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Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
252
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:11:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:...A bunch of insults and spurious arguments...
I'm simply taking action and urging others to do the same as is my right. Good to see how you null bigots and big alliance shills feel on open display for all to see. You just can't stand anyone with a differing opinion can you?
Hypocrite. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5140
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:13:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Why are so many of you angered by this?
He can claim he represents me all he wants. And even believe it, if he wants.
Doesn't change that I have not signed a paper anywhere empowering, mandating or consenting to him representing me.
To me, he's just some guy who got votes from a small population of the game and gets to chat with CCP.
Do I care? No lol. Does he represent me? No.
Because your behavior is reprehensible and your views are incorrect. |
Nick Bete
The Scope Gallente Federation
252
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:15:00 -
[1233] - Quote
By the way, ISD, you have a member of the CSM aggressively trolling and flaming the very players he's supposed to be representing. Are you going to moderate him as well? |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
429
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:15:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Because your behavior is reprehensible and your views are incorrect.
Deal with it.
Not that any of that is true in the first place. |
Sanara Estidal
Pro Synergy
16
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:17:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:...A bunch of insults and spurious arguments... I'm simply taking action and urging others to do the same as is my right. Good to see how you null bigots and big alliance shills feel on open display for all to see. You just can't stand anyone with a differing opinion can you? Hypocrite. It is your right. So hurry up and leave. If you legitimately feel that is the way you can express your opinion, and you don't think the existing methods of getting your views across to CCP are effective, you are well within your right to leave.
I would point out however that telling others the only way to make a change is to leave, then not leaving yourself makes you a hypocrite. You are telling other people to stand by their convictions and make themselves heard by quitting, yet not doing so yourself. Is that because you are not convinced that is actually the best course of action (and are in fact simply trying to use scare tactics), or is it because you lack the willpower to leave the game behind? |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5144
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:18:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:...A bunch of insults and spurious arguments... I'm simply taking action and urging others to do the same as is my right. Good to see how you null bigots and big alliance shills feel on open display for all to see. You just can't stand anyone with a differing opinion can you? Hypocrite.
I wasn't making any commnet about null. I was commenting about how idiotic it is to suggest to people that they hurt the real life people who make EVE and the entire EVe community because CCP makes a change to the game that isn't in any way any kind of big deal.
I've seen real people lose real money in the stock market, or lose their jobs unfairly, or get hurt due to a criminal act who didn't respond as childishly as you are to CCP swapping a few 1s and 0s in a game they own and produce.
Recently CCP introduced an item (the ESS) that nerfed my null income by 5%. I posted that I thought it was a bad idea and....that's all. I didn't bat phone Alliance leaders demanding they encourage their 90,000 members to unsub lol. Why didn't I?
Because I'm an adult who can keep a video game in context. Don't get mad at me because you can't son. |
Sanara Estidal
Pro Synergy
16
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:19:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:By the way, ISD, you have a member of the CSM aggressively trolling and flaming the very players he's supposed to be representing. Are you going to moderate him as well? I'm sure if he broke a forum rule, he would be moderated. Telling a member of the player base he represents that they are represented and giving valid options to deal with their dislike of the situation however is not against the rules. |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
16880
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:20:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Because your behavior is reprehensible and your views are incorrect. Deal with it. Jenn is by pointing out you are wrong. Not that it needs much pointing out tbh.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Take a chill pill. Your anger levels are not healthy, or justified. Irony? Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5144
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:20:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Because your behavior is reprehensible and your views are incorrect. Deal with it. Not that any of that is true in the first place. Take a chill pill. Your anger levels are not healthy, or justified.
Who said i was angry. I was explaining to you how your own actions created the results you were questioning. You don't seem to be able to take resonjsibility for yourself or your actions, which I find sad...but amusing lol. Thank you for creating forum content, you General Discussion Emergent gameplayer you |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
430
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:21:00 -
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I think your taking a game a little too seriously.
Might be time to stop typing and take a short walk. |
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6761
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:21:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Why are so many of you angered by this?
He can claim he represents me all he wants. And even believe it, if he wants.
Doesn't change that I have not signed a paper anywhere empowering, mandating or consenting to him representing me.
To me, he's just some random guy somewhere in the world who means absolutely nothing to me, who got votes from a small population of the game and gets to chat with CCP.
Do I care? No lol. Does he represent me? No. the sense in which he represents you is not the sense in which you would need to sign a paper for
perhaps english is not your first language. perhaps you have a bizzarely legalistic and limited view of what 'represent' means. perhaps you said a dumb thing and are struggling for excuses to not be wrong
one thing is sure, however: malcanis does represent you whether you like or or not and whether you understand what represent means or not Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
430
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:23:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:one thing is sure, however: malcanis does represent you whether you like or or not and whether you understand what represent means or not
He represents me about as much as a waiter does in a restaurant, and in much the same capacity. |
Sanara Estidal
Pro Synergy
16
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:25:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:I think your taking a game a little too seriously. Might be time to stop typing and take a short walk. Since you trimmed the quote and neither of the posts I posted would be considered "too serious" I'm not sure what you are referring to. Either way, it's quite amusing coming from you and your defiant claims that you are not represented, contrary to clearly laid out fact that you are, demanding others take a "chill pill" while you are clearly one of the only two people here who are angry.
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5144
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:25:00 -
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This is why Malcanis should run for CSM 9. I say we all go picket on Malc's street to he gives in and runs.
Without him, who will generate such....love.... from the less mentally stable among us? |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6767
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:27:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote: He represents me about as much as a waiter does in a restaurant, and in much the same capacity.
I'm here enjoying the service of the game, and if he wants to take my choices to the chefs in the kitchen, sure.
i am unsure why you have chosen to be so aggressively wrong on such a simple issue of what words mean, but it is rapidly becoming apparent you must have said something extremely dumb, and once called on it realized you were wrong and are seeking to try to find increasingly tortured explanations for why you are actually right instead of clearly wrong
i suggest a humble, honest and frank admission you were wrong and have realized that. you will find you will almost always be thought of more highly, and that such an admission will be less embarrassing than a desperate attempt to avoid admitting something everyone already knows. Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20238
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:27:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:He represents me about as much as GǪeveryone else on the CSM: fully, until you make your voice heard through some other means. Oh, and just so you know, this is not one of those old 8-bit score boards: you can't go back to not being wrong by being wrong so many times it rolls over from 255 to 0.
Quote:I'm here enjoying the service of the game Sure doesn't seem like it.
Jenn aSide wrote:Edit, Malcanis AND Tippia for CSM 9, 10 if it's too late for 9. You are an awful person. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2345
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:28:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:He represents me about as much as a waiter does in a restaurant, and in much the same capacity.
You've very clearly made your point that you don't understand how representation works. Continuing to show that you don't get it by posting additional invalid comparisons does not contribute to the conversation. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14270
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:32:00 -
[1248] - Quote
Weaselior wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote: He represents me about as much as a waiter does in a restaurant, and in much the same capacity.
I'm here enjoying the service of the game, and if he wants to take my choices to the chefs in the kitchen, sure.
i am unsure why you have chosen to be so aggressively wrong on such a simple issue of what words mean, but it is rapidly becoming apparent you must have said something extremely dumb, and once called on it realized you were wrong and are seeking to try to find increasingly tortured explanations for why you are actually right instead of clearly wrong i suggest a humble, honest and frank admission you were wrong and have realized that. you will find you will almost always be thought of more highly, and that such an admission will be less embarrassing than a desperate attempt to avoid admitting something everyone already knows.
What's the betting that he's also a "Sovereign Citizen"? His rhetoric is right alongside theirs.
1 Kings 12:11
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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3936
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:32:00 -
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This thread alone should be reason enough for Malcanis to run for CSM. Do it. Do it now. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
430
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:32:00 -
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I do not recognise or acknowledge that he represents me in anyway shape or form.
If you think that is stupid, wrong, not understanding what "representation" means or anything else for that matter, that is your prerogative to think so.
Doesn't change my position on the matter one bit.
To me, he is just some random guy somewhere in the world who means about as much to me as any other random guy somewhere in the world.
Good for him that he has CCP's ear. Even better if he actually has the communities unilateral interests at heart.
My relationship with CCP is determined by the EULA, the law and the money I pay to enjoy their service.
Malcanis or his soapbox doesn't enter into that relationship in the least bit. |
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
426
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:33:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil! The rules:3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.12. Spamming is prohibited.
Spam is defined as the repetitive posting of the same topic or nonsensical post that has no substance and is often designed to annoy other forum users. This can include the words GÇ£firstGÇ¥, GÇ£go back to (insert other game name)GÇ¥ and other such posts that contribute no value to forum discussion. Spamming also includes the posting of ASCII art within a forum post. 26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
Please kill this abomination of a thread. Its not even remotely close to being on topic anymore. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14270
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:34:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:This thread alone should be reason enough for Malcanis to run for CSM. Do it. Do it now.
It's tempting, but I'm honestly finding time constraints are a problem, what with all this representing that I'm not doing.
1 Kings 12:11
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Batelle
Tymast Industries 150th
2345
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:35:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote: Please kill this abomination of a thread. Its not even remotely close to being on topic anymore.
Plus I think I slam-dunked the OP on page 1, so yeah we're done here. "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20238
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:35:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:I do not recognise or acknowledge that he represents me in anyway shape or form. GǪand yet he does.
Quote:Doesn't change my position on the matter one bit. Your position doesn't matter. What matters is what you do. Did you make your voice heard through other means? No? Then he represents you by default.
Quote:My relationship with CCP is determined by the EULA, the law and the money I pay to enjoy their service. Malcanis or his soapbox doesn't enter into that relationship in the least bit. GǪand part of that agreement is that he is your representative on the CSM unless you make your voice heard through other means.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3938
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:38:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:This thread alone should be reason enough for Malcanis to run for CSM. Do it. Do it now. It's tempting, but I'm honestly finding time constraints are a problem, what with all this representing that I'm not doing. Welp, we'll probably have a No Macanis for CSM campaign. Judging from this thread it will still be reasonably successful I think. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1734
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:38:00 -
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Nick Bete wrote:By the way, ISD, you have a member of the CSM aggressively trolling and flaming the very players he's supposed to be representing. Are you going to moderate him as well?
Look who doesn't know what trolling is. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20241
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:42:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Jake Warbird wrote:This thread alone should be reason enough for Malcanis to run for CSM. Do it. Do it now. It's tempting, but I'm honestly finding time constraints are a problem, what with all this representing that I'm not doing. What if we promise to only vote a little so you don't have to attend as much? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
430
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:43:00 -
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Tippia wrote:GǪand part of that agreement and the services they provide is that he is your representative on the CSM unless you make your voice heard through other means.
Citation needed. |
Sanara Estidal
Pro Synergy
18
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:43:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Weaselior wrote:one thing is sure, however: malcanis does represent you whether you like or or not and whether you understand what represent means or not He represents me about as much as a waiter does in a restaurant, and in much the same capacity. I'm here enjoying the service of the game, and if he wants to take my choices to the chefs in the kitchen, sure. No, he represents you as mush as an elected representative of the people represents the people, since that's what he actually is. He has been voted to represent the players of EVE and that's what he does. All the time you play EVE, he represents you. Deal with it. |
Sanara Estidal
Pro Synergy
21
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:49:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Sanara Estidal wrote:All the time you play EVE, he represents you. Deal with it. He's a random bloke somewhere in the world with a soapbox as a reward for a tiny % of the populations vote. You deal with that ;) It really doesn't matter how much you kick and scream, and tell people they are wrong, the defining attribute of a CSM member is that they represent EVE players. So if you play EVE, you are represented. This is a fact. |
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