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Felsusguy
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
19
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Posted - 2012.12.31 08:11:00 -
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Currently, the minimum bounty for capsuleers is 100,000 ISK. I've seen dozens of people go by with 100,000 ISK bounties, with big ol' bolded "WANTED"s on their portraits. I see no reason for such a low minimum bounty. No one is going to kill you over 100k, and everyone who is anyone can afford to place a larger bounty. I suggest a larger minimum bounty, such as 1mil to 5mil. This would harm nothing and would reduce "Bounty Spamming". True, people could still bounty spam, but it would cost them ten times as much. 100 spams costs 100mil where it originally cost 10mil. Anyone who is serious about bounties certainly would not place a 100k bounty, so there is no harm against legitimate use of the system.
To put it in perspective, you could place a bounty everyone in Jita for 175 to 225 million ISK with the current minimum bounty.
Corporations have a minimum of 20mil, but there are certainly corporations that are smaller than 200 members. Try-Cycle Mining Industry recruiting! |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1302
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Posted - 2012.12.31 08:16:00 -
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Why is it a problem? As you said yourself, nobody will shoot anyone for 100k isk. So who cares? |
Seranova Farreach
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
401
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Posted - 2012.12.31 09:54:00 -
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cause then its easier to "filter" high bounties from low bounties for suicide gankage.. thats what he ment i believe |
Dave stark
1343
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Posted - 2012.12.31 10:20:00 -
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even if they have a high bounty, who cares? odds are you'll catch them flying a t1 frig (if you can catch them) and your bounty payout will be pitiful anyway. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Felsusguy
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
21
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Posted - 2013.01.01 00:54:00 -
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Feligast wrote:Why is it a problem? As you said yourself, nobody will shoot anyone for 100k isk. So who cares? The problem is bounty spamming, and you are stating that because nobody will shoot for 100k, that the old system that allows 100k should stay because no one cares about it. That, my friend, seems off.
@Dave Stark Your signature seems to state that you enjoy that people can send "Notifications of stupidity" for 100k. I detect traces of sarcasm in that statement. What a waste of the bounty system. Try-Cycle Mining Industry recruiting! |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
530
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Posted - 2013.01.01 05:15:00 -
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Between the good natured hatemail baiting, I've been noticing ppl spamming bounties on noobies in starter systems to make them panic, etc. Not good for CCP's bottom line. Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
Felsusguy
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
24
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Posted - 2013.01.03 10:04:00 -
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Feligast wrote:Why is it a problem? As you said yourself, nobody will shoot anyone for 100k isk. So who cares? What if people did shoot others for 100k ISK? Then it would be a legitimate use of the system, and that would be a good thing. On the other hand, you can currently place bounties for dirt cheap just to prove that you are an idiot, to annoy them, and to scare noobs, and no one will hunt that bounty. You make it sound like the bounty system working as intended is a bad thing. Try-Cycle Mining Industry recruiting! |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
2392
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Posted - 2013.01.03 10:06:00 -
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what if until your bounty is over 20 mil, your wanted label is in comic sans? |
Alexander Renoir
State War Academy Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2013.01.03 10:47:00 -
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Felsusguy wrote:The problem is bounty spamming [...]
Thats right pal! The current system is much worser, compared to the old one. Sure you do not get all bounty within one kill and you can not farm your own bounty. But AS IT IS.. Every stupid guy use THIS system to harass or annoy other people just because they can. If you write something in an official channel in eve and you currently have NO bounty you can be sure that you will have a bounty within seconds! You do not need to know the guy who gave you this bounty nor do you need to have to interact with him before. AND THIS IS JUST DUMB!
CCP must implement a radical brake to stop this lol-bounty-spamming!
I once was a supporter in a help channel in eve. But seconds after the server came up after "retribution", some idiot spend an bounty to all persons he could detect in this HELP CHANNEL. Have a look at the best bounty hunters out there. Take the kills and the earned money and you will see, that they do not have killed the most wanted people in EVE.. They just have killed most of the 100k - 1mill bounty chars. In other words they are just ordinary gankers who killed someone with a lol-bounty.
CCP MUST reintroduce the brake beeing unable to spend bounties on Chars with null or positive security rating! And until they will do so I have canceled two accounts, which where payed with real money!
I am not a criminal.. I never done wrong things and I am just an missionrunner who wants to play a game and just wants some fun with EVE. And therefore I do not wish to be harassed from someone with 100k ISK. CCP do not wish to have my real money (Euro) anymore. So I wish you a nice time with your rest of your customers CCP. I AM GONE!
Before you all claim that I am the only one who hates this bounty system let me say that the last GM used a "mass response" to answer my petition. |
Thomas Gore
Blackfyre Enterprise
145
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Posted - 2013.01.03 10:57:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:what if until your bounty is over 20 mil, your wanted label is in comic sans?
And in pink letters? I'd probably have to put a bounty over 20 mil on myself to get rid of that... |
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Felsusguy
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
25
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Posted - 2013.01.05 00:48:00 -
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Alexander Renoir wrote: So I wish you a nice time with your rest of your customers CCP. I AM GONE!.
Yeah! Me too! Goodbye CCP!
*two weeks later*
Please CCP! I can't live without you! Take me BACK! Here, take ALL OF MY MONEY. Try-Cycle Mining Industry recruiting! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12472
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Posted - 2013.01.05 01:39:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:even if they have a high bounty, who cares? odds are you'll catch them flying a t1 frig (if you can catch them) and your bounty payout will be pitiful anyway. It's ok. I can give you a heads up the next time I take the Orca out.
*sits on 41,500 stupidity notifications* GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Alexander Renoir
State War Academy Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.01.05 11:07:00 -
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Felsusguy wrote:Alexander Renoir wrote: So I wish you a nice time with your rest of your customers CCP. I AM GONE!.
Yeah! Me too! Goodbye CCP! *two weeks later* Please CCP! I can't live without you! Take me BACK! Here, take ALL OF MY MONEY.
No.. not this time Felsus. I will come back if it is not longer possible to place bounties on null- or positive security rated chars again. Before "Retribution" I have played a few hours EVERY DAY. But after the last add- on I just log in to change some skills read a little bit in the help channel (but do not answer any questions anymore) or write something into the forum. No further actions in game. Thats sad. I am unhappy. But I am not willed to pay for a game I do not wish to play. Regardless if it is via ISK or real money.
I have considered to pay my main char with ISK in order to let my beloved char learn something. But I must ask myself.. WHY? Sure I have the ISK to pay in ISK nearly 13 years (without ISK for new skillbooks).. but if CCP do not change the bounty mechanic I will not come back anyway. I want to play.. I want to pay! But not under this current conditions.
So CCP.. please change something that it is not possible to place bounties on EVERY known char in game. If someone did something stupid the last month.. lets get them a bounty.. If he has a sec state below 0 (you once had -1) then let him get a bounty. BUT not for asking or answering some questions in your OWN official help channel! Thats nonsense! |
Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
926
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Posted - 2013.01.05 17:17:00 -
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Alexander Renoir wrote:Felsusguy wrote:Alexander Renoir wrote: So I wish you a nice time with your rest of your customers CCP. I AM GONE!.
Yeah! Me too! Goodbye CCP! *two weeks later* Please CCP! I can't live without you! Take me BACK! Here, take ALL OF MY MONEY. No.. not this time Felsus. I will come back if it is not longer possible to place bounties on null- or positive security rated chars again. Before "Retribution" I have played a few hours EVERY DAY. But after the last add- on I just log in to change some skills read a little bit in the help channel (but do not answer any questions anymore) or write something into the forum. No further actions in game. Thats sad. I am unhappy. But I am not willed to pay for a game I do not wish to play. Regardless if it is via ISK or real money. I have considered to pay my main char with ISK in order to let my beloved char learn something. But I must ask myself.. WHY? Sure I have the ISK to pay in ISK nearly 13 years (without ISK for new skillbooks).. but if CCP do not change the bounty mechanic I will not come back anyway. I want to play.. I want to pay! But not under this current conditions. So CCP.. please change something that it is not possible to place bounties on EVERY known char in game. If someone did something stupid the last month.. lets get them a bounty.. If he has a sec state below 0 (you once had -1) then let him get a bounty. BUT not for asking or answering some questions in your OWN official help channel! Thats nonsense!
Please, explain to us how having a bounty actually affects you in any way, shape or form? How does it stop you from playing the game the way you want to? Are the notifications really that bad? |
Alexander Renoir
State War Academy Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.01.05 17:56:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote: Please, explain to us how having a bounty actually affects you in any way, shape or form? How does it stop you from playing the game the way you want to? Are the notifications really that bad?
It is not just about the notifications. The whole concept is wrong. See it as it is.. have a look at the current list of bounty hunters out there. Take the kills and the earned money thereof and you will see, that the best bounty hunter is not the man with the most honor nor din't he killed the most wanted persons in EVE. He just gaked most of the lol-bounty people out there. But he still is an ordinary ganker and NOT the, from CCP announced, respectable bounty hunter.
The current situation is, that the new bounty system is used for griefing. I do not know if you self or some of your chars have bounty (I do not log in very often ) But try to find out who gave you this bounty, how many of them do you know and how many of them do you have ever made angry.
It is NOW that you get an bounty from someone who you never met in game who just wants to anger you. He doesn't even know you. You have no bounty on your head? Now you have! Not because you are a bad person or you did something wrong. NO! You have a bounty because you refused to accept an invitation for a corp, you helped the wrong people, asked the wrong question or even wrote the wrong things into the forum or elsewhere etc.
I know that a bounty does not give any legal rights to kill or attack me. I ask you.. WHY do you think that CCP does not implemented the ability to spend a bounty on all pilots at start of EVE online years back? They know that this tool is used for griefing. I never did something wrong! So I do not wish to have a bounty on my head. Especially that I am just a missionrunner who helped other people in the help channel to find a way in EVE.
To have a bounty on my head is wrong. I just want to relax from RL and want to play EVE and give help to other people. I do not wish to get bothered with a nonsense bounty of 100k ISK. THIS bounty gives me a touch of a criminal. I do not wish that.
CCP must re implement the border to only give bounty to persons you have interact with in the past or which have a negative security rating or otherwise did something wrong. The bounty pool is under control of CONCORD-> The police in EVE. Why should CONCORD allow to set a bounty on my head when I have best standings to them?
I loved EVE more than 4 years.. but now I am sad that I tried EVE. Sad but true.
And now I wait for your bounties. ...
Addition: To have a bounty on my head is a morality disaster for me. Laugh about me. Never mind! But it is what I think. Sorry. I ever just wanted to have fun in EVE. This bounty thing has destroyed it. Really. |
Kesthely
Fleet of the Damned Happy Endings
30
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Posted - 2013.01.05 18:04:00 -
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Alexander Renoir wrote:Felsusguy wrote:Alexander Renoir wrote: So I wish you a nice time with your rest of your customers CCP. I AM GONE!.
Yeah! Me too! Goodbye CCP! *two weeks later* Please CCP! I can't live without you! Take me BACK! Here, take ALL OF MY MONEY. No.. not this time Felsus. I will come back if it is not longer possible to place bounties on null- or positive security rated chars again. Before "Retribution" I have played a few hours EVERY DAY. But after the last add- on I just log in to change some skills read a little bit in the help channel (but do not answer any questions anymore) or write something into the forum. No further actions in game. Thats sad. I am unhappy. But I am not willed to pay for a game I do not wish to play. Regardless if it is via ISK or real money. I have considered to pay my main char with ISK in order to let my beloved char learn something. But I must ask myself.. WHY? Sure I have the ISK to pay in ISK nearly 13 years (without ISK for new skillbooks).. but if CCP do not change the bounty mechanic I will not come back anyway. I want to play.. I want to pay! But not under this current conditions. So CCP.. please change something that it is not possible to place bounties on EVERY known char in game. If someone did something stupid the last month.. lets get them a bounty.. If he has a sec state below 0 (you once had -1) then let him get a bounty. BUT not for asking or answering some questions in your OWN official help channel! Thats nonsense!
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Alexander Renoir
State War Academy Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2013.01.05 18:47:00 -
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Kesthely wrote: Its a lot easier to complain on the forums and try to have something changed, then look at yourself and consider "might my behavior have to do anything with this"
No it can NOT have to do anything what I have done. This char is not my main. But it is strange that THIS char has most of the bounty. He never did SOMETHING except an "Hello o/^" in an official channel! No scam, gank, spam, "Fxxk you!" or something in this way. THIS char is barely known in game. He is old; but without any skills. So tell me why do I have deserved my bounty? But I think we know the answer. I am against this new bounty feature and others do like it. Thats enough these days.
Furthermore "I'm NOT afraid i might get suicide ganked for a 100k bounty! someone help me!" As I have written it is just an morality desaster for me. And not only for me. My last petition was answered with a mass response from a GM who was obviously nerved about the mass of petitions concerning the bounty mechanic. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13411
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Posted - 2013.01.05 18:54:00 -
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CCP welcome people placing bounties "because of spite". They have however, mentioned that targeting new players is frowned upon and not to do it. Yes this is like locking the gate after the horse has bolted, but it's the way CCP have worked for years. They have either relaxed this stance, or are implementing changes to exclude certain age players.
That all being said however, I can see the argument for increasing the minimum amount.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Ines Tegator
Towels R Us
205
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Posted - 2013.01.05 20:23:00 -
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100k is meaningless and annoying. It's also harmless, but that doesn't make it a good thing. A 10mil minimum would mean that the buyer has to invest a little, and the recipient will actually be at (minor) risk if they are flying anything larger then a shuttle. I think that makes bounties in general more meaningful gameplay. |
sabre906
Old Spice Syndicate Sailors of the Sacred Spice
545
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Posted - 2013.01.05 20:50:00 -
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Ines Tegator wrote:100k is meaningless and annoying. It's also harmless, but that doesn't make it a good thing. A 10mil minimum would mean that the buyer has to invest a little, and the recipient will actually be at (minor) risk if they are flying anything larger then a shuttle. I think that makes bounties in general more meaningful gameplay.
"Meaningless" is relative. Noobs in starter systems are flipping out and logging off "omg 100k bounty on me!" Standings Improvement Service https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19454 |
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Danika Princip
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
926
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Posted - 2013.01.05 20:57:00 -
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Alexander Renoir wrote:Danika Princip wrote: Please, explain to us how having a bounty actually affects you in any way, shape or form? How does it stop you from playing the game the way you want to? Are the notifications really that bad?
It is not just about the notifications. The whole concept is wrong. See it as it is.. have a look at the current list of bounty hunters out there. Take the kills and the earned money thereof and you will see, that the best bounty hunter is not the man with the most honor nor din't he killed the most wanted persons in EVE. He just gaked most of the lol-bounty people out there. But he still is an ordinary ganker and NOT the, from CCP announced, respectable bounty hunter. The current situation is, that the new bounty system is used for griefing. I do not know if you self or some of your chars have bounty (I do not log in very often ) But try to find out who gave you this bounty, how many of them do you know and how many of them do you have ever made angry. It is NOW that you get an bounty from someone who you never met in game who just wants to anger you. He doesn't even know you. You have no bounty on your head? Now you have! Not because you are a bad person or you did something wrong. NO! You have a bounty because you refused to accept an invitation for a corp, you helped the wrong people, asked the wrong question or even wrote the wrong things into the forum or elsewhere etc. I know that a bounty does not give any legal rights to kill or attack me. I ask you.. WHY do you think that CCP does not implemented the ability to spend a bounty on all pilots at start of EVE online years back? They know that this tool is used for griefing. I never did something wrong! So I do not wish to have a bounty on my head. Especially that I am just a missionrunner who helped other people in the help channel to find a way in EVE. To have a bounty on my head is wrong. I just want to relax from RL and want to play EVE and give help to other people. I do not wish to get bothered with a nonsense bounty of 100k ISK. THIS bounty gives me a touch of a criminal. I do not wish that. CCP must re implement the border to only give bounty to persons you have interact with in the past or which have a negative security rating or otherwise did something wrong. The bounty pool is under control of CONCORD-> The police in EVE. Why should CONCORD allow to set a bounty on my head when I have best standings to them? I loved EVE more than 4 years.. but now I am sad that I tried EVE. Sad but true. And now I wait for your bounties. ... Addition:To have a bounty on my head is a morality disaster for me. Laugh about me. Never mind! But it is what I think. Sorry. I ever just wanted to have fun in EVE. This bounty thing has destroyed it. Really.
There is no honour in space. There is no such thing as a respectable bounty hunter either, nor a most wanted person. I think the problem you're having here is trying to think of morality in a game where we kill millions of people as if it's nothing. There is nothing wrong with someone wanting you to explode a few times, nor in you wanting the same for them.
CCP don't have to do anything of the sort. The new bounty system is hilarious, if for no other reason than threads like these. As for CONCORD, why shouldn't they? We're barely controlled mass murdering demigods, hardly the kind of people they'd invite round for tea and cake.
Just...don't worry about it. Bounty is just a number after all. Hell, if you want, I'll come kill you a couple of times to clear it for you
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Alexander Renoir
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2013.01.06 09:57:00 -
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Danika Princip wrote:There is no honour in space. There is no such thing as a respectable bounty hunter either, nor a most wanted person. I think the problem you're having here is trying to think of morality in a game where we kill millions of people as if it's nothing. There is nothing wrong with someone wanting you to explode a few times, nor in you wanting the same for them. CCP don't have to do anything of the sort. The new bounty system is hilarious, if for no other reason than threads like these. As for CONCORD, why shouldn't they? We're barely controlled mass murdering demigods, hardly the kind of people they'd invite round for tea and cake. Just...don't worry about it. Bounty is just a number after all. Hell, if you want, I'll come kill you a couple of times to clear it for you
No thanks. You do not need to kill this char. To be true THIS char is meaningless. I will just close my accounts and refuse to pay more (real) money to CCP. After five or six month the bounty will disappear anyway and my char is "clean" again. But listen CCP. After the extinction of my bounty I will not come back. If I would do; another idiot would spend another 100k ISK on my head and I would be depressed again. EVE is my first and last online game. I stay offline.. So that I can decide which patches or add ons I will use! I am heavy disappointed of CCP again. One time too much!
CCP can send me an re invite if they have esteblished a border for placing bounties. I mean NO bounty for chars with null or positive security rating. NOTHING other is acceptable for me. I have spend too much time and real money for EVE. Nearly 4.5 years. CCP has managed to drive me out of their own game. They lose a long time supporter of their help channel and several continued subscription fees but have won an former player who can not recommend to start with EVE online or DUST. CCP is stubborn and resistant regarding recommendations from their community. Why should I encourage my friends to start with EVE?
P.S.: How long does EVE Gate exist? And the forum still eats the messages on posting. A silent testimonial that CCP is unable to enhance something or to clean their own code from bugs. |
Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
393
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Posted - 2013.01.06 10:02:00 -
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You may be looking at this in the wrong light, it is more like a open payment for a hit, allowing anyone to become the hitman if they are willing accept the consequences of there actions. You are thinking bounty like the old west: Wanted dead or alive $10,000,000 Which denotes you have done something wrong, and this is not the case with the new system. Ideas For Drone Improvement Updated 11/30/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |
Alexander Renoir
State War Academy Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2013.01.06 10:06:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:You may be looking at this in the wrong light, it is more like a open payment for a hit, allowing anyone to become the hitman if they are willing accept the consequences of there actions. You are thinking bounty like the old west: Wanted dead or alive $10,000,000 Which denotes you have done something wrong, and this is not the case with the new system.
Perhaps you are right. But this is how I see it. Not only me. Also new players. I love to have a good reputation. This is why I never would scam or gank some one. But this bounty gives me a touch of someone who had done wrong things. This is not acceptable for me. |
Omnathious Deninard
Extrinsic Operations
393
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Posted - 2013.01.06 10:15:00 -
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Alexander Renoir wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:You may be looking at this in the wrong light, it is more like a open payment for a hit, allowing anyone to become the hitman if they are willing accept the consequences of there actions. You are thinking bounty like the old west: Wanted dead or alive $10,000,000 Which denotes you have done something wrong, and this is not the case with the new system. Perhaps you are right. But this is how I see it. Not only me. Also new players. I love to have a good reputation. This is why I never would scam or gank some one. But this bounty gives me a touch of someone who had done wrong things. This is not acceptable for me. The reason the term bounty is used is there is no better word for it. When you are a successful business man, you are going to turn the heads of your competition, and be it lack of time, ability, or ambition they must feel you are a threat to there success and the only way they could level the field is by placing a "bounty" on you to deter you or remove you. for the most part though the 100k bounties are going around just because its new, give it some time they will slow down or go away completly. Ideas For Drone Improvement Updated 11/30/12Catastrophic Uprising is Recruiting |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13424
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Posted - 2013.01.06 10:19:00 -
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Alexander Renoir wrote:Omnathious Deninard wrote:You may be looking at this in the wrong light, it is more like a open payment for a hit, allowing anyone to become the hitman if they are willing accept the consequences of there actions. You are thinking bounty like the old west: Wanted dead or alive $10,000,000 Which denotes you have done something wrong, and this is not the case with the new system. Perhaps you are right. But this is how I see it. Not only me. Also new players. I love to have a good reputation. This is why I never would scam or gank some one. But this bounty gives me a touch of someone who had done wrong things. This is not acceptable for me. You having a wanted sign, is about your reputation with the person who placed the bounty. They may want you attacked, because of your good reputation.
I may agree on an increase in the minimum, but the changes made are great. They could be tweeked maybe, but they shouldremain.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Felsusguy
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
25
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Posted - 2013.01.06 11:27:00 -
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Omnathious Deninard wrote:You may be looking at this in the wrong light, it is more like a open payment for a hit, allowing anyone to become the hitman if they are willing accept the consequences of there actions. You are thinking bounty like the old west: Wanted dead or alive $10,000,000 Which denotes you have done something wrong, and this is not the case with the new system. Perhaps CCP asked for it to be considered that, as anyone with any size bounty (even 1 ISK if they miraculously retain their bounty to that degree), gets a big ol' "WANTED" on their face. How are people going to admire my dashing good virtual looks when all they can see from my chin down is red with big bold white "WANTED" on it?
I think an interesting feature would be that police forces themselves would place bounties on those who violated the law.
Another idea is that you could covertly (that is, without them knowing whodunnit) place bounties if they have wronged you personally or have a negative security status, or that they only receive a "WANTED" on their face if they have a high enough bounty or a negative security status and a bounty. Try-Cycle Mining Industry recruiting! |
DSpite Culhach
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
46
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Posted - 2013.01.06 13:33:00 -
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I don't think raising the minimum will do much to some players I have seen.
I've already seen a player drop 500 mill on two players that said something about his avatar maxed size ... errr ... chest pixels, as apparently he's swimming in isk and is bored.
Wrong place wrong time and min isk is irrelevant. |
Felsusguy
Nuevo Atlas Corporation
25
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:45:00 -
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DSpite Culhach wrote:I don't think raising the minimum will do much to some players I have seen.
I've already seen a player drop 500 mill on two players that said something about his avatar maxed size ... errr ... chest pixels, as apparently he's swimming in isk and is bored.
Wrong place wrong time and min isk is irrelevant. A man can place a bounty on 100 new players, much to their anguish, for only 10 mil. They can place a bounty on 1000 for only 100mil. They can put a big ol' WANTED on everyone playing EVE at the current time for only 3-5 billion. It serves no purpose for the minimum bounty to be so low, except to allow for bounty spamming, which serves no purpose in itself except to be an annoyance. Raising it to 1 to 5 million would make far more sense, effectively making it cost 10 to 50 times more to bounty spam, but without reducing the effectiveness of the legitimate bounty system. It would be a quick fix that would greatly reduce bounty spamming. As for placing 500 mil? Well, that's fine. Rich people can place all the ridiculous bounties they want. Want a random person dead? Why not? Rich people deserve more rights.
To reiterate, my proposal would cause absolutely no harm, and reduce bounty spamming, which is annoying, as well as genuinely confusing and frightening for some new players, making them panic, thinking that the bounty will make people attack them. You know what people call something that causes no harm, costs little, and genuinely does good? They call it a great investment.
The sad part is that more people agree more with a logical fallacy (no one will legitimately use the system with a bounty that size, so keep the minimum bounty that size, so no one cares) than they agree with a legitimate suggestion which would reduce spam and cause no harm, both on the same thread. Try-Cycle Mining Industry recruiting! |
Alexander Renoir
State War Academy Caldari State
44
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Posted - 2013.01.18 07:48:00 -
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For me, the best part of the CSM7 Meeting Minutes was:
Soundwave @ CSM7 Meeting Minutes wrote: Soundwave clarified that he doesnGÇÖt mind people being bothered by it, because no EVE player has the right to be shut off from the rest of the world. He sees bounty hunting as something thatGÇÖs impacting players playing EVE as a single player game in a way nothing they tried before, and was glad they were interacting with the community whether negatively or positively. He suspected most people complaining were annoyed because they were not used to being able to be GÇ£pokedGÇ¥ by other players.
Alekseyev Karrde wrote: Alek praised this statement: AMEN SOUNDWAVE!
THAT shows me two things: First is, that it is strange and hypocritical from Soundwave that he GÇ£doesn`t mind people being botheredGÇ¥ with this new bounty system. And on the other hand the whole CCP Team (GM; Dev; CCP and Volunteer etc.) is excluded from the new bounty system at once! DidnGÇÖt he said that no one GÇ£has the right to be shut off from the rest of the worldGÇ¥?
The second thing is, that Alekseyev Karrde does not know this and praises Soundwave as new messiah!
And another thing:
CCP Solomon wrote: The goal would be to ensure they understand that having a bounty doesnGÇÖt make them attackable in highsec, which Solomon confirmed was a point of confusion on the forums even for experienced players.
Solomon.. you are wrong or just want to play down the problem. We all know that a bounty does not make a pilot a legal target. It is the bounty itself that is the problem! As good guy you do not wish to have a bounty. Especially if you have good standings to CONCORD GÇô WHO has control of the bounty system (pool). If you have never done some harm to another player NO ONE should be able to spend a bounty for nothing on his head! |
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