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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:16:00 -
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Andrea Roche wrote:Going after pve fits, barges and wardec industrial is not PVP. Chumps call that pvp. Real pvpers call that noob fights Fine, call it what you want, it's still (P)layer (V)s (P)layer. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:18:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Andrea Roche wrote:Going after pve fits, barges and wardec industrial is not PVP. Chumps call that pvp. Real pvpers call that noob fights Fine, call it what you want, it's still (P)layer (V)s (P)layer. Yeah sure ganking is also Player vs Player and i believe even the chumps call that ganking and not pvp? Ever wonder why? Cos Going after pve fits, barges and wardec industrial is not PVP. DOES NOT COMPUTE! |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:20:00 -
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Ganking is PVP, since we're talking about one player ganking another player. It's cheap PVP, sure, but you can't get away from the fact that it's still PVP. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:22:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Ganking is PVP, since we're talking about one player ganking another player. It's cheap PVP, sure, but you can't get away from the fact that it's still PVP.
gush. You are chump to the bone XD. I am sorry but did not know this until now |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:22:00 -
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PvP is any action where you interact competitively with another player. A hulk is a PvP ship if you're using it to collect minerals which you then sell on the market. A Freighter is a PvP ship if you're transporting modules to your Alliance to supply a fleet, or to Jita where you'll undercut another seller. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:24:00 -
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Andrea Roche wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Ganking is PVP, since we're talking about one player ganking another player. It's cheap PVP, sure, but you can't get away from the fact that it's still PVP. gush. You are chump to the bone XD. I am sorry but did not know this until now You can read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_player if you don't trust me just because I'm a goon. vOv |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:28:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Andrea Roche wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Ganking is PVP, since we're talking about one player ganking another player. It's cheap PVP, sure, but you can't get away from the fact that it's still PVP. gush. You are chump to the bone XD. I am sorry but did not know this until now You can read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_versus_player if you don't trust me just because I'm a goon. vOv
ROFL. Dude while you are fitted for PVP then others are fitted for PVE or incase of a freighter is not even fitted. PVP fit vs PVE PVP fit vs Freighter with no fit. Yes you are doing something with another player but its not PVP. Only chumps think that killing a freighter is pvp. How long have you been playing this game? |
bongsmoke
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
39
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:31:00 -
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Love how this thread got derailed. Thank all the trolls, since it has zero value anyway. |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:31:00 -
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bongsmoke wrote:Love how this thread got derailed. Thank all the trolls, since it has zero value anyway. i have a theory that this thread is just one big troll. I think i already said that in a previous post |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:33:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:PvP is any action where you interact competitively with another player.
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Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:41:00 -
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Andrea Roche wrote:ROFL. Dude while you are fitted for PVP then others are fitted for PVE or incase of a freighter is not even fitted. PVP fit vs PVE PVP fit vs Freighter with no fit. Yes you are doing something with another player but its not PVP. Only chumps think that killing a freighter is pvp. How long have you been playing this game? I've probably been playing this game far, far longer than you have.
I've caused someone to lose money because of manipulation I did. That's PVP. I've driven someone out of an asteroid belt because I kept mining his roids out from under him. Still PVP. I've griefed someone out of their mission by warping in and salvaging/stealing their wrecks. Still PVP. I've shot a titan with over a thousand other people. Still PVP. I've shot a 5b faction missioning ship for his modules. Guess what? It's still PVP.
The fact you're apparently not treating language as accurately as you could've doesn't make me wrong. Ganking (which a PVP-fit ship vs a PVE-fit ship would be labelled) is still PVP. |
malcovas Henderson
Smoking Minerals Syndicate Cannabis Legionis
67
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:44:00 -
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Andrea Roche wrote:
ROFL. Dude while you are fitted for PVP then others are fitted for PVE or incase of a freighter is not even fitted. PVP fit vs PVE PVP fit vs Freighter with no fit. Yes you are doing something with another player but its not PVP. Only chumps think that killing a freighter is pvp. How long have you been playing this game?
I would say, if the Freighter pilot was AFK, then yes you might have an arguement that that is PvE.
no matter how you look at it though. The Indy ship is player controlled. He fitted it. He made the decisions. By this fact alone. Ganking and shooting indies, and all that bla bla bla can only be considered PvP. Yes risk free, noobish, and downright cowardly but still PvP.
o7 |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:44:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Andrea Roche wrote:ROFL. Dude while you are fitted for PVP then others are fitted for PVE or incase of a freighter is not even fitted. PVP fit vs PVE PVP fit vs Freighter with no fit. Yes you are doing something with another player but its not PVP. Only chumps think that killing a freighter is pvp. How long have you been playing this game? I've probably been playing this game far, far longer than you have. I've caused someone to lose money because of manipulation I did. That's PVP. I've driven someone out of an asteroid belt because I kept mining his roids out from under him. Still PVP. I've griefed someone out of their mission by warping in and salvaging/stealing their wrecks. Still PVP. I've shot a titan with over a thousand other people. Still PVP. I've shot a 5b faction missioning ship for his modules. Guess what? It's still PVP. The fact you're apparently not treating language as accurately as you could've doesn't make me wrong. Ganking (which a PVP-fit ship vs a PVE-fit ship would be labelled) is still PVP.
God. Thats all i got to say. facepalm |
Lord Zim
709
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:48:00 -
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Andrea Roche wrote:God. Thats all i got to say. facepalm What can I say, I'm a pedant and I prefer it when people use accurate definitions. Don't argue semantics with a pedant who's right. vOv |
Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2012.05.26 20:55:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Andrea Roche wrote:God. Thats all i got to say. facepalm What can I say, I'm a pedant and I prefer it when people use accurate definitions. Don't argue semantics with a pedant who's right. vOv
yeah keep telling youself that market manipulation is pvp |
General Freight
GIRLFRIEND SURF TEAM
26
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Posted - 2012.05.26 22:46:00 -
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Andrea Roche wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Andrea Roche wrote:God. Thats all i got to say. facepalm What can I say, I'm a pedant and I prefer it when people use accurate definitions. Don't argue semantics with a pedant who's right. vOv yeah keep telling youself that market manipulation is pvp
It is. What price do you pay for getting blown up? Cannot it not be measured purely in terms of ISK and inconvenience?
Is is not a pvp "win" to defeat more expensive ships, even while losing a larger number of cheap ones? Is it not a "win" to make billions of ISK sheerly from buying low and selling high? What was the actual difference in the two acts, aside from animation?
In life, you are real and have important and unique human qualities. Death is meaningful. Here it just costs you ISK and time. |
Lexar Mundi
EVE Pilots for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
12
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Posted - 2012.05.27 04:40:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Lexar Mundi wrote:Cloaking devices are just like sitting in station, do you want to make it cost fuel to sit in a station afk too? Worst comparison I've seen for a while. Of course you do, you're one of those who are bad at ganking and need all the help they can get.
yeah your right that is a bad comparison, because the guy sitting in station can undock in something with dps and tank.
and the bad at ganking, do you mean high sec ganking or nul sec pvp? because those are two dif things. Someone sees a neutral or red in local out in nul sec 90% of them dock up and the other 10% jump through a jump bridge... how are you suppose to kill that? |
Lord Zim
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Posted - 2012.05.27 04:48:00 -
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Lexar Mundi wrote:and the bad at ganking, do you mean high sec ganking or nul sec pvp? because those are two dif things. Someone sees a neutral or red in local out in nul sec 90% of them dock up and the other 10% jump through a jump bridge... how are you suppose to kill that? Actually, it's m ore like 90% dock up/hide in a POS, 10% spend enough time that a good ganker can find and lock them down, as evidenced by the fact people keep dying every day in their ratting ships to roaming gangs. |
Lexar Mundi
EVE Pilots for the Ethical Treatment of Asteroids
12
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Posted - 2012.05.27 04:50:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Lexar Mundi wrote:and the bad at ganking, do you mean high sec ganking or nul sec pvp? because those are two dif things. Someone sees a neutral or red in local out in nul sec 90% of them dock up and the other 10% jump through a jump bridge... how are you suppose to kill that? Actually, it's m ore like 90% dock up/hide in a POS, 10% spend enough time that a good ganker can find and lock them down, as evidenced by the fact people keep dying every day in their ratting ships to roaming gangs. or those 10% think their safe at a jump bridge POS in a carrier and get bumped out because everyone in nul sec has the FF password lmao, i loved watching that. |
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