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Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.01 01:51:25 -
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Went through a chain of 16 WH two days ago, and went another 16 today.
The last time one of them was a Shattered one J005872. In map browser it showed the constellation of other Shattered WH systems. But I cleaned the roaming history today, so cant link anymore. Auto-link in chat doesnt work either.
This time I didnt happen to find any new WH system, but I did travel within a region which had a new constellation with Shattered WH systems.
http://i.imgur.com/mrsAJVk.jpg
Here on a screen you can see a WH region C-R00009 which has in it C-C00327 Constellation with 11 Shattered WH systems. Sadly, no interesting information can be obtained from map browser, it just shows how many shattered planets are there in orbits, and they are all shattered.
Funny, right clicking on a system name and 'Show on Map' opens YULAI and thats for every WH system. So there may be some key info there.
One more notice. During my roaming scanned ~50 WH gates of all different types, new figate sized etc, out of them 7-8 i.e. a considerable amount vanished upon warping to them. Its either wild coincidence, or sisi feature, or some new WH mechanics that its very fragile and dissapears so fast. I tried to warp at 100km to look from afar at some point but all the rest were normal and stayed there as usual.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:06:29 -
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Shattered planets: Something about the Seyllin disaster's similarity to the current events has been bugging me, so I dug up some more info on it and it looks like there's a big connection. There are nine shattered planets left over from that event: Seyllin, 3HQC-6, Z8-81T, T-IPZB, EAWE-2, 35-RK9, SL-YBS, J146104 and J115422. Every single one of them now has a type A0 blue dwarf star, but before the disaster the ones we knew of were all type O1 blue-white stars, which can turn into type A0 after they collapse after getting rid of a lot of mass (by going supernova).
Concord confirmed that ten shattering events occurred, but we've only found 9 shattered planets in New Eden and W-space. The tenth may have been J-YQEC, which is currently a Type A0 blue dwarf. If we could get old records confirming that it was a type O1 before the Seyllin disaster, that would confirm this. There's another shattered planet in PE1-R1 but this doesn't fit the profile of the incident as the planet is number 7 and the star is the wrong type. It's an anomaly that will either be patched out or written into the story, hopefully the latter.
Isogen-5: After the Seyllin disaster, people did a lot of research and compiling info into the role of isogen-5 in the event. The Apocrypha chronicle World On Fire explained that an ancient race left stockpiles of Isogen-5 "scattered throughout New Eden and beyond" and that someone detonated an isogen-5 weapon near one of the stockpiles, causing a chain reaction in several star systems with type O1 stars. The caches were located directly between the stars and the first planet in each system, and somehow detonating them warped the stars' magnetic fields and caused a mass ejection of material directly at the first planet, like a controlled supernova, and left the star as a Type A0. For reasons that are as-yet unknown, this caused wormholes to start opening.
This raised the question of why there were isogen-5 caches hidden in those systems, but we may have an answer now. If J-YQEC used to be a type O1 and if it is the location of Thera, then what if isogen-5 occurs naturally in type O1 stars and the Talocan particle collector at the star in Thera was there to collect it? We know isogen-5 is needed to run very powerful and complex technologies and the Talocan were nomadic, so it makes sense that they might be moving around to set up isogen-5 collectors on Type O1 stars. It could also take thousands of years for a star to generate enough isogen-5 for their purposes, so perhaps they left the Sleepers behind to finish their plan.
So what now? That brings us to today, when these mischevious new Amarr, Caldari, Minmatar and Gallente empires have emerged and started wrecking the Talocan-Sleeper plans. Several valuable isogen-5 caches have already been destroyed, and if the big shattering event is something similar to the Seyllin disaster (fairly safe bet it is), we could be looking at a metric buttload of isogen-5 going up in smoke. There are also only so many candidate stars to generate the isogen-5 and we've already destroyed 10 of them.
Perhaps the ancient civs had put in motion a 10,000 year plan to get enough isogen-5 to re-open the EVE gate or a wormhole back to Earth, and we just wrecked it. There's a lot of speculation in there, but it fits. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5358
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:24:02 -
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On Isogen-5: The superweapon used by the Amarr to destroy the Minmatar invasion fleet used Isogen-5 as fuel. The weapon inverted the shield systems of the affected ships, effectively crippling them. The piece out of which the superweapon was derived from came from the Eve Gate and the Other told the Empress where to find it, which was supposedly hidden by the Jove with a cloaking device, which happened to fail. Just like the current sleeper caches.
So we have a connection of Isogen-5 with the Other, Terran technology and the Eve Gate.
Also Rogue Drones were used to collect Isogen-5 at the Hive where the Abaddon with the superweapon was parked at (and destroyed). That would connect the Other with Rogue Drones.
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Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:43:49 -
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Shattering worlds to get to W-space. Then shattering W-space worlds to get... even deeper?
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
16
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Posted - 2014.12.01 04:24:07 -
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Abrazzar wrote:On Isogen-5: The superweapon used by the Amarr to destroy the Minmatar invasion fleet used Isogen-5 as fuel. The weapon inverted the shield systems of the affected ships, effectively crippling them. The piece out of which the superweapon was derived from came from the Eve Gate and the Other told the Empress where to find it, which was supposedly hidden by the Jove with a cloaking device, which happened to fail. Just like the current sleeper caches.
So we have a connection of Isogen-5 with the Other, Terran technology and the Eve Gate.
Also Rogue Drones were used to collect Isogen-5 at the Hive where the Abaddon with the superweapon was parked at (and destroyed). That would connect the Other with Rogue Drones.
Interesting, so isogen-5 is used in terran tech like the EVE Gate and the Rogue Drones stumbled across a cache of it somewhere. The detonation of all the isogen-5 in the Seyllin disaster was an accident, but it's very coincidental that each cache was between planet I and the star. That suggests each cache was parked at the planet's L1 legrange point for 10,000 years, so it would have been found if it weren't cloaked.
Tying that in with your point about the Empress, that indicates that the Jove may have been responsible for keeping these caches safe and hidden all across New Eden while the Sleepers kept watch in systems off the stargate grid. The disaster coincidentally only happening in systems with Type O1 stars makes me think the caches were cloaked particle collectors running for thousands of years rather than just cloaked containers, though. I like how that ties in nicely with the purpose and motivation of the Sleepers. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:48:42 -
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I just heard leaked audio for the next trailer
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Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
57
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Posted - 2014.12.01 09:22:56 -
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Shattered Constellations
- C-C00327: J001348 J001398 J001670 J002838 J003789 J004283 J005923 J011339 J011563 J012794 J014348
- D-C00328: J001302 J001769 J002423 J002625 J004150 J004470 J005259 J005280 J005299 J005872 J005969 J010247 J010556 J011195 J011355 J011376 J011778 J011824
- E-C00329: J001025 J001694 J001820 J003382 J003546 J003793 J003941 J004128 J004921 J004998 J005070 J005223 J005663 J005724 J010811 J011790 J012578 J012773 J013146
- F-C00330: J010366 J010951 J012475 J012686 J015227
Out of them I visited J011376 and J005872. There were WH in, WH out, Shattered asteroid field, Shattered ice field, Shattered planets, A0 IV Turbelunt Blue Subgiant star, normal combat anomaly, normal scannable gas site. Pretty boring places, no lore sites or findings so far.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
17
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:12:57 -
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Siegfried Tahl wrote:Shattered Constellations Out of them I visited J011376 and J005872. There were WH in, WH out, Shattered asteroid field, Shattered ice field, Shattered planets, A0 IV Turbelunt Blue Subgiant star, normal combat anomaly, normal scannable gas site. Pretty boring places, no lore sites or findings so far. I would guess all the lore sites are not added yet so that the surprise isn't spoiled. |
Aladar Dangerface
Transcendent Sedition Protean Concept
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:41:59 -
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As someone who has never taken an interest in lore before this, can someone point me to a good source of info for getting a more complete back-story on all this; sleepers, jove, talocon etc?
This new stuff is pretty interesting and i want to know moooaarr
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Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:49:01 -
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Nyphur wrote: Para-Phrased: Happening Now: Lots happening with a new star in Jove, involving Sansha shindigs. Result: Thera will be a star gate project trade hub mega system, looking to build a stargate to earth, making the nameing of Thera quite ironic ... (thera also being earth etc).
Cool! I love this kinda stuff! Keep it coming!!!!
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Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
22
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:53:31 -
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Any chance a Dev could come on here and (where able) confirm things as correct or wrong? Surely there's many bits being talked about here which are able to be confirmed like that without giving away any secrets?
That said, I rekon the Dev's must love these kind of threads. I know I would. Having people that inetrested enough to hyperbole and theorise on your creation (rightly or wrongly, or even just damn closely) would be awesome :)
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
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Posted - 2014.12.01 14:29:00 -
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Leannor wrote:Any chance a Dev could come on here and (where able) confirm things as correct or wrong? Surely there's many bits being talked about here which are able to be confirmed like that without giving away any secrets?
That said, I rekon the Dev's must love these kind of threads. I know I would. Having people that inetrested enough to hyperbole and theorise on your creation (rightly or wrongly, or even just damn closely) would be awesome :) I think that would entirely spoil the fun. A huge part of what drew me to EVE back in 2004 was the idea that there could be secrets out there to unwravel and devs wouldn't confirm or deny them. I remember accidentally finding Taisu Magdesh's hidden mercenary complex in my home system of Thelan back when his tag was selling for 250-500m a pop, and my corpmates and I spun all kinds of theories about connections with Serpentis activity in the area.
When the COSMOS constellations opened and injected hints about the ancient Talocan, Yan Jung, Sleeper and Takmahl races and the activities of the Rogue Drones, it kicked that curiosity into overdrive and people like Pottsey and I started to piece together all the information from hidden exploration sites, in-character news posts and official chronicles. In recent years it's been people like Mark726 and a host of other players who have really dug into the secrets of the game, answering questions like how far W-Space is from K-space and compiling more data on the ancient civs. For a lot of people, this lore isn't just a curiosity or fiction; It's a core part of the game and a secret they want to try to unwravel. As CCP's focusing more on live events and making the storyline tie together these days, that's going to increasingly be the case.
Also, I think the devs like to watch the theories players come up with and use it to help guide the storyline long-term :p. |
Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
22
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:52:40 -
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Nyphur wrote:Leannor wrote:Any chance a Dev could come on here and (where able) confirm things as correct or wrong? Surely there's many bits being talked about here which are able to be confirmed like that without giving away any secrets?
That said, I rekon the Dev's must love these kind of threads. I know I would. Having people that inetrested enough to hyperbole and theorise on your creation (rightly or wrongly, or even just damn closely) would be awesome :) I think that would entirely spoil the fun. A huge part of what drew me to EVE back in 2004 was the idea that there could be secrets out there to unwravel and devs wouldn't confirm or deny them. I remember accidentally finding Taisu Magdesh's hidden mercenary complex in my home system of Thelan back when his tag was selling for 250-500m a pop, and my corpmates and I spun all kinds of theories about connections with Serpentis activity in the area. When the COSMOS constellations opened and injected hints about the ancient Talocan, Yan Jung, Sleeper and Takmahl races and the activities of the Rogue Drones, it kicked that curiosity into overdrive and people like Pottsey and I started to piece together all the information from hidden exploration sites, in-character news posts and official chronicles. In recent years it's been people like Mark726 and a host of other players who have really dug into the secrets of the game, answering questions like how far W-Space is from K-space and compiling more data on the ancient civs. For a lot of people, this lore isn't just a curiosity or fiction; It's a core part of the game and a secret they want to try to unwravel. As CCP's focusing more on live events and making the storyline tie together these days, that's going to increasingly be the case. Also, I think the devs like to watch the theories players come up with and use it to help guide the storyline long-term :p.
oh, totally agree, I just mean confirming something that's supposed to be 'out there' but everyone has got wrong, and basing new theories off wrong information. Might be useful to say "actually guys, hate to break it to you but the width of a star is actually in meters not feet, so your calc's are all out ..." type thing ... (but maybe not quite so basic lol).
But, yeah, no 'giviing away secrets or surpsies
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Radax Glenn
C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:12:12 -
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Maybe additional confirmation to some of the UUA-F4 system tie in. Can't believe I missed this earlier, but check out the star map they posted on the EVE tumbler a few days back.
Star Map
It does appear that there are at least two links between Empire and UUA-F4.
Is this a visual error based on perspective, or do you feel this image indicates a link to UUA-F4? |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26365
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Posted - 2014.12.02 02:12:21 -
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So those structures shattered those systems, as well as gates. Does that mean they might shatter our **** too?
Pretty sure I'm spending the night poking unidentified structures, I've had enough thera undocking games anyway.
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Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.12.02 02:24:41 -
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Sad but its perspective thing. http://i.imgur.com/pDusBRT.png
Hasama, its Hasama again! Hmmm...
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
12529
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Posted - 2014.12.02 02:26:48 -
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I think I know where I'm setting up camp on patch day and christmas
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A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
357
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Posted - 2014.12.02 03:12:37 -
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Is Hasama noteworthy for some reason?
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.12.02 05:51:40 -
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Heavy breathing intensifies.
Thanks all for your ongoing research into exciting changes that are apparently coming!
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Lachesiss
Chaos From Order Manifest Destiny.
13
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Posted - 2014.12.02 09:08:31 -
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Nothing to see here just Jove super weapons detonating. |
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
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Posted - 2014.12.02 10:06:31 -
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Ned Thomas wrote:Is Hasama noteworthy for some reason?
Well Siegfried Tahl did found this structure on Sisi in Hasama: Unknown Cloaked Structure
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:52:41 -
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Stargate SG-1. One must always look to Stargate SG-1 for guidance in times like these...
Samantha Carter is out there, somewhere, getting ready to blow up that shiny new sun everyone is seeing in Apophis's..er..the Jove's faces....
Then the Orai...er..big alliances, are going to build super-gates to get us there.
All of this happened before, it will happen again.
Damnit, that's Battlestar Galactica isn't it?
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Nishachara
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
9
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:44:36 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Stargate SG-1. One must always look to Stargate SG-1 for guidance in times like these...
Samantha Carter is out there, somewhere, getting ready to blow up that shiny new sun everyone is seeing in Apophis's..er..the Jove's faces....
Then the Orai...er..big alliances, are going to build super-gates to get us there.
All of this happened before, it will happen again.
Damnit, that's Battlestar Galactica isn't it?
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Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
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Posted - 2014.12.03 02:32:56 -
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Zahary Khema
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.12.03 12:07:52 -
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Harrison Tato wrote:It's a port of call, home away from home for diplomats, hustlers, entrepreneurs, and wanderers. Humans and aliens wrapped in two million, five hundred thousand tons of spinning metal, all alone in the night. And the gate will lead us into Thirdspace... |
Caja Wrython
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2014.12.03 12:23:12 -
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.12.03 15:07:05 -
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By Grabthar's hammer, this thread is going places.
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Zetsubou Gakusei
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.03 15:20:46 -
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Jandice Ymladris wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Is Hasama noteworthy for some reason? Well Siegfried Tahl did found this structure on Sisi in Hasama: Unknown Cloaked Structure
I still wonder HOW exactly he found it, I couldn't watch the video he posted. Did he scan it? Was it a beacon?
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
900
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Posted - 2014.12.03 17:24:11 -
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Radax Glenn wrote:Great information from all parties! More images, I've gathered here: Celestial Object in UUAQuestion: I'm calculating "around" 14 or 15 light years between JZV-F4 and W477-P using the NeoCom map, and "eyeballing it". Can anyone confirm my numbers?
By my calculations and using data from the SDE, the distance between JZV and W477 is exactly 12.58827843 ly, or 1.19092*(10^14) kilometers (10^17 meters).
I tried confirming with DOTLAN. But they do not include Jove space or UUA region in its calculations. However, the math is easy enough.
distance = sqrt((x2-x1)^2+(y2-y1)^2+(z2-z1)^2) where:
systemxyz JZV-F41.28444E+165.79283E+161.67069E+17 W477-P8.9479E+164.69391E+162.57563E+17
c/d?
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Anslo
Scope Works The Blacklist.
22992
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Posted - 2014.12.03 17:29:42 -
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Trii seo did the calculations and got 12000 LY
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