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Liu Valitore
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:37:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships. ... That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull ... So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?
I think this is an awesome idea, though I can only truly speak from a Khanid(my main) perspective: I would love to see the abso as a Harby, it would lend even more distinction to the Khanid "Dark Amarr" side of things with the Damnation being different from the Empire's Absolution. |
Sante Ixnay
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:37:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship.
Let me take this opportunity to say I still lay awake on some forlorn nights, seething with indignation yall switched the Cheetah from the quintessential covops hull--the Vigil-- a hundred and fifty years and thirty-one dev teams ago. /neverforget
Anyway, back in the modern era, I love the Sleip the way it is. The others I've no attachment to. |
Ydnari
Estrale Frontiers Project Wildfire
195
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:49:00 -
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Bear in mind that this would have a game play effect on the people who build these ships (which includes me). Whilst the hull change makes sense, it presumably has to change the base hull for invention and manufacturing, which would screw over people who have a large investment in the current hulls - and that would not make me happy :-\ -- |
Takara Mora
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:51:00 -
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+ 1 - could never figure out why this wasn't already done! |
sera leonza
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:53:00 -
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Sounds good.
Not sure the Drake would look right with the A-Team van stripes though |
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:53:00 -
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Ydnari wrote:Bear in mind that this would have a game play effect on the people who build these ships (which includes me). Whilst the hull change makes sense, it presumably has to change the base hull for invention and manufacturing, which would screw over people who have a large investment in the current hulls - and that would not make me happy :-\
It wouldn't "screw over" anyone. You can continue making Command Ships with the existing hulls, it just adds a second hull to the mix. T1 BCs that are still not terribly popular becoming components of popular T2 BCs isn't a bad thing for the economy and popular T1 BCs also becoming part of popular T2 BCs is a good thing for manufacturers as well.
sera leonza wrote:Sounds good. Not sure the Drake would look right with the A-Team van stripes though
I posted a mock-up of the Kaalakiota Drake (Nighthawk is a Kaalakiota Ferox atm) on Page 4. Credit goes to Apricot Baby of the Caldari Prime Pony Club. |
Junko Sideswipe
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2013.06.02 01:54:00 -
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Myrm hull model is kawaii. Confederation of xXPIZZAXx CEO Watch PIZZA Videos http://www.youtube.com/user/LunchSquad |
Maximus Andendare
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
240
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Posted - 2013.06.02 04:10:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.
I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.
It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.
That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.
So, hypothetically, what do you guys think? I think it would such a great change to Command Ships. It'd keep the unique flavor of their T1 hull living on in their T2 iterations.
I think it'd be a bit of a change, yes, but I think overall it'd be healthy for the game and keep Command ships fresh.
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3566
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Posted - 2013.06.02 04:17:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about GǪ
My strong opinion is that if you got this done tomorrow, it would be about five years late!
WHY IS THE NIGHTHAWK A MISSILE-SHOOTING FEROX?
Of course the other option is to retcon it all like you did for using the incursus as the basis for the Ishkur instead of the Imicus (that's been retconned now, no need to change the models, besides the Ishkur is awesome).
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
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Posted - 2013.06.02 04:21:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull No, I wouldn't like this optical change. Mostly because I'm not very fond of the Myrm, Drake and Cane hulls.
Also, as a Khanid pilot I have to add: Do not mess with the black beauty !
Remove insurance. |
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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3566
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Posted - 2013.06.02 04:21:00 -
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Ydnari wrote:Bear in mind that this would have a game play effect on the people who build these ships (which includes me). Whilst the hull change makes sense, it presumably has to change the base hull for invention and manufacturing, which would screw over people who have a large investment in the current hulls - and that would not make me happy :-\
You would pass the cost of the upgrade over to the consumers. Or perhaps CCP could allow people with a track record of inventing command ships to nominate some batch of T1 battlecruisers (e.g.: your feroxes) to be converted to the other T1 battlecruiser (e.g.: drakes), and convert the appropriate BPO to the same.
It would be what, three weeks of hardship while you retool your production line and clear out your previous production?
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Allandri
Liandri Industrial Liandri Covenant
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Posted - 2013.06.02 04:23:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.
I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.
It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.
That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.
So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?
+1
As soon as humanly possible by the way |
Fibian Virpio
Shockwave Innovations Surely You're Joking
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Posted - 2013.06.02 04:40:00 -
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Kaalakiota drake!
*swoon* |
Sarmatiko
1172
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Posted - 2013.06.02 04:50:00 -
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Please don't touch my Sleipnir and Nighthawk
I want Sleipnir, not Brutor Hurricane; Nighthawk, not Kaalakiota Drake. And while this thread is ongoing, silent change of models will cause another inevitable shitstorm on forums, because as always major part of the community will be unaware about this.
If you like to change something so iconic - make proper playerbase-wide poll first. -¥ |
Erutpar Ambient
Real Nice And Laidback Corporation Black Core Alliance
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Posted - 2013.06.02 05:04:00 -
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Yes we can! Change is coming!
Dear art team, make them look mo badder than ever! |
Ertai Erquilenne
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.02 05:26:00 -
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Voicing my support for the change. The Myrm would make a great Eos. I'd hate to see the Nighthawk changed, but it makes sense, just like the other changes. I'm 100% for the change. |
Dr Felonius
Civilian Purposes Limited
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Posted - 2013.06.02 05:29:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull
This idea is so self-evidently excellent as to be essentially mandatory for the winter release.
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Lord Eremet
The Seatbelts
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Posted - 2013.06.02 05:32:00 -
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Leave the Sleip and Nighthawk alone. Same goes for vulture och Abso.
You can change the Eos if you like - its a crap ship with a crap bonus. |
kai il
I Own Four Sheep Nyratic
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Posted - 2013.06.02 05:35:00 -
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leave them alone, you already changed the cyclone to missiles so I cant use ACs on it and have to use a sleipnir, dont ruin this ship for me to. |
Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
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Posted - 2013.06.02 05:39:00 -
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yes please
i have also been wondering why the hulls have sayd the same. |
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Veyer Erastus
Red-dormice
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Posted - 2013.06.02 05:48:00 -
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Please, spare Sleipnir. It's one of the most beautiful Minm ships, with Cyclone being missile oriented and Claymore link oriented. |
Sushi Nardieu
Bite Me inc Bitten.
128
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:06:00 -
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not really that pumped for this change but I don't strongly oppose it either. The Guns of Knowledge-á |
XXSketchxx
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:15:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:This is something I've been thinking about during my predesign for the command ships.
I'll start with this disclaimer, we will never feel that we need to make hull designs match the function of every ship. So there's no NEED to switch the hulls on any command ships. This is not something we've decided to do, but it is something we could do and would like your opinions on.
It might be interesting to convert half the command ships into the other BC hull, picking the one that matches their weapon type at the T1 level.
That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull This is the kind of thing that we'd expect many people would have strong opinions about, and since it wouldn't have direct gameplay effects we wouldn't consider it worth doing unless there was some significant community support for the idea that overwhelms the opposition.
So, hypothetically, what do you guys think?
Please don't make my nighthawk ugly.
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DeLindsay
Galaxies Fall
193
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:17:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:That would (potentially) mean:
Eos would use the Myrm hull Sleipnir would use the Hurricane hull Abso would use the Harb hull Nighthawk would use the Drake hull Do eet, DO IT NAOW!! The Myrmidon has always been my favorite ship and I would fly the EOS constantly if it looked like the Myrmidon but was a superior Drone Boat like the Devs have hinted at, with 125mb bandwidth and a Drone bay larger than the Myrm (but smaller than the Domi/Ishtar).
Quote:Please don't make my nighthawk ugly. The Nighthawks is already ugly, but making it look like a Drake isn't all that much of an improvement. The Sleipnir as the Cane would be very nice. The Operative:-á"There are a lot of innocent people being killed in the air right now".
Capt. Malcolm Reynolds:-á"You have no idea how true that is". |
Alejan Gerakh
Homicidal Teddy Bears
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:19:00 -
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Veyer Erastus wrote:Please, spare Sleipnir. It's one of the most beautiful Minm ships, with Cyclone being missile oriented and Claymore link oriented. Considering they appear to be changing Command Ships so there won't be a 'link oriented' one or a 'dedicated combat' one, your last point seems moot.
As for my opinion, as a Minmatar pilot and longtime fan and pilot of the Hurricane, I actually look forward to a proper Tech 2 variant in the form of a revised Sleipnir. "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
"They called the Enterprise a garbage scow! Sir."
Chaotic Good - The ends justify blowing $#!t up. |
Siempre Duskwraith
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:31:00 -
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So this is how I watch my beloved Nighthawk get it model changed to what I think is possibly the ugliest ship in the game.
Please don't. I have an alt just for the Nighthawk. If you are actually going to do this tell me now so I can cancel it. I wish I was kidding. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium
3566
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:32:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:Also, as a Khanid pilot I have to add: Do not mess with the black beauty !
The Damnation isn't on the list :P
Both the Prophecy and Damnation are missile boats, so everything's just fine and dandy there! Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |
Veyer Erastus
Red-dormice
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:42:00 -
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Alejan Gerakh wrote:Veyer Erastus wrote:Please, spare Sleipnir. It's one of the most beautiful Minm ships, with Cyclone being missile oriented and Claymore link oriented. Considering they appear to be changing Command Ships so there won't be a 'link oriented' one or a 'dedicated combat' one, your last point seems moot. As for my opinion, as a Minmatar pilot and longtime fan and pilot of the Hurricane, I actually look forward to a proper Tech 2 variant in the form of a revised Sleipnir.
If you read dev blog you know that Claymore is becoming missile ship. Which means there will be no Cyclone hull with projectile weaponry. You want some diversity in hulls - give cane model to Claymore. Than we will have projectile&missile canes and projectile&missile cyclones. Don't dump one of the most awesome Minmatar hulls on missile dump. |
PavlikX
You are in da lock
66
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Posted - 2013.06.02 06:58:00 -
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As someone said before, prophecy hull looks like more armored, meantime harbinger is not. I don't like it. People voting "yes" for all 4 ships, meaning only one or two. If it possible it would be great if absolution will use the old hull.
And yes, one more thing. People making compares about roles and weapons of t1 hulls. If t1 hull have missiles, t2 must have missiles too. With prophecy this works even better. Prophecy hull have armor resists bonuses, can be armed with missiles and laser turrets both. T2 variant looks like continuation of main idea in two directions. |
Jhon Brown
Somali Coast Guard BootCamp
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Posted - 2013.06.02 07:17:00 -
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Pretend the Sleipnir is the Launcher and just leave it alone
Hurricane is a beautiful hull, but I also really like the Cyclone. I vote to leave them as-is. |
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