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Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.27 14:53:00 - [1] The time has come to be transparent with the cluster. The threat that New Eden faces is greater than ever, and despite what you have all seen in static and hazy images from beyond the boundaries of known space, the situation is far more dire than any of you can comprehend. On May 17th, after warning off Nation influence from attempting to call members of my corporation into the service of Nation and to arms against the core empires, I was contacted directly and personally by Sansha Kuvakei : >>> External Galnet Link <<< Many have speculated about the incursion into Taisy, but none have so far been able to confirm how successful the raid was, and if Nation's objectives were met. The displayed mail is the first in a chain of communications, sustained in the hope that our corporation would be able to barter for the transfer of the Kyonoke Virus into more stable and controlled hands. For weeks we negotiated, remaining silent publically and working behind the scenes to attempt to ensure that this terrible horror of evolution would never come into contact with the general population of New Eden. Kuvakei fell silent a little over three weeks ago, negotiations have dried up, and I believe that our chance to make that difference and do our part has dissolved into the seemingly endless madness of Nation's attacks on the core worlds. So here I am, the inhumane, apparently notorious outlaw with no moral and ethical concerns for a living soul in the cluster, pleading to you all to unite against this menace. What you have seen, from the bravery of young and intrepid pilot Mouse Nell broadcasting images from beyond the limits of knows space is exactly what Kuvakei wants you all to see. Pay no attention to its scale. As his followers have said, you have been permitted to see what has been allowed to be broadcast by Kuvakei, nothing more. If nothing else then please believe me when I say, that this display is but a fraction of Nation's military capability, and that the eyes of Kuvakei's monstrous machine of destruction are turned on you all. On us all. In recent months we have all lost so very much, over ten million have been claimed by the relentless raids of Nation's forces into all our homeworlds. I am aware that several capsuleers have lost family and friends, myself included. My twin sister, Akora Verone, a hotriculturalist under contract to Combined Harvest was planetside under contract in Teonusude, working with a joint Gallente-Republic regeneration program when Nation came. She too, like so many of your friends and family, is lost. I realise that by revealing what I have done here, that Kuvakei may turn his eyes to me. He has already threatened punishment for revelation of his intent to use Kyonoke, and attempted to intimidate us with word of retribution should I leak this information. Veto Corp stands tall in defiance. This is a risk that I and my corporation are willing to take to make the cluster aware of what it faces, to allow it to prepare, and to ensure that every living soul is aware of the grave and dangerous path that lies ahead of us all. If Kuvakei descends upon us with all his might as punishment, then we shall fight until the end. Until the last Rage Torpedo screams from the tube of our final standing flagship. Until then, we remain passive as a corporation. We maintain the standings laid out by Gurista loyalty, and respect the will of our contractors in Venal. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.27 14:55:00 - [2] With regards to Venal, I also realise that I more than likely sacrifice my name and rank as a Gurista Loyalist for this revelation. To Korako Kosakami, to Lucash Helmatt and Achile Abraxes, to every individual with the pride to call themselves a Gurista, I say the following : I will always act in the best interests of Venal, and of the Guristas. You must all understand that while Kuvakei will attempt to manipulate and use Gurista forces to further his cause, if you allow him to become strong enough, once all the core worlds have fallen, his hungry eyes and baited breath will turn their attention to your home, to Venal. Nation is relentless, a cancer, a disease in itself that will stop at nothing to consume and assimilate everything that stands in its path. To all of you, Serpent, Angel, Caldari, Matari, Amarr, Gallente... whatever your loyalty... be aware. Darker times than this cluster have faced in thousands of years are upon us, and I offer you all this warning that Kuvakei has Kyonoke, and is preparing to use it one way or another. Perhaps he has already traded it, perhaps it has spread. Regardless, you all must know what you face in the field. Protect yourselves in any way you can. To Kuvakei : If you seek retribution, if you seek to punish, then I'll be waiting. This is between you and I, the two of us alone. Bring your finest, you'll need them. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Seriphyn Inhonores Gallente Moira. Vanguard	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:02:00 - [3] What we like to see. Let's burn 'em off the map. ------------ Luminaire General Seriphyn Inhonores [TAGMA] Federal Defence Union
Julianus Soter Gallente Moira. Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:04:00 - [4] Citizen Astur: this is what I meant. Verone, we stand ready to assist in any way feasible.
IzzyChan Naqam	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:08:00 - [5] Oh, bad move Verone. -------------------- Naqam
Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:12:00 - [6] More like, bad move Sansha. Out of all the scumbags in Eve, he had to go and pick the one who still has some morals to try and collude with. If Kuvakei let me get my hands on that Kyonoke crap, I'd be sprinkling it on Luminaire by now
Sujanra Acoma Minmatar Shadow Kitty Legion	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:16:00 - [7] The plot thickens. Next, you'll tell me he's been dead the whole time!
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:20:00 - [8] Originally by: IzzyChan Oh, bad move Verone. You've been talking the talk for years, there's nothing new here. You still need to learn to crawl, before you can walk the walk. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:29:00 - [9] Let it be known, here and now. Anyone who messes with Verone over this matter picks a fight with me as well. He might be a pirate scumbag with loose morals and terrible taste in hair colour, but goddamnit he's a pirate scumbag with loose morals and terrible taste in hair colour WHO'S MY FRIEND. This man just did the world a favour. Probably saved billions of lives. You ** with him, you ** with me, even if that means sharing his fate. -----
Sujanra Acoma Minmatar Shadow Kitty Legion	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:38:00 - [10] Here's some info on Taisy and the Kyonoke Infection, if anybody is ignorant.

Aesis Tori Gallente Moira. Vanguard	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:39:00 - [11] An honorable move Mr Verone. Thank you for bringing this information into the public eye. Moira. Vanguard will stand by your side should Kuvakei make the mistake of attacking Veto corp.
Norrin Ellis Heritage Foundation	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:40:00 - [12] I'm sorry for the loss of your sister, Mr. Verone. I have been hoping since I first heard of it that our mutual friend would succeed in the endeavor to find her and return her safely.
Akrasjel Lanate	Posted - 2010.06.27 15:41:00 - [13] Yes, Verone you made a good decision... Quote: So here I am, the inhumane, apparently notorious outlaw with no moral and ethical concerns for a living soul in the cluster, pleading to you all to unite against this menace. And that means you have somekind of morality and ethics.
Myyona Minmatar Ataraxia Pharmacies	Posted - 2010.06.27 16:08:00 - [14] The Kyonoke Infection is one of the most challenging diseases to find a cure against, but a challenge we would be foolish not to take. But due to the fact the virus is being quarantined, research has received little funding and is lacking in manpower also from our side. Hearing that the quarantine has been breached could quickly change those priorities. --- Myyona CEO, Ataraxia Pharmacies ATAP Humanitarian aid effort
Jesmine Kyriel Amarr House Kyriel Inc.	Posted - 2010.06.27 16:30:00 - [15] Seems there are pirates with at least some honor and integrity. That was a revelation to me, but a positive one in this regard. I must say, I did not expect to learn of such a thing, but then, I have mostly fought blood Raiders and Nation forces. Thank oyu for doing the right thing, at least this time, Mr. Verone. Also, you might not believe this, but I'm sorry to hear of your sister. I have a little sister too, at twelve. I can only imagine the pain. _________________________ Reformist holder, loyal to House Kyriel and the Amarrian Empire.
Gal Atan True Citizen	Posted - 2010.06.27 16:38:00 - [16] the blind leading the blind how quaint
Benjamin Shepherd Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.06.27 16:51:00 - [17] I am convinced that Nation will see its last breaths in the coming weeks. I am also heartened to see pilots of extreme opposites wanting to band together to combat this threat. I shall assist in anyway possible, and will make sure my corporation knows of this immediately.
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.06.27 16:56:00 - [18] Ethan: I am sorry for your loss. When you told me you were engaged in negotiations with Venal and Kuvakei, I thought at first you were up to something dreadfully naiive. That impression lingered until Julianus informed me about the Koyonoke situation. It didn't take much to work out who his source had to be. It is an important thing you have done, and I imagine your decision has not been without cost. For this, much respect.
Demetri Slavic Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.27 16:58:00 - [19] Even as a pirate there are some deals that make you feel rather uncomfortable. I pray that the rest of the cluster takes heed of Ethan's warning, unless everyone puts aside their petty differences and focuses on this threat, I fear we are all doomed to see days darker than any twisted nightmare we have ever imagined.
Minerva Metalaric	Posted - 2010.06.27 17:04:00 - [20] Originally by: Demetri Slavic I fear we are all doomed to see days darker than any twisted nightmare we have ever imagined. Fear is the first stage of acceptance. The path has begun, dark days are coming, that is irrefutable, untransmutable, inarguable fact. The storm is coming, the only thing left to be determined is where you are standing when it strikes.

Istvaan Shogaatsu Caldari Guiding Hand Social Club	Posted - 2010.06.27 17:09:00 - [21] So, anyone want to start taking bets on when the first Kyonoke-soaked capital ships will start ramming our homeworlds?
Sujanra Acoma Minmatar Shadow Kitty Legion	Posted - 2010.06.27 17:10:00 - [22] Something still stinks, though. Verone has a reputation as a fairly honorable scumbag. If this virus is all that vital to Kuvakei's plans, I don't see why he would even tell Verone, of all people. Even if he had bitten, how much help could Veto possibly provide? So, either the virus is much less important to Kuvakei's plans than it seems at first glance and Verone telling everyone about it is manipulation on his part, or Veto (or perhaps the Guristas themselves) have something that Kuvakei wants badly enough that he would risk this. My inclination is that the virus is a red herring.
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.06.27 17:46:00 - [23] I must admit, I do have my suspicions. Perhaps the offer was a test, the content of the offer itself irrelevant - the response being the important thing. Kuvakei wanted to test Verone, see if Ethan was a man upon which he could thoroughly rely (i.e. someone utterly devoid of moral constraints, a sense of decency, mercy, tolerance for difference of opinion or humanity). That Verone "failed" the test is a great relief, of course. Or, it could be that he wanted someone who he knew wouldn't keep his mouth shut about it - someone powerful, experienced and well-recognised that no-one would doubt that Kuvakei was telling the truth, yet someone free of all direct Sansha associations so that no-one would think it was merely propaganda. If it's indeed what he did, tricking Verone into inadvertently acting as his spokesperson gave him the absolute hardest-hitting press release he could hope for. Regardless, such conjecture is largely meaningless - if Kuvakei says he has Kyonoke, we absolutely positively cannot afford to call his bluff, whatever our suspicions about his motives. He has most likely the most deadly biological agent in the history of the known universe and given his utter lack of humanity, the only logical conclusion is that if an appropriate situation occurs, he will use it. Even more terrifyingly, he's willing to sell it. I'm also seriously concerned about this mysterious third character - this other person who Kuvakei has informed. Kuvakei seems convinced that he'd never do what Verone's just done. Was the same deal offered to him? Was it accepted? To those who question why he's trying to woo Veto to his side, I will say only this: I'm not going to go into any serious detail, out of respect for a friend and his corporation - not to mention a very serious debt I owe them - but Veto, its subsidiaries and its associates have far, far more power than almost anyone realises. To those of us who have even the slightest inkling about its true reach, it's honestly no surprise that if Kuvakei were to try this with anyone, he'd try it with Veto. -----
Arvo Katsuya Caldari Lai Dai Infinity Systems	Posted - 2010.06.27 18:06:00 - [24] Edited by: Arvo Katsuya on 27/06/2010 18:06:50 Didn't think we'd come to agreement somewhere, Mr. LeHane. I'm coming to the same conclusion here, and I would say to call his bluff. Using the virus himself wouldn't be in his motive. His Nation has always been revolved around 'saving' lives (by his own perspective), and even what he views as threats would then be converted over to his side through his brand of implants. I don't think Kuvakei would needlessly bloody his hands or create a public appearance unless there was a meaning for it. I'll give the guy that much. I'm leaning on two outcomes here: either the guy was testing Verone in some way, or he really has the virus, and is trying to use the thing as a bargining chip to get another party onto his side.
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.06.27 18:24:00 - [25] I think there's another nasty thing that people haven't considered. Regardless of what he himself does with the virus, the nature of the offer Kuvakei's making is UTTERLY TERRIFYING: The offer isn't actually to give Verone himself the virus, it's to give Verone's superiors in the Guristas the virus in exhange for Veto's loyalty. Kuvakei is essentially trying to buy up the loyalty and service of a corporation. His only mistake - literally his only mistake - was to make the offer to Verone, rather than the Rabbit. Now the offer has failed, and the only reason it failed was because Kuvakei crucially misjudged Verone's ethical outlook. It doesn't change anything, though - it only makes Kuvakei angry at Verone, and more driven to find a potential buyer with less scruples. And Verone, I'm sorry, I am so, so sorry, but I just realised what you've done. You've done something awful. You've just opened the auction on the end of the world. -----
Horatio Nately Caldari ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.06.27 18:25:00 - [26] I think the nation underestimates Veto. ---------------------------------------
Ghost Hunter True Slave Foundations	Posted - 2010.06.27 19:16:00 - [27] This is your answer to us? Perhaps it was too much to think of you a dread Guristas. No, I think that was lost a long time ago when you allied with the Angel Cartel's loyalists. I am not sure what to say to you, Verone. I can think of no words to describe what I want to convey - pathetic, pitiful, these are words that do not even begin to express the full depth of thought. Nation does not betray its allies. History has shown every time that our own allies betray us because of their irrational fear. Each and every time, they think us something we are not - they act on something that does not exist. Why would Nation betray those that have entrusted much to us when no others would? We respect our friends. You, you are trapped in the same debased propaganda that has been spawned for the last century. That much is clear to me now. I would say I am sorry you have chosen this path, but it is one you embarked on knowingly. Now live with it. ______ True Slave Foundations Overseer
Kenrailae	Posted - 2010.06.27 19:20:00 - [28] Can we shut the record off, Ghost Hunter? It gets annoying after so many repeats.
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.06.27 19:24:00 - [29] Originally by: Ghost Hunter I am not sure what to say to you, Verone. I can think of no words to describe what I want to convey - pathetic, pitiful Like the servants of the Sansha who couldn't beat a corporation half their size without a full complement of Blood Raiders backing them up? -----
Graelyn Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2010.06.27 19:57:00 - [30] Thank you, Ethan Verone. Thank you. -------

Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.27 20:20:00 - [31] Originally by: Ghost Hunter This is your answer to us? Perhaps it was too much to think of you a dread Guristas. No, I think that was lost a long time ago when you allied with the Angel Cartel's loyalists. I am not sure what to say to you, Verone. I can think of no words to describe what I want to convey - pathetic, pitiful, these are words that do not even begin to express the full depth of thought. Nation does not betray its allies. History has shown every time that our own allies betray us because of their irrational fear. Each and every time, they think us something we are not - they act on something that does not exist. Why would Nation betray those that have entrusted much to us when no others would? We respect our friends. You, you are trapped in the same debased propaganda that has been spawned for the last century. That much is clear to me now. I would say I am sorry you have chosen this path, but it is one you embarked on knowingly. Now live with it. Pathetic, pitiful? You'll have to try harder, if you'd like to offend me, Hunter. I'm not the one sucking at the teat of a malformed monstrosity like a good little peon. Your opinion of me is irrelevant, and insignificant. Continue to bark for your master like a good little puppy, and pray those tiny teeth of yours can even hope to pierce the skin you'll be facing when these people get their act together and unite against you. As for my allies? They lie in Venal, nowhere else. It's been this way for half a decade, and your weak attempts to twist my allegiance into some form of betrayal are laughable at best. I'll play no part in dancing to the tune of your master's little freak show. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
FeralShadow Black Storm Cartel The Orca Syndicate	Posted - 2010.06.27 20:30:00 - [32] Edited by: FeralShadow on 27/06/2010 20:33:17 One would think, Ghost, that if Kuvakei made his plans completely transparent to the public, we could judge for ourselves whether he had good intentions or not. How do you beat propaganda? Give it nothing to take hold of. It's dangerous, but if Nation is really the "good guys" as you all scream at us at every opportunity, then there's no reason as to why it has to be so secretive. As I've always been told, you never have to keep good intentions secret. Verone is a good man, so until we can decide for ourselves that Nation is anything but hostile, we'll be behind him and anybody else who wants to protect our way of life. Our way of life isn't perfect, but we'd rather it stay not perfect than be unable to think individually. _______________________________________________ "If you want to taste the ground, feel free to attack." - Kenshin Himura
Caellach Marellus Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari	Posted - 2010.06.27 21:02:00 - [33] Thank you Ethan. Also I hope the Nation isn't foolish enough to decend on Goinard. Far be it stupid enough to attack Veto, there are a large number of patrons of the Last Gate who won't want these toaster heads messing with their favourite drinking hole. -------------------------------------- All commentary unless explicitly stated remains the personal views of Caellach Marellus and do not necessarily represent that of his Corporation or Alliance
J4m Z Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.27 21:16:00 - [34] I've heard Nation stops at nothing to see their goals fulfilled. If Kuvakei makes good on his threats, I'll stop at nothing to defend Ethan and all my fellow Veto Corp pilots. ---- Be careful you have just entered Terrorbear stomping grounds....
Gottii Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2010.06.27 21:16:00 - [35] Well done Ethan. I'm glad you chose this path on your Walk.
Sah Phyre Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.28 00:00:00 - [36] To be proud of your CEO, what a wonderful feeling...
Corelous Alterrian Amarr Beyond Evil and Good United Star Federation	Posted - 2010.06.28 00:10:00 - [37] If anyone can out blob the Sansha it's VETO or There "Friends" Zawa's fan club. VETO has showen that Blob warfare is there forty so I say BLOB on Verone.
Gottii Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc	Posted - 2010.06.28 00:43:00 - [38] Originally by: Corelous Alterrian If anyone can out blob the Sansha it's VETO or There "Friends" Zawa's fan club. VETO has showen that Blob warfare is there forty so I say BLOB on Verone. My Gallente is a bit rusty, but I think the word you're looking for is "forte" "Forty" is a number.
Mammal Tafren Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.06.28 00:52:00 - [39] Um, this is hard to say but.... The ILF stands with Veto.
Angel Vengen Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.28 01:10:00 - [40] If I ever needed more proof that I picked the right group to fly with, this is it. Even as the "seedy underbelly" of New Eden, we have morals, and more character than most others out there. My allegiance is, has, and always will be to Verone, Veto, and all my fellow pirates. And to those that would stand against us... Well lets just say it will be fun.

Vechtor Intaki Chartered Company	Posted - 2010.06.28 03:12:00 - [41] Originally by: Mammal Tafren Um, this is hard to say but.... The ILF stands with Veto. Holly crap... According to public records all around empire, VETO. has inflicted a total loss of more than 3.8 trillion ISK on other people, most of them inocent people, victims of piracy and all kinds of harassment. According to those same records, their "favorite prey" are capsules... And ILF now stands with them? Is there any possible reality where something VETO. could do to justify neutrals standing with them, even to fight Nation forces?
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.06.28 03:21:00 - [42] Originally by: Vechtor Holly crap... According to public records all around empire, VETO. has inflicted a total loss of more than 3.8 trillion ISK on other people, most of them inocent people, victims of piracy and all kinds of harassment. According to those same records, their "favorite prey" are capsules... And ILF now stands with them? Is there any possible reality where something VETO. could do to justify neutrals standing with them, even to fight Nation forces You are aware of what Kyonoke does to a person, right? -----
Vincent Pryce Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.28 03:31:00 - [43] I stand proud with Xav in this. Fire the first shot Kuvakei, I dare you. Give me the reason to fire back and I will take vengeance upon you and your kin. For my sister, for Hikari. --
KuroiOokami	Posted - 2010.06.28 03:37:00 - [44] I think how Sansha came about the speck could be more to do with he found the second ship of the raid that took place after the quarantine, due to the reports of it not being seen since the raid it potentially could have been picked up Sansha scan systems.
Mammal Tafren Gallente Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.06.28 04:47:00 - [45] Originally by: Vechtor And ILF now stands with them? Is there any possible reality where something VETO. could do to justify neutrals standing with them, even to fight Nation forces? Sigh. Vechtor, please read my post. It is quite possible for the ILF to approve of Verone's decision here without giving general approval for the past or present behaviour of his organisation. All I ask for is a little pragmatism. Nation is the threat at hand. The ILF will meet that threat.
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.06.28 05:23:00 - [46] This one of those things that mankind prays to never have to encounter. A calamity so dire that even people who otherwise are often accompanied when described with such lovely epitaphs such as "Scum" and "Freebooter" or "Wouldn't trust farther then I could spit", blanch at the thought of this being unleashed upon the galaxy. I am proud that you had it within you to make the choice you knew was right. I am proud that I knew that you were this person all along and that one day you would finally make the choice I knew would one day be forced upon you. I am proud that we will be brothers in arms against something so vile none should be able to stand idle. This is truly the greatest threat to mankind in our lifetime. Let us end this threat. ----- results may vary
Michael Blackthorne Gallente Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.28 06:33:00 - [47] Never doubted joining Veto. Never will. And this is another reason why. To all who would stand against Verone & Veto, bring it! We stand behind our leader and our fellow pirates, always.
Katrina Bekers Gallente Mia Corp	Posted - 2010.06.28 08:33:00 - [48] I'm honestly impressed by Verone's resolution and courage, and applaud him and his group for their guts before such an aggravating menace. However, I'm quite worried at the other half of the news here. Kyonoke is not something to take lightly. It's worrisome that the viral agent escaped the Pit, and even more, that it's in the hands of a zombie madman with a deep grudge against the rest of the cluster. (I know my relationship with Guristas is not exactly a lovely one, but the one with Sansha isn't any better.) While I feel relatively safe at the encapsulated helm of my ships - from shuttles to dreadnoughts - I can't but express my concern about the well being of my many crew members, of station personnel where I'm docked and assisted in maintenance and trade duties, of workers in my dirtside extractors and processors, of POS employees taking care of my labs, structures and defenses, heck, even of stargate operators granting me freedom of movement around the cluster. Them, the machinery they diligently and skillfully operate, their training, their welfare, and their families are assets I have a deep interest in keeping away from harm. --- Kat
Dame Death Minmatar The Rising Phoenix	Posted - 2010.06.28 10:32:00 - [49] We have our diffences Ethan but you need more firepower against Nation just ask. Logs of a Brutor
La Merovingian Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.28 16:25:00 - [50] Vechtor, I'm not sure how you go about staffing your starships, but every single soul aboard my vessels are volunteers. And they know exactly what they're getting into when we undock. I pay them well for it. The same should go for every other crew of every single capsuleer-piloted starship out there. Even the slaves. Hell, I bet the slaves almost expect to die. Every single ship roaming New Eden is at the mercy and skill (or lack thereof) of it's capsuleer. Unless we encounter a vessel who's pilot has derogatory standings with Veto, and the situation allows for it, we will always offer a ransom. And we will always honor that ransom. The same cannot be said for others in New Eden. Simply destroying a vessel is typically less profitable than ransoming the vessel. To the crews of any starship that's been destroyed by our corporation(or should I say any survivors they left behind), I offer you this; Blame your captain. It was THEY who took the risk of venturing into lawless space to simply make more profit. It was THEY who carelessly threw your lives away, knowing that they were immortal. And it was THEY who failed to pay a reasonable ransom to save their ship, cargo, and crew. With such careless captains abound in New Eden, it's no wonder we've wrought such destruction. CONCORD and the other residents of New Eden have taken to calling us "Pirates" and it's a name that's grown on us. We wear it proudly. But remember this; With this title of "Pirate" you know exactly what to expect from us in an encounter. We don't hide behind the guise of neutrality. You call the destruction of ships and crews a "massacre." We call it business. However, absolutely NOTHING that Veto has done can even remotely compare to the threat we face today. This virus, this MENACE, that can be unleashed upon New Eden will devastate entire worlds. Perhaps even entire star systems. There is nothing profitable about annihilating populations by the billions. Keep this situation in perspective, New Eden. If the lawless outlaws of this galaxy are calling for a united front against such a threat, then perhaps this threat is greater than you have imagined.

Robert Kauliford Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.28 16:51:00 - [51] Robert grins I guess we just refused an offer we couldn't refuse.
Janos Saal	Posted - 2010.06.28 17:25:00 - [52] Edited by: Janos Saal on 28/06/2010 17:32:12 Originally by: La Merovingian ** is the fault of the woman, if only she wouldn't have dressed like such a ** Hmm yes please tell me more about this theory of yours.
La Merovingian Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.28 18:53:00 - [53] Originally by: Janos Saal Originally by: La Merovingian ** is the fault of the woman, if only she wouldn't have dressed like such a Hmm yes please tell me more about this theory of yours. If you really think that can only happen to women, I've got some toys I'd happily introduce to you. Besides, is it not the captain who chose to pilot their ship and crew into space where even CONCORD says is dangerous? If not Veto, then some other individual or organization could have proven my point just as well. Alas, this is not what I've come here to discuss. Originally by:** Janos Saal E: to clarify - you're a pirate. Just stand up and admit that you're extorting people. Don't try and paint it like you're providing some reasonable service to your... what do you call them - victims or customers? I believe I did admit as much. Proudly, even. My exploits are generally public knowledge. Extortion. Murder. Assault. Robbery. Black Market Trading. Kidnapping. The list is long, but there's no need to continue. I know who I am, and what I am. I do nothing without motive, Janos. The purpose of my statements earlier wasn't to debate or attempt to reason with or even justify to any of you, my actions, or those of Veto. I'm glad that many of you know of and see the things we do. It only helps to further my point; If even people like us feel the need to unify and stand against this threat, then perhaps the true gravity of this threat will be noticed by many more capsuleers who feel that none of this concerns them.
Mike Azariah	Posted - 2010.06.28 20:04:00 - [54] People, people. Let us try to stay on top of the issue before us. We are not debating the merits or demerits of Veto. We are seeing the possible start of a disaster in New Eden the likes of which has never been seen before. We are seeing enemies willing to stand side by side to face this common atrocity that faces us all. After the Nation is defeated or the lid put back on the Pandoras Box we call Kyonoke THEN we can go back to growling and name-calling. Till then all I ask is that people step up, stand up and be counted. Let the others know that siding with the Nation is going to introduce you to a whole new Universe of pain and destruction. We will set aside differences just to end you, Nation. M Till then Stand Up
Ze'ev Sinraali Ataraxia Pharmacies	Posted - 2010.06.28 20:09:00 - [55] Though I tend to think there's a decent chance he's bluffing, we really can't afford to find out. It's probably time to get to work on that Kyonoke speck research project Ashar Kor-Azor proposed at the strategic conference.
Saikoyu Amarr Rho Dynamics	Posted - 2010.06.28 20:23:00 - [56] Mr. Verone, first I will say that I am sorry that your sister was taken. The words above are not nearly enough to express my sadness, or to portray this individual vile act against the background of this greater tragedy, but they are the words that I have. Second, I thank you for opposing the Sansha Nation in this way, and I ask for a small amount more. Currently I am overseeing a research effort that will hopefully lead to the reversal of the conversion that takes an ordinary human and turns them into a True Slave. As an aside to this, I am also taking precautions against the Kyonoke Virus, including a possible inoculation or cure. If, during the course of your negotiations, any information that might help either goal was revealed to you, I would ask if you would share it with me. Thank you for your courage, and your honor. Siakoyu Eblis-Kad Rho Dynamics recruitment
Spyer O'Brian	Posted - 2010.06.28 20:28:00 - [57] If you are being transparent, I would like some questions answered in regards to these negotiations. Where are the rest of the communications? What were the terms of this deal? What were your plans for the plague? It is all well and good that you are being forthcoming with this information, but I am not sure we can really trust you without the whole of the story, not just the beginning and end.
Wedgetail	Posted - 2010.06.28 21:01:00 - [58] Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu So, anyone want to start taking bets on when the first Kyonoke-soaked capital ships will start ramming our homeworlds? Given what I know of the virus and how quickly it spreads...they won't need capital ships...
Vechtor Intaki Chartered Company	Posted - 2010.06.28 22:01:00 - [59] Originally by: Mammal Tafren Originally by: Vechtor And ILF now stands with them? Is there any possible reality where something VETO. could do to justify neutrals standing with them, even to fight Nation forces? Sigh. Vechtor, please read my post. It is quite possible for the ILF to approve of Verone's decision here without giving general approval for the past or present behaviour of his organisation. All I ask for is a little pragmatism. Nation is the threat at hand. The ILF will meet that threat. Sigh. I see. What is not clear to me is the "standing" with them part. Does that mean that while ILF works together with VETO. against nation you won't engage on any hostility against them shall they pass or move temporarily their base of operations to Intaki? Does that mean that, regarding ILF, they'll have "safe passage" there? Maybe you could enlighten me, the other corporations of Intaki, and the Intaki Assembly more on that issue, besides just sighing.
Saxon Hawke Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative	Posted - 2010.06.28 22:29:00 - [60] Originally by: Vechtor Does that mean that while ILF works together with VETO. against nation you won't engage on any hostility against them shall they pass or move temporarily their base of operations to Intaki? Does that mean that, regarding ILF, they'll have "safe passage" there? Vechtor, For someone who couldn't be bothered to remain in the ILF, you certainly do seem to be rather concerned with its operation. For old times sake, though, I'll humor you. As for the matter of the ILF "supporting" VETO, I think the choice of wording was poor, but the reasoning is sound. After the tragedy of the Ostingele terraforming operation in which 2 million souls were lost trying to create a new colony in Intaki Space and the repeated Sansha incursions into the home system, there can be little doubt that Sansha forces intend to make the Intaki part of their "nation." In my mind they pose the single most significant threat to the Intaki people in generations. The ILF will stand in opposition of Sansha forces until the last and in doing so we will honor temporary ceasefire agreements during engagements with Sansha forces as long as those agreements are honored by others. Should VETO pilots prove themselves dishonorable by makeing opportunistic attacks during or after engagements, then we will consider them as enemy combatants in all future encounters with the Sansha. Outside of Sansha encounters, we have no truce agreement with VETO and would expect their pilots to act in accordance with their widely-known rules of engagement (i.e. piracy for profit/ransom/etc.) ILF pilots will continue to operate under our current ROE.

Vechtor Intaki Chartered Company	Posted - 2010.06.28 22:39:00 - [61] Originally by: Saxon Hawke Vechtor, For someone who couldn't be bothered to remain in the ILF, you certainly do seem to be rather concerned with its operation. For old times sake, though, I'll humor you. Of course I do Mr. Hawke. I live in the same place you do. Your home is also my home and vice-versa. I can't turn my eyes blind on everything ILF do with regard to piracy and to be honest, you should continue doing so with everyone who lives there as well. Either you are an anti-piracy organization or you are not. There is no mid-logic on this issue. Originally by: Saxon Hawke As for the matter of the ILF "supporting" VETO, I think the choice of wording was poor, but the reasoning is sound. In my understanding, you are not supporting VETO., as the fight against Nation is not a VETO. fight. In my view, VETO. as a marginal band of pirates who do business on ransoming inocent people decided to support the rest of the universe fight against Nation now because their dirigent(s) have become more directly involved with it. Originally by: Saxon Hawke Outside of Sansha encounters, we have no truce agreement with VETO and would expect their pilots to act in accordance with their widely-known rules of engagement (i.e. piracy for profit/ransom/etc.) ILF pilots will continue to operate under our current ROE. Fair enough.
Rainsdon Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.29 01:03:00 - [62] We are no turn coats to the side that offers us more power, we know who we are and we know where we stand. Regardless of what many people sees us as - we are loyal, we are honourable. In the current time we are living in; Loyalty isn't sold... nor is it bought and neither is it threatened. Kuvakei can only buy loyalty with fear, he cannot earn it. Just shows you what type of person he and his Nation truly are. _________________________________________________________
Kimochi Rendar Veto.	Posted - 2010.06.29 09:05:00 - [63] You don't even need me to tell you this Ethan, but I am beind you 100%. If Kuvakei decides he wants to bring the fight to us as 'punishment' for all this, then I will fight him tooth and claw every step of the way - as I'm sure will every other pilot who wears the Veto badge. The Thoughts of an Outlaw
Eran Mintor Minmatar Ddial Chan Annwn Annwn Matari	Posted - 2010.06.29 09:14:00 - [64] So 'Veto.' wishes to announce it's hostile intentions but is waiting to unleash it's force on Kuvakei until he attacks first, or "brings the fight to us"? Have you been watching the news for the last two months? ------------------------------------------------
Nauticaa Gallente The Rising Phoenix	Posted - 2010.06.29 11:37:00 - [65] If VETO comes under Attack becuase of this you have my sword Mr Verone. I suspect your intel sorces can tell you what it is.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.29 13:18:00 - [66] Originally by: Eran Mintor So 'Veto.' wishes to announce it's hostile intentions but is waiting to unleash it's force on Kuvakei until he attacks first, or "brings the fight to us"? Have you been watching the news for the last two months? Your bitterness is always amusing, blood traitor. I'm sure that when that thick skull of yours allows you to grow a brain, you'll be able to answer you own stupid questions. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Phosphorus Palladium	Posted - 2010.06.29 13:54:00 - [67] Once a pirate, always a pirate. All that Verone wants is some good shansha loot. So he is provoking Nation so Veto gets the fight and the loot.
Demetri Slavic Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.29 15:11:00 - [68] Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium Once a pirate, always a pirate. All that Verone wants is some good shansha loot. So he is provoking Nation so Veto gets the fight and the loot. If all we wanted was loot, why not just let the sale of the Virus go ahead? We would make far more in that transaction than down this path. Then again, why would you believe in the good intentions of a pirate, right? Spits off screen in disgust as the feed cuts out
Shalee Lianne Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.29 16:36:00 - [69] You pirates are amusing. You take offense from people calling you what you are. Don't think we forget for one moment that you make your livelihood on the misery of others. You plunder, you steal, and you ransom. There is nothing 'honorable' about that. Your 'good intentions' probably boils down to the fact that you don't want people to die so you can continue to steal from them. Just saying.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.29 17:07:00 - [70] Originally by: Shalee Lianne You pirates are amusing. You take offense from people calling you what you are. Don't think we forget for one moment that you make your livelihood on the misery of others. You plunder, you steal, and you ransom. There is nothing 'honorable' about that. Your 'good intentions' probably boils down to the fact that you don't want people to die so you can continue to steal from them. Just saying. Run along back to your blood traitor lover, little girl. The adults are talking now. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<

Shalee Lianne Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.29 17:20:00 - [71] I should have pulled the trigger.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.29 17:22:00 - [72] Originally by: Shalee Lianne I should have pulled the trigger. Hindsight is always 20/20. I knew you were too weak. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Shalee Lianne Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.29 17:37:00 - [73] Don't mistake being practical for weakness, 'sweetie'. But you're right about one thing, hindsight is 20/20. If you ever step outside that little den of villainy without your guards, do let me know.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.29 17:38:00 - [74] Originally by: Shalee Lianne Don't mistake being practical for weakness, 'sweetie'. But you're right about one thing, hindsight is 20/20. If you ever step outside that little den of villainy without your guards, do let me know. I'll be sure to, darling. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Eran Mintor Minmatar Ddial Chan Annwn Annwn Matari	Posted - 2010.06.29 17:50:00 - [75] Originally by: Verone Originally by: Eran Mintor So 'Veto.' wishes to announce it's hostile intentions but is waiting to unleash it's force on Kuvakei until he attacks first, or "brings the fight to us"? Have you been watching the news for the last two months? Your bitterness is always amusing, blood traitor. I'm sure that when that thick skull of yours allows you to grow a brain, you'll be able to answer you own stupid questions. It's not bitterness, I just like pointing out fallacies when I see them. ------------------------------------------------
Shalee Lianne Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.06.29 17:51:00 - [76] What, can't commit to a date? Name it, Ethan, and I'll be there. You bring the flowers, I'll bring the gun.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.29 18:00:00 - [77] Originally by: Eran Mintor Originally by: Verone Originally by: Eran Mintor So 'Veto.' wishes to announce it's hostile intentions but is waiting to unleash it's force on Kuvakei until he attacks first, or "brings the fight to us"? Have you been watching the news for the last two months? Your bitterness is always amusing, blood traitor. I'm sure that when that thick skull of yours allows you to grow a brain, you'll be able to answer you own stupid questions. It's not bitterness, I just like pointing out fallacies when I see them. Keep telling yourself that, I hear that the feeling dulls over time. Originally by: Shalee Lianne What, can't commit to a date? Name it, Ethan, and I'll be there. You bring the flowers, I'll bring the gun. Ah, so flattering sweetheart. Don't be too angry with yourself, you'll get over this little crush you have in time. Regardless, I'm not interested in the incoherent drivel of a blood traitor, and the adolescent wailing of his probable owner. I'm done with the pair of you, as amusing as watching you both bark is. Fly safe, kids. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Eran Mintor Minmatar Ddial Chan Annwn Annwn Matari	Posted - 2010.06.29 18:03:00 - [78] Don't trip on your ego on the way out... ------------------------------------------------
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.06.30 00:41:00 - [79] I think the only thing he's going to have to worry about tripping over is all the bull***. ----- results may vary*
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.06.30 02:45:00 - [80] Originally by: Gorion Wassenar I think the only thing he's going to have to worry about tripping over is all the bull**. TouchT, old friend. Good to see you're well. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<**

Phosphorus Palladium	Posted - 2010.06.30 11:37:00 - [81] Edited by: Phosphorus Palladium on 30/06/2010 11:41:45 Originally by: Demetri Slavic Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium Once a pirate, always a pirate. All that Verone wants is some good shansha loot. So he is provoking Nation so Veto gets the fight and the loot. If all we wanted was loot, why not just let the sale of the Virus go ahead? We would make far more in that transaction than down this path. Then again, why would you believe in the good intentions of a pirate, right? Spits off screen in disgust as the feed cuts out I am an analytical mind, Demetri. I rather come to conclusions after an analysis than foster believes. It is surprising to me that my analysis angered you, as I do not see an insult in anything I said. Just as the Jove, I like to study conflict. So even though I am surprised by your reaction to my analysis, I am fascinated by your raging anger. Again, this is not meant as an insult either. Anger and emotions, while potentially clouding judgement, can also be useful in battle, if channeled correctly. Concerning the potential Sansha vs whomever war... Personally I have not picked a side yet. No matter what, the developments of late are fascinating. I do appreciate them.
Verone Gallente Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.07.04 20:56:00 - [82] Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium Edited by: Phosphorus Palladium on 30/06/2010 11:41:45 Originally by: Demetri Slavic Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium Once a pirate, always a pirate. All that Verone wants is some good shansha loot. So he is provoking Nation so Veto gets the fight and the loot. If all we wanted was loot, why not just let the sale of the Virus go ahead? We would make far more in that transaction than down this path. Then again, why would you believe in the good intentions of a pirate, right? Spits off screen in disgust as the feed cuts out I am an analytical mind, Demetri. You're a clueless idiot, that's what you are. >>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<<
Aria Jenneth Caldari Kumiho's Smile	Posted - 2010.07.04 22:05:00 - [83] Edited by: Aria Jenneth on 04/07/2010 22:08:08 Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium I am an analytical mind, Demetri. Are you really, pilot? Very well. Let's look at this analytically. Originally by: Phosphorus Palladium Once a pirate, always a pirate. This statement is based on empirical evidence, then? There's no means for, oh, say, becoming a hired killer for the empires (again)? Or a mercenary? Or an ideologically-driven terrorist? We might argue over whether any of those is a step up, exactly, Mr. Palladium, but there seems to be very little question that they are steps. Pirates take them pretty routinely. Quote: All that Verone wants is some good shansha loot. So he is provoking Nation so Veto gets the fight and the loot. Pretty sure Kuvakei has more pressing needs than taking revenge on a circle of diehard combat pilots. Pretty sure that even if he doesn't, there are better ways of approaching it than engaging Veto head-on. Pretty sure Verone knows that, too. Chances of Kuvakei turning up outside Veto's home station and challenging Ethan and company to a battle? Pretty near zero. There's not much hope of loot, here, pilot. There's just a lot of future risk-- which Ethan likely considers his preparations adequate to handle, but that doesn't mean the risk isn't there. Quote: I rather come to conclusions after an analysis than foster believes. That being the case, please feel free to explain your comments above in terms of the analysis used. Quote: It is surprising to me that my analysis angered you ... It truly shouldn't be. Quote: ... as I do not see an insult in anything I said. Which may be your most bizarre statement to date. You've seemingly portrayed pirates, as a class, as not only greedy and immoral, which is a typical assessment, but also brainless, which is ... sort of an idiot's analysis, if you'll forgive my saying so. Quote: Just as the Jove, I like to study conflict. Can you point me to a particular reason to think that the Jove especially like studying conflict, pilot? Any more than the next civilization, that is? Quote: I am fascinated by your raging anger. Capsuleers are notoriously touchy, pilot, and it seems as though pirates are, if anything, less touchy than most (if only because we get more insults than most). There seems relatively little reason either for surprise or fascination when you've spoken in such provoking terms. Quote: Again, this is not meant as an insult either. ... Okay ... Quote: Anger and emotions, while potentially clouding judgement, can also be useful in battle, if channeled correctly. Let me get this straight. You're telling Mr. Slavic, "You're (by implication, irrationally) emotional, but that's not so bad (pat, pat); I'm sure it helps you kill people?" So, I'm trying to work out-- how is this not exceedingly patronizing, hence offensive? If you did not mean this as an insult, you've nevertheless managed to deliver very much as though you did. Quote: Concerning the potential Sansha vs whomever war... Personally I have not picked a side yet. Let's see-- do you intend to retain your individual autonomy? Do you mean to continue being a capsuleer, an "heir to a mistake," as the Nation puts it? If the answer is "yes".... Quote: No matter what, the developments of late are fascinating. I do appreciate them. Yes, they are, aren't they. Can you point out to me the intellectual and analytical rigor in neutrality under circumstances that threaten your ability to exercise intellectual and analytical rigor? Of course, I'm terribly partisan in this matter. The Nation and I have been at odds since it stripped a friend of mine, one of "our" fellow scholars, of his free will. So maybe I'm not looking at this from the proper analytical angle, but ... ... claiming aloof neutrality in a conflict that eventually will include you if it proceeds doesn't seem very ... clever, to me.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.07.05 11:36:00 - [84] Veto are still our enemy, but you have earned some more respect.
Neu Bastian Minmatar Valklear Guard	Posted - 2010.07.05 15:41:00 - [85] How come every other thread these days becomes a a feast of insults and mud slinging? Sansha is knocking at the door. If I can stop shooting reclaiming crusaders to shoot at them, you can stop calling each others names. If you don't have something constructive to say, cram it. Yes Eran, you too. Quote: Neu Bastian Valklear Guard - CEO
Sonkut Minmatar The Motley Few	Posted - 2010.07.05 15:49:00 - [86] Edited by: Sonkut on 05/07/2010 15:55:17 Edited by: Sonkut on 05/07/2010 15:52:04 Good afternoon, I am but a humble spectator in most things, however I tend to notice things others do not, in this case IÆm sticking my nose in to point out some things that may be of mutual interest. The question is always where to start. So Kuvakei has offered you the Kyonoke Virus? I will point out the options and their respective effects. First, you accept his offer and take the virus, this means you would then be able to a) sell it for profit b) use it or c) destroy it in the heat of the power core of your largest ship, after making this choice you could then either stay true (and possibly spy on Kuvakei for the other nations) or turn on Kuvakei(shoot him in the back?) and join everyone else (you are a pirate after all). Your second option would be to eventually turn him down and risk being the first target of the Virus, congratulations; we may yet be celebrating Veto as a martyr corporation. What else does this mean? Today we found that Kuvakei has a Jove station and a fleet of at least 3 titans and a wagon load of other ships all guarding this station. This fleet is not significant; there are several Corporations in eve able to wipe it out alone without the 4 great nations getting involved. However itÆs also now obvious he is recruiting large corporations capable of fielding large fleets to the cause. We also know that there was a battle at said Jove station and that Nation won, This may have been the first test of the Virus, and the battle was the struggle of the last surviving Jove on the station. If this is the case Kuvakei may have a cure for the Virus so that he could loot the station for technology without trouble. Anyhow, just food for thought, I would love to jump in my Machariel and come along for the final battle but I feel I have more pressing matters to attend to. DonÆt forget to record their downfall so we can all watch KuvakeiÆs demiseà. I mean secondà. Never mind. P.S. is that fleet really everything he has or do you think itÆs a reasonable defence force for an asset of that nature? P.S.S or maybe the virus was just a bluff and thats why the initial negotiations failed, and maybe this was a ruse to make us think he has the virus when really it poses as much threat to him as to everyone else. skulks back into the shadows
Corin Nebulon eXceed Inc. HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.07.05 16:40:00 - [87] So Verone confirms that to some extend the "worst case scenario" actually isn't only possibility but a fact. Many people seem to have only little understanding, and Verone himself the least, of the consequences of his revelation. Fact is, as long as there was a possibility for Kuvakei having access to the virus, we would have considered that in our further planing. However we had no idea that the Rabbit might have been involved in this. So who is Mr. Verone actually damaging and whom is he helping? Kuvakei wanted to hire Veto. Veto's indirect pay would have been the delivery of the Virus to the Rabbit. So Verone denies the deal and releases this bit of information. However who was back stabbed ? Kuvakei? Maybe, he will have to find other pilots working for him. I guess there are enough people out there that would do that for isk. The Rabbit? If he was interested in the deal, then Verone just busted it. And with that a maybe never returning chance for profit for the Guristas. Ransoming 4 Empires and countless factions, and afterwards maybe selling all samples of the virus to people who could deal with it. A dangerous yet extremly profitable venture. Maybe all this was just to much of a hazzle for Verone and he just to lazy do play along? Or the bitter loss of his sister caused him to make this rather unintelligent decisions. In fact this could be seen as an huge advertisement for Kuvakei's plans, a busted business deal for the Rabbit and a lot more insecurity for the empires. Because Sansha doesn't seem to have big plans for the virus, why otherwise would he give it away? Now his mind might change and with that casualties will rise ... drastically.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.07.05 17:28:00 - [88] Originally by: Sonkut Kuvakei has a Jove station and a fleet of at least 3 titans and a wagon load of other ships all guarding this station. This fleet is not significant; there are several Corporations in eve able to wipe it out alone without the 4 great nations getting involved. A fleet that size wouldn't be a worry by itself, but with access to advanced technology such as the ability to create artificial wormholes it is a massive threat. A hit-and-fade force of incomparable size and mobility.
Max Dercad Minmatar Mercury Mercenaries Inc.	Posted - 2010.07.05 20:42:00 - [89] You seem to be missing one distinct possibility. As with the video feed from the Nation's wormhole - the so-called 'master' Kuvakei stated, that we see only, what he wants us to see. One has to wonder now, why the Kyonoke deal has been offered to mr. Verone - who, as Istvaan Shogaatsu so wisely observed - is known to have 'morals'. Personally I am inclined to believe, that what we are seeing now is another PR play by Kuvakei, who used Veto to inform us all about his ability to unleash Kyonoke plaque upon the cluster. One also can't fail to notice, that we didn't see any proof of Kuvaeki's claims - neither these concerning his oh-so-powerful fleet, hidden cleverly behind the drone's field of view, nor his possession of Kyonoke virus. All we really got is a low-quality video feed, one disclosed text message and ton of Kuvakei's cryptic rambling. And speaking of rambling, I am truly amazed how he managed to rally several people behind his 'cause' with it. Some capsuleers must be terribly bored nowadays...
Sophie Starsparrow Minmatar Ddial Chan Annwn Annwn Matari	Posted - 2010.07.05 21:27:00 - [90] Two things, 1- We believe whatever their motives, VETO is sincere in their desire to fight the Nation. That's good enough for us. 2- Originally by: Neu Bastian How come every other thread these days becomes a a feast of insults and mud slinging? Sansha is knocking at the door. If I can stop shooting reclaiming crusaders to shoot at them, you can stop calling each others names. If you don't have something constructive to say, cram it.

Sviw D Caldari Ataraxia Pharmacies	Posted - 2010.07.06 13:23:00 - [91] Originally by: Neu Bastian How come every other thread these days becomes a a feast of insults and mud slinging? Sansha is knocking at the door. If I can stop shooting reclaiming crusaders to shoot at them, you can stop calling each others names. If you don't have something constructive to say, cram it. Yes Eran, you too. A common trait among capsuleers, I'm afraid. The real question is if its mostly a beneficial or harmful trait. An answer to that might be coming soon if Mr. Kuvakei escalates the situation. Ms. Sviw Deeanna Psychological and Social Studies, Ataraxia Pharmacies ATAP Humanitarian aid effort
Syn Callibri Minmatar Blacklight Incorporated	Posted - 2010.07.06 17:21:00 - [92] Pirates, Privateers, smugglers, or Rothe' herders...who cares what Veto's motivations are as long as they kill Sansha Nationalists. "Dosst vlos zhah ussta ultrinnan"


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