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WoAz
Gallente Dark Mason Society
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:10:00 -
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Edited by: WoAz on 22/06/2011 23:10:24 The new icons clash with the old ones and just plain look terrible. I used to enjoy being able to differentiate between my light, medium, and large turrets, and think I was playing internet spaceships, not some terrible NES.
X if you agree
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Tiaen
Gallente Dark Mason Society Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:11:00 -
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x
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Slymah
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:12:00 -
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O
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Zuquar Bonaparte
New Dawn Corporation Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:13:00 -
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X looks like something from the old game DOOM
"primary the Freki " "ok ok but which 1!!" |
Alternate Poster
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:14:00 -
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X
Shooting with my blurry blobs of brown and grey.
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PureSoul
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:19:00 -
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x In market icons dont bad,but in space when they near the target...
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Myshella Drake
Caldari Omega Exploration And Reclaimation
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Posted - 2011.06.22 23:20:00 -
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X
They are not distinctive enough and they look like blurry crap next to your target portrait.
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Livini Naship
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:04:00 -
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i also agree that the old icons were better. now i hardly can tell what weapon it is i have there, or if it is an weapon at all.
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Th155
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:07:00 -
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x The turrets models/animations should stay as they are, but the icons need to go back to what they where before.
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Mark Hamill
Amarr Galactic Waste Management EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:10:00 -
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X
Horrid. I want the old ones back. Not that they'll ever listen. EVETycoon Marketing, trading and reprocessing tool. |
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Pneumon Blaster
Quondam Souls of the Universe corporation THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:12:00 -
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x
The new turret icons are a total fail and ******ed.
Black turret on black background FTW!
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Rafael Freeman
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:22:00 -
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They're too big for me to stick my junk in them
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Aisha Ravenwood
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:23:00 -
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There confusing to look at in hanger and when on a target they are all blurred and horrible lookin
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:25:00 -
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May I suggest that you all Petition or file a Report on this issue. This is the only way that they will listen.
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Callha Ri
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:28:00 -
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xxx
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Livini Naship
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal May I suggest that you all Petition or file a Report on this issue. This is the only way that they will listen.
thats true and: done
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Ianus
Caldari Geminus Gateway
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:54:00 -
[17]
x
Models are ok, but icons should be reverted. Salvagers & tractors also.
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Souverainiste
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Posted - 2011.06.23 07:56:00 -
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Models are awesome, but the icons.... OMG why are they so blurry anyways?
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Flynn Fetladral
Caldari BlackSite Prophecy
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:06:00 -
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The old ones look awesome and crisp due to them being original art. I'm guessing the new ones are being rendered with the new CarbonUI thing? Well it's that or someone took a screen shot, applied a clipping path and then resized the image down :-/
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Kunming
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:08:00 -
[20]
x
Lasers, blasters etc all look the same..
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Samantha Seraya
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:08:00 -
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X
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Tickle Master
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:11:00 -
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I can't tell what any of the icons are, they appear to be terrible brown and gray smudges.
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Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:12:00 -
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What are you talking about? I like throwing asteroids at my targets ... new icons look just like that.
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Doh Stupid
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:13:00 -
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-X- A total mess, I can't tell what any off them are. This game is going down the toilet.
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Rek Seven
Gallente Zandathorn Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:27:00 -
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The actual turrets are fine but the icons aren't very clear.
... But i'm sure you will get used to it so maybe stop crying as the game has bigger problems now.
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Richard Bong
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:27:00 -
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I cant tell what they are when they are active but the actual turrets on the ships look great
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Katrina Cortez
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Posted - 2011.06.23 08:27:00 -
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I'm willing to give that one some time... I think it will be ok once you get used to it.
I would have rather seen the effort put towards a jump planner or some other feature tho.
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SpargePietre Hinken
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Posted - 2011.06.23 10:22:00 -
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Freaking stupid ideea not to keep old icons!!!!
CCP fails big time.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.23 10:24:00 -
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well while many can appreciate your nearly aggressive rude form i don't.
but its viable feed-back non-then-less.
I mean black guns icons on dark background is really bad idea.
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Jaak 242
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:34:00 -
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X
I have 487 ships. Most are equipped differently. Sux to have to mouse over the slots to be able to figure out what is in them.
Strip miners are especially bad. I can't see them next to the rock icons at all on most backgrounds.
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Masjheira
Minmatar Cursed Inc. Not Found.
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:35:00 -
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x, thought this was a pre-alpha icon but it went live.
LOL
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Livini Naship
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Myfanwy Heimdal May I suggest that you all Petition or file a Report on this issue. This is the only way that they will listen.
plz write petitions for reworked icons (and all that other stuff)
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Erestas Drake
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:41:00 -
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Takes some time to get used to new shapes, however it kind of reminds me of Ultima Online. Started out with nicely hand drawn items/icons and later on used just shots of rendered items that didnt fit at all with the rest of the present items. |
Slatiska Wolfovna
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:46:00 -
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X
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.23 11:57:00 -
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Originally by: Zuquar Bonaparte X looks like something from the old game DOOM
Don't be silly. Old doom was colourful and used crisp (if low-res) pixel art. They rather look like something from Doom 3à
X, btw. The turrets are nice, but they don't make for good small-scale UI elements. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |
Shorty Loot
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:00:00 -
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my asset window lags, when i scroll down and reach the new gun icons.
lulz!
xXx
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Amon Harakht
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:05:00 -
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x - if it ain't broken.....
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Descision
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:18:00 -
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can you please change the icons next to the target to be A) brighter and B) more detailed atm its just some pixelated black mark
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Chuckles Beeshaw
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.06.23 12:32:00 -
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Edited by: Chuckles Beeshaw on 23/06/2011 12:32:36
Originally by: Flynn Fetladral Well it's that or someone took a screen shot, applied a clipping path and then resized the image down :-/
honestly man that was my first thought when i saw it. it's complete dump.
x
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Brina Strom
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:09:00 -
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x
I want my guns to look like guns
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Mikal Morataya
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Mikal Morataya on 23/06/2011 13:11:56 X - turrets in space nice, new effects nice, icons dreadful.
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Discrodia
Gallente Symbiosis International Moose Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:12:00 -
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I agree about the icons. But the skins themselves kick ass.
X
Originally by: anonymous WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
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Hiram Alexander
Caldari The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:13:00 -
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x - (bring back magnets for starters.)
Fantastic turrets, horrible icons.
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bulletdrive
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:15:00 -
[44]
X
I cant beleive someone in their right mind would look at these icons and say "yeah they are good for production, push it". The icons are 10 steps behind the old ones not to mention they all look the same. What a huge fail on something so simple...
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Humongus Bauls
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Humongus Bauls on 23/06/2011 13:25:27 Not gonna lie....I right clicked a few of the new module icons thinking they were "offline". lol
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Nullity
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:25:00 -
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Artistically, I like how they look, but they're incredibly poor for readability.
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Xaeltis
Amarr Suns Of Korhal BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.06.23 13:34:00 -
[47]
The icons lack proper anti-aliasing thus look dreadful.
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Mirabi Tiane
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:00:00 -
[48]
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Rixiu
The Inuits
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:00:00 -
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Agreed. And no it's not because they are "new" and I'm "not used to them". They look horrible, period.
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Wacktopia
Dark Side Of The Womb
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:02:00 -
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Chill, Brosefs! They're coming in Incarna 1.1
NeX > Items > Ship Items > Icons > Weapons > Turrets > Better Icons ( $99 ea )
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Mikal Morataya
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:07:00 -
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Originally by: Wacktopia Chill, Brosefs! They're coming in Incarna 1.1
NeX > Items > Ship Items > Icons > Weapons > Turrets > Better Icons ( $99 ea )
LOL
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Sarina Berghil
Minmatar New Zion Judge Advocate Yulai Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:07:00 -
[52]
X
The new ones look neat, they just dont work as icons. And icon is their main functionality.
We need to be able to 'read' them clearly, not gaze upon them as art.
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Fi1ippo
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:12:00 -
[53]
Originally by: WoAz Edited by: WoAz on 22/06/2011 23:10:24 The new icons clash with the old ones and just plain look terrible. I used to enjoy being able to differentiate between my light, medium, and large turrets, and think I was playing internet spaceships, not some terrible NES.
X if you agree
Are you really that brain dead?
"The man behind the mask is a Maverik Letting off buck-ten shots for the hat trick."
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mirabi Tiane http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/5723/20110622053324.png
pretty much this^ My eyes are bleeding when i see this tiny renders on dark space. Maybe this was cool when this was only idea, but in reality icons make my eyes bleeding I have 100% eyesight but can barely see this icons and I can only imagine how people in glasses feel like. Easy solution - temporary bring back old icons, then draw new ones in vector with contrast colors.
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Ana Vyr
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.23 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Ana Vyr on 23/06/2011 14:16:14 I found strip miners to be really bad. Next to the targetted rock, the icon looks like a grey smudge.
The lasers themselves though were OMG cool looking.
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Pandadora
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Posted - 2011.06.23 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: Myshella Drake X
They are not distinctive enough and they look like blurry crap next to your target portrait.
+1
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.06.23 15:09:00 -
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Very true, now there's almost no difference between a small gun, a large gun, a tractor beam and a salvager.
X ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation. |
Inspiration
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Posted - 2011.06.23 15:12:00 -
[58]
X
The new icons do not relay any information to the player other then some form of turd is being thrown at this particular enemy ship.
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Endymi Typhirr
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:04:00 -
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x
Originally by: Sarina Berghil X
The new ones look neat, they just dont work as icons. And icon is their main functionality.
We need to be able to 'read' them clearly, not gaze upon them as art.
Exactly. CCP needs to design proper icons for this.
-- The "Concord LP" Channel (old forum, new forum) |
Endymi Typhirr
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Posted - 2011.06.23 16:06:00 -
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Originally by: Mirabi Tiane
How did this get past the quality control/assurance department? How did this get past the janitor?
-- The "Concord LP" Channel (old forum, new forum) |
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Gnean Tyrova
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Posted - 2011.06.26 14:30:00 -
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Edited by: Gnean Tyrova on 26/06/2011 14:30:43 x
Bring back the old icons please. Possibly even the old graphics, but I will admit the new guns are alot more interesting.
Regardless, the old icons need to be back ( or I'll start trying to use salvagers and tractor beams on NPCs -_- ) |
Suboran
Gallente Best Path Inc. Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.26 14:43:00 -
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X mroe than 100% agree, no need to change the old icons that were pretty much iconic. 1400mm arty looks like a brown potato popper now.
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Zel Nughat
Amarr Nughat Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.26 14:50:00 -
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X agree completely, icons are fubar, most of them have the same range of colors, now by looking at a locked target and asigning turrets to it, you can't tell what it is that you asigned at a glance, and the icons to the side of the target are oversized and blurred by it -------------------------------------------
The moon is a terrible mistress... ...who walks the night with demons of dread. |
Ben Fenix
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.26 14:55:00 -
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Edited by: Ben Fenix on 26/06/2011 14:55:52 X
Makes me wonder if they had seen them before they have implemented them. The icons look like 8bit sprites. Terrible. They almost all look the same. __________________________________ Space is massive. Humanity is not. |
Nasty Nigel
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Posted - 2011.06.26 14:58:00 -
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x new effects are cool new icons are crap
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Prince of Nigeria
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Posted - 2011.06.26 14:59:00 -
[66]
New turrets? ****ing awesome. I love them.
New icons? Ow, my eyes.
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Portmanteau
Gallente CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.26 14:59:00 -
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x yes the icons sux donkey **** but they look ok on the ships Turbefield for CEO
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The Old Chap
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Posted - 2011.06.26 15:00:00 -
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X
Yet another example of over-development of something that was fine before. A waste of dev time and effort, definately a missed opportunity to fix something else that could have been worthwhile, like a new ship.
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Iluminat
Minmatar Sharp Dressed Man
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Posted - 2011.06.26 15:00:00 -
[69]
x
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ChYph3r
Multiplex Gaming
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Posted - 2011.06.26 15:01:00 -
[70]
X
I love how auto cannons are always spinning! -------------------------------------------------- CCP Greed best Greed!
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Synistar Torr
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Posted - 2011.06.26 16:30:00 -
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And to color the turrets black.... So my target is in space. Did you know that CCP ? And what color is most of space ? Black you say ? Wow, very good. How well DOES BLACK ON BLACK SHOW ? Did you even ****ing look at it before you introduced it ? Whoever colored the new turret icons, you should be fired. You flat out suck at your job. You are a con man for getting hired at CCP and CCP you are even stupider for allow this dumbass to work for you. Oh ya, I can't tell the difference between my tractor beams and salvagers. What's that you say ? You can't either so we'll fix it by putting a white diamond on it ? haahahahahahahahahahahaa Fail again you lazy ..... Admit you screwed up and fix the turret icons please.
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Trader Billie
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Posted - 2011.06.26 16:40:00 -
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You know i actually agree. I like the new turrets, however I hate the icons for them there very dark and hard to see when active. I can hardly see them when i'm mining cant tell what rock i'm mining without squinting. but other than that i do like the new turrets.
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Julien Brellier
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Posted - 2011.06.26 16:45:00 -
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The new turrets themselves rock. Great animations and in keeping with the character of each of the races.
The new icons SUCK. It's virtually impossible to tell what is what and what turret you have activated on which target. Either give us the old icons back or make the new ones better definined rather than just an amourphous blob thumbnail of the turret itself
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Komen
Gallente The Night Crew
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Posted - 2011.06.26 16:49:00 -
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X
The turrets themselves look great.
The turret icons in the UI are barely distinguishable blobs of color. The old icons were clearly distinguished and brilliant. Please return to those.
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Mira Stargazer
Caldari Epic Warfare
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Posted - 2011.06.29 21:17:00 -
[75]
X - I can't even tell salvagers from tractors anymore
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Tau Prime
Black Barrel Black Habitat
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Posted - 2011.06.29 21:19:00 -
[76]
xxx ================================================ Prior Proper Planning Prevents **** Poor Performance |
Mulm
Minmatar Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.06.29 22:04:00 -
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Yes, the icons are absolutely terrible, they are all black/brown/grey blobs.
What the hell were they thinking.
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Leon Razor
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.29 23:49:00 -
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Raised this concern in the original feedback thread. New icons need to be much crisper.
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Enna Shendara
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Posted - 2011.06.30 00:03:00 -
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The old icons were fine. Like someone said, they were original art. Icons should be stylised, and easily recognisable. Its not important that they look similar to the turret models, what matters is that I can tell what they are at a glance.
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Cletus Graeme
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.06.30 02:41:00 -
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Edited by: Cletus Graeme on 30/06/2011 02:42:02 I love the new turrets & also like the fact that they don't reveal themselves until you actually fire - which makes it impossible to know what people have fitted until they actually shoot at you - a nice stealth nerf right there!.
The icons, however, are horrible. Too dark and difficult to identify. Either make them a lot clearer or bring back the old ones.
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Cornullus Rage
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Posted - 2011.06.30 02:46:00 -
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dark gun icon on an outer space background. yeah, that is a bad idea.
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Terminal Insanity
Minmatar Convex Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.30 02:48:00 -
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the icons need to be made brighter, i swear every time i see my Autocannons i think they're offlined
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.30 02:51:00 -
[83]
Yes, they suck. But this is the kind of suck I've grown to expect and accept from CCP.
CCP, please return to sucking like this again.
The suck is too damn high!
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:03:00 -
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I agree totally whit this tread.
New turrets are amazing, just what we have been waiting for! Job Well Done!!!
The icons... TERRIBAD! Did the testers even try racking up a Battleship with some different highslot items and then using the icons???
The main purpose of an icon is to be instantly recognizable at a glance (and to look different to the on its next to)!!!!!
What was wrong with the old ones??????
--- Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum I can tell you that this is one of the moments when we look at what those at CCP will do and less of what they say. |
Sha Dar
eXceed Inc. No Holes Barred
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:14:00 -
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:31:00 -
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Originally by: Rixiu Agreed. And no it's not because they are "new" and I'm "not used to them". They look horrible, period.
Typically I would tell someone this. However in this case, they are just really hard to see.
+1 or X w/e
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ninjaholic
House Aratus Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:33:00 -
[87]
X
WHAT THE HELL ARE ÇÇP DOING TO THE GAME?
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buck herrick
SS-20
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:36:00 -
[88]
X
fully agree. even with my shiney new monocle i am unable to distinguish between tractor, salvager.
fix this or i will give my monocle to a peasant
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Anna Maziarczyk
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Posted - 2011.06.30 03:52:00 -
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Give the ICON guy a break. Its not like he was given much time to do the stupid icons. They were basically created in 2 days by 1 person. The first batch looked even worse. And so they got scrapped.
YOU try doing a whole set of icons for an MMORPG in 2 days... ALL BY YOUR FRICKEN SELF.
Its not as easy as it looks.
The old ones should filter down to Perpetuum within a couple months. If you like those ones so much, then go play Perpetuum. Either way works for US.
Now calm down .... The ones we have set aside for the NEX are WAY BETTER. Im talking to management and it looks like we might sell them for HALF of what they were originaly going to sell for. But you didn't hear that from me.
$99 is just way too much... for a pack of icons, in a set of 30 packs.
I would suggest ONLY buying the sets you need. Don't get juiced for all your money over ICONS......
Greed is Good.
$1000 Jeans.
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Evenus Battuta
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Posted - 2011.06.30 04:56:00 -
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ôThe first principle of icon is that they must be clear and easy to recognizeö I learnt this when I was in elementary school ,really.
But CCP are making far too many mistakes at this level than you can afford to pay attention to. Seems no choice rather than just go with it.
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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Amarr Divine Power.
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:10:00 -
[91]
X
why did ccp thing it was cool to put black icons all over a game with mostly black backgrounds?
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PDS001Sniper
Caldari Dear Old Loong Man
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:26:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Xaeltis The icons lack proper anti-aliasing thus look dreadful.
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Jagga Spikes
Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:28:00 -
[93]
x pixel art ftw ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon." |
Ralon Perin
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:34:00 -
[94]
I agree the old icons were better. The new one are to dark and hard to differentiate from each other.
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ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:36:00 -
[95]
X
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Two years from now --> Gamer: "CCP? Never heard of it." |
Hilmler Fudd
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:49:00 -
[96]
DO NOT FRET CHILDREN, CCP WILL NO DOUBT GET ROUND TO FIXING THE HORRIBLE NEW TURRET ICONS IN THE SUMMER 2015 EXPANSION.
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Xydonus Xavior
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:54:00 -
[97]
I wouldn't have mind if they polished up the icons and made them look more graphically pleasing. But changing the icons to something that nobody can differentiate from what it was originally is just daft.
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Spyres
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Posted - 2011.06.30 05:57:00 -
[98]
X - as a reference for redesign, just look at the rig icons |
RC Denton
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Posted - 2011.06.30 06:05:00 -
[99]
+1 the turrets themselves look great, but the icons stink
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.30 06:12:00 -
[100]
I agree, the turrets are quite good, the icons are unreadable.
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Lexxxii
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Posted - 2011.06.30 06:16:00 -
[101]
They are awful
Obviously no one from CCP actually played the game with these icons before release, or they would never had let them be deployed.
A worry, but not in the least bit surprising
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Terianna Eri
Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2011.06.30 06:34:00 -
[102]
+1 new icons suck ________________
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Genie ExTS
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2011.06.30 06:39:00 -
[103]
!x!
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Kiran
Minmatar Knights of Azrael
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Posted - 2011.06.30 06:43:00 -
[104]
X I find it difficult to see if my guns are shooting at the correct target as I cant see the icon on the background to space. The icon is a dull brown/black and space is well in places a dull brown/black.
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Siwena
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Posted - 2011.06.30 06:52:00 -
[105]
I really like the new gun icons |
Spengler
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:43:00 -
[106]
(X) New turret icons really suck!
Noticed in a blink of an eye ..., too dark, too black, too blob, lesser contrast, look bad, not distinguishable! Everything the old icons possessed was removed. Good work CCP! ... don't you have to fix (real) bugs? Please bring back the old icons.
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Jane Vyre
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:45:00 -
[107]
honnestly of all the cluster **** that we had I think these turret icons are the worst addition to this game in this expansion. I cannot keep them apart at all, while with he old icons in one look I could see what type of gun it was and what size.
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Neqa'el Uphir
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:47:00 -
[108]
Yes, they suck ass. However this is the least annoying thing in Incarna. Yes, that is absurd.
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:47:00 -
[109]
It would have been far better to update the actual turret models and animations, and just dress up and keep the old UI icons that were easily recognisable by everyone.
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW <<< |
Meg Smith
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:48:00 -
[110]
Too dark and too small when on the ship.
Can't tell what I've got on the ship anymore.
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Hikari Kasenumi
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:49:00 -
[111]
Yeah +1 for changing the icons.
I don't think they'd be too bad if they were just visible.
Try upping the lighting in whatever program you use to render the things and just make another batch.
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LadyBreak
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:52:00 -
[112]
x .. they are terrible
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente Malevolence. Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:53:00 -
[113]
I haven't tried them all, but black artillery icon on black space...yeah not a good choice They're also a little on the large side to fit in the buttons.
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Skippermonkey
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:54:00 -
[114]
X
the new turret models themselves are excellent, but i dont think we need new module icons, please roll them back to what they were pre-update. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - EVE: TESTING GROUNDS FOR WoD & DUST SINCE 2011 |
Baraka Saibot
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:54:00 -
[115]
New icons please.
Oh and colour code the background of them. F1 Red, F2 Blue etc.
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.07.05 13:58:00 -
[116]
Well, I did fire off a petition and I have received two responses.
1. Clear your cache. 2. This is not a GM issue. Please notify the devs within the correct forum.
Talk about a Jobsworth reply...
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Cebraio
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:00:00 -
[117]
X
I like the new icons in station. I think it's just a matter of time until we get used to identify the different turrets.
BUT the new in-space icons are just awful unidentifiable rocks! What were you thinking @ graphics dept.??
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Roger Millhouse
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:02:00 -
[118]
x!
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jx3p
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:04:00 -
[119]
Reminds me of DAOC when they added in all new icons and everyone went mad for the old ones. Mythic responded with an optional download to bring back the old ones, can CCP do the same?
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Zag'mar Jurkar
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:06:00 -
[120]
X Before I used to difference them by the icons, now it is unfeasible due to all of them looking like each others.
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Yawii
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:08:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Verone
It would have been far better to update the actual turret models and animations, and just dress up and keep the old UI icons that were easily recognisable by everyone.
+1
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:10:00 -
[122]
x
But I'll call it now, this will remain as is for months if not years.
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:10:00 -
[123]
Thank god I sold all my toons who use turrets.
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Ana Vyr
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:14:00 -
[124]
Agreed, the new icons are pretty lame. The ice miner icons on my Mac look like black and grey smudges.
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Valari Nala Zena
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:15:00 -
[125]
X
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Ydnari
Gallente Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:19:00 -
[126]
x
The old icons were stylised, relatively simple, brightly coloured, and distinctive.
These... aren't.
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James Vayne
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Posted - 2011.07.05 14:20:00 -
[127]
X
the new icons are nothing more than a still render of the model that isn't even antialiased.
In short, they were too lazy to paint new portraits for the icons.
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Sragir
Kshatriyas
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:02:00 -
[128]
X
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Isabelle Evotori
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:27:00 -
[129]
X
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Lucius Vindictus
Amarr East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:30:00 -
[130]
Really? I hated the old ones that looked nothing like the guns they represented. The new ones look pretty good, and we'll get used to them soon enough...
Logs |
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Yvan Ratamnim
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:33:00 -
[131]
x
but its not that the guns on button sucks its that u cant see them well enough on the old round buttons to make them work well...
they need to change the interface with better buttons with proper images you can see, right now grayish guns on gray buttons = fail
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Sith LordXXX
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:38:00 -
[132]
Originally by: WoAz Edited by: WoAz on 24/06/2011 05:14:15 Edited by: WoAz on 22/06/2011 23:10:24 The new icons clash with the old ones and just look plain terrible. I used to enjoy being able to differentiate between my light, medium, and large turrets. I like to think I'm playing with futuristic spaceships, not some terrible NES.
X if you agree
Your face looks terrible!
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Antraman
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:52:00 -
[133]
X!
They look awful, and are completely useless as icons because you can't distinguish between any of the module types like you could before. Salvagers, miners, tractors, and turrest, all the same, dull black/dark grey blob on a dark background.
What were whoever thought this up thinking when they decided to change the icon designs?
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2011.07.06 14:56:00 -
[134]
I can't even see the turret icon next to a target icon, unless I swing my view around so a bright nebula is in the background. Or turn up gamma so high that other display problems come to the fore.
Against empty space, they are invisible to me. It's almost as game-breaking as the lack of ship bonuses.
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Spc One
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.06 15:30:00 -
[135]
I agree. I think they should have kept the only icons and add a new turrets to ships and 3D view.
____________________________________________________________________________ Angel 0/A |
Prime
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Posted - 2011.07.06 15:30:00 -
[136]
I agree,
The new turret ICONS SUCK :(
The new turrets in game, are fairly decent... (outside of sound issues)
CCP, pls fix this kthx bye
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Agent 42
Gallente RADIO RAMPAGE
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Posted - 2011.07.06 15:35:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Agent 42 on 06/07/2011 15:36:36 They're well drawn but they're way too dark. Even just adding a colour coded background would help a lot. Yellow for lasers, Green for Hybrids, blue for missiles, rustic for projectiles.
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.07.06 15:42:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Rasz Lin on 06/07/2011 15:43:47
Originally by: Agent 42 Edited by: Agent 42 on 06/07/2011 15:36:36 They're well drawn but they're way too dark. Even just adding a colour coded background would help a lot. Yellow for lasers, Green for Hybrids, blue for missiles, rustic for projectiles.
-they are color coded -they are NOT drawn, they are renders, straight from 3D program, thats why they look like anal fluid
Originally by: Antraman What were whoever thought this up thinking when they decided to change the icon designs?
"It took me 3 hours to render this garbage, cant waste all that time, going into the game!"
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WhyTry1
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.07.06 15:43:00 -
[139]
can someone just explain why this was done please?
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Garondal
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Posted - 2011.07.06 15:57:00 -
[140]
x
Black turrets on black background is crazy.
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Emerson Mininati
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Posted - 2011.07.06 16:11:00 -
[141]
The TURRETS look horrible. The animations and turret effects are fine, but the actual turrets? No
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Obax Bannon
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Posted - 2011.07.06 16:15:00 -
[142]
x - they look terrible, just meaningless grey blobs, my 5 year old could do better with his crayons
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Darq Vixen
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Posted - 2011.07.06 16:29:00 -
[143]
X
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Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc. Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.07.06 17:21:00 -
[144]
X
The turrets themselves and the animations are great, but the old icons need to make a return or new ones should be made to fit in with the current module icon style. All module icons have a "sketched" feel, sort of drawn with enhanced colour so they're distinguishable in the hangar and on the UI - example shown:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images_icons/iconID_379_grey.jpg
Tbh, i'd be really happy if they just rolled back to the exact same old turret icons - they don't need to be re-made!
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Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.07.06 17:22:00 -
[145]
ZOMG CHANGE NOOOOOOO
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.06 17:26:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Ezra Vouland ZOMG CHANGE DETERIORATION NOOOOOOO
Fixed. Change is not inherently a good thing, and it's not change people are complaining about. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |
Thresh Avery
Best Path Inc. Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.07.06 17:32:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Ezra Vouland ZOMG CHANGE DETERIORATION NOOOOOOO
Fixed. Change is not inherently a good thing, and it's not change people are complaining about.
That ought to put the troll back under the bridge.
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Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.07.06 17:55:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Thresh Avery
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Ezra Vouland ZOMG CHANGE DETERIORATION NOOOOOOO
Fixed. Change is not inherently a good thing, and it's not change people are complaining about.
That ought to put the troll back under the bridge.
Funny the icons dont take anything away from me shooting you
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:00:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Ezra Vouland Funny the icons dont take anything away from me shooting you
No, but they do take away from the clarity, accessibility and usability of the UIà
àand the UI isn't scoring all that high in those areas as it is, so even a rather small loss becomes a pretty large blow, relatively speaking. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |
Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:02:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Ezra Vouland Funny the icons dont take anything away from me shooting you
No, but they do take away from the clarity, accessibility and usability of the UIà
àand the UI isn't scoring all that high in those areas as it is, so even a rather small loss becomes a pretty large blow, relatively speaking.
If you don't know what your guns are shooting, you are doing it wrong.
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J Kunjeh
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:04:00 -
[151]
The new icons definitely need some work. They're not very distinct at all anymore, and difficult to differentiate. ~Gnosis~ |
Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:12:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Ezra Vouland If you don't know what your guns are shooting, you are doing it wrong.
àexcept that the icons are used for more than just shooting. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |
Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:14:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Ezra Vouland If you don't know what your guns are shooting, you are doing it wrong.
àexcept that the icons are used for more than just shooting.
Still doing it wrong
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:26:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Ezra Vouland Still doing it wrong
Irrelevant. Your way ≠ the only way, everyone's way, or the best way. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |
Black Dranzer
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:27:00 -
[155]
X.
The turrets themselves are beautiful, the best feature of Incarna. Unfortunately, the icons are a blurry mess. At least run a sharpen filter over the icons or something.
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Ingvar Angst
Amarr Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:51:00 -
[156]
The icons? Yeah, true... a lot more difficult to look at and know what it is. I have to "x" here.
There is no monocle. |
BoBoZoBo
The Wyld Hunt Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.07.06 18:53:00 -
[157]
X - They suck =========================
Minister of Propaganda - Operator 9 |
Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.06 19:52:00 -
[158]
Compareà
These are the large variants against simple and cluttered backgrounds of various brightness, and the old icons are consistently more distinguishable, identifiable, clear andà wellà iconic. Reduce the sizes and the difference becomes even more pronounced.
ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
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Posted - 2011.07.06 19:56:00 -
[159]
X
Dear sirs,
we regret to inform you that your new icons absolutely SUCK! ---
Originally by: CCP Greyscale Is the Nighthawk actually underpowered?
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War Porcyka
Hamster Holding Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.06 19:56:00 -
[160]
I need to agree, the effect's are OK, but the icons are horrible. Get back them to the original form (including salvager, tractor beam)
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Skex Relbore
Gallente Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.06 20:00:00 -
[161]
The Icons are total fail. This reminds me of when Sony decided to update the spell icons they went from nice easily identified stylized representations to highly detailed pictures that probably looked great if blown up to full screen size but were just multicolored blobs in the UI. They were so awful that the first thing I did was figure out how to get the old ones back.
That isn't an option here where the UI isn't modifiable.
As to the actual models, I haven't really looked at all of them yet but the small auto's just look wrong. They are way over-sized and it's they just don't match the style of the old ship artwork.
I have to agree with those asking wth hell were they thinking. With all the things this game needed to spend the time and resources to redesign something that worked perfectly fine.
I mean I get it that the art guys aren't going to be re-balancing hybrids but they could have been redoing some ship models like the making the Imicus somewhat less repellent looking.
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Ataxio
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Posted - 2011.07.06 20:01:00 -
[162]
While I'm all for new icons and spiffing up the UI in any way possible, Some of the new icons are downright ugly and in dire need of tweaking. Specifically the laser turrets appear to me as disfigured blobs of brown plastic & fuzzy/blurry textures.
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Wirrtuell
Caldari Rennfeuer Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.06 20:06:00 -
[163]
x
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2011.07.06 20:07:00 -
[164]
x
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Jack Mancetti
Minmatar Rennfeuer Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.06 20:08:00 -
[165]
X Design need a revision in 2D gfx please
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.06 21:31:00 -
[166]
X - Old turret icons were more clear. New ones are too dark and blurry. --- This is one of the moments where we look at what CCP does and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change |
Cat IntheBox
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Posted - 2011.07.06 21:38:00 -
[167]
How funny. The stuff you actually need to look at in critical moments got ruined, and the so did the time critical stuff involved with the Hangar UI.
I mean what in the HELL
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Ivan Callisto
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Posted - 2011.07.06 21:47:00 -
[168]
X
While I love the new 3D turrets, I really HATE the new HUD icons. It's actually the most disturbing thing of all in Incarna IMHO.
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Mara Rinn
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Posted - 2011.07.07 07:30:00 -
[169]
x
Dear CCP: weapon icons, not weapon portraits. There is a difference.
Sure, have the item in the hangar look like the turret that will be attached to the ship. Icons on the HUD (ie: buttons we press and the little icon up next to the target we're shooting at) should be high contrast, low bandwidth. Ideally, one- or two-bit bandwidth :)
[ Australian players join channel ANZAC ] |
flank steak
Caldari Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors 0ccupational Hazzard
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Posted - 2011.07.07 07:38:00 -
[170]
Sigh... You learned to recognize the icons once you can do it again! Things can change people!
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Lord Kreza
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Posted - 2011.07.07 07:40:00 -
[171]
x
The new icons are terrible, you can barely make out what they are, very annoying.
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Jose Black
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.07 07:42:00 -
[172]
X
I used to rotate my camera for best viewing angle on the battlefield. Now I'm looking for bright spots to be able to see the turrets icons .
Also funny how people keep discussing with Tippia thinking they're right. That happens maybe once a year, so totally not worth the time.
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Yarrrrrhh
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Posted - 2011.07.07 07:43:00 -
[173]
CCP - fearlessly fixing **** that's not broken since 2004.
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 08:19:00 -
[174]
X
cant see wft is what, if I was playing the game regularly anymore I'd be pi$$ed.
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.07 08:34:00 -
[175]
Originally by: flank steak Sigh... You learned to recognize the icons once you can do it again! Things can change people!
It's not about recognition (although, on that topic, the number of things you have to recognize has increased sixfold, so even that one is ever so slightly debatableà), but about clarity.
When you create a "fire escape this way" sign, you don't take a photo of someone running away from a fire, pointing his arms in the direction of the door you want people to go through because that is not an effective way to communicate the message. Instead, you have a highly simplified image of a fire, a running stick-figure, and an arrow, on a plain but eye-catching background, which together gives you the message "fire? run! over there →".
Icons do their job far better if they are simple graphical representations than an exact image of the thing they're meant to represent. Icons also do their job far better if they can stand out against cluttered backgrounds. Icons do their job even better if they can stand up to a dynamic environment, where they get contrasted against a number of different colours and patterns.
The old icons did all of that, because they were actual icons. The new ones do none of that, because they aren't icons.
They're very pretty pictures that kind-of-work as illustrations against a simple, bright background, and if that's your purpose, they might have some use. They have absolutely no place in a UI set against a technicolour space background. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |
Kitty Meow
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Posted - 2011.07.07 09:16:00 -
[176]
X Agree.
The turret icons certainly do need improvement. At the moment they are simply blurry.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 09:19:00 -
[177]
Edited by: Venkul Mul on 07/07/2011 09:22:33
x
Originally by: Tippia Compareà
Wonderful demonstration Tippia. Tanks.
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Fer DeLance
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Posted - 2011.07.07 11:25:00 -
[178]
x
I can not tell what turret i am seeing anymore...
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Raven Aldura
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Posted - 2011.07.07 11:35:00 -
[179]
As usual the eve community jumping all over CCP for trying to make the gam....No, no wait. These icons do suck. Carry on then.
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Shasz
Royal Black Watch Highlanders Warped Aggression
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Posted - 2011.07.07 11:42:00 -
[180]
+1 X for crappy gun icons.
The contrast on some is so poor you can't see what target you've activated a turret on, and they all look terrible when shrunk down so small. It's like the art team got lazy and just scaled down a rendering of the turret and called it a day.
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Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
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Posted - 2011.07.07 11:46:00 -
[181]
x -
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 11:53:00 -
[182]
X
Yeah the old ones were much better.
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Rommiee
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Posted - 2011.07.07 12:02:00 -
[183]
Awful....just different shaped grey blobs.
Didn't any Devs's actually play the game while these were in testing. it would take anyone with half an eye 10 seconds to see that they were crap. These should never have got out of the testing environment.
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Cashcow Golden Goose
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Posted - 2011.07.07 12:19:00 -
[184]
Anybody know a way to put old icons in the cache or something to replace the nasty renders of the terrible turrets?
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helmut cheddar
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Posted - 2011.07.07 12:30:00 -
[185]
Edited by: helmut cheddar on 07/07/2011 12:32:10 x they stink, they are fuzzy indistinguishable blobs that just make pew pew harder and less fun. Also Icons by their nature are (or should be) iconic, the old icons have become almost inseparable from eve lore, why do CCP insist on making eve less and less like eve ?? I am srsly getting fed up with CCP replacing good unbroken stuff with sh!t and leaving completely broken stuff to fester
Hands of the warp scram icon... I mean really... keep ur useless interfering hands off !!
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Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2011.07.07 12:40:00 -
[186]
x
I can't play the game in this state. I cannot distinguish turret icons against black space. If I turn up gamma to compensate, the nebulas become extra garish and then I can't see many UI elements against that.
Not everyone is 20 years old with perfect vision.
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Portmanteau
Gallente CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.07.07 13:11:00 -
[187]
has anyone else tried to put turrets online in the fitting screen only to find out they are online they are just incredibly dull to everything else... expecting tears in the future.
Pls CCP. just put them back how they were
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Darkside007
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Posted - 2011.07.07 13:15:00 -
[188]
X
Old turrets actually looked like guns. New turrets look like salvage. |
Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.07 13:21:00 -
[189]
Honestly, new turret icons look like black turds. Change em back already.
+1
-- "All your monies AUR belong to us." -- CCP |
Ghengis Tia
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Posted - 2011.07.07 13:38:00 -
[190]
What's next CCP? Little circles with "425mm 'Scout' A/C" cut and pasted from Word? I've given you guys the benefit of the doubt for the past 18 months, but anymore I realize that you've given up on Eve. Well, dudes, so have I....
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:00:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Shasz It's like the art team got lazy and just scaled down a rendering of the turret and called it a day.
àand the funny thing is that, had they been even lazier and just left the icons alone, it would have yielded better results. ùùù ôWe want to try this thing called micro-transactions, but we don't know what it is. Can anyone explainà aw screw it, let's just do it! What could go wrong?ö ù ÇÇP |
Night Epoch
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:13:00 -
[192]
x
the turrets themselves look cool, the icons look like they were thrown together in 10 minutes by an amateur.
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Elder Man
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:26:00 -
[193]
xxxxx
Horrible,
Can hardly tell one thing from another. What's with all this game slow down crap. I thought CCP was going to "NEED FOR SPEED" things up. FFS CCP Elder Man |
Reilly Duvolle
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Posted - 2011.07.07 18:50:00 -
[194]
xxx. yes they are that bad
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Barakkus
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Posted - 2011.07.07 19:48:00 -
[195]
The problem with the icons is they tried to put too much detail and sized them down which blurred everything to a mess from what it looks like. If you look at the market icon, it doesn't look so bad, but when you shrink it to hud size, it's almost impossible to tell what it is.
It's rather hard to distinguish anything anymore. I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what's a salvager and what's a tractor beam on my Noctis now. At the size they are in the hud, they look almost exactly the same. - [SERVICE] Corp Standings For POS anchoring |
stoicfaux
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.07 20:12:00 -
[196]
X
The new detailed turrets look like mud when scaled down to button icons or as icons on the fitting window.
----- Request for Eve Development Roadmap. Let CSM know that we want one.
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HeavyWave
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.08 09:50:00 -
[197]
Don't let this thread die and eventually we'll get an answer. |
Gwenywell Shumuku
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Posted - 2011.07.08 09:55:00 -
[198]
x
is there even a question in this? of course every half blind guy would have noticed these icons just don't cut it.
NOw, don't get me wrong, i love the new turrets...but the icons? common... |
Avaleric
Amarr SC Special Circumstances
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:05:00 -
[199]
...the new icons remind me of various animal droppings. |
Cunane Jeran
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:18:00 -
[200]
x
The turrets look great, the icons really need some work especially when your actually shooting at someone you just get a pixelated blob. |
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:19:00 -
[201]
Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 08/07/2011 10:21:13
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Shasz It's like the art team got lazy and just scaled down a rendering of the turret and called it a day.
àand the funny thing is that, had they been even lazier and just left the icons alone, it would have yielded better results.
/ack
I don't even know why they changed em in the first place. The old ones were great.
What is it with all this "replace great 2D art with subpar 3D renders" anyway? Looks like some industry folk need to be spoon fed some good old SNES titles. |
Drezzin 420
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:32:00 -
[202]
x
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:43:00 -
[203]
X
WTF is a wookie doing on my ice miner icons? |
stafii
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:48:00 -
[204]
agree,change the icons back please x |
Flag Bravo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:48:00 -
[205]
Why don't you CCP, give us back our old icons until that time you make new ones that actually look like something more than assorted animal turds. |
Inserith Peon
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:54:00 -
[206]
Edited by: Inserith Peon on 08/07/2011 10:56:04 The icons were licensed from the designers of HotBlack Desiato's ship. Black legends on a black control panel with lights that light up a bright flourescent day-glo black when you press them.
Oh, and X mwah! Kiss me Hardy!
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Rugs
Amarr Clown Punchers.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 19:30:00 -
[207]
X, Turret icons made in MS Paint in 5 seconds = not cool.
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Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.07.10 06:58:00 -
[208]
Edited by: Sarmatiko on 10/07/2011 07:01:40 Do we need to write bugreport or petition to get official response on this? Or do we need to present CCP artists some old CRT monitors from early 90s with broken HSV and brightness values instead of their shiny professional displays, so they can feel the difference we feel now? |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2011.07.10 08:50:00 -
[209]
You would think CCP would have learnt by now to 'communicate', over 200 posts in this thread, the majority clearly stating that the new icons are really really bad at being icons!
Seriously... |
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.07.10 18:15:00 -
[210]
X - The big problem I have is that I can't tell what they represent, for instance when I board a fitted ship, without mousing over them.
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Cassidia Arbosa
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Posted - 2011.07.10 18:18:00 -
[211]
x Projectile Weapon icons now look like black blobs.
Thanks a lot CCP. Do you even test the crap you release? |
Craven Aleros
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Posted - 2011.07.10 18:20:00 -
[212]
X |
Meatball Enema
North Eastern Swat
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Posted - 2011.07.10 19:45:00 -
[213]
Edited by: Meatball Enema on 10/07/2011 19:46:07 They're not icons, they're tiny pictures. So terrible ccp. Do you remember what an icon is? Here's a clue, there's a reason that the firefox icon is not a picture of a fox. Because that would be stupid. That's right, you're stupid ccp, and whoever decided to change the icons to tiny pictures is stupid and needs to diaf.
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Myfanwy Heimdal
Caldari Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
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Posted - 2011.07.10 20:04:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Sarmatiko Edited by: Sarmatiko on 10/07/2011 07:01:40 Do we need to write bugreport or petition to get official response on this? Or do we need to present CCP artists some old CRT monitors from early 90s with broken HSV and brightness values instead of their shiny professional displays, so they can feel the difference we feel now?
I have done just this. I was told that GMs can't comment on dev stuff and then I was basically ignored when I wrote back to them.
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Kile Kitmoore
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Posted - 2011.07.10 20:24:00 -
[215]
Art is so subjective but these icons were really not well thought through. First, they don't seem to scale well and they are really dark and pretty much useless when you have something targeted in space.
Oh....
x > OP
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Ceptia Cyna
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Posted - 2011.07.16 11:26:00 -
[216]
X Agreed
Change them back! We are used to them! Why screw thousands of customers? CCP do you even care?
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Ay Liz
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2011.07.16 11:30:00 -
[217]
X, just bring the olds ones back.
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.07.16 11:30:00 -
[218]
x |
Flag Bravo
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.16 11:37:00 -
[219]
Originally by: HeavyWave Don't let this thread die and eventually we'll get an answer.
You will be lucky. They are playing the 'stay quiet and it will all go away on its own' routine, that all failed game developers use when they have run out of steam.
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.07.16 12:20:00 -
[220]
Edited by: Toovhon on 16/07/2011 12:20:36 X
Whoever is responsible for this ****e should be blacklisted from ever working in the art and design business.
They're indistinguishable, ugly, blocky, fuzzy, don't show up against dark backgrounds, don't help identify the item they're supposed to represent, and don't match the other icons.
But worst of all is they're not better than the old icons in any single way.
Who at CCP signs off on art assets like these? I'm guessing no one will own up to actually creating this crap, but who was responsible for them reaching the release version of Incarna? -- The Door! |
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Zammo Bahrut
Banana On A Plate
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Posted - 2011.07.16 12:28:00 -
[221]
I think this is a valid argument.. before incarnage...
*log in* *see's ship in hanger* "oh i'm in my Harby.. cool" *undocks gets into fight* "ahh good I see that I've fitted some medium pulse lasers that I can easily recognise on my HUD" *dies horribly and gets podded due to being crap at pvp*
... and now.. the same story after incarnage...
*log in* *stairs blankly at inanimate door* *opens ship hanger* "oh right! i'm in my Harby." *undocks gets into fight* "ummm neuts, yeah i think it's neuts... maybe salvager's, I dunno some random fuzzy blob, meh I dunno" *dies horribly and gets podded due to being crap at pvp*
I decided to draw a picture to make a point...
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LionWilby
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Posted - 2011.07.16 13:00:00 -
[222]
x
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Darcel Black
Gallente Aribar Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.16 16:21:00 -
[223]
Yeah the new icons are terribad of the highest degree. Absolute crap! |
Beaudinot Elishah Atavuli
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Posted - 2011.07.16 16:29:00 -
[224]
they probably look fantastic on the 30" screen where they were designed, but something when terribly wrong when they scrunched them to an itty bitty icon.
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Cassidia Arbosa
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Posted - 2011.07.16 16:32:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Beaudinot Elishah Atavuli they probably look fantastic on the 30" screen where they were designed, but something when terribly wrong when they scrunched them to an itty bitty icon.
I play on a 32" 1080P TV. I can confirm they still look like black blobs.
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Jonni IInferno
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.08.07 14:31:00 -
[226]
Petition to CCP:
CCP -
Why do we have 8 pages of comments from players about this issue - and not one friggin response from CCP ??
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1534739&page=8
This lack of communication with a corporation's client-base is totally unacceptable and would not be allowed in any corporate organization with which I have ever been associated.
There was nothing wrong with the Icons before the Incarna release - now there is plenty wrong.
Why did CCP feel the need to fix something that was not broken - when there are plenty of legitimate fixes that need to be made to EVE ??
What is wrong with the management at CCP ??
Please do not give me some inane response - if you cannot give me a legit answer -- please forward this petition up the food chain.
Thanks
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Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2011.08.07 15:23:00 -
[227]
x
Their appearance is more resembling of a graphical error than some form of quick-reference icon.
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tika te
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Posted - 2011.08.07 15:27:00 -
[228]
X
hybrids turrets look like some kind of utility turrets - just not like a gun-turrets at all distinguishing between calibre sizes (i.e. 200mm rail and 250mm rail..) and gun sizes (L, M , S) is really dificult with hybrids (and projectiles too in some cases)...
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Todd4921
Gallente Caldari Elite Force Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.08.07 16:18:00 -
[229]
X Confirmed **** on a 26" and a 40". Yay for blobs!
Next on the Noble exchange: 'Dignified' turret icons
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Noofels
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Posted - 2011.08.07 16:26:00 -
[230]
X
I'll agree that the turret icons look very very low resolution. It's like someone took a 24x24 minecraft picture and tried to stick it into EVE.
The biggest problem is that they don't fit into EVE's current item art style. They are totally different from everything else. Bright and yellow for some reason. |
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Cedar Locus
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Posted - 2011.08.07 17:41:00 -
[231]
ok....your all complaining, but hey....seems like everything still use em so that must mean the ppl in this thread are crazy, let's not listen to them anymore.
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.07 17:44:00 -
[232]
Edited by: Tippia on 07/08/2011 17:44:58
Originally by: Cedar Locus seems like everything still use em
Oh myà can'tà breatherà from theà laughter.
Anyway, X again ù please gives us some actual icons for the turrets, CCP. The old ones will do nicely if you don't have the resources to make new ones. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Barbelo Valentinian
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.08.07 18:02:00 -
[233]
I dunno, I don't mind the ones I can see, and I'm getting used to them; but some of them seem to be black and have hardly any distinguishing features - is that some sort of rendering mistake? It's like they were rendered without some layer of colour or reflectivity or something. *****
"To wake up is to wake the world up" - D.E. Harding |
Sanguine Belroth
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Posted - 2011.08.08 05:17:00 -
[234]
X The T2 blasters, its hard to tell if they are online or not when fitting. They all look the same when fitted to the ship. I undocked a gank thorax with small neutrons the other day. It didn't go so well.
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Smagd
Encina Technologies Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.08.08 09:24:00 -
[235]
They all look the same: Black on black.
It's a good thing types get sorted "lasers -> blasters -> missile launchers -> projectile guns" otherwise I wouldn't find anything.
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Lady Spank
Amarr In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.08.08 09:40:00 -
[236]
If I wanted to stare at indiscriminate flakes I'd stare at my fishtank at feeding time. ~~~
Screenshot batch compression |
Azure Moonlight
Atomic Core Industries and Science
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Posted - 2011.08.08 10:35:00 -
[237]
x
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2011.08.08 11:04:00 -
[238]
X for "excellence"?
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Bongo0
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Posted - 2011.08.08 11:16:00 -
[239]
The new icons clash with the old ones and just look plain terrible.
X if you agree
they are shocking
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.08 11:34:00 -
[240]
Thumbs up here please
--- This is one of the moments where we look at what CCP does and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change |
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Darod Zyree
Gallente Zyree Holding
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Posted - 2011.08.08 11:35:00 -
[241]
x
remove the new turrets or greatly improve/redo the current ones.
-Darod- |
Spurty
Caldari V0LTA VOLTA Corp
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Posted - 2011.08.08 11:53:00 -
[242]
Icons are awful. Can't tell if you have guns firing on the right target even.
Need some contrasting backgrounds to better distinguish their state (I.e. Firing would be anted glowing background)
Number of times I heard people say they toggled damage as they weren't sure.
When you turn effectives off, it gets worse for you There's only One Zymurgist! |
Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2011.08.08 12:06:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Grey Stormshadow Thumbs up here please
Deserves a quote.
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Agamand
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.09 02:42:00 -
[244]
X
Plz, just bring the old ones back |
Ris Dnalor
Minmatar Fleet of Doom RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.09 03:03:00 -
[245]
X
Yes, please, stop the madness, re-introduce old icons, and don't fekk up the missile launcher icons pls.
At this point, I'd rather see a white circle with a few black block letters to abbreviate the weapon type. Would be more functional & pleasing to the eye frankly.
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Judge Ment
BOOM BOOM POW
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Posted - 2011.08.09 03:07:00 -
[246]
signed ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions. |
Mekkimaru
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.09 03:08:00 -
[247]
O
you will get used to them again, calm down peoples :P ------------------------------
Life is not about having a good hand, its about playing the hand you do have well. |
Trainwreck McGee
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Posted - 2011.08.09 03:54:00 -
[248]
triple x
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ALLYOURMONEY BELONGTOUS
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Posted - 2011.08.09 05:20:00 -
[249]
hey!!! if you don't like it..there's the door!!!
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gargars
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Posted - 2011.08.10 06:55:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Mekkimaru O
you will get used to them again, calm down peoples :P
I thought this too, but it isn't happening. If they were just ugly I could deal with it, but with them all looking so much a like and being almost invisible against dark space in the targeting overview... PLEASE fix.
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Mary Astell
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Posted - 2011.08.10 10:09:00 -
[251]
x just do something.
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Aidamina Omen
Elysian Empire
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Posted - 2011.08.10 12:59:00 -
[252]
X - What ever happened to that whole commitment to excellence?
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Rhinanna
Minmatar Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.08.10 13:02:00 -
[253]
Dark icon on a dark background......
Man your interface designers must be geniuses! Seriously how did you guys not see this. Its virtually impossible to tell if I'm shooting someone or not! -The sword is only as sharp as the one who wields it. Drenzul (My normal internet tag) |
Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.08.10 13:39:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Aidamina Omen X - What ever happened to that whole commitment to excellence?
Excellence left the building when CCP over-extended itself with multiple projects, criminal bankers (and CCP investors) hoodwinked the Icelandic financial system and CCP found itself with increased investor / creditor pressure to deliver the scratch.
When the squeeze is put onto a company, quality and customer service get dropped. Profit is king and supersedes *all* other directives. Hilmar's balls are getting banged up and we are seeing the results of his management actions at CCP: rushed output of low quality product to minimize EVE-specific cost centers (employees) and show investors / creditors that CCP is a viable business venture.
X for reverting the turret icons (not the models) back to something recognizable.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.08.10 15:13:00 -
[255]
no word from CCP about this issue? The new icons look like pieces of cr*p or veldspar next to locked targets.
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VaL Iscariot
Caldari The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.11 03:32:00 -
[256]
X
but it won't do any good. CCP doesn't give a damn about anyone's opinion.
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Valhallas
Gallente The Executioners
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Posted - 2011.08.11 12:39:00 -
[257]
X - bring back the old ones
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Malkev
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Posted - 2011.08.11 15:11:00 -
[258]
X
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Reicine Ceer
Rodents of Unusual Size
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Posted - 2011.08.11 15:19:00 -
[259]
X
I honestly thought i'd broken my client, very glad to see its not just me having issues with "new and improved" icons. While i will as a rule never sit and directly moan about CCP, this is one of 'those things' that i really am very surprised CCP allowed to be pushed onto the live server.
In my opinion, an icon does not need to LOOK like a module, it must simply REPRESENT it. Case in point; every single module icon before these new ones.
-- You're a stark example of just what is wrong with the youth of today. I wish your parents had the presence of mind to have you recycled into a nutrient soup with which to feed the elderly |
ColdCutz
Gallente Pwny Nation
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Posted - 2011.08.11 15:57:00 -
[260]
Edited by: ColdCutz on 11/08/2011 15:57:29 X
It's funny that the Rig icons still have the old weapon art.
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Hakaru Ishiwara
Minmatar Republic Military School
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Posted - 2011.08.11 16:01:00 -
[261]
Originally by: ColdCutz Edited by: ColdCutz on 11/08/2011 15:57:29 X
It's funny that the Rig icons still have the old weapon art.
Shush! Don't give them any ideas.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.08.11 16:36:00 -
[262]
Yeah, they should hire a proper UI artist. --------
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Roime
Gallente Sin Factory Anarchy Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.08.11 16:42:00 -
[263]
X
I also thought my client was b0rked somehow.
P.S. I'm available for icon and UI design work. Contact ingame :)
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Tandariel Neliom
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Posted - 2011.08.11 21:29:00 -
[264]
If it weren't for that small white square, I wouldn't be able to tell my tractor beam from my salvager...
I used to think the old icons were poor because I couldn't tell the diffence between different guns of the same type and size. How wrong I was! Come back, old icons, all is forgiven!
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