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Kate stark
919
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Posted - 2013.12.03 06:23:00 -
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Octoven wrote:CCP Guard wrote: For the time being we are pausing all plans for rare in-game rewards to select third party contributors. We want to carefully consider your feedback and determine what our framework should be and what improvements to the level of transparency are needed so that the rewards program serves its intended purpose of making the EVE Universe a better place. WeGÇÖll also make prizes and rewards a summit topic when the CSM visits us this winter, as well as consult with them until that time. Some of this work has already started, and the result will be a formalized and transparent framework for everything related to supporting all types of fansites and third-party community services. We aim to circulate our initial design to the CSM in the next few days, and you should see a dev blog in a few weeks.
ThatGÇÖs it for now, let us know your thoughts.
I take it CCP has unpaused the plans for rare in-game rewards to select third party contributors. The worst bit is the Stratios Emergency Responder should never have been given out to these parties. The Ishukone Watch Scorpions at least were re-skined with worst stats than any other scorpions. The Strat Emergency Reponder has nearly twice better stats. So I have a few questions here. Why was the way to obtain these ships not revealed to the player base prior to them being put in game? Why are select players being given ships that exceed the stats of the ship for which it is based off of? I believe giving certain players stuff that is free and unique is fine but it must NOT be better than an item for which you can get in game by working at it. The emergency responder is better than the stratios and to be frank here that is a bit of an insult to the community. As I stated, if you wish to give somer blink or any other site rare-in game ships that are re-skinned that is fine with me; however, I have issue with the fact its stats are better. The stats on the Emergency Responder need to be adjusted to match those of the standard Stratios.
before it was deleted we discussed this; the more likely outcome is that somer were not one of the "select third party contributors" subject to the pause. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
2648
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Posted - 2013.12.03 10:17:00 -
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So CCP are already back on the "handing out special shinies to people they like" kick?
After months of desperately ignoring the outcry from the last time it happened, they do it right again
hahahahahaha |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1221
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Posted - 2013.12.03 10:21:00 -
[1683] - Quote
TheGunslinger42 wrote:So CCP are already back on the "handing out special shinies to people they like" kick?
After months of desperately ignoring the outcry from the last time it happened, they do it right again
hahahahahaha
Last year would like to hear your comments
Please write to them at
Old Hat Po Box 1998 The Heap Boring OldTwaddle Getwiththeprogrammeshire C1 1PP High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Dark Magni
The Tuskers
56
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Posted - 2013.12.03 11:09:00 -
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Strat Emergency Reponder ....
What? |
Tina Tin Tits
Perkone Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2013.12.03 13:56:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:TheGunslinger42 wrote:So CCP are already back on the "handing out special shinies to people they like" kick?
After months of desperately ignoring the outcry from the last time it happened, they do it right again
hahahahahaha Last year would like to hear your comments Please write to them at Old Hat Po Box 1998 The Heap Boring OldTwaddle Getwiththeprogrammeshire C1 1PP
Which is sadder?
Coming here to complain about CCP's behaviour which annoys you? Or coming here because you dont care to complain about people who do care?
Whilst I dont care enough to quit playing, it has annoyed me enough to rationalise and close some accounts. This character is now sold, and its account closed. |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1227
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:01:00 -
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Tina Tin **** wrote:
Which is sadder?
Coming here to complain about CCP's behaviour which annoys you? Or coming here because you dont care to complain about people who do care?
Whilst I dont care enough to quit playing, it has annoyed me enough to rationalise and close some accounts. This character is now sold, and its account closed.
Option 3
Thinking you know whats being talked about when you clearly dont, then commenting and saying "neener neener neener you can hurt me because I care so little I sold this toon" like anyone gives a stuff
Oh and suggesting that theres anything in spaceship pixels game that isnt sad anyway High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
287
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:05:00 -
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Wasn't the Emergency Responder the version that CCP provided for the Somer EVE Vegas lottery to replace the unique ships they were about to make non-unique?
i.e. nothing new, we discussed this ages ago, as Ramona was trying to point out but the subtlety was too much for a few people |
Tina Tin Tits
Perkone Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:40:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:[quote=Tina Tin ****]
Thinking you know whats being talked about when you clearly dont, then commenting and saying "neener neener neener you can hurt me because I care so little I sold this toon" like anyone gives a stuff
I suggest you read what i said again, because you clearly failed to comprehend it. |
Ramona McCandless
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1232
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Posted - 2013.12.03 14:45:00 -
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Tina Tin **** wrote:
I suggest you read what i said again, because you clearly failed to comprehend it.
Same back with knobs on High Priestess of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh "You are, quite literally, the best person ever." --áDomanique Altares,-áRifterlings "Send Ramona your ISK, and biomass." --áJarod Garamonde,-áSardaukar Merc Guild |
Kate stark
920
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Posted - 2013.12.03 18:30:00 -
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Ruskarn Andedare wrote:Wasn't the Emergency Responder the version that CCP provided for the Somer EVE Vegas lottery to replace the unique ships they were about to make non-unique?
i.e. nothing new, we discussed this ages ago, as Ramona was trying to point out but the subtlety was too much for a few people
no idea.
i know, ccp could reply to the thread and tell us! Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
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Dark Magni
The Tuskers
56
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Posted - 2013.12.04 10:43:00 -
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Dear CCP,
What is the new policy with respect to CCP giveaways?
In addition what is CCP's position with respect to the claims that Somer has received unfair favouritism?
I put these questions simply, and I think politely. I do not see why a reply would not be appropriate.
Dark |
Frying Doom
3413
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:06:00 -
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Thank god for the new games coming out where customer service does not mean ignoring your customers. Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!! |
GreenSeed
766
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:13:00 -
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the same 5 - 6 players keep bumping the thread... go away please, most people do not share your fake outrage. |
Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate Caldari State
247
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:34:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:the same 5 - 6 players keep bumping the thread... go away please, most people do not share your fake outrage.
Maybe not, but thanks for the bump. Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |
Nanatoa
473
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Posted - 2013.12.04 22:49:00 -
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Those who were following my 16B bait-and-switch scam saga, where SOMER BLINK did not grant my request for a refund after prizes in their contest were withdrawn, with SOMER blaming CCP for changing the prizes: a lead GM has confirmed (and I am paraphrasing here, as quoting him would be against the rules) that this contest was run by SOMER BLINK, with no oversight from CCP. The lead GM also said that no one from CCP had said that SOMER BLINK wouldn't scam, only that they haven't scammed in the past. "Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate Caldari State
247
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Posted - 2013.12.04 23:08:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Those who were following my 16B bait-and-switch scam saga, where SOMER BLINK did not grant my request for a refund after prizes in their contest were withdrawn, with SOMER blaming CCP for changing the prizes: a lead GM has confirmed (and I am paraphrasing here, as quoting him would be against the rules) that this contest was run by SOMER BLINK, with no oversight from CCP. The lead GM also said that no one from CCP had said that SOMER BLINK wouldn't scam, only that they haven't scammed in the past.
That's rather a jerk move on CCP's part, to try to dump all the responsibility on SOMER. Especially after CCP came out and said that SOMER had no control over the change in prizes, as it was CCP's decision in response to the player outrage. Since CCP made the change, they should bear primary responsibility for ensuring resulting reimbursements. Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |
Nanatoa
473
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Posted - 2013.12.04 23:20:00 -
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Kirren D'marr wrote:That's rather a jerk move on CCP's part, to try to dump all the responsibility on SOMER. Especially after CCP came out and said that SOMER had no control over the change in prizes, as it was CCP's decision in response to the player outrage. Since CCP made the change, they should bear primary responsibility for ensuring resulting reimbursements.
I disagree, as this was SOMER BLINK's contest, but I'll follow your line of thinking. Let's assume this is CCP's responsibility, and let's assume that SOMER BLINK is "trustworthy and reliable" as a dev has claimed (well before a GM confirmed SOMER BLINK did scam me) - why doesn't SOMER refund me my 16B and then claim the 16B from CCP?
Because right now the result is that SOMER is sitting on my 16B while pointing at CCP. SOMER has my 16B, I have nothing, and both SOMER and CCP point at eachother. Why doesn't SOMER give me my 16B back and then SOMER and CCP can fight amongst themselves who should ultimately pay for that refund? "Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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Pinky Hops
Spartan's DNA Apex.
93
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Posted - 2013.12.04 23:48:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Kirren D'marr wrote:That's rather a jerk move on CCP's part, to try to dump all the responsibility on SOMER. Especially after CCP came out and said that SOMER had no control over the change in prizes, as it was CCP's decision in response to the player outrage. Since CCP made the change, they should bear primary responsibility for ensuring resulting reimbursements. I disagree, as this was SOMER BLINK's contest, but I'll follow your line of thinking. Let's assume this is CCP's responsibility, and let's assume that SOMER BLINK is "trustworthy and reliable" as a dev has claimed (well before a GM confirmed SOMER BLINK did scam me) - why doesn't SOMER refund me my 16B and then claim the 16B from CCP? Because right now the result is that SOMER is sitting on my 16B while pointing at CCP. SOMER has my 16B, I have nothing, and both SOMER and CCP point at eachother. Why doesn't SOMER give me my 16B back and then SOMER and CCP can fight amongst themselves who should ultimately pay for that refund?
Well, probably because it's not your ISK anymore. It's SOMER's. So you should probably stop referring to as "your ISK"
The entire concept of SOMER is a scam. They charge more in tickets than the prizes cost. It's a for-profit enterprise. The more ISK you give them, the more you will lose.
The only thing your story does for me is the cement how ridiculous it is for CCP to trust SOMER with distributing prizes. They scam people.
CCP should not be officially affiliated with scammers. |
Kirren D'marr
State Protectorate Caldari State
247
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Posted - 2013.12.04 23:50:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Kirren D'marr wrote:That's rather a jerk move on CCP's part, to try to dump all the responsibility on SOMER. Especially after CCP came out and said that SOMER had no control over the change in prizes, as it was CCP's decision in response to the player outrage. Since CCP made the change, they should bear primary responsibility for ensuring resulting reimbursements. I disagree, as this was SOMER BLINK's contest, but I'll follow your line of thinking. Let's assume this is CCP's responsibility, and let's assume that SOMER BLINK is "trustworthy and reliable" as a dev has claimed (well before a GM confirmed SOMER BLINK did scam me) - why doesn't SOMER refund me my 16B and then claim the 16B from CCP? Because right now the result is that SOMER is sitting on my 16B while pointing at CCP. SOMER has my 16B, I have nothing, and both SOMER and CCP point at eachother. Why doesn't SOMER give me my 16B back and then SOMER and CCP can fight amongst themselves who should ultimately pay for that refund?
Oh, I don't disagree that SOMER should be reimbursing you; I just think that since the prize change was CCP's doing, they should be making sure that it happens. Frankly, I think that both entities are culpable; I was just pointing out that I don't think CCP should get to weasel out of their share of the responsibility. Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.-á-á-á-á-á - Kina Ayami |
Kate stark
920
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Posted - 2013.12.05 06:20:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:the same 5 - 6 players keep bumping the thread... go away please, most people do not share your fake outrage. no. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5283
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Posted - 2013.12.05 06:23:00 -
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Pinky Hops wrote:Nanatoa wrote:Kirren D'marr wrote:That's rather a jerk move on CCP's part, to try to dump all the responsibility on SOMER. Especially after CCP came out and said that SOMER had no control over the change in prizes, as it was CCP's decision in response to the player outrage. Since CCP made the change, they should bear primary responsibility for ensuring resulting reimbursements. I disagree, as this was SOMER BLINK's contest, but I'll follow your line of thinking. Let's assume this is CCP's responsibility, and let's assume that SOMER BLINK is "trustworthy and reliable" as a dev has claimed (well before a GM confirmed SOMER BLINK did scam me) - why doesn't SOMER refund me my 16B and then claim the 16B from CCP? Because right now the result is that SOMER is sitting on my 16B while pointing at CCP. SOMER has my 16B, I have nothing, and both SOMER and CCP point at eachother. Why doesn't SOMER give me my 16B back and then SOMER and CCP can fight amongst themselves who should ultimately pay for that refund? Well, probably because it's not your ISK anymore. It's SOMER's. So you should probably stop referring to as "your ISK" The entire concept of SOMER is a scam. They charge more in tickets than the prizes cost. It's a for-profit enterprise. The more ISK you give them, the more you will lose. The only thing your story does for me is the cement how ridiculous it is for CCP to trust SOMER with distributing prizes. They scam people. CCP should not be officially affiliated with scammers. good honest contributors to the community, you mean There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Dark Magni
The Tuskers
56
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Posted - 2013.12.05 08:33:00 -
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CCP is still snubbing this whole dialogue. |
RAW23
571
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Posted - 2013.12.05 08:38:00 -
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GreenSeed wrote:the same 5 - 6 players keep bumping the thread... go away please, most people do not share your fake outrage.
Lots of us do but we're letting these guys carry the burden coz we're lazy There are two types of EVE player:
those who believe there are two types of EVE player and those who do not. |
The Legendary Soldier
OreSum
332
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Posted - 2013.12.05 09:03:00 -
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I just got a customer service survey for the ticket I logged complaining about moderation on this thread.
Irony in email form... ^^ Need to place a high-sec POS? Premade corps for sale, or your corps standings boosted. Trading since January 2012. Many corps sold/boosted - see my thread: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=63128&find=unread |
Archibald Thistlewaite III
289
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Posted - 2013.12.05 09:22:00 -
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RAW23 wrote:GreenSeed wrote:the same 5 - 6 players keep bumping the thread... go away please, most people do not share your fake outrage. Lots of us do but we're letting these guys carry the burden coz we're lazy
Confirming I'm lazy too. |
TheGunslinger42
All Web Investigations
2650
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Posted - 2013.12.05 09:48:00 -
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Nanatoa wrote:Those who were following my 16B bait-and-switch scam saga, where SOMER BLINK did not grant my request for a refund after prizes in their contest were withdrawn, with SOMER blaming CCP for changing the prizes: a lead GM has confirmed (and I am paraphrasing here, as quoting him would be against the rules) that this contest was run by SOMER BLINK, with no oversight from CCP. The lead GM also said that no one from CCP had said that SOMER BLINK wouldn't scam, only that they haven't scammed in the past.
So is the GM confirming that somer are scammers?
Scammers who used official CCP sanctioned items/events to scam?
And using what Navigator had said to facilitate said scam?
Isn't that against the new scamming rules?
And can we get an official update from Navigator correcting his initial statements about how totally legit and cool somer are and just give them isk plz |
Kate stark
922
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:24:00 -
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The Legendary Soldier wrote: I just got a customer service survey for the ticket I logged complaining about moderation on this thread.
Irony in email form... ^^
this is not the survey you are looking for. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this. |
Leigh Akiga
Trickle Down Economics
367
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Posted - 2013.12.05 19:43:00 -
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Dark Magni wrote:Dear CCP,
What is the new policy with respect to CCP giveaways?
In addition what is CCP's position with respect to the claims that Somer has received unfair favouritism?
I put these questions simply, and I think politely. I do not see why a reply would not be appropriate.
Dark
This is a good post right here and pretty much the crux of this thread. The silence is deafening.
What is the status of the emergency responder one of a kind half a trillion isk limited edition cruiser given to Somer? And why are you still doing this when you said you were gonna pause lol |
Nanatoa
473
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Posted - 2013.12.05 20:56:00 -
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TheGunslinger42 wrote:So is the GM confirming that somer are scammers?
The lead GM phrased his response very carefully. Did he say SOMER scammed? No. He did say that they wouldn't be doing anything, that they didn't say that SOMER wouldn't scam and that if SOMER had scammed (without actually going into if they did or not), they wouldn't be doing anything anyway.
It's just another event in EVE, even though this event was sponsered by CCP and endorsed by a CCP employee. The lead GM's stance is "buyer beware, even when we say it's all fine". "Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011
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Opia Munba
mss industry
19
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Posted - 2013.12.06 14:03:00 -
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Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote:RAW23 wrote:GreenSeed wrote:the same 5 - 6 players keep bumping the thread... go away please, most people do not share your fake outrage. Lots of us do but we're letting these guys carry the burden coz we're lazy Confirming I'm lazy too. same here
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