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Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
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Posted - 2014.06.21 12:58:00 -
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Ok first things first, Not a whine thread! I think it's fine that people can be assploded in high sec as they are. What confuses me is why so many do it.
I get freighter ganks, mostly that's for iskies but miners puzzles me.
Bare with me here because I know this is could be seen as troll bait so first I will lay out my experiences ganking miners.
I tried it for maybe a few days, racked up about 4 orca and 20 or so hulk/mack kills quite a while back. Got bored because it's so easy, tears were not that common and not so tasty compared to pvper tears. All in all I found it lacklustre. Used up my suicide cat/thrasher collection then went back to pewing wt's.
How about you guys that do it permanently? Surely you must be doing this on alts as i can't imagine it enough to sustain playing a main for?
I am genuinely interested, why do you do it? |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
1290
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:02:00 -
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Because it's fun, obviously. The same reason you do anything in a video game. www.everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com
Psychotic Monk for CSM9 |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
552
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:07:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:Because it's fun, obviously. The same reason you do anything in a video game.
So obvious perhaps I should have asked why it's fun instead?
If you partake would you care to elaborate on why it's fun? |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:09:00 -
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To lessen their sense of insignificance. By inciting a response from someone else they can tell themselves they matter and have an effect on the world. Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:15:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote:Because it's fun, obviously. The same reason you do anything in a video game. So obvious perhaps I should have asked why it's fun instead? If you partake would you care to elaborate on why it's fun?
Treat it like sex....
Clumsy, awkward and maybe even a little bit scary at first. Once you get that out of the way, you realize it's fun, exiting, and you want to do it all the time.
Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:15:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:I tried it for maybe a few days, racked up about 4 orca and 20 or so hulk/mack kills quite a while back. Got bored because it's so easy, tears were not that common and not so tasty compared to pvper tears. You need a gimmick to get the really tasty tears.
CODE.s quasi-religious RP and Goons Jihad Swarm are good examples of gimmicks that have proved effective at harvesting sweet sweet tears on an industrial scale.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:25:00 -
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This is EVE. People get exploded. Very simple...
Each to their own way of having fun.... |
Ahost Gceo
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:33:00 -
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Miners tend to think that deadspace mods and faction ORE Strip Miners are good things to have on their barges. When they drop expect mad profit. I'm a friggin' banana. |
Felicity Love
Ka'ra Shabuir Inc.
1942
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:35:00 -
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... it's like a quickie...
"Psssshhhhhhhhhhhhhh" -á-- That ambiguous and pseudo-technical term used by management to describe, to staff, how frakking cool something looks inside their own heads.
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Anomaly One
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:38:00 -
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It's fun when you do it for a purpose for me it lessens the competition I do not like afk miners.. Psychotic Monk for CSM9 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=326497 you want content in highsec? vote Monk |
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BuckStrider
Nano-Tech Experiments
320
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:39:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:I tried it for maybe a few days, racked up about 4 orca and 20 or so hulk/mack kills quite a while back. Got bored because it's so easy, tears were not that common and not so tasty compared to pvper tears. You need a gimmick to get the really tasty tears. CODE.s quasi-religious RP and Goons Jihad Swarm are good examples of gimmicks that have proved effective at harvesting sweet sweet tears on an industrial scale.
^^ this and you might want to look up The Devil's Warrior Alliance
Mine smart. Mine safe. Purchase your mining permit today...... www.minerbumping.com |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:40:00 -
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I live for the applause, applause, applause.
I live for the way that they scream and howl at me, and the applause, applause, applause. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
Psychotic Monk for CSM9. |
Silky Cyno
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:45:00 -
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Some people like real fights Vs people that shoot back, some people shoot miners. |
Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin Amarrian Commandos
552
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:53:00 -
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Cheers guys, so far it primarily is less about the shooting and more about the effects afterwards and I'm just terrible at getting that bit then. |
Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:56:00 -
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because reminding people that High Security doesn't mean 100% safety and that you can and will be punished for not paying attention is extremely satisfying. |
Atalia Madeveda
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.06.21 13:58:00 -
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Some barges can be ganked for less than their fittings cost. Profit right there. It can also be funny. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19135
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Posted - 2014.06.21 14:03:00 -
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Silky Cyno wrote:Some people like real fights Vs people that shoot back, some people shoot miners. Miners have the tools to shoot back, their drone bays aren't restricted to mining drones. Most choose not to, just as most of them choose to not fit their ships with a tank.
Choices have consequences.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Intar Medris
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.21 14:14:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Silky Cyno wrote:Some people like real fights Vs people that shoot back, some people shoot miners. Miners have the tools to shoot back, their drone bays aren't restricted to mining drones. Most choose not to, just as most of them choose to not fit their ships with a tank. Choices have consequences.
5 Hobgoblin II drones aren't going to keep a Hulk from being blown to bits by even just one Gank fit Cat. I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.21 14:16:00 -
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I support it because it teaches people to use safe Standards and Practices when operating a space vehicle in High Sec "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
858
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Posted - 2014.06.21 14:19:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:I support it because it teaches people to use safe Standards and Practices when operating a space vehicle in High Sec
I do not mine and never have.
BUT if I did there is no way I would be stupid enough to tank a mining barge. You would probably have to lose a barge every 2 days to make up for the lost income the tank causes.
Sensibly miners are better off just counting barge replacement as one of the "costs" and ignoring tank. |
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19135
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Posted - 2014.06.21 14:21:00 -
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Intar Medris wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Silky Cyno wrote:Some people like real fights Vs people that shoot back, some people shoot miners. Miners have the tools to shoot back, their drone bays aren't restricted to mining drones. Most choose not to, just as most of them choose to not fit their ships with a tank. Choices have consequences. 5 Hobgoblin II drones aren't going to keep a Hulk from being blown to bits by even just one Gank fit Cat. If you're flying a Hulk solo you're doing it wrong. It's a ship that is meant to be used in a fleet with other barges and exhumers and an Orca, preferably fitted with shield harmonising link in support; 5 drones might not do much good, 15+ will.
Personally I fly a Procurer with a brick tank, DDAs and tackle.
Nil mortifi sine lucre |
Hra Neuvosto
FinFleet Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.06.21 14:21:00 -
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Silky Cyno wrote:Some people like real fights Vs people that shoot back, some people shoot miners. Can't you like both? |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
858
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Posted - 2014.06.21 14:24:00 -
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Hra Neuvosto wrote:Silky Cyno wrote:Some people like real fights Vs people that shoot back, some people shoot miners. Can't you like both?
Would that make you bi-gankual ? |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.21 14:31:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Hra Neuvosto wrote:Silky Cyno wrote:Some people like real fights Vs people that shoot back, some people shoot miners. Can't you like both? Would that make you bi-gankual ?
Shhh its a sub-text "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
Intar Medris
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.21 15:34:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:I support it because it teaches people to use safe Standards and Practices when operating a space vehicle in High Sec I do not mine and never have. BUT if I did there is no way I would be stupid enough to tank a mining barge. You would probably have to lose a barge every 2 days to make up for the lost income the tank causes. Sensibly miners are better off just counting barge replacement as one of the "costs" and ignoring tank.
With the slight boost to the Hulk's CPU you can fit a Invul Field II, and keep your 2 MLU IIs.
I try to be nice and mind my business just shooting lasers at rocks. There is just way too many asshats in New Eden for that to happen. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Drunk 'n' Disorderly
1242
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Posted - 2014.06.21 15:45:00 -
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Sometimes deadspace loot... TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
5599
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Posted - 2014.06.21 15:47:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:I support it because it teaches people to use safe Standards and Practices when operating a space vehicle in High Sec I do not mine and never have. BUT if I did there is no way I would be stupid enough to tank a mining barge. You would probably have to lose a barge every 2 days to make up for the lost income the tank causes.
Your maths are somewhat lacking
So..... you think you gain an extra 200m+ for a few hours mining each two days in exchange for a low slot and and medium slots you cant use to increase your yield with anyway?
Yeah, you are right
Youve never High Sec mined. "If someone doesn't appreciate your presence, make them appreciate your absence." - Anon. "How the **** can you think you are entitled to be such an *******?-áYou're lucky you're ALLOWED to have an opinion ..." - Solecist Project |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12079
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Posted - 2014.06.21 16:09:00 -
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Intar Medris wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Silky Cyno wrote:Some people like real fights Vs people that shoot back, some people shoot miners. Miners have the tools to shoot back, their drone bays aren't restricted to mining drones. Most choose not to, just as most of them choose to not fit their ships with a tank. Choices have consequences. 5 Hobgoblin II drones aren't going to keep a Hulk from being blown to bits by even just one Gank fit Cat.
5 ECM will. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Cazador 64
1st Steps Academy Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.06.21 16:17:00 -
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Hi sec gankers are every bit of a care bear as hi sec miners. I would go as far to say they are ever more care bear than the miner's, not only are they also hiding out in hi sec they are only targeting easy kills who can't shoot back.
Before I moved to WH space then later to null I would only look at miners if they were a war target. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
12087
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Posted - 2014.06.21 16:51:00 -
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Cazador 64 wrote:Hi sec gankers are every bit of a care bear as hi sec miners. I would go as far to say they are ever more care bear than the miner's, not only are they also hiding out in hi sec they are only targeting easy kills who can't shoot back.
Before I moved to WH space then later to null I would only look at miners if they were a war target.
Its not the gankers fault they don't shoot back, or fit a tank, or fly afk...
Ganking people is only as easy as people let it be. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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