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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:40:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:Yes I do think that you are largely correct in most of your observations. It is challenging to delineate their actions and they are (extremely deliberately so) operating in the grey area. However there are many other grey areas in the game and as evidence accumulates CCP should act, if nothing else just to send a message to whoever is next that their patience towards pushing the boundaries of grey areas is not unlimited.
A 'sportsmanship' clause would be great but is far too idealistic of a proposition i think.. given the diverse player base. I also think players should be allowed to slip a few times, nobody is perfect. However in this case i believe the underlying problem with this specific group is too big to ignore because too many players are affected.
So in grey areas I believe regulation should be applied on a case-by-case basis, just like it is frequently applied on a case-by-case basis by judges in real life.
So one thing where you and I are not quite on the same page is that "Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve"
I think in this case the problem grew too big and obvious. They perform this 'unsportsmanlike' (or I would rather say abusive) conduct daily and in high volumes. Many people are affected. This creates a poor environment and among other things i'm sure is detrimental to CCP's income. I'm sure many people with self-respect didn't have the energy for this kind of crusade and just unsubbed in disgust over some of their fellow players.
Ok, but this is the case now - CCP judges player actions on a case-by-case basis by a set of some would say too nebulous guidelines. The behaviour you claim to be "abusive" is done in the open, documented on minerbumping.com and here in the forum among other places. Clearly CCP doesn't have a problem with it in general as Code continues to operate.
I think if you are going to effect any change you will need more concrete rules you want implemented. Something beyond "Code are too mean, don't you see this CCP?" which seems to be your argument so far. |
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
526
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:40:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ... Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap. Kind of sad really.
Would you care to diagnose my mental issue I have Mister Space Doctor? I would really like to know! I mean I do like to shooting spaceships in a spaceship shooting game, that causes no harm in the real life. I mean if I am playing Call of Duty and shoot someone does that make me a bad person as well? If not how is it different? The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Mag's
the united
18009
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:40:00 -
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote: Cause CQ is the best and strongest independent caribean woman who don't need no man.
So you're guessing. Gotcha. No because I know English. He said why don't you shove, not I am going to shove. Basic comprehension there broski. We already established you are guessing, it's fine brah. Isn't guessing half of EVE?! I would tend to agree.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Anslo
Scope Works
18537
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:40:00 -
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Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Oh and that pilots name is spelt Carribean, not caribean. Just saying brah. Nice goal post change. Also confirming again that iPhone sucks to post from. You brought up the English argument chap. But I see you edited out the important part, good move sir. No lie this posted before I saw your counter.
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Anslo
Scope Works
18537
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:41:00 -
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Anslo wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ... Be real dude. A lot if these nerds just want a line drawn by CCP so they can skate close to it. Keeping it grey leaves room to adapt to people who do have issues and enjoy harassing players. People like this exist. People with mental issues causing them to enjoy making other people feel like crap. Kind of sad really. Would you care to diagnose my mental issue I have Mister Space Doctor? I would really like to know! I mean I do like to shooting spaceships in a spaceship shooting game, that causes no harm in the real life. I mean if I am playing Call of Duty and shoot someone does that make me a bad person as well? If not how is it different? Depends. I got the degree. Do you have the space bux?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5849
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:42:00 -
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Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ... Unfortunately there's no other way to identify and deal with this other than factual. Gloating over other people's suffering & pain is a staple of such conduct. In this case the group is also pretty large so there's some ill-motivated herd mentaility going on. I was actually pretty shocked as the group appears to be pretty tight knit as well considering their clearly abusive behavior. Yes there is. HARDEN THE **** UP. =]I[= |
Mag's
the united
18009
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:44:00 -
[127] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Anslo wrote:Mag's wrote:Oh and that pilots name is spelt Carribean, not caribean. Just saying brah. Nice goal post change. Also confirming again that iPhone sucks to post from. You brought up the English argument chap. But I see you edited out the important part, good move sir. No lie this posted before I saw your counter. I believe you. No really I do. But so what?
On a side issue. Removing grips from a Suzuki is a *****. They really glue those suckers on the throttle tube. It's like they are wielded.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
526
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:44:00 -
[128] - Quote
Anslo wrote:
Depends. I got the degree. Do you have the space bux?
I can provide you with a permit on the house!
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
527
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:48:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Ashlar Maidstone wrote: I agree with you on this, you can file a DMCA Takedown request with the fact that they are using extorion, racketeering and money laundering thru their website (minerbumping.com) as the base reasons why such a request is made. Also to petition CCP thru normal channels for the removal of all the accounts thru permabans and stating again the reasons why (Extortion, Racketeering, money laundery).
You are employing a Strawman logical fallacy in a rather weak attempt to debunk my argument, F for Fail. CCP regulates player conduct related to their game. I never claimed that you committed IRL crime. Yet it's fine to brand them with psychological disorders for playing a game ... Unfortunately there's no other way to identify and deal with this other than factual. Gloating over other people's suffering & pain is a staple of such conduct. In this case the group is also pretty large so there's some ill-motivated herd mentaility going on. I was actually pretty shocked as the group appears to be pretty tight knit as well considering their clearly abusive behavior. Yes there is. HARDEN THE **** UP.
I would have to agree completely, I mean it's not like CCP released anything ever about HTFU. The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
Xuixien
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
1798
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:51:00 -
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OP is a good example of the campaign of constant harassment certain player elements (miners, mission runners) use to bully content creators. Epic Space Cat |
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
334
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:52:00 -
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Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. the Code ALWAYS wins |
Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:52:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:OP is a good example of the campaign of constant harassment certain player elements (miners, mission runners) use to bully content creators.
There's a difference between being a content creator and being a jackass. Your post just gave me ebola. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5850
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:53:00 -
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote: Or stated regularly restate things to that effect.
CCP Falcon wrote:It's not a case of not "catering to the tearfilled entitled", it's a case of us staying true to the core of what EVE was built on.
Some of the people complaining in this thread have valid points about the fact that they don't feel safe. Simple fact of the matter is, that you're not suppose to feel safe in New Eden.
Eve is not a game for the faint hearted. It's a game that will chew you up and spit you out in the blink of an eye if you even think about letting your guard down or becoming complacent.
While every other MMO starts off with an intro that tells you you're going to be the savior of the realm, holds your hand, protects you, nurtures your development and ultimately guides you to your destiny as a hero along with several other million players who've had the exact same experience, EVE assaults you from the second you begin to play after you create a character, spitting you out into a universe that under the surface, is so complex that it's enough to make your head explode.
The entire design is based around being harsh, vicious, relentless, hostile and cold. It's about action and reaction, and the story that unfolds as you experience these two things.
True, we're working hard to lower the bar of entry so that more players can enjoy EVE and can get into the game. Our NPE (New Player Experience) is challenging, and we're trying to improve it to better prepare rookies for what lies out there, but when you start to play eve, you'll always start out as the little fish in the big pond.
The only way to grow is to voraciously consume what's around you, and its your choice whether that happens to be New Eden's abundant natural resources, or the other people who're also fighting their way to the top.
EVE is a playing experience like no other, where every action or reaction resonates through a single universe and is felt by players from all corners of the word. There are no shards here, no mirror universes, no instances and very few rules. If you stumble across something valuable, then chances are someone else already knows where you are, or is working their way toward you and you better be prepared to fight for what you've discovered.
EVE will test you from the outset, from the very second you undock and glimpse the stars, and will take pleasure from sorting those who can survive from those who'd rather curl up and perish.
EVE will let you fight until you collapse, then let you struggle to your feet, exhausted from the effort. Then when you can see the light at the end of the tunnel it'll kick you flat on your ass in the mud again and ask you why you deserve to be standing. It'll test you against every other individual playing at some point or another, and it'll ask for answers.
Give it an answer and maybe it'll let you up again, long enough to gather your thoughts. After a few more steps you're on the ground again and it's asking more questions.
EVE is designed to be harsh, it's designed to be challenging, and it's designed to be so deep and complex that it should fascinate and terrify you at the same time.
Corporation, Alliances and coalitions of tens of thousands have risen and fallen on these basic principles, and every one of those thousands of people has their own unique story to tell about how it affected them and what they experienced.
That's the beauty of EVE. Action and reaction. Emergence.
Welcome to the most frightening virtual playground you'll ever experience. =]I[= |
Mag's
the united
18010
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:54:00 -
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Carribean Queen wrote:Xuixien wrote:OP is a good example of the campaign of constant harassment certain player elements (miners, mission runners) use to bully content creators. There's a difference between being a content creator and being a jackass. Your post just gave me ebola. Speaking of being a jackass, good move sir. Nicely played.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:54:00 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety.
You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. |
Mag's
the united
18013
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:56:00 -
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Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Ding ding ding. Yet another winner. You're on a jackass roll.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5853
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:56:00 -
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Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Remember what I was saying about people with difficulties disassociating emotional value responses from digital actions...Yeah =]I[= |
Mag's
the united
18013
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:58:00 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Remember what I was saying about people with difficulties disassociating emotional value responses from digital actions...Yeah But for the love of god, can we please think about the sociopaths.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:58:00 -
[139] - Quote
Black Pedro wrote:Dream Five wrote:Yes I do think that you are largely correct in most of your observations. It is challenging to delineate their actions and they are (extremely deliberately so) operating in the grey area. However there are many other grey areas in the game and as evidence accumulates CCP should act, if nothing else just to send a message to whoever is next that their patience towards pushing the boundaries of grey areas is not unlimited.
A 'sportsmanship' clause would be great but is far too idealistic of a proposition i think.. given the diverse player base. I also think players should be allowed to slip a few times, nobody is perfect. However in this case i believe the underlying problem with this specific group is too big to ignore because too many players are affected.
So in grey areas I believe regulation should be applied on a case-by-case basis, just like it is frequently applied on a case-by-case basis by judges in real life.
So one thing where you and I are not quite on the same page is that "Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve"
I think in this case the problem grew too big and obvious. They perform this 'unsportsmanlike' (or I would rather say abusive) conduct daily and in high volumes. Many people are affected. This creates a poor environment and among other things i'm sure is detrimental to CCP's income. I'm sure many people with self-respect didn't have the energy for this kind of crusade and just unsubbed in disgust over some of their fellow players. Ok, but this is the case now - CCP judges player actions on a case-by-case basis by a set of some would say too nebulous guidelines. The behaviour you claim to be "abusive" is done in the open, documented on minerbumping.com and here in the forum among other places. Clearly CCP doesn't have a problem with it in general as Code continues to operate. I think if you are going to effect any change you will need more concrete rules you want implemented. Something beyond "Code are too mean, don't you see this CCP?" which seems to be your argument so far.
Thankfully they have abundantly self-documented their gloating/humiliating roleplay for everyone to see and yes let CCP be the judge.
CCP had reserved the right to interpret grey areas as they see fit in the past and as you can see they did it for a reason.
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CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909
The Conference Elite CODE.
530
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Posted - 2014.10.18 20:59:00 -
[140] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour.
Real life threats are taking seriously. You seem to have some anger issues. Maybe some yoga and meditation will help you relax and calm down. I mean after all, this is just pixels in a game. Maybe once you can understand this you would purchase a permit.
The Artist Formerly Known As AC.-á The-áterminal end of the digestive system.-á |
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Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:01:00 -
[141] - Quote
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Remember what I was saying about people with difficulties disassociating emotional value responses from digital actions...Yeah
I can recommend a delicious Bleach MartiniGäó |
Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5853
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:02:00 -
[142] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Black Pedro wrote:Dream Five wrote:Yes I do think that you are largely correct in most of your observations. It is challenging to delineate their actions and they are (extremely deliberately so) operating in the grey area. However there are many other grey areas in the game and as evidence accumulates CCP should act, if nothing else just to send a message to whoever is next that their patience towards pushing the boundaries of grey areas is not unlimited.
A 'sportsmanship' clause would be great but is far too idealistic of a proposition i think.. given the diverse player base. I also think players should be allowed to slip a few times, nobody is perfect. However in this case i believe the underlying problem with this specific group is too big to ignore because too many players are affected.
So in grey areas I believe regulation should be applied on a case-by-case basis, just like it is frequently applied on a case-by-case basis by judges in real life.
So one thing where you and I are not quite on the same page is that "Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve"
I think in this case the problem grew too big and obvious. They perform this 'unsportsmanlike' (or I would rather say abusive) conduct daily and in high volumes. Many people are affected. This creates a poor environment and among other things i'm sure is detrimental to CCP's income. I'm sure many people with self-respect didn't have the energy for this kind of crusade and just unsubbed in disgust over some of their fellow players. Ok, but this is the case now - CCP judges player actions on a case-by-case basis by a set of some would say too nebulous guidelines. The behaviour you claim to be "abusive" is done in the open, documented on minerbumping.com and here in the forum among other places. Clearly CCP doesn't have a problem with it in general as Code continues to operate. I think if you are going to effect any change you will need more concrete rules you want implemented. Something beyond "Code are too mean, don't you see this CCP?" which seems to be your argument so far. Thankfully they have abundantly self-documented their gloating/humiliating roleplay for everyone to see and yes let CCP be the judge. CCP had reserved the right to interpret grey areas as they see fit in the past and as you can see they did it for a reason. and of late have been fast and loose with the banhammer in that regard yet code remains...make of that what you will.
=]I[= |
Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty
56
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:02:00 -
[143] - Quote
CALDARI CITIZEN 14330909 wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Real life threats are taking seriously. You seem to have some anger issues. Maybe some yoga and meditation will help you relax and calm down. I mean after all, this is just pixels in a game. Maybe once you can understand this you would purchase a permit.
I recommend eating some improperly prepared Fugu. It may help you with your issues. |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
430
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:03:00 -
[144] - Quote
Xuixien wrote:OP is a good example of the campaign of constant harassment certain player elements (miners, mission runners) use to bully content creators.
This just shows vividly how twisted these spindoctors are. The claim here is, wait, that miners and mission runners bully CODE. |
Mag's
the united
18013
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:03:00 -
[145] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Remember what I was saying about people with difficulties disassociating emotional value responses from digital actions...Yeah I can recommend a delicious Bleach MartiniGäó A mum joke would go nicely with this, but alas the jackass crown is being held by a misspelt Queen.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Mag's
the united
18013
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:04:00 -
[146] - Quote
Dream Five wrote:Xuixien wrote:OP is a good example of the campaign of constant harassment certain player elements (miners, mission runners) use to bully content creators. This just shows vividly how twisted these spindoctors are. The claim here is, wait, that miners and mission runners bully CODE. I agree, it's an awful state of affairs. Poor CODE.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
334
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:05:00 -
[147] - Quote
Carribean Queen wrote:Ima Wreckyou wrote:Came here expecting the announcement of an exciting new ingame rebellion using ingame mechanics to try to eliminate us. You know, like you would expect when you play a sandbox game.
But instead it's just another carebear crying to get the game changed.
OP, if you get so fed up about a mail after you lose a pixel spaceship in a game that's all about losing spaceships then this is probably not the game for you. If you can't handle loss then there are hundreds of non-competitive games out there that will reward you even if you suck.
The only people who should get banned are the creeps like the OP who call others psychologically sick because she/he can't distinguish a game from reality. People like the OP should be removed from the game for their own safety. You should take a nice long walk through traffic on your local interstate during rush hour. Did you just suggest I should go kill myself? On the forums? the Code ALWAYS wins |
Dream Five
Renegade Pleasure Androids
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Dream Five wrote:Black Pedro wrote:Dream Five wrote:Yes I do think that you are largely correct in most of your observations. It is challenging to delineate their actions and they are (extremely deliberately so) operating in the grey area. However there are many other grey areas in the game and as evidence accumulates CCP should act, if nothing else just to send a message to whoever is next that their patience towards pushing the boundaries of grey areas is not unlimited.
A 'sportsmanship' clause would be great but is far too idealistic of a proposition i think.. given the diverse player base. I also think players should be allowed to slip a few times, nobody is perfect. However in this case i believe the underlying problem with this specific group is too big to ignore because too many players are affected.
So in grey areas I believe regulation should be applied on a case-by-case basis, just like it is frequently applied on a case-by-case basis by judges in real life.
So one thing where you and I are not quite on the same page is that "Code members do nothing different than many of the other players groups in Eve"
I think in this case the problem grew too big and obvious. They perform this 'unsportsmanlike' (or I would rather say abusive) conduct daily and in high volumes. Many people are affected. This creates a poor environment and among other things i'm sure is detrimental to CCP's income. I'm sure many people with self-respect didn't have the energy for this kind of crusade and just unsubbed in disgust over some of their fellow players. Ok, but this is the case now - CCP judges player actions on a case-by-case basis by a set of some would say too nebulous guidelines. The behaviour you claim to be "abusive" is done in the open, documented on minerbumping.com and here in the forum among other places. Clearly CCP doesn't have a problem with it in general as Code continues to operate. I think if you are going to effect any change you will need more concrete rules you want implemented. Something beyond "Code are too mean, don't you see this CCP?" which seems to be your argument so far. Thankfully they have abundantly self-documented their gloating/humiliating roleplay for everyone to see and yes let CCP be the judge. CCP had reserved the right to interpret grey areas as they see fit in the past and as you can see they did it for a reason. and of late have been fast and loose with the banhammer in that regard yet code remains...make of that what you will.
I'm not sure who's side are you on, if any. Formal logic? |
Mag's
the united
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Posted - 2014.10.18 21:07:00 -
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Xuixien wrote:Dream Five wrote:Do you believe CODE makes the game better or not? Absolutely. I agree.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Silverdaddy
Ourapheh Holdings
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I should have brought marshmallows to toast... The problem with slavery is that only half of the manacles are visible. The Holder, supposed master, is equally bound by the gilded chains of privilege and wealth. Sorrowful is the state of humanity, which shall never be free until all share equally in Liberty.
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