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Joran Dravius
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.05 14:43:00 -
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Believe it or not this actually was implemented. It was removed shortly before I joined beta from what I understand. I did see some old screenshots of it on the beta forum though. Not sure why they were removed. |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 21:22:00 -
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Testerxnot Sheepherder wrote:Yes, the game itself is fine, let's pimp the graphics.
Yet another person not getting that the art department and the game balance / game play mechanic departments are separate entities.
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Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 21:26:00 -
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Remistor Callaway wrote:
A black Minmatar ship with orange trails would be awsome. As for the lights, I think that what you want to fly is a kind of ricer. Ships are not 99' Honda Civics with neons under the body.
So what I'm seeing from you is, your idea of "custom skins" would be slightly different shades of the existing races color palettes.
Amarr: Gold, Dark gold, Light gold, Gold gold
Minmitar: Brown, Rust, Rusty Brown, Dark Brown
etc etc
Every ship already has running lights, nothing would be added. Stop trolling.
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Barengar Grayborne
Short Bus Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.05 21:49:00 -
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Deise Koraka wrote:How I'd like to see it implemented:
b: Give each race a limited color palette, probably selectable from within the current playable variants and NPC variants to stay true to the current art style.
I don't agree with a limited color palette based on race of the ship. We aren't "soldiers" we are capsuleers. Restricting the color palette practically squashes the idea all together since the point of being able to paint your ship is creative freedom. If I want a gold-plated Machariel I should be able to have it dang it!
An ISK based system would keep everyone happy as the NEX is a joke and we all know it (Yeah I've got an eyeball implant and navy shirt/pants/boots...that I paid ISK for). As previous posters have said this game needs a real money sink and people will blow tons of ISK to change their paint job over and over again whether they are just getting tired of it or keep getting blown up.
This game isn't this race versus this race, it is this corp versus this corp. If there is a corp out there that wants hello kitty pink ships then let them have it, the explosion will look the same when it gets ganked by people... |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 22:46:00 -
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Barengar Grayborne wrote:
This game isn't this race versus this race, it is this corp versus this corp. If there is a corp out there that wants hello kitty pink ships then let them have it, the explosion will look the same when it gets ganked by people...
CCP and anyone with even a modicum of taste would never allow this to happen. Paint and pattern styles need to stay within their racial and or factional design.
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Barengar Grayborne
Short Bus Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.05 23:08:00 -
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Deise Koraka wrote:Barengar Grayborne wrote:
This game isn't this race versus this race, it is this corp versus this corp. If there is a corp out there that wants hello kitty pink ships then let them have it, the explosion will look the same when it gets ganked by people...
CCP and anyone with even a modicum of taste would never allow this to happen. Paint and pattern styles need to stay within their racial and or factional design.
At this point it isn't about what an individual player wants or what CCP wants to see for ship colors and what not. It is about that creative freedom. You mention being able to use iconic color templates like Guristas and the like but why not be allowed to create our own. It IS that freedom that makes EvE history...
Obviously in the end what CCP gives us is what we get but I for one would give a flying f*** if somebody wanted to paint their ship whether they paint pink or paint it like a bumble bee. It doesn't effect my play and it just adds more variety to the already bland ship colors anyways. Look at what they are doing to Amarr ships. Glittery gold is out and dull bronze is in... |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
178
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Posted - 2012.05.05 23:30:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Deise Koraka wrote:Torneach wrote:Can we just kill the NeX store already and move all the junk in there to player production through industry? EvE Log: Captain Lameass: Today I spent my time on EvE mining Tritainium to manufacture T-Shirts. It was ttly badass. EvE 4evah bros, peace out. Yay for straw men! Put some sunglasses on the next one, please.
I think the point was how ludicrous it is to manufacture T-Shirts from Tritanium. Considering minerals and resources in game are mostly related to the manufacture of space ship parts and stations, I can't think of a reason why that wouldn't be a good argument. On the other hand, it's perfectly reasonable to expect PI to produce some of the required materials, and to an extenti t maybe/sorta does. A lot better than making fuel out of Robot Parts anyway.
So.. to disagree with the OP or not to disagree with the OP; that is the question.
Generally speaking, I'm going to agree as I never noticed a mention of NEX or PLEX, but I didn't read it all anyway. However, I too went "wtf" when I noticed the custom exhaust headers; actually that's as far as I got. Shall we have Neon LEDs too? "Pimp my Ride?"
Okay, I get customizing ships and changing paint schemes to a certain degree, but this is getting a bit ludicrous. I'd say offer a combination of options from NEX and General market and availability through player interaction.
Custom ship design schemes can be sold on NEX, (I really don't have an issue with that), that can then be either sold on the market in game or used to produce ships using that design for Contract sale. Obviously, Custom-Custom is not going to work with the regular market. Any ship repackaged will have to revert to its regular form.
In-game customization can be available on Custom designs and regular skins and provide a good NPC ISK sink. This will allow players to change the tint of Custom designs or colors of regular skins to one degree or another. Changing exhaust trails is a bit silly, unless you think swapping the engines with something that produces purple smoke is still going to result in you being able to fly the ship.
You could also offer Faction and other NPC ship skins through LP to bring another option into it. FW players and missioners could get their own ship skins specific to the respective factions through this. Imagine a Rifter flying around with Caldari colors for example?
Effectively, no matter how you get it or from where, a Design sheme for a specific ship type would be a 'BPO' or 'BPC' that you could use many times or once respectively. You could sell them, trade them through Contract, or use them for manufacture. Potentially, if added to the ship manufacturing queue they could even make the process faster and more cost effective.
Nothing wrong with the idea, and to ease the implementation, these design could be made available initially, (or ever for that matter), for use with specific ships that are consistently popular and well-liked by the game population. Rifter for example, or even a Drake or Hurricane.
This would limit the number of 'Custom' skins that would have to be created and make it sort of like the legacy of custom cars. Only very specific models have ever been consistently customized to any great degree. There are cars; and there are The Cars. I don't mean the late 70's rock band either. Alliance Auction - EVE Rogues: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1215438#post1215438 |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
556
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Posted - 2012.05.06 05:43:00 -
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I'll just leave these here...
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/facebookpropaganda4.jpg http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/facebookpropaganda3.jpg http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/facebookpropaganda2.jpg http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/facebookpropaganda1.jpg http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s260/MrOosterman/ponyclub.png
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ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells
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Posted - 2012.05.06 11:40:00 -
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At least put corp decals on ships |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2012.05.06 11:41:00 -
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Custom ship skins eh, isn't this what triggered the NEX fiasco?
And after they deployed out NEX, here you all are back again, square one, asking for customisation again, and CCP want to MONETISE that demand.
Which is it? Do you want NEX or not? Sounds like you do, but you don't want to pay for it.
Well, if you want custom stuff, you are going to pay for it. NO if's no Buts. NEX is back in vogue again.
More NEX items incomming, and maybe ship skins, so that means,,, MICROPAYMENTS.
Didn't take long to come back to this old thing again.
I vote we rename the next Expansion for Eve. Eve: Galaxies. |
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
557
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Posted - 2012.05.06 11:56:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Custom ship skins eh, isn't this what triggered the NEX fiasco?
And after they deployed out NEX, here you all are back again, square one, asking for customisation again, and CCP want to MONETISE that demand.
Which is it? Do you want NEX or not? Sounds like you do, but you don't want to pay for it.
Well, if you want custom stuff, you are going to pay for it. NO if's no Buts. NEX is back in vogue again.
More NEX items incomming, and maybe ship skins, so that means,,, MICROPAYMENTS.
Didn't take long to come back to this old thing again.
I vote we rename the next Expansion for Eve. Eve: Galaxies.
I'd imagine they'd do a combination of LP, Mission Rewards, AURUM and isk, with varying levels of cost and rarity. Regarding effort and performance cost, no where near as much as you'd expect.
Theres even a whole bunch already done and waiting :P
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:00:00 -
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:Miilla wrote:Custom ship skins eh, isn't this what triggered the NEX fiasco?
And after they deployed out NEX, here you all are back again, square one, asking for customisation again, and CCP want to MONETISE that demand.
Which is it? Do you want NEX or not? Sounds like you do, but you don't want to pay for it.
Well, if you want custom stuff, you are going to pay for it. NO if's no Buts. NEX is back in vogue again.
More NEX items incomming, and maybe ship skins, so that means,,, MICROPAYMENTS.
Didn't take long to come back to this old thing again.
I vote we rename the next Expansion for Eve. Eve: Galaxies. I'd imagine they'd do a combination of LP, Mission Rewards, AURUM and isk, with varying levels of cost and rarity. Regarding effort and performance cost, no where near as much as you'd expect.
This is going right back to Incarna/NEX.
CCP always had the intention of slowly bringing it back once the huffpuff died off. obviously CCP's market metrics are correct and there is a big demand for this and players asking for it.
I for one welcome our free to play, micro transaction pants wearing overlords, but only if I can walk around the station naked in protest. |
NickyYo
StarHug Brotherhood of Starbridge
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:04:00 -
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Deise Koraka wrote:Torneach wrote:Can we just kill the NeX store already and move all the junk in there to player production through industry? EvE Log: Captain Lameass: Today I spent my time on EvE mining Tritanium to manufacture T-Shirts. It was ttly badass. EvE 4evah bros, peace out.
Hello Captain Lameass #2: Maybee he could mine the fabrics from plant interaction. |
Thomas Kreshant
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:05:00 -
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I wouldn't add custom skins at all |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
557
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:06:00 -
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Miilla wrote:T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:Miilla wrote:Custom ship skins eh, isn't this what triggered the NEX fiasco?
And after they deployed out NEX, here you all are back again, square one, asking for customisation again, and CCP want to MONETISE that demand.
Which is it? Do you want NEX or not? Sounds like you do, but you don't want to pay for it.
Well, if you want custom stuff, you are going to pay for it. NO if's no Buts. NEX is back in vogue again.
More NEX items incomming, and maybe ship skins, so that means,,, MICROPAYMENTS.
Didn't take long to come back to this old thing again.
I vote we rename the next Expansion for Eve. Eve: Galaxies. I'd imagine they'd do a combination of LP, Mission Rewards, AURUM and isk, with varying levels of cost and rarity. Regarding effort and performance cost, no where near as much as you'd expect. This is going right back to Incarna/NEX. CCP always had the intention of slowly bringing it back once the huffpuff died off. obviously CCP's market metrics are correct and there is a big demand for this and players asking for it. I for one welcome our free to play, micro transaction pants wearing overlords, but only if I can walk around the station naked in protest.
I'm the last person to advocate microtransactions - I did give away free trips to iceland in protest, but I think alot of people are actually unaware of how many people were at the jita protests because the prices were too high and not specifically because of Aurum.
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:07:00 -
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Well check SiSi, we are going down the NEX route again.
The door will be opening to the obvious soon.
I can see the changes in every patch when I diff them. I for one welcome our micro patching sneaky overlords :)
That is the failing of most source control systems and dev attitudes, they deploy checked in assets (code etc) that has no bearing on the acutal patch but is part of future patches because that is just how they check them into the source repository, lack of care on their part :) Add's to leaky info for us that do actually diff patches :) |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
557
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:30:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Well check SiSi, we are going down the NEX route again.
The door will be opening to the obvious soon.
I can see the changes in every patch when I diff them. I for one welcome our micro patching sneaky overlords :)
That is the failing of most source control systems and dev attitudes, they deploy checked in assets (code etc) that has no bearing on the acutal patch but is part of future patches because that is just how they check them into the source repository, lack of care on their part :) Add's to leaky info for us that do actually diff patches :)
please to tell what is on the nex store now? www.shipsofeve.com
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
298
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:30:00 -
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:Miilla wrote:Well check SiSi, we are going down the NEX route again.
The door will be opening to the obvious soon.
I can see the changes in every patch when I diff them. I for one welcome our micro patching sneaky overlords :)
That is the failing of most source control systems and dev attitudes, they deploy checked in assets (code etc) that has no bearing on the acutal patch but is part of future patches because that is just how they check them into the source repository, lack of care on their part :) Add's to leaky info for us that do actually diff patches :) please to tell what is on the nex store now?
Pants. |
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
557
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Posted - 2012.05.06 12:33:00 -
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Miilla wrote:T'amber Anomandari Demaleon wrote:Miilla wrote:Well check SiSi, we are going down the NEX route again.
The door will be opening to the obvious soon.
I can see the changes in every patch when I diff them. I for one welcome our micro patching sneaky overlords :)
That is the failing of most source control systems and dev attitudes, they deploy checked in assets (code etc) that has no bearing on the acutal patch but is part of future patches because that is just how they check them into the source repository, lack of care on their part :) Add's to leaky info for us that do actually diff patches :) please to tell what is on the nex store now? Pants.
clownskin??? www.shipsofeve.com
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Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.06 21:34:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Custom ship skins eh, isn't this what triggered the NEX fiasco?
And after they deployed out NEX, here you all are back again, square one, asking for customisation again, and CCP want to MONETISE that demand.
Which is it? Do you want NEX or not? Sounds like you do, but you don't want to pay for it.
Well, if you want custom stuff, you are going to pay for it. NO if's no Buts. NEX is back in vogue again.
More NEX items incomming, and maybe ship skins, so that means,,, MICROPAYMENTS.
Didn't take long to come back to this old thing again.
I vote we rename the next Expansion for Eve. Eve: Galaxies.
Not factoring in that leaked letter, if the NeX store had launched with a selection of reasonably priced ship cosmetic items, I doubt there would have been any uproar at all. They half assed it, they overcharged and with all the other drama surrounding its launch it left a sour taste in every ones mouth. It's a uphill battle at this point, but I think they can recover. They just need to do it quietly, without making a huge deal out of it..so people don't see it as a design resource hog. Like one day, on Inferno patch v1.95 there are suddenly 20 skins to purchase....with a few new ones released every couple months. It would just become just another feature of EvE, with no fanfare or shoving it down peoples throats.
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Paragon Renegade
Wyvern Operations
348
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Posted - 2012.05.06 21:45:00 -
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Why can't cosmetic alterations be free? It's not like the running lights on a Megathron are going to blind you The pie is a tautology |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
303
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Posted - 2012.05.06 21:48:00 -
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Paragon Renegade wrote:Why can't cosmetic alterations be free? It's not like the running lights on a Megathron are going to blind you
Because they want to make money? Greed is good. |
Paragon Renegade
Wyvern Operations
348
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Posted - 2012.05.06 21:54:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Paragon Renegade wrote:Why can't cosmetic alterations be free? It's not like the running lights on a Megathron are going to blind you Because they want to make money? Greed is good.
Once again, the queen of Rens has spoken :3 The pie is a tautology |
George Whitebread
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.06 21:54:00 -
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Deise Koraka wrote: b: Give each race a limited color palette, probably selectable from within the current playable variants and NPC variants to stay true to the current art style.
c: Choose from a base set of styles decided on by CCP, no wacky pink or cute spaceships.
These two points are imperative if this is to be implemented IMO. Anything else will break all immersion for so many players.
What I really hope for, is to be able to paint foreign factions' ships in my own faction's colors. Like painting a Rifter or Charon in Amarr palette. It has always felt wrong not to have the ship in proper colors only because it's a stolen design. Signed: George Whitebread |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
303
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Posted - 2012.05.06 22:03:00 -
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Paragon Renegade wrote:Miilla wrote:Paragon Renegade wrote:Why can't cosmetic alterations be free? It's not like the running lights on a Megathron are going to blind you Because they want to make money? Greed is good. Once again, the queen of Rens has spoken :3 But really, that's stupid, we should be able to get cosmetic things for free
CCP giveeth in one hand and taketh with the other. |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.06 22:16:00 -
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Paragon Renegade wrote:
Once again, the queen of Rens has spoken :3
But really, that's stupid, we should be able to get cosmetic things for free
Cosmetic items are optional, you don't need them to have access to every game play aspect of EvE. Like all luxuries, they are going to cost money. Money that if you *choose* to give to CCP for a pretty ship paint job, wont affect the game or anything else, with the possible exception of your personal ship spin enjoyment levels. It's a optional way for the players to support CCP at their leisure, while staying spaceship-centric...unlike the original NeX launch. ____________________________
I am a carebear, and I support High Sec ganking and PvP. Just please, don't blow up my Hulk. <3 |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
340
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Posted - 2012.05.06 22:44:00 -
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Paragon Renegade wrote:Miilla wrote:Paragon Renegade wrote:Why can't cosmetic alterations be free? It's not like the running lights on a Megathron are going to blind you Because they want to make money? Greed is good. Once again, the queen of Rens has spoken :3 But really, that's stupid, we should be able to get cosmetic things for free
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Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition
1069
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Posted - 2012.05.06 23:02:00 -
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I'll just leave this here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1226598#post1226598 The Drake is a Lie |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
340
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Posted - 2012.05.06 23:04:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Well check SiSi, we are going down the NEX route again.
The door will be opening to the obvious soon.
I can see the changes in every patch when I diff them. I for one welcome our micro patching sneaky overlords :)
That is the failing of most source control systems and dev attitudes, they deploy checked in assets (code etc) that has no bearing on the acutal patch but is part of future patches because that is just how they check them into the source repository, lack of care on their part :) Add's to leaky info for us that do actually diff patches :)
Oh wow, just checked SiSi and I'm in love with this shiny leather outfit that rocks my rear end .. gief nao This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.-á Without me, my signature is useless. Without my signature, I am useless |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
304
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Posted - 2012.05.06 23:05:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:Miilla wrote:Well check SiSi, we are going down the NEX route again.
The door will be opening to the obvious soon.
I can see the changes in every patch when I diff them. I for one welcome our micro patching sneaky overlords :)
That is the failing of most source control systems and dev attitudes, they deploy checked in assets (code etc) that has no bearing on the acutal patch but is part of future patches because that is just how they check them into the source repository, lack of care on their part :) Add's to leaky info for us that do actually diff patches :) Oh wow, just checked SiSi and I'm in love with this shiny leather outfit that rocks my rear end .. gief nao
I don't really care what CCP put on NEX , at least not until I can change out of this RUINED bloodline they BROKE. |
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