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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:16:00 -
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DevBlog
How many PLEX will you donate and why not?
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Guilliman R
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:20:00 -
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Why would I support a country that actively promotes suppression of women.
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Seriazor
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Guilliman R
Why would I support a country that actively promotes suppression of women.
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Alara IonStorm
Agent-Orange
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Seriazor
Originally by: Guilliman R
Why would I support a country that actively promotes suppression of women.
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Nicholas Barker
Black Nova Corp
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:25:00 -
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For the west to succeed, others have to suffer.
Fact of life, get over it.
I enjoy my reliable electricity, cheap reliable food supply, and Internet.
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Barakkus
Caelestis Iudicium
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:27:00 -
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Edited by: Barakkus on 15/09/2010 18:29:01
nm :P
Originally by: CCP Dropbear
rofl
edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
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Adyny Rieph
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:37:00 -
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Just as long as nobody complains when the Taliban take over the effort and boost their numbers tenfold.
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Gorki Andropov
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:46:00 -
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...and out come the typically uninformed/borderline (or not so borderline)racist comments  
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dtyk
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:46:00 -
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Edited by: dtyk on 15/09/2010 18:47:14
Originally by: Gorki Andropov
...and out come the typically uninformed/borderline (or not so borderline)racist comments
The border is 20km that way. *points*
Originally by: Guilliman R
Why would I support a country that actively promotes suppression of women.
You know, I don't think that it's the religious leaders that are in need of aid...
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FOEHAMMER006
Macabre Votum
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:48:00 -
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What a fail move by CCP.
No, I wouldn't waste a single cent on Pakistan. Not like they would help anyone else?
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Tabitha Gnillort
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Guilliman R
Why would I support a country that actively promotes suppression of women.
Possibly because those suppressed women you obviously care so much about are now starving to death or succumbing to waterborne disease and require immediate aid. To express such 'principles' at this time is both hypocritical and counter-productive.
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Guilliman R
Gallente
Northstar Cabal
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.09.15 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: dtyk
You know, I don't think that it's the religious leaders that are in need of aid...
Throwing support at the population that supports it doesn't change anything.
So yes, I much rather have that entire country suffer until they realise it's because of their religious government. The moment they cast aside a theological government for a normal democratic one is the moment I'll support them. And it's the moment they will prosper.
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:12:00 -
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Thread cleaned. Please remain on topic. Political and religious discussions are best suited for other forums.
Zymurgist
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Lillith Starfire
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: FOEHAMMER006
What a fail move by CCP.
No, I wouldn't waste a single cent on Pakistan. Not like they would help anyone else?
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over 2,000 deaths, the destruction of over 1 million homes, and an estimated 21 million people homeless or injured
Regardless of your own personal biases and prejudices think of that in just HUMAN terms for once. And it is an ongoing problem. Besides, nobody is putting a gun to your head to donate anything. If you don't want to help, then don't but don't **** on those who do. I'd say something else but it would be too political. Suffice to say that country is suffering for helping another closer to home.
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Britney Skye
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:23:00 -
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Anyone who donates to this is a traitor. Not only will you be put on the United States terrorist watch list. But god is also going to send you to hell.
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:25:00 -
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Originally by: Britney Skye
Anyone who donates to this is a traitor. Not only will you be put on the United States terrorist watch list. But god is also going to send you to hell.
"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." (NIV, John 13:34-35)
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Hari Markkus
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:33:00 -
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I gave to the DEC appeal what seems like a long time ago. Then I bought some football memorabilia that I did not really want (well done Rangers, btw). And I sponsored the guy I am devilling to do something active.
So, I won't be buying PLEXes to donate, it does not fit in with they way I do charity.
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Doom Nightmare
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:37:00 -
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Personally I won't be giving for this one, too much money will end up in their governments hands.
I work for Accenture (consulting company), and less than a year ago their government paid us over 6 million to look into blocking facebook because a few pages were "offensive". They now turn around and say they have no emergency funding of any kind...
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Britney Skye
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:37:00 -
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Can I donate to Iranian nuclear projects. Or to Osama Bin Laden? Dude is living in a cave he can use all the money he can get.
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Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:39:00 -
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Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 15/09/2010 19:39:24
Bah, erased the comment i was responding too. Nuke this too, then.
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coolzero
Gallente
Dutch Federation Player Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: FOEHAMMER006
What a fail move by CCP.
No, I wouldn't waste a single cent on Pakistan. Not like they would help anyone else?
well that was a bit over the top.
i feel very bad what has happened over there but then again i wont donate for the simple reson that even if you donate most of the time the money never ever gets where it should be at.
to many of it are spend to pay directors and managers snd logistics so in the end there is just less then a penny left to help the people.
if you look in the case of the tsunami.... that money has still not been given to the people who need it(ive seen a lot of docu's on dutch tv just about this.)
its a shame but in the world today it seems everyone is taking a piece of the money pie and leave the people in need with still nothing.
but then again if people want to donate i still solute you for doing so.
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Akita T
Caldari
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:40:00 -
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The thread about this exact thing, live since way before CCP announced they're doing it.
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Dalmont Delantee
Gallente
Fidelis Discordia
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:51:00 -
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1) Plexes fuel my play time - don't have isk to spend on other things
2) I don't support human charities as we are the scourge of the earth, now World Wildlife Fund or even Guide Dogs for the blind (techincally a human charity I know but I always fancied a blind GF after The Mask with Cher and that guy with the funny face)
3) I'm in debt up to my eye balls due to being made redundent to climbing out of that :P
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.09.15 19:55:00 -
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I just give blood. It saves a life.
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Jim Pooley
The Bobtheminer Appreciation Society
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Posted - 2010.09.15 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
I just give blood. It saves a life.
That is a good thing, and I salute you for this.
Pakistan? Not a chance in hell of getting anything from me sorry, every penny the gullible donate will just end up wasted by management, and what is left go to the Taliban and the Pakistan government.
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Stitcher
Caldari
Lai Dai Infinity Systems
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Posted - 2010.09.15 20:11:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 15/09/2010 20:14:45
Edited by: Stitcher on 15/09/2010 20:11:47
Originally by: coolzero
well that was a bit over the top.
i feel very bad what has happened over there but then again i wont donate for the simple reson that even if you donate most of the time the money never ever gets where it should be at.
to many of it are spend to pay directors and managers snd logistics so in the end there is just less then a penny left to help the people.
if you look in the case of the tsunami.... that money has still not been given to the people who need it(ive seen a lot of docu's on dutch tv just about this.)
its a shame but in the world today it seems everyone is taking a piece of the money pie and leave the people in need with still nothing.
but then again if people want to donate i still solute you for doing so.
...how exactly do you think aid works? it's not "too bad about your house mate, bad luck. Here's a hundred quid as our way of showing support". If you hand people in crisis a wad of cash and tell them to put it to good use, most civilians wouldn't know what "good use" is - they'd budget part of it away on cigarettes and alcohol. That's true everywhere in the world, not just in developing nation disaster zones. Just handing them money is useless if there's no way for them to buy what they need.
so what you instead do is spend that same money on a few shipping containers full of these, and on logistics costs to get clothing, food, medicine, shelter and volunteers out to the area. Those things do more good, more cost-effectively.
You say that the money's being spent on logistics as if it's a bad thing, when 95% or more of humanitarian aid is logistics.
oh, and in case you think I'm being stingy with the hundred pounds example - bear in mind that we are talking about millions of households here, and even the most successful charity drives aren't going to pull together hundreds of millions of pounds. the actual budget per-person in a disaster area is much, MUCH lower than that.
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coolzero
Gallente
Dutch Federation Player Corp
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Posted - 2010.09.15 20:32:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
Edited by: Stitcher on 15/09/2010 20:14:45
Edited by: Stitcher on 15/09/2010 20:11:47
Originally by: coolzero
well that was a bit over the top.
i feel very bad what has happened over there but then again i wont donate for the simple reson that even if you donate most of the time the money never ever gets where it should be at.
to many of it are spend to pay directors and managers snd logistics so in the end there is just less then a penny left to help the people.
if you look in the case of the tsunami.... that money has still not been given to the people who need it(ive seen a lot of docu's on dutch tv just about this.)
its a shame but in the world today it seems everyone is taking a piece of the money pie and leave the people in need with still nothing.
but then again if people want to donate i still solute you for doing so.
...how exactly do you think aid works? it's not "too bad about your house mate, bad luck. Here's a hundred quid as our way of showing support". If you hand people in crisis a wad of cash and tell them to put it to good use, most civilians wouldn't know what "good use" is - they'd budget part of it away on cigarettes and alcohol. That's true everywhere in the world, not just in developing nation disaster zones. Just handing them money is useless if there's no way for them to buy what they need.
so what you instead do is spend that same money on a few shipping containers full of these, and on logistics costs to get clothing, food, medicine, shelter and volunteers out to the area. Those things do more good, more cost-effectively.
You say that the money's being spent on logistics as if it's a bad thing, when 95% or more of humanitarian aid is logistics.
oh, and in case you think I'm being stingy with the hundred pounds example - bear in mind that we are talking about millions of households here, and even the most successful charity drives aren't going to pull together hundreds of millions of pounds. the actual budget per-person in a disaster area is much, MUCH lower than that.
well i can understand logistics cost money but again there have been a lot of research done here in the netherlands and it pretty much shows that almost nothing of the help comes to the people that need it.. and even if the help gets to the destination it will be ripped off by local goverments/warlords/gangs.
so even if you find a respectable aid organisation it still wont do much when when the goods are send of to places filled with corruption(goverments) and gangs that will just take the stuff and sell it to make some cash.
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Ultim8Evil
Ministry Of Eternal Disorder
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Posted - 2010.09.15 20:36:00 -
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**** them, tbh.
If they can afford to buy AK-47s and make bombs, they can afford a mop and bucket or two.
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CCP Adida
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2010.09.15 20:47:00 -
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Removed several politically charged conversations from the thread.
Adida
Community Rep
CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Maria Holmes
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Posted - 2010.09.15 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: FOEHAMMER006
What a fail move by CCP.
No, I wouldn't waste a single cent on Pakistan. Not like they would help anyone else?
+1 , You win dear sir
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