil Thug on russian forums which resulted in -A- deciding to wipe out the struggling remnants, and under increased pressure the alliance quickly folded without putting up much of a fight
another mistake they made was neglecting building a closer relationship with CVA and the providence block, but even with their full support and proper coordination iac would not have been able to fight -A- off in the condition it was in towards the end
i think we were at about 2500 members and in pretty good shape when i got booted (which was the right move, all things considered), lost about 1000 members almost immediately, and then gradually shrank over the few months it had remaining..
so basically it's all morris falter's fault for outing me !
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Thundirr
Amarr Mercurialis Inc. Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2009.04.13 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: Thundirr on 13/04/2009 02:14:51
Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 13/04/2009 00:01:40
Originally by: Jukhta Mein Why did IAC disband?
because i stole a couple of wyverns from guys in my corp and a month later got caught and booted out of the alliance when morris falter revealed the truth on CAOD
i was dictator, strategist, figurehead and public face of the alliance, and basically all of its diplomatic ties and relationships with allies were through me, so pretty much all of those were damaged or eliminated by my not being around anymore..
the people who took over after my departure had a rather nasty mess to deal with, what with our closest and much stronger neighbor -A- resetting standings, various corps disbanding or leaving and attempts at cutting fat backfiring, some of them made some mistakes with diplomacy involving Kraftwerk and goons which combined with goons not really having a reason to keep IAC blue without me in there meant standings were reset, not good for IAC's morale..
then iac president Hachou annoyed Evil Thug on russian forums which resulted in -A- deciding to wipe out the struggling remnants, and under increased pressure the alliance quickly folded without putting up much of a fight
another mistake they made was neglecting building a closer relationship with CVA and the providence block, but even with their full support and proper coordination iac would not have been able to fight -A- off in the condition it was in towards the end
i think we were at about 2500 members and in pretty good shape when i got booted (which was the right move, all things considered), lost about 1000 members almost immediately, and then gradually shrank over the few months it had remaining..
so basically it's all morris falter's fault for outing me !
TT dont go and take all the credit.
The IAC 'Culture' went through some heavy changes when the first real 'split' happened. When DKOD and Firma left (those that know IAC understand that Firma and DKOD were around from the start) that took a big part of the culture away from IAC. There was a long campaign by Outbreak against IAC and that also did a number on morale.
Id actually suggest that IAC as a culture started to fragment after Prohibition II.
When the war with Outbreak concluded the war vs bob/fix/MC/AXE/whoever else started. IAC as a whole changed, the culture changed, and the reasons for playing changed.
We were forced to play EVE. The Leadership was forced to keep the alliance fighting for its life for months on end. Decisions were made, corp culture was set, and a more 'left wing' PVP attitude developed. We started Recruiting heavily to fill the ranks.. and still we PVPd.
After the combined IAAC forces held the BoB war at FAT for almost a month, IAC withdrew to JZV to regroup, rebuild and die.
I dont think any one event after FAT really did it. Sure TT getting booted didnt help, but that wasnt why it happened. I think something happened to the Soul of IAC in the fires and combat in FAT.
That Will and Desire to survive no matter the odds.. the Spirit of the drunken warrior who knows no end because he always has his brother.. It was the loss of the bond between our members and the loss of.. identity...
It is possible to have a 3000 man alliance that is dead... They might be winning and having fun.. but the alliance is dead...
So.. TT dont go giving yourself credit for everything, you were there, and you just like the rest of us, helped push IAC further towards the end.. But I think it was EVE herself that did the old Cat in. EVE is a cruel mistress and she will swallow you alive if you give her a chance.
Thundirr out.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2009.04.13 04:12:00 -
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All that crap about spirit of IAC and whatnot is just that, crap. Neither alliance nor culture ever stopped changing so you can't say "the real IAC" applies to any particular point in time, fact is right before I got caught the alliance had been rapidly and drastically improving (f.i. with the pos gunner corp and proper cyno jammer setups being standardized) was successfully fielding large gangs and coordinating well with allies (f.i. when Tortuga lost 200 bs fighting us and CVA in 49-u)
-A- reset was impending but we were getting closer every day to being ready for it (probly woulda lost anyway, but hey who knows)
as for FIRMA/DKOD leaving being some kind of beginning of end, they'd been destroying morale with their constant whining and naysaying for months before and when they finally did leave it was a huge improvement as far as I'm concerned :P
I'm certainly not taking credit for everything, but IAC's death as an alliance was most definitely started when I got booted, obviously Apple boy, Hachou, Eaiaden and promu played their parts during the decay
PS; IAC never had 3000 members, but it was nowhere near death at 2500 when I was caught. (you're right about alliance numbers being meaningless sometimes tho, look how fast KOS went from 4200 to zero)
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darkst0rm
Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.04.14 01:58:00 -
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<3 IAC
still drinking and having fun. ;D btw would be nice of the current corps in IAC to hand control of it back to genco.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest
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Posted - 2009.05.13 21:43:00 -
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Just found thread trying to find old drunk swarm videos.
IAC was a lot of fun back in the day.
Team Minmatar
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VileLust
Minmatar Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.13 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: VileLust on 13/05/2009 22:11:38
Originally by: darkst0rm Edited by: darkst0rm on 14/04/2009 02:36:22 <3 IAC
still drinking and having fun. ;D btw would be nice of the current corps in IAC to hand control of it back to genco.
Some IAC photos of my days are in the EXIT album. http://exit-eve.com/phpAlbum/main.php?cmd=album
so agree :p I dont like Genco at all ^_^ but the old girl should be in the hands of the people that birthed her. Or give it back to me so I can get Humble in, and we can remake the alliance. Vile and Humble combine.. TO FORM VOLTRON
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HellsRazor
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2009.05.13 22:28:00 -
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WHO?
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Anuqet
Minmatar The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.05.13 23:05:00 -
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Edited by: Anuqet on 13/05/2009 23:04:47
Originally by: Thundirr
IAC as a whole changed, the culture changed, and the reasons for playing changed.
Decisions were made, corp culture was set, and a more 'left wing' PVP attitude developed. We started Recruiting heavily to fill the ranks.. and still we PVPd.
I think something happened to the Soul of IAC in the fires and combat in FAT.
That Will and Desire to survive no matter the odds.. the Spirit of the drunken warrior who knows no end because he always has his brother.. It was the loss of the bond between our members and the loss of.. identity...
So.. TT dont go giving yourself credit for everything, you were there, and you just like the rest of us, helped push IAC further towards the end.. But I think it was EVE herself that did the old Cat in. EVE is a cruel mistress and she will swallow you alive if you give her a chance.
Thundirr out.
And this is why I will never forget Thundirr, the biggest ret4rd in all of IAC.
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Invelious
Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies
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Posted - 2009.05.13 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Invelious on 13/05/2009 23:17:17 RobertoLuongon and easley thames both showing in The Maverick Navy, but one in puppet masters and one in atlas, how is this possible?
I miss V2-VC2, miss you IAC.
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humbleThC
Gallente The humble Crew Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.05.14 00:31:00 -
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I'm in...
Long live IAC!
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Treyah
Minmatar The humble Crew Dara Cothrom
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Posted - 2009.05.14 01:07:00 -
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Long live IAC <3
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Skebet
Minmatar Evolution KenZoku
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Posted - 2009.05.14 02:07:00 -
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Had a great time in IAC. Constant action.
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Cartel
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Posted - 2009.05.14 17:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zell Shadowcast Outlook not good
Yeah, but Microshaft keeps shipping it with the OS anyway. ___________________________________________ Haruhiist since December 2008
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Smalum
Gallente Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.05.15 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk as for FIRMA/DKOD leaving being some kind of beginning of end, they'd been destroying morale with their constant whining and naysaying for months before and when they finally did leave it was a huge improvement as far as I'm concerned :P
sure, we might have whined a bit, if that's what want to call the complaints about carebears dying left and right to roaming gangs while we struggled to get a gang together to counter it? or maybe you're refering to the suggestions i made on an executive level about how we could increase pvp performance by actually putting some expectations on the countless corps that you let in? the only naysayings i remember was your respons which ran along the lines of how "IAC is a carebear alliance, we can never change". i don't want to comment much on what happend in iac after we left, but it's funny how you salute yourself with excellent improvements like standardization, two years after we suggested it.
you might have kept iac on the map by performaning a few diplomatic stunts now and then, i can give you that, but imo that doesn't automaticly make an alliance successfull, or fun to be in.
we tried to have some fun in iac, but it became obvious that the kind of fun we were looking for had no future in iac. the only way i remember you participated to any fun-factor was by bringing some odd expensive ship into a fight and failing horribly (and yeah, that's an awesome way of improving morale btw).
apart from that, we had alot of good times in iac, and most of the ppl we flew with (the ones that wheren't busy ratting and mining all the time) was a great bunch, so sksl to that :)
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Del369
Caldari Insidious Existence RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.15 08:14:00 -
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ex DLINE checking in, ah the memories, and yes constant action, just need Demo and Jogyn to say hi now and all will be well with the world.
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SSDD24
Gallente THE MuPPeT FaCTOrY Cult of War
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Posted - 2009.05.15 09:27:00 -
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IAC = good memories... good friends. Nice to hear peeps still remember it thou i dont think it will ever come back...
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kaahooters
Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:33:00 -
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Edited by: kaahooters on 15/05/2009 10:34:44
Originally by: Jukhta Mein Why did IAC disband?
cos vile and tt couldnt play nice.
i was there, i was drunk....erm... i died lots and was a burden mostly, wheres jimmy lovelle in an iac thread?
also, emo foo (captian brannagain (stop dieing you basterds) ) was awsome
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Krissi ivg
Gallente Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.15 10:48:00 -
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my 0.0 birthplace <3
Was, am and will be drunk.
but times have changed.
to those I flew with and had great times o7
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Sworn Absent
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.15 12:07:00 -
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lets get LV back together
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Sworn Absent
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2009.05.15 12:07:00 -
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or just re-name KenGoku to Lotka Volterra
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Lardarz B'stard
Amarr Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.05.16 10:02:00 -
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IAC was quite good fun till it got overrun by f***wits.
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Mike Yagon
Minmatar The Nest
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Posted - 2009.05.16 10:16:00 -
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Edited by: Mike Yagon on 16/05/2009 10:17:06 Posting in an IAC thread. Loved my time there. :)
*edit* P.S. Don't trade Tyrrax any drones, he does nasty things to them!
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In Carebear We Trust
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Airmaker
Gallente Infinity Enterprises Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.16 22:00:00 -
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Just seeing the names in this thread brings back the best memories ... except the end of Umbra oc. An emotional rollercoster hiding in a game of internet spaceships, who'd have thunk it?
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Mr cardking
Caldari Core Impulse
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Posted - 2009.05.17 00:44:00 -
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<3 IAC!
Now my take on the collapse of IAC had more to do with the crap space we lived in then the policital problems every alliance faces. JZV constellation is nearly as horrible as Providence is for safety and ISK making. I would never make isk in that constellation as id be popped by Sunsets before Id make it to the belts Granted -A- is a super power alliance I think the moment IAC lost to -A- was the day that Reunion joined up with the ebil russian oberlords!
But onto better times. I think alot of things have changed since the fall of the durnken cat. I think the formation of IAC at this point in time would be very possible and very impossible. The main pvp corps from IAC (Bof,MVN,IPWN,) Are all involved in different powerblocks and a reuniting would take alot of incentive.
Now onto better times!! <3 OrDer (Even if he did steal IACs PVPers!) <3 Narc for coming on TS during my fleets when he was totaly hammered. <3 Avi...must I say more?? <3 the rest of you drunkards!!
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portney
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2009.05.17 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Anton Marx
Originally by: VileLust <3 for IAC =]
Lots of us are NC, fair few are Atlas. Lot of the more carebear type are with CVA. If any of you are still out there =] evemail me, I've got a pretty long list of where many of the IAC types ended up.
Quite a few of us ended up in AAA too - Warhamsters, DKOD as entire corporations and individual people from various IAC corporations (most of them also ending up in WARH, DKOD and some RAT.)
Other than that, it's all over the universe, yes
hmm
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Aaron Min
Minmatar Genco Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2009.05.17 01:43:00 -
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IAC's purpose was fractured when TT was booted, if you want to call "purpose" "culture" then you could blame it on culture.
DKOD and FIRMA left because they felt the direction and purpose of IAC was no longer congruent with their corporate direction and purpose. Which at the time I would very much agree with.
When TT took over again just prior to his actions of theft, he was giving direction once again to the alliance, which is why it was improving.
Ultimately the failure of IAC was due to the loss of a unifying direction. When half of your corps don't agree with the alliance leaderships direction you have a problem. So when -A- decided to retaliate in game due to a forum bash (which I don't blame them for) the fracture widened and since Hachou didn't have enough of the corps on his side, failure ensued.
I <3 IAC and miss it daily :)
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patteSatan
Caldari Celtic Anarchy Force Of Evil
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Posted - 2009.05.19 02:07:00 -
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Hi... IAC was, by far, the most fun I have had in eve.
/me salutes the old guys, and spits on Dkod, the most useless corp there was in IAC.
...you women are creepy, but amusing as hell.
404 - Sense of humour not found. <===hUssmann VETO. made that
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