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Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 01:42:00 -
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How I'd like to see it implemented:
1.Design:
a: Camo, Matte, Gloss, Metallic, Pearlescent options for Trim and Main layer.
b: Give each race a limited color palette, probably selectable from within the current playable variants and NPC variants to stay true to the current art style.
c: Choose from a base set of styles decided on by CCP, no wacky pink or cute spaceships.
2.Options:
a: 3 Layers to change; Main, Trim, Running lights.
b: Custom exhaust color.
c: Custom Decals
3.Execution:
a: Sell 3 options for number of uses: 1, 5, 10 use Tickets
b: Paint jobs are removable once finalized becoming a "module" once in this state it can no longer be changed. It can then be sold on the market for ISK.
c: Paint jobs are destroyed with the ship.
d: Make the price for them painless, so people keep coming back for more. 10,000 1 dollar sales are better than 100 20 dollar sales.
e: Rare limited edition skins for higher prices could pop up on the Nex store, or be given out as prizes/gifts.
Opinions?
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Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
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Posted - 2012.05.05 01:52:00 -
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How about we never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever add more to the NeX. |
Remistor Callaway
Talos Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:03:00 -
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I dont want to see paint jobs on the nex store. It will make paint jobs unaffordable and even more useless. Clothes are already very expensive for their purpose, but at least there is no way to destroy them like a ship.
Paint jobs should be paid with ISK directly from the wallet(let say 1mil per paint job), a may be only some station could offer the service, like the medical center for clones.
I agree on the "no pink" part. I dont want to see gold plated ship neither.
I agree that some kind of system like the Forza storefront could be nice in EVE. Sell paint jobs to the market for ISK etc...
Custom engines trails: NO. They are already a race "signature". A Minmatar ship with blue trails makes no sense. |
Alexa Coates
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:13:00 -
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I want a spore-eqsue way to paint ships. You can pick full, ready made skins, or you can make your own from separate parts and colors. Love my Gallente Federation Navy ships! |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:14:00 -
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Remistor Callaway wrote: Custom engines trails: NO. They are already a race "signature". A Minmatar ship with blue trails makes no sense.
If you customize your Minmitar ship with blue running lights and a primarily black paint job, why would red/orange trails make any sense?
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Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:16:00 -
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Alexa Coates wrote:I want a spore-eqsue way to paint ships. You can pick full, ready made skins, or you can make your own from separate parts and colors.
Uh...my post included everything you said. |
Epiphaniess
Verboten Technologies
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:23:00 -
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Jayrendo Karr wrote:How about we never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever add more to the NeX.
Well it seems that is not going to happen, it seems that CCP has plans to add some more clothing options in the next expansion...
So I guess it is time for you to Biomass yourself in butt hurt protest, but give me your stuff first.
Have a nice day!!! |
Torneach
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:24:00 -
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Can we just kill the NeX store already and move all the junk in there to player production through industry? |
Jayrendo Karr
Suns Of Korhal Terran Commonwealth
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:26:00 -
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Epiphaniess wrote:
Well it seems that is not going to happen, it seems that CCP has plans to add some more clothing options in the next expansion...
So I guess it is time for you to Biomass yourself in butt hurt protest, but give me your stuff first.
Have a nice day!!!
Anyone who pays for Microtransactions while still being charged full price, is an idiot, PLEXes will skyrocket making them unaffordable to anyone without 40 hours a week spare time |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:33:00 -
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Derailing threads is down to a science on the EvE forums.
Now we just need someone to ask about a PvE fit for a Megathron, and have someone tell them to fly a Tengu instead of answering their question, the thread will then be complete and a mod can lock it.
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Styx Cyc
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:34:00 -
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Someone seems to be a fan of NFS:Underground and rice rockets. |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:40:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Can we just kill the NeX store already and move all the junk in there to player production through industry?
EvE Log: Captain Lameass:
Today I spent my time on EvE mining Tritanium to manufacture T-Shirts. It was ttly badass. EvE 4evah bros, peace out. |
Torneach
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:42:00 -
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Deise Koraka wrote:Torneach wrote:Can we just kill the NeX store already and move all the junk in there to player production through industry? EvE Log: Captain Lameass: Today I spent my time on EvE mining Tritainium to manufacture T-Shirts. It was ttly badass. EvE 4evah bros, peace out.
Yay for straw men!
Put some sunglasses on the next one, please. |
Lapine Davion
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:42:00 -
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Jayrendo Karr wrote:Epiphaniess wrote:
Well it seems that is not going to happen, it seems that CCP has plans to add some more clothing options in the next expansion...
So I guess it is time for you to Biomass yourself in butt hurt protest, but give me your stuff first.
Have a nice day!!!
Anyone who pays for Microtransactions while still being charged full price, is an idiot, PLEXes will skyrocket making them unaffordable to anyone without 40 hours a week spare time. Hi-rez studios has the right idea which is why i more than gladly pay them for micro transactions every so often. The don't give an advantage other than the ability to get weapons faster. The game is free and all weapons are unlockable through gameplay.
It would be like this?
Edit: The Nex store isn't going to have pay to win items. It will just be pay to bling. Don't worry about posting with your main! -áPost with your brain! "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." |
Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:52:00 -
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I like your rack but you need to take that metal out of your face.
Also anything thats singular gets suicide ganked. True story
And it would take a lot of work to make your vision happen and before you know it every would by flying ponies just to annoy everyone else. Also a true story I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:56:00 -
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Torneach wrote:Yay for straw men! Put some sunglasses on the next one, please.
Seriously though.. lower prices, a smoother implementation and permanent product availability would make the NeX a painless experience. Everything doesn't need to be limited edition, everything doesn't need to be 20$+.
Black and Red skin 1 time use for Minmitar ship: 875 Aurum (1 Plex = 4 skins)
It's reasonable, and priced low enough where someone would come back for repeated purchases for all their special / mission running bling ships. |
Epiphaniess
Verboten Technologies
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Posted - 2012.05.05 02:58:00 -
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Jayrendo Karr wrote:Epiphaniess wrote:
Well it seems that is not going to happen, it seems that CCP has plans to add some more clothing options in the next expansion...
So I guess it is time for you to Biomass yourself in butt hurt protest, but give me your stuff first.
Have a nice day!!!
Anyone who pays for Microtransactions while still being charged full price, is an idiot, PLEXes will skyrocket making them unaffordable to anyone without 40 hours a week spare time. Hi-rez studios has the right idea which is why i more than gladly pay them for micro transactions every so often. The don't give an advantage other than the ability to get weapons faster. The game is free and all weapons are unlockable through gameplay.
Well if there is one thing we have learned from ridiculous kill mails with ridiculously expensive ship fits is that some people like to bling out there ships with the ridiculous amounts of isk they have. And there seems to be a a lot of isk in the game that needs a place to be burnt.
And since the clothing store may not be the best way to burn that isk, since all you can really do is stand alone in your lonely captains quarters looking at yourself in your mirror.
Maybe being able to bling out your ship with more unique paint jobs and flashy lights would be more appealing for those that like to bling out ships. I think it probably would be since people can look at how much money you spent on your primary target...err I mean blingmobile.
I think it would be kind of nice to have some options such as the OP's. Although also think such options would be unlikely currently. Since have all those customization options for ships would increase the load stress on the servers a whole lot, especially in any situation where there are a large number of ships with such options, such as fleet fights, jita whatnot.
I can see CCP making it so you can change the way your ship looks, but probably not with so many options. Like change the lights, engine trails multiple color options and what not. Something more in line with swapping out the normal skin/texture map of your ship with a different one. |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:00:00 -
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Karn Dulake wrote: Also, anything can be suicide ganked.
And it would take very little work to make your vision happen and I didn't read your post so I didn't see the part about limiting the design choices to in house CCP designers. Also I'm trolling
I fixed your post.
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Torneach
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:05:00 -
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Deise Koraka wrote:Seriously though.. lower prices, a smoother implementation and permanent product availability would make the NeX a painless experience. Everything doesn't need to be limited edition, everything doesn't need to be 20$+.
Black and Red skin 1 time use for Minmitar ship: 875 Aurum (1 Plex = 4 skins)
It's reasonable, and priced low enough where someone would come back for repeated purchases for all their special / mission running bling ships.
Pretty much everything in EVE appears in-game through some sort of player activity, whether it's mining, production, research, agent running, or blowing up ships.
Why should these cosmetic things be any different?
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Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:07:00 -
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Epiphaniess wrote:
Well if there is one thing we have learned from ridiculous kill mails with ridiculously expensive ship fits is that some people like to bling out there ships with the ridiculous amounts of isk they have. And there seems to be a a lot of isk in the game that needs a place to be burnt.
And since the clothing store may not be the best way to burn that isk, since all you can really do is stand alone in your lonely captains quarters looking at yourself in your mirror.
Maybe being able to bling out your ship with more unique paint jobs and flashy lights would be more appealing for those that like to bling out ships. I think it probably would be since people can look at how much money you spent on your primary target...err I mean blingmobile.
I think it would be kind of nice to have some options such as the OP's. Although also think such options would be unlikely currently. Since have all those customization options for ships would increase the load stress on the servers a whole lot, especially in any situation where there are a large number of ships with such options, such as fleet fights, jita whatnot.
I can see CCP making it so you can change the way your ship looks, but probably not with so many options. Like change the lights, engine trails multiple color options and what not. Something more in line with swapping out the normal skin/texture map of your ship with a different one.
I think that's part of the fun, heightening the risk of being a gank target, just so you can look awesome. At the same time, if it's priced cheap, most nice mission boats will have them, which will mean safety in numbers for the high-seccers, but more targets to choose from for gankers.
I agree the simple re-skins will probably be the reality of it, but one can dream.
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Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:08:00 -
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Deise Koraka wrote:Karn Dulake wrote: Also, anything can be suicide ganked.
And it would take very little work to make your vision happen and I didn't read your post so I didn't see the part about limiting the design choices to in house CCP designers. Also I'm trolling I fixed your post.
True story I dont normally troll, but when i do i do it on General Discussion. |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:10:00 -
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Torneach wrote:
Why should these cosmetic things be any different?
Because the whole point of the NeX store was so CCP could make more money on EvE, and spaceship related customization would be the best way to do it, not t-shirts and fake eyes.
*glances at my profile pic* Hmm...just ignore that image.
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Torneach
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:14:00 -
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Deise Koraka wrote:Because the whole point of the NeX store was so CCP could make more money on EvE, and spaceship related customization would be the best way to do it, not t-shirts and fake eyes.
*glances at my profile pic* Hmm...just ignore that image.
Well, this thread isn't really about the purposeof the NeX store, so I won't push it and derail it any further.
Back on track, I like your ideas for all the possible cosmetic changes for ships. However, there would need to be some sort of protection against performance degradation. I'd imagine the client/server having to process all kinds of variations on the base models would be rather unfortunate for performance.
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Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:23:00 -
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Torneach wrote:
Back on track, I like your ideas for all the possible cosmetic changes for ships. However, there would need to be some sort of protection against performance degradation. I'd imagine the client/server having to process all kinds of variations on the base models would be rather unfortunate for performance.
Yeah, honestly I think it would have to be done from a limited selection of texture packs, so there wouldn't be too many variants as far as random combinations go. Easy mode would be to include all the current in game NPC variants for your ship hull as purchasable options, with just a few Limited edition skins popping up here and there.
Examples:
Classic Serpentis Pack for all Gallente ships: Matte Black Paint, Toxic Green Running Lights, Serpentis Decal Blood Raider Pack for all Amarr ships: Blood Spatter Paint, Raider Decal, Dark Gold Trim and Running Lights
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Phiad Aurilen
Only fools 'n' horses Comic Mischief
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Posted - 2012.05.05 03:59:00 -
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I was thinking about this a month or two back. I thought it would be great if we had a system to paint our ships that was in a was similar to say Forza. What I thought was :-
That the system would have a base set of decals that could be stretched, squashed, rotated etc.
These decals would be placed onto a layer maybe mirrored to be simmetrical. (Go faster stripes FTW!)
There would only be maybe 6 layers on a ship. (Not saying this is all i want... I could use a 100 if given a chance )
A slight variation on base ship texture Colour for added effect are more costly in isk.
After thinking about these things it occured to me that it wouldn't be too hard for such a system to exist. The code for the decal placements & colours which is transmitted to CCP at time of undocking would be tiny as the assets are all in our clients.
The LOD over distance would mask detail & give time for those far away from the new decal augmented ship to load the data.
Jumping into system would give enough time for the locals in system / in sight of gate / station to recieve decal layer data.
Charge 100mill isk per paint job template. Charge 10mill to put that template back onto your new ship.
An isk sink methinks & something to do during station games |
Deise Koraka
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.05 04:07:00 -
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Torneach wrote:
Well, this thread isn't really about the purposeof the NeX store, so I won't push it and derail it any further.
What was the NeX store for, besides making CCP more cash? ____________________________
I am a carebear, and I support High Sec ganking and PvP. Just please, don't blow up my Hulk. <3 |
Remistor Callaway
Talos Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.05.05 13:38:00 -
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Deise Koraka wrote:Remistor Callaway wrote: Custom engines trails: NO. They are already a race "signature". A Minmatar ship with blue trails makes no sense. If you customize your Minmitar ship with blue running lights and a primarily black paint job, why would red/orange trails make any sense?
A black Minmatar ship with orange trails would be awsome. As for the lights, I think that what you want to fly is a kind of ricer. Ships are not 99' Honda Civics with neons under the body. |
Testerxnot Sheepherder
Treasures Collectors Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2012.05.05 13:40:00 -
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Yes, the game itself is fine, let's pimp the graphics. |
Aleksander Erkkinen
Southern Cross Empire Flying Dangerous
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Posted - 2012.05.05 14:39:00 -
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Actually if anything they should use paint jobs as an isk sink. There is nothing better than disposable cosmetics to remove currency from a game, since people will pay so considerably for it (even $$$).
The price should vary as:
- Each hull category costs more than the last, so pimping a frigate is relatively cheap but that gold plated titan is really going to hurt your wallet.
- Tech level increases costs dramatically.
- Color popularity/desireability increases costs exponentially (gold plating is possible, but at such a premium that it becomes the new monocle - pimp my riders get to bling, and when you pop a gold plated ship gankers get to squee).
It should, of course, be completely and irrevocably destroyed when a ship pops.
This breaks absolutely no mechanics. This nerfs nothing. This is available to everyone. There is no real reason for controversy. This is an isk sink that can be adjusted without far reaching ramifications. Its something players clearly want (and can ignore completely if they don't). I see it as win/win for players and CCP alike.
Edit: formatting. |
Boston Bradley
The Concordiat Concordiat Alliance
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Posted - 2012.05.05 14:42:00 -
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Horrible Idea.
Easily Abused.
Also, another rage invasion from GoonBad would occur. |
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