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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.11.27 20:58:05 -
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Everyone who can get on SISI, take a look towards Jove space and UUA-F4: all of the stargates in the three regions have disappeared. As it is, there will be 110 new systems with Rhea- and there are 110 systems in UUA-F4 excluding the dev test systems.
From this, we can say that Jove space is safe. But at the same time, this means something even bigger- if the new wormhole systems and Thera are UUA-F4, than the Sleepers have been closer than we knew all along- and they have been right next to the Jovians.
The Jovians have stayed out of that region- they hold no sovereignty in it and have avoided it. And with the new star appearing and the Sleepers returning, they have decommissioned all of their gates- and looking at the story so far, it seems like the gates in UUA are gone because of whatever shattered every planet in the systems.
This is getting better and better
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Lord Ra
Section XII
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:03:29 -
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I love your posts :) |
Elfi Wolfe
University of Caille Gallente Federation
75
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:11:09 -
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Thank you for the information.
"Please point to the place on the doll where the carebear touched you."
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Rothar Luke
UoC NightWing Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
0
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:11:51 -
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Interesting news! I wonder if we will be able to see these deactivated stargates, if these new systems are indeed in UUA-F4. |
Makoto Priano
Priano Trans-Stellar State Services Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6493
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:19:25 -
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101 new systems in Rhea, 107 in UUA, but more like 15ish systems still connected by gates. The counts don't exactly line up.
While interesting, and we do get more interesting lorestuffs, I'm not sure we're getting UUA quite yet.
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
12150
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Posted - 2014.11.27 21:23:46 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:101 new systems in Rhea, 107 in UUA, but more like 15ish systems still connected by gates. The counts don't exactly line up.
While interesting, and we do get more interesting lorestuffs, I'm not sure we're getting UUA quite yet.
Anything is possible at this point- and if it is UUA, than I can only assume a number of systems, including Polaris, will remain inaccessible and only for DEV usage.
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Hal Morsh
Exodus Mining Corp
207
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:19:21 -
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Wasn't there speculation sansha could be living in jove space? Doesn't that mean this could be the jove fighting back?
I mean there was an incursion where sansha forces didn't leave through wormholes. They just abandoned the incursion and started using stargates.
CCP - Outpost code is scary.
CCP Greyscale - Starbases - They need to look @#$%ing awesome, and people need to want them and
want to be around them and have them and use them and like them and want them and stuff.
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Serene Repose
1662
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:20:59 -
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I got out there, and all I could see is this huge vacant backdrop with a lot of little pointy lights. Was I in the right place?
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á
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Radax Glenn
C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative
60
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Posted - 2014.11.27 22:51:28 -
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I'm also coming to the same conclusions. I flew a Taranis up into Vale to see how close I could get to this new star in the sky. I took some screen shots. I can't say for certain it's UUA, it seems closer to where J7HZ-4 should be. So hard to tell though. I tried making waypoints and destinations up and around through Cobalt Edge, and looking in space to see the route, but nothing is really adding up to say for certain.
Pictures from the Edge
This is certainly going to make for some interesting times.
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
12155
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Posted - 2014.11.27 23:22:28 -
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Hal Morsh wrote:Wasn't there speculation sansha could be living in jove space? Doesn't that mean this could be the jove fighting back?
I mean there was an incursion where sansha forces didn't leave through wormholes. They just abandoned the incursion and started using stargates. Yeah, there was a Sansha incursion into Jove space at one point- but in EVE Source, we're told that the Jovians sent a communique to CONCORD reporting that they repelled the attack.
I'm positive Sansha is going to play a role in all of this, if only a minor one- it's certain that their wormhole tech comes from something related to the Sleepers
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Magnasis Drakkenwolf
9
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Posted - 2014.11.30 06:59:20 -
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Sounds interesting, I can't wait to see what CCP has in store for us
There can be only one..
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Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
2281
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:49:48 -
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The new WH systems are Jove space?
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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Liafcipe9000
Critically Preposterous
25302
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:55:21 -
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Jarod Garamonde wrote:The new WH systems are Jove space? I sure hope so!
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Daniel Jackson
Liandri Sanctuary Corps Liandri Covenant
50
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Posted - 2014.11.30 07:56:31 -
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hes right i have pics to confirm!!!
Tranquility Jove and UUA regions Singularity Jove and UUA regions
gif of 3 days in 100% zoomed from 1 system in caldari space of the BRIGHT STAR http://i.imgur.com/hI60hcB.gifv
I Vote YES! for Downloadable HI-RES Textures!!!!
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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc. Arctic Light
395
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Posted - 2014.11.30 09:31:38 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Everyone who can get on SISI, take a look towards Jove space and UUA-F4: all of the stargates in the three regions have disappeared. As it is, there will be 110 new systems with Rhea- and there are 110 systems in UUA-F4 excluding the dev test systems. From this, we can say that Jove space is safe. But at the same time, this means something even bigger- if the new wormhole systems and Thera are UUA-F4, than the Sleepers have been closer than we knew all along- and they have been right next to the Jovians. The Jovians have stayed out of that region- they hold no sovereignty in it and have avoided it. And with the new star appearing and the Sleepers returning, they have decommissioned all of their gates- and looking at the story so far, it seems like the gates in UUA are gone because of whatever shattered every planet in the systems. This is getting better and better
UUA-F4 how ever currently holds 107 systems so these events may not be linked after all but admittedly 107 is tantalisingly close to 110 also UUA-F4 although unreachable is still in k-space though the new changes in mechanics may reflect that it's in k.space while still being largely uncharted by the empires. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5749
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Posted - 2014.11.30 09:48:33 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Everyone who can get on SISI, take a look towards Jove space and UUA-F4: all of the stargates in the three regions have disappeared. As it is, there will be 110 new systems with Rhea- and there are 110 systems in UUA-F4 excluding the dev test systems. From this, we can say that Jove space is safe. But at the same time, this means something even bigger- if the new wormhole systems and Thera are UUA-F4, than the Sleepers have been closer than we knew all along- and they have been right next to the Jovians. The Jovians have stayed out of that region- they hold no sovereignty in it and have avoided it. And with the new star appearing and the Sleepers returning, they have decommissioned all of their gates- and looking at the story so far, it seems like the gates in UUA are gone because of whatever shattered every planet in the systems. This is getting better and better
I simply like your work. Thank you.
Bring back DEEEEP Space!
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Elisk Skyforge
Night Raven Task Force Night Raven Alliance
45
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Posted - 2014.11.30 11:41:34 -
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CCP Fozzie in episode 2 of o7 talk show said that this system has always been there you just never had access to it so it's possible. |
Xercodo
Vector Galactic Did he say Jump
3886
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Posted - 2014.11.30 12:36:50 -
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Btw I noticed on SiSi someone that appears to be def not a dev has sov up there now too on some of the still conjoined systems. How'd they get there?...
The Drake is a Lie
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Oresome
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
21
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Posted - 2014.11.30 15:00:29 -
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Great work, very interesting stuff. |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
299
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Posted - 2014.11.30 15:02:42 -
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And the plot thickens
Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
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Jean Luc Lemmont
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
364
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Posted - 2014.11.30 15:33:27 -
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Just remember, the light at the end of the tunnel could be the front of an oncoming train.
Will I get banned for boxing!?!?!
This thread has degenerated to the point it's become like two bald men fighting over a comb. -- Doc Fury
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
12
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Posted - 2014.11.30 18:31:16 -
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Though we're getting 101 new systems now, I think there's an extremely good chance that 75 more are to follow. My reasoning is that 25 of the 101 new systems are going to be small-ship only AND have C6 wolf rayett anomalies, which means they've been designed in tandem with the armour-based Amarr T3 destroyer. The Gallente, Caldari and Minmatar will all get their T3s at later dates as part of this arms race storyline, so it makes sense that each race will get its own 25 systems with a different anomaly in each. Most likely the Amarr will get Wolf Rayett (+armour), Caldari will get Pulsar (+shield), Minmatar will get Black Hole (speed), and Gallente will get Magnetar maybe.
So really we're looking for 176 star systems that may or may not already exist on the map, and of which 100 are going to be available immediately, 75 will be unlocked over time, and 1 will be Thera. Interestingly, UUA-F4 (not officially claimed by the Jove) has 101 non-CCP systems and reports suggest that this region is where the star we're seeing in the sky is likely located. From that we can make a few reasonable deductions:
- Thera is likely one of the systems in UUA-F4. Since we know that Thera has a type A0 star from Zakari Kovalis' initial exploration log entry of the system, it must be J-YQEC as it's the only type A0 in the region.
- The stargates in UUA-F4 must have just been destroyed by the shattering event that's going on right now in J-YQEC (Thera).
- 25 of the remaining 100 systems will be the frigate-only shattered systems we get in the initial release and will be tied to the creation of the Amarr T3 destroyer.
- The remaining 75 systems will either be the other non-frigate-sized shattered systems that open up in the patch or the remaining 75 frigate-sized systems that will unlock slowly over time.
Jove space?: If the above deductions are true, then the shattering is occuring to systems near the epicentre and that means the 75 shattered systems that aren't in UUA-F4 (either the 75 larger non-frigate-limited shattered systems or the 75 frigate-sized ones waiting to be unlocked) will be either systems near UUA-F4. That means either the Jove regions of J7HZ-F and A821-A (there are 77 in the J7HZ-F region that could be used) or or it could be undiscovered systems near there that are off the stargate grid.
We know the Jove have tech well beyond the T3 level (I recall from early EVE discussions that they're something like Tech 5), so I don't think CCP's planning to advance the Jovian storyline just yet. That means the 75 shattered systems outside UUA-F4 are either nearby systems that aren't on the Stargate grid or far-away star systems somewhere like Anoikis. Since the "star" isn't visible in Anoikis, it's likely that the shattered systems are just systems near Thera that aren't on the New Eden map and aren't in Jovian space.
SOE and Thera: SOE first arrived in Thera on YC112.07.09, which was shortly after Sansha's Nation somehow mastered wormholes and started launching incursions. We know that Sansha managed to use the wormholes to enter Jove space and steal the station from 3-CE1R a few months prior, so there's no reason SOE couldn't have used the same technology to gain access to J7HZ-F or hitched a ride in cloaked ships.
There are destroyed Gallente stations (the kind SOE use) in orbit around Thera's inner planets, indicating that they have been colonising the system for several years. SOE is obsessed with the EVE Gate, and the Talocan artifacts at the Thera star show that they're doing some kind of experiment on it that has resulted in dozens of unstable microwormholes at the site and has obviously opened Thera's static wormholes. We also know that SOE searched through several shattered systems before finding J7HZ-F, so the shattering event has clearly happened before in the past before the SOE experiments even began.
Assuming that the shattering is responsible for the recent destruction of the stargates in UUA-F4, this indicates that the stargates in the UUA-F4 region were built at some point after the first shattering event, so that wasn't the Seylinn disaster. The presence of Talocan tech all throughout the Thera system and the Talocan experiment at the star itself means that the first shattering was during the Talocan's reign, which is anywhere from 16,000 years before YC0 to about 6,974 before YC0 (emergence of the Caldari empire).
Working theory: My current working theory is that SOE used Sansha's Nation's wormhole-controlling tech to explore UUA-F4 and found systems with shattered planets. They got to J-YQEC and discovered the Talocan equipment on the star, which was designed to extract something from the star and open massive wormholes over long distances (like an artificial EVE Gate). The Talocan may even have been migratory because they were extracting a finite rare resource from stars or testing stars for the potential to open a stable wormhole to Earth.
SOE built up stations in the system and researched the device, then attempted a test by opening a wormhole to the W477-P system (where the "star" has been localised to). Thera's star went unstable and fired off several huge CMEs, destroying the stations on the inner planets and causing the shattering event in the region that destroyed all the stargates. Similar to how the Seylinn disaster caused unstable wormholes to sleeper space, this disaster has opened wormholes to UUA-F4 and Thera gets the most static wormholes as it's the epicentre of the phenomenon.
Thera will become the site of research into creating an artificial supergate to another galaxy to where the Talocan went. Check out the Prophecy trailer from Fanfest 2014, notice how it's in a system with a blue star like Thera? We know CCP plans to have the whole playerbase work together to build and fight over the first player-built stargate, so why not in a hub system like Thera? |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon Cynosural Field Theory.
1424
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Posted - 2014.11.30 18:49:01 -
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Nyphur wrote:
Thera will become the site of research into creating an artificial supergate to another galaxy to where the Talocan went. Check out the Prophecy trailer from Fanfest 2014, notice how it's in a system with a blue star like Thera? We know CCP plans to have the whole playerbase work together to build and fight over the first player-built stargate, so why not in a hub system like Thera?
Does not need to be another galaxy...we know that w-space is only around 1300 light years from empire space (for example milky way has a diameter of well over 100.000 Light years)
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
12
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Posted - 2014.11.30 18:54:29 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Nyphur wrote:
Thera will become the site of research into creating an artificial supergate to another galaxy to where the Talocan went. Check out the Prophecy trailer from Fanfest 2014, notice how it's in a system with a blue star like Thera? We know CCP plans to have the whole playerbase work together to build and fight over the first player-built stargate, so why not in a hub system like Thera?
Does not need to be another galaxy...we know that w-space is only around 1300 light years from empire space (for example milky way has a diameter of well over 100.000 Light years)
Good point. New Eden and Anoikis are both in the Milky Way, and it's reasonable to assume the Talocan were trying to get back to Earth. So they've probably either succeeded in opening a wormhole to Earth, destroyed themselves, or went elsewhere within our galaxy. Either way, the supergate will lead to somewhere interesting. |
Oresome
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
21
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Posted - 2014.11.30 19:04:23 -
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Nyphur, you really should write the next Eve book, very interesting stuff m8. |
Nishachara
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
9
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Posted - 2014.11.30 20:52:20 -
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Can someone direct me to a news story or a paragraph saying more about that star someone mantioned in this thread. I've seen star brighter than others for few times and it seemed weird but i brushed it off as something of no importance i guess... I am interested whats that all about :D
Also wasn't some bright star few years ago for which nobody knew where it is and why it is so bright, it lasted for few days apparently... |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7055
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Posted - 2014.11.30 21:54:33 -
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Talocans will return, they will emerge from the monoliths and start destroying everything as this means their self preservation. They will make your eyes bleed by using only their mind.
Recon makes them stronger
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
15
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Posted - 2014.11.30 21:57:23 -
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Oresome wrote:Nyphur, you really should write the next Eve book, very interesting stuff m8. Might make this the topic of my next EVE Evolved article at Massively and put in some more research on it, there'd be one up on it today but I'm only doing one article every two weeks now. The ancient civs storylines are the best part of the EVE lore, and CCP's taking it in a very interesting direction. I'm just glad to be still playing EVE at the time we're working all this stuff out, been waiting for this since the COSMOS constellations were introduced in 2005.
Nishachara wrote:Can someone direct me to a news story or a paragraph saying more about that star someone mantioned in this thread. I've seen star brighter than others for few times and it seemed weird but i brushed it off as something of no importance i guess... I am interested whats that all about :D Also wasn't some bright star few years ago for which nobody knew where it is and why it is so bright, it lasted for few days apparently... Edit: found it... maybe it is of some importance... https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Bright_Star The news post about the new star is here: http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/stellar-anomaly-detected-by-capsuleers/ It's clearly the same phenomenon as the one you've linked due to the superluminality, but it can't be occuring in the same location because the stargates in the UUA-F4 region weren't destroyed or shut down in YC109. We also didn't see this phenomenon during the Seylinn disaster, as far as I'm aware, which hints that in that case the "star" event either didn't occur or occurred in Anoikis so it was too far away to see. The same thing's currently going on with the current star being invisible in Anoikis.
If I had to guess, I'd say the star is some kind of unexpected byproduct of trying to fold space with Talocan technology like the kind found in Thera and the Sleeper systems. You try to open the wormhole and on the other end a massive burst of radiation comes out that can somehow move faster than the speed of light. From a distance we'd see that as a bright light appearing in every system at once (the star), but any star system very close to it would get hit by a huge wave of particles going faster than light speed. That's probably what's causing the planets to shatter, destroying stargates etc. It also explains why the star appears to be close to W477-P even though I'm fairly confident that Thera is actually J-YQEC: W477P is the exit point, while J-YQEC is the point of origin.
If that's right then it's very interesting to know that the star effect happened before with no other noticeable effects. It means someone tried to open a Talocan wormhole to somewhere in YC109, and it had to be somewhere less than a few hundred lightyears away because we saw the star. My best guess here would be that the Jove found and tested a Talocan wormhole device or similar technology, which makes it all the more ominous that they haven't contacted us since. |
Nishachara
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
9
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Posted - 2014.11.30 22:45:05 -
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I agree... thank you for the link... but i noticed that first related link on evelopedia article leads to news item you linked, so is that one more comfirmation that events are indeed related ? Also, the star reapeared in march next year, maybe the Jove did more testing with talocan wormhole, as you suggested.
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Radax Glenn
C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative
70
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Posted - 2014.12.01 00:20:55 -
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Great information from all parties!
More images, I've gathered here: Celestial Object in UUA
Question: I'm calculating "around" 14 or 15 light years between JZV-F4 and W477-P using the NeoCom map, and "eyeballing it". Can anyone confirm my numbers? |
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Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
56
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Posted - 2014.12.01 01:51:25 -
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Went through a chain of 16 WH two days ago, and went another 16 today.
The last time one of them was a Shattered one J005872. In map browser it showed the constellation of other Shattered WH systems. But I cleaned the roaming history today, so cant link anymore. Auto-link in chat doesnt work either.
This time I didnt happen to find any new WH system, but I did travel within a region which had a new constellation with Shattered WH systems.
http://i.imgur.com/mrsAJVk.jpg
Here on a screen you can see a WH region C-R00009 which has in it C-C00327 Constellation with 11 Shattered WH systems. Sadly, no interesting information can be obtained from map browser, it just shows how many shattered planets are there in orbits, and they are all shattered.
Funny, right clicking on a system name and 'Show on Map' opens YULAI and thats for every WH system. So there may be some key info there.
One more notice. During my roaming scanned ~50 WH gates of all different types, new figate sized etc, out of them 7-8 i.e. a considerable amount vanished upon warping to them. Its either wild coincidence, or sisi feature, or some new WH mechanics that its very fragile and dissapears so fast. I tried to warp at 100km to look from afar at some point but all the rest were normal and stayed there as usual.
Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc.
Two Rogue Drone Mothers
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
16
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:06:29 -
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Shattered planets: Something about the Seyllin disaster's similarity to the current events has been bugging me, so I dug up some more info on it and it looks like there's a big connection. There are nine shattered planets left over from that event: Seyllin, 3HQC-6, Z8-81T, T-IPZB, EAWE-2, 35-RK9, SL-YBS, J146104 and J115422. Every single one of them now has a type A0 blue dwarf star, but before the disaster the ones we knew of were all type O1 blue-white stars, which can turn into type A0 after they collapse after getting rid of a lot of mass (by going supernova).
Concord confirmed that ten shattering events occurred, but we've only found 9 shattered planets in New Eden and W-space. The tenth may have been J-YQEC, which is currently a Type A0 blue dwarf. If we could get old records confirming that it was a type O1 before the Seyllin disaster, that would confirm this. There's another shattered planet in PE1-R1 but this doesn't fit the profile of the incident as the planet is number 7 and the star is the wrong type. It's an anomaly that will either be patched out or written into the story, hopefully the latter.
Isogen-5: After the Seyllin disaster, people did a lot of research and compiling info into the role of isogen-5 in the event. The Apocrypha chronicle World On Fire explained that an ancient race left stockpiles of Isogen-5 "scattered throughout New Eden and beyond" and that someone detonated an isogen-5 weapon near one of the stockpiles, causing a chain reaction in several star systems with type O1 stars. The caches were located directly between the stars and the first planet in each system, and somehow detonating them warped the stars' magnetic fields and caused a mass ejection of material directly at the first planet, like a controlled supernova, and left the star as a Type A0. For reasons that are as-yet unknown, this caused wormholes to start opening.
This raised the question of why there were isogen-5 caches hidden in those systems, but we may have an answer now. If J-YQEC used to be a type O1 and if it is the location of Thera, then what if isogen-5 occurs naturally in type O1 stars and the Talocan particle collector at the star in Thera was there to collect it? We know isogen-5 is needed to run very powerful and complex technologies and the Talocan were nomadic, so it makes sense that they might be moving around to set up isogen-5 collectors on Type O1 stars. It could also take thousands of years for a star to generate enough isogen-5 for their purposes, so perhaps they left the Sleepers behind to finish their plan.
So what now? That brings us to today, when these mischevious new Amarr, Caldari, Minmatar and Gallente empires have emerged and started wrecking the Talocan-Sleeper plans. Several valuable isogen-5 caches have already been destroyed, and if the big shattering event is something similar to the Seyllin disaster (fairly safe bet it is), we could be looking at a metric buttload of isogen-5 going up in smoke. There are also only so many candidate stars to generate the isogen-5 and we've already destroyed 10 of them.
Perhaps the ancient civs had put in motion a 10,000 year plan to get enough isogen-5 to re-open the EVE gate or a wormhole back to Earth, and we just wrecked it. There's a lot of speculation in there, but it fits. |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
5358
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:24:02 -
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On Isogen-5: The superweapon used by the Amarr to destroy the Minmatar invasion fleet used Isogen-5 as fuel. The weapon inverted the shield systems of the affected ships, effectively crippling them. The piece out of which the superweapon was derived from came from the Eve Gate and the Other told the Empress where to find it, which was supposedly hidden by the Jove with a cloaking device, which happened to fail. Just like the current sleeper caches.
So we have a connection of Isogen-5 with the Other, Terran technology and the Eve Gate.
Also Rogue Drones were used to collect Isogen-5 at the Hive where the Abaddon with the superweapon was parked at (and destroyed). That would connect the Other with Rogue Drones.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
57
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Posted - 2014.12.01 02:43:49 -
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Shattering worlds to get to W-space. Then shattering W-space worlds to get... even deeper?
Improved Preview Tool for Ships, Stations, Gates etc.
Two Rogue Drone Mothers
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
16
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Posted - 2014.12.01 04:24:07 -
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Abrazzar wrote:On Isogen-5: The superweapon used by the Amarr to destroy the Minmatar invasion fleet used Isogen-5 as fuel. The weapon inverted the shield systems of the affected ships, effectively crippling them. The piece out of which the superweapon was derived from came from the Eve Gate and the Other told the Empress where to find it, which was supposedly hidden by the Jove with a cloaking device, which happened to fail. Just like the current sleeper caches.
So we have a connection of Isogen-5 with the Other, Terran technology and the Eve Gate.
Also Rogue Drones were used to collect Isogen-5 at the Hive where the Abaddon with the superweapon was parked at (and destroyed). That would connect the Other with Rogue Drones.
Interesting, so isogen-5 is used in terran tech like the EVE Gate and the Rogue Drones stumbled across a cache of it somewhere. The detonation of all the isogen-5 in the Seyllin disaster was an accident, but it's very coincidental that each cache was between planet I and the star. That suggests each cache was parked at the planet's L1 legrange point for 10,000 years, so it would have been found if it weren't cloaked.
Tying that in with your point about the Empress, that indicates that the Jove may have been responsible for keeping these caches safe and hidden all across New Eden while the Sleepers kept watch in systems off the stargate grid. The disaster coincidentally only happening in systems with Type O1 stars makes me think the caches were cloaked particle collectors running for thousands of years rather than just cloaked containers, though. I like how that ties in nicely with the purpose and motivation of the Sleepers. |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26167
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Posted - 2014.12.01 06:48:42 -
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I just heard leaked audio for the next trailer
"There's been an awakening. Have you felt it? The dark side and the light."
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Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
57
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Posted - 2014.12.01 09:22:56 -
[37] - Quote
Shattered Constellations
- C-C00327: J001348 J001398 J001670 J002838 J003789 J004283 J005923 J011339 J011563 J012794 J014348
- D-C00328: J001302 J001769 J002423 J002625 J004150 J004470 J005259 J005280 J005299 J005872 J005969 J010247 J010556 J011195 J011355 J011376 J011778 J011824
- E-C00329: J001025 J001694 J001820 J003382 J003546 J003793 J003941 J004128 J004921 J004998 J005070 J005223 J005663 J005724 J010811 J011790 J012578 J012773 J013146
- F-C00330: J010366 J010951 J012475 J012686 J015227
Out of them I visited J011376 and J005872. There were WH in, WH out, Shattered asteroid field, Shattered ice field, Shattered planets, A0 IV Turbelunt Blue Subgiant star, normal combat anomaly, normal scannable gas site. Pretty boring places, no lore sites or findings so far.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
17
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:12:57 -
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Siegfried Tahl wrote:Shattered Constellations Out of them I visited J011376 and J005872. There were WH in, WH out, Shattered asteroid field, Shattered ice field, Shattered planets, A0 IV Turbelunt Blue Subgiant star, normal combat anomaly, normal scannable gas site. Pretty boring places, no lore sites or findings so far. I would guess all the lore sites are not added yet so that the surprise isn't spoiled. |
Aladar Dangerface
Transcendent Sedition Protean Concept
26
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:41:59 -
[39] - Quote
As someone who has never taken an interest in lore before this, can someone point me to a good source of info for getting a more complete back-story on all this; sleepers, jove, talocon etc?
This new stuff is pretty interesting and i want to know moooaarr
Cheers
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Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
22
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:49:01 -
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Nyphur wrote: Para-Phrased: Happening Now: Lots happening with a new star in Jove, involving Sansha shindigs. Result: Thera will be a star gate project trade hub mega system, looking to build a stargate to earth, making the nameing of Thera quite ironic ... (thera also being earth etc).
Cool! I love this kinda stuff! Keep it coming!!!!
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Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
22
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Posted - 2014.12.01 13:53:31 -
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Any chance a Dev could come on here and (where able) confirm things as correct or wrong? Surely there's many bits being talked about here which are able to be confirmed like that without giving away any secrets?
That said, I rekon the Dev's must love these kind of threads. I know I would. Having people that inetrested enough to hyperbole and theorise on your creation (rightly or wrongly, or even just damn closely) would be awesome :)
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
19
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Posted - 2014.12.01 14:29:00 -
[42] - Quote
Leannor wrote:Any chance a Dev could come on here and (where able) confirm things as correct or wrong? Surely there's many bits being talked about here which are able to be confirmed like that without giving away any secrets?
That said, I rekon the Dev's must love these kind of threads. I know I would. Having people that inetrested enough to hyperbole and theorise on your creation (rightly or wrongly, or even just damn closely) would be awesome :) I think that would entirely spoil the fun. A huge part of what drew me to EVE back in 2004 was the idea that there could be secrets out there to unwravel and devs wouldn't confirm or deny them. I remember accidentally finding Taisu Magdesh's hidden mercenary complex in my home system of Thelan back when his tag was selling for 250-500m a pop, and my corpmates and I spun all kinds of theories about connections with Serpentis activity in the area.
When the COSMOS constellations opened and injected hints about the ancient Talocan, Yan Jung, Sleeper and Takmahl races and the activities of the Rogue Drones, it kicked that curiosity into overdrive and people like Pottsey and I started to piece together all the information from hidden exploration sites, in-character news posts and official chronicles. In recent years it's been people like Mark726 and a host of other players who have really dug into the secrets of the game, answering questions like how far W-Space is from K-space and compiling more data on the ancient civs. For a lot of people, this lore isn't just a curiosity or fiction; It's a core part of the game and a secret they want to try to unwravel. As CCP's focusing more on live events and making the storyline tie together these days, that's going to increasingly be the case.
Also, I think the devs like to watch the theories players come up with and use it to help guide the storyline long-term :p. |
Leannor
Central Builders Incorporated Northern Associates.
22
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Posted - 2014.12.01 16:52:40 -
[43] - Quote
Nyphur wrote:Leannor wrote:Any chance a Dev could come on here and (where able) confirm things as correct or wrong? Surely there's many bits being talked about here which are able to be confirmed like that without giving away any secrets?
That said, I rekon the Dev's must love these kind of threads. I know I would. Having people that inetrested enough to hyperbole and theorise on your creation (rightly or wrongly, or even just damn closely) would be awesome :) I think that would entirely spoil the fun. A huge part of what drew me to EVE back in 2004 was the idea that there could be secrets out there to unwravel and devs wouldn't confirm or deny them. I remember accidentally finding Taisu Magdesh's hidden mercenary complex in my home system of Thelan back when his tag was selling for 250-500m a pop, and my corpmates and I spun all kinds of theories about connections with Serpentis activity in the area. When the COSMOS constellations opened and injected hints about the ancient Talocan, Yan Jung, Sleeper and Takmahl races and the activities of the Rogue Drones, it kicked that curiosity into overdrive and people like Pottsey and I started to piece together all the information from hidden exploration sites, in-character news posts and official chronicles. In recent years it's been people like Mark726 and a host of other players who have really dug into the secrets of the game, answering questions like how far W-Space is from K-space and compiling more data on the ancient civs. For a lot of people, this lore isn't just a curiosity or fiction; It's a core part of the game and a secret they want to try to unwravel. As CCP's focusing more on live events and making the storyline tie together these days, that's going to increasingly be the case. Also, I think the devs like to watch the theories players come up with and use it to help guide the storyline long-term :p.
oh, totally agree, I just mean confirming something that's supposed to be 'out there' but everyone has got wrong, and basing new theories off wrong information. Might be useful to say "actually guys, hate to break it to you but the width of a star is actually in meters not feet, so your calc's are all out ..." type thing ... (but maybe not quite so basic lol).
But, yeah, no 'giviing away secrets or surpsies
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Radax Glenn
C5 Flight The Serenity Initiative
76
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Posted - 2014.12.01 22:12:12 -
[44] - Quote
Maybe additional confirmation to some of the UUA-F4 system tie in. Can't believe I missed this earlier, but check out the star map they posted on the EVE tumbler a few days back.
Star Map
It does appear that there are at least two links between Empire and UUA-F4.
Is this a visual error based on perspective, or do you feel this image indicates a link to UUA-F4? |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26365
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Posted - 2014.12.02 02:12:21 -
[45] - Quote
So those structures shattered those systems, as well as gates. Does that mean they might shatter our **** too?
Pretty sure I'm spending the night poking unidentified structures, I've had enough thera undocking games anyway.
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Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
60
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Posted - 2014.12.02 02:24:41 -
[46] - Quote
Sad but its perspective thing. http://i.imgur.com/pDusBRT.png
Hasama, its Hasama again! Hmmm...
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Jovian Labs Jovian Enterprises
12529
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Posted - 2014.12.02 02:26:48 -
[47] - Quote
I think I know where I'm setting up camp on patch day and christmas
A City made of Wood is built in the forest
A City made of Stone is built in the mountains
But a City made of Dreams...is built in heaven.
Jovian Proverb GÖâ
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Ned Thomas
Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects
357
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Posted - 2014.12.02 03:12:37 -
[48] - Quote
Is Hasama noteworthy for some reason?
Vote Sabriz!
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ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1887
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Posted - 2014.12.02 05:51:40 -
[49] - Quote
Heavy breathing intensifies.
Thanks all for your ongoing research into exciting changes that are apparently coming!
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Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
I do not respond to Eve Mail or anything other than the forums.
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Lachesiss
Chaos From Order Manifest Destiny.
13
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Posted - 2014.12.02 09:08:31 -
[50] - Quote
Nothing to see here just Jove super weapons detonating. |
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1136
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Posted - 2014.12.02 10:06:31 -
[51] - Quote
Ned Thomas wrote:Is Hasama noteworthy for some reason?
Well Siegfried Tahl did found this structure on Sisi in Hasama: Unknown Cloaked Structure
Ready yourself! The second Luminaire Snowball Fight is coming!
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1633
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Posted - 2014.12.02 19:52:41 -
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Stargate SG-1. One must always look to Stargate SG-1 for guidance in times like these...
Samantha Carter is out there, somewhere, getting ready to blow up that shiny new sun everyone is seeing in Apophis's..er..the Jove's faces....
Then the Orai...er..big alliances, are going to build super-gates to get us there.
All of this happened before, it will happen again.
Damnit, that's Battlestar Galactica isn't it?
F
Would you like to know more?
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Nishachara
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
9
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Posted - 2014.12.02 20:44:36 -
[53] - Quote
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Stargate SG-1. One must always look to Stargate SG-1 for guidance in times like these...
Samantha Carter is out there, somewhere, getting ready to blow up that shiny new sun everyone is seeing in Apophis's..er..the Jove's faces....
Then the Orai...er..big alliances, are going to build super-gates to get us there.
All of this happened before, it will happen again.
Damnit, that's Battlestar Galactica isn't it?
F
...i agree... resistance is futile unless we trust in the Force.
The Spice must Flow... |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
200
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Posted - 2014.12.03 02:32:56 -
[54] - Quote
It's a port of call, home away from home for diplomats, hustlers, entrepreneurs, and wanderers. Humans and aliens wrapped in two million, five hundred thousand tons of spinning metal, all alone in the night. |
Zahary Khema
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.12.03 12:07:52 -
[55] - Quote
Harrison Tato wrote:It's a port of call, home away from home for diplomats, hustlers, entrepreneurs, and wanderers. Humans and aliens wrapped in two million, five hundred thousand tons of spinning metal, all alone in the night. And the gate will lead us into Thirdspace... |
Caja Wrython
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx
2
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Posted - 2014.12.03 12:23:12 -
[56] - Quote
To lose this war means more than defeat, to surrender is to never go home. All of us must rise to the call... above and beyond. |
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
2807
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Posted - 2014.12.03 15:07:05 -
[57] - Quote
By Grabthar's hammer, this thread is going places.
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Vice Admiral
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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Zetsubou Gakusei
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.03 15:20:46 -
[58] - Quote
Jandice Ymladris wrote:Ned Thomas wrote:Is Hasama noteworthy for some reason? Well Siegfried Tahl did found this structure on Sisi in Hasama: Unknown Cloaked Structure
I still wonder HOW exactly he found it, I couldn't watch the video he posted. Did he scan it? Was it a beacon?
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
900
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Posted - 2014.12.03 17:24:11 -
[59] - Quote
Radax Glenn wrote:Great information from all parties! More images, I've gathered here: Celestial Object in UUAQuestion: I'm calculating "around" 14 or 15 light years between JZV-F4 and W477-P using the NeoCom map, and "eyeballing it". Can anyone confirm my numbers?
By my calculations and using data from the SDE, the distance between JZV and W477 is exactly 12.58827843 ly, or 1.19092*(10^14) kilometers (10^17 meters).
I tried confirming with DOTLAN. But they do not include Jove space or UUA region in its calculations. However, the math is easy enough.
distance = sqrt((x2-x1)^2+(y2-y1)^2+(z2-z1)^2) where:
systemxyz JZV-F41.28444E+165.79283E+161.67069E+17 W477-P8.9479E+164.69391E+162.57563E+17
c/d?
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Anslo
Scope Works The Blacklist.
22992
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Posted - 2014.12.03 17:29:42 -
[60] - Quote
Trii seo did the calculations and got 12000 LY
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
900
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Posted - 2014.12.03 17:43:37 -
[61] - Quote
Siegfried Tahl wrote:Shattered Constellations
- C-C00327: J001348 J001398 J001670 J002838 J003789 J004283 J005923 J011339 J011563 J012794 J014348
- D-C00328: J001302 J001769 J002423 J002625 J004150 J004470 J005259 J005280 J005299 J005872 J005969 J010247 J010556 J011195 J011355 J011376 J011778 J011824
- E-C00329: J001025 J001694 J001820 J003382 J003546 J003793 J003941 J004128 J004921 J004998 J005070 J005223 J005663 J005724 J010811 J011790 J012578 J012773 J013146
- F-C00330: J010366 J010951 J012475 J012686 J015227
In my bio on Sisi viewable links for those ^ Out of them I visited J011376 and J005872. There were WH in, WH out, Shattered asteroid field, Shattered ice field, Shattered planets, A0 IV Turbelunt Blue Subgiant star, normal combat anomaly, normal scannable gas site. Pretty boring places, no lore sites or findings so far.
Just to clarify, this is on sisi, right? The current live SDE has none of that.
TQ SDE shows 10 systems with a shattered planet, the 9 already mentioned above (all planet 1), and PE1-R1 Planet VII. Coincidentally, PE1 is where AT XII took place, and is adjacent to Polaris in UUA-F4. Not sure if significant.
PE1 star is a type G3 Pink Small. Planet 7 is not the last planet in the system. It has 11 planets in total.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Erin Crawford
363
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Posted - 2014.12.03 17:45:14 -
[62] - Quote
Nishachara wrote:Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Stargate SG-1. One must always look to Stargate SG-1 for guidance in times like these...
Samantha Carter is out there, somewhere, getting ready to blow up that shiny new sun everyone is seeing in Apophis's..er..the Jove's faces....
Then the Orai...er..big alliances, are going to build super-gates to get us there.
All of this happened before, it will happen again.
Damnit, that's Battlestar Galactica isn't it?
F
...i agree... resistance is futile unless we trust in the Force. The Spice must Flow... But, the flow will only spice because it is not the spoon that bends it is only yourself..! ...wait, what?
Thanks again to all those digging up this info. Have really been enjoying these posts the last couple of days. |
Zetsubou Gakusei
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.12.03 17:50:18 -
[63] - Quote
Dotlan keeps showing jumps happening in several systems in UUA-F4, I wonder if it's just CCP testing stuff or they are actually making them happen hoping people checking the map statistics will notice |
Siegfried Tahl
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2014.12.03 18:12:39 -
[64] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:Siegfried Tahl wrote:Shattered Constellations
- C-C00327: J001348 J001398 J001670 J002838 J003789 J004283 J005923 J011339 J011563 J012794 J014348
- D-C00328: J001302 J001769 J002423 J002625 J004150 J004470 J005259 J005280 J005299 J005872 J005969 J010247 J010556 J011195 J011355 J011376 J011778 J011824
- E-C00329: J001025 J001694 J001820 J003382 J003546 J003793 J003941 J004128 J004921 J004998 J005070 J005223 J005663 J005724 J010811 J011790 J012578 J012773 J013146
- F-C00330: J010366 J010951 J012475 J012686 J015227
In my bio on Sisi viewable links for those ^ Out of them I visited J011376 and J005872. There were WH in, WH out, Shattered asteroid field, Shattered ice field, Shattered planets, A0 IV Turbelunt Blue Subgiant star, normal combat anomaly, normal scannable gas site. Pretty boring places, no lore sites or findings so far. Just to clarify, this is on sisi, right? The current live SDE has none of that. TQ SDE shows 10 systems with a shattered planet, the 9 already mentioned above (all planet 1), and PE1-R1 Planet VII. Coincidentally, PE1 is where AT XII took place, and is adjacent to Polaris in UUA-F4. Not sure if significant. PE1 star is a type G3 Pink Small. Planet 7 is not the last planet in the system. It has 11 planets in total.
SISI, yep. New Mirror happened on SISI today, I got a portion of SP but lost all the new bookmarks and links I put in bio, so no constellations links anymore.
I had links for G-C00324 - Thera, B-C00326 to F-C00330 new constellstions with 65 systems in them, all added to existing WH regions. Each had 4 to 9 planets, all shattered.
You go any WH, right-click its name in left corner, 'Show in Mapbrowser', right-click region, there be a list of constellstions in it http://i.imgur.com/mrsAJVk.jpg Some have new constellations added, some dont (after all theres 310 old ones and ~20 new).
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
900
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Posted - 2014.12.03 18:19:18 -
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Anslo wrote:Trii seo did the calculations and got 12000 LY
Clearly, those 2 systems are not 12000 ly apart. The x,y,z coordinates in the SDE are in meters not kilometers. That would explain how he got 12000ly instead of 12.
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
905
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Posted - 2014.12.04 15:37:47 -
[66] - Quote
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/UUA-F4#shattered
Shattered planet in PE1. Hmm...
http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
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Muzzaroo
Reikoku Pandemic Legion
1
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Posted - 2014.12.06 16:24:06 -
[67] - Quote
Soldarius wrote:http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/UUA-F4#shattered
Shattered planet in PE1. Hmm...
Shattered worlds were once terrestrial planets, torn asunder by some immense cataclysm. All such worlds in the New Eden cluster are products of the disastrous stellar events that occurred during the "Seyllin Incident". However, reports continue to circulate of similar planets discovered in the unmapped systems reached exclusively through unstable wormholes. How these met their fate, if indeed they exist at all, is unknown. |
AOSA
Atreidun Order
2
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Posted - 2014.12.12 04:28:54 -
[68] - Quote
Slightly off topic, but still quite relevant and supportive of other theory mentioned here, why would CCP place SoE ships under the pirate faction category if they were neutral or have good intentions for them? I mean ORE ships are not placed under pirate faction lists. I agree that SoE was likely up to no good and is just capitalizing of the ignorance of the empires and Capsuleers, scouting WH's and utilizing their connections to find a new way to construct a new Eve Gate. |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
273
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Posted - 2014.12.21 23:39:12 -
[69] - Quote
Siegfried Tahl wrote:I had links for G-C00324 - Thera, B-C00326 to F-C00330 new constellstions with 65 systems in them, all added to existing WH regions. Each had 4 to 9 planets, all shattered. You go any WH, right-click its name in left corner, 'Show in Mapbrowser', right-click region, there be a list of constellstions in it http://i.imgur.com/mrsAJVk.jpg "
... all the hidden things, so much info in EVE :S |
Araceli Gabriela
Galactic Industries Inc. BRABODEN
14
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Posted - 2014.12.29 09:22:42 -
[70] - Quote
In a WH (J005280) that brought back db errors so I googled it and found this somewhat recent thread with this WH in it. I've been in these before, but this is the first time it never came up in third party stuff.
http://i.imgur.com/0TSjySd.png
http://i.imgur.com/8Gl8lE8.png
for what its worth |
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Barrogh Habalu
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
840
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Posted - 2014.12.29 12:05:34 -
[71] - Quote
AOSA wrote:Slightly off topic, but still quite relevant and supportive of other theory mentioned here, why would CCP place SoE ships under the pirate faction category if they were neutral or have good intentions for them? I mean ORE ships are not placed under pirate faction lists. I agree that SoE was likely up to no good and is just capitalizing of the ignorance of the empires and Capsuleers, scouting WH's and utilizing their connections to find a new way to construct a new Eve Gate. Ore ships don't fit that paradigm of requiring 2 racial skills to fly, so there's that.
That said, something like "constructing new EVE gate" doesn't necessarily mean that whoever is going to attempt that is "up to no good". That said, we don't know much of their intentions and we are just speculating here, so... |
Bob Maths
Aliastra Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.12.29 12:38:16 -
[72] - Quote
Don't any of you use parsecs, the standard astronomical unit for distances? |
Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1205
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Posted - 2014.12.29 13:34:04 -
[73] - Quote
Bob Maths wrote:Don't any of you use parsecs, the standard astronomical unit for distances? Also, you really need to use more accurate methods of measuring distances of the astronomical kind.
People use the measuring units given by the game. For 'astronomical distances' Eve uses Lightyears, Astronomical Unit & KiloMetres to measure its distances.
While Parsec is the official interstellar measuring unit in the real world, it has no bearing in Eve. Denerally, most ingame unknown distances are achieved by trigonometry, as the parallax measurement, often used in astronomy to measure distances generally doesn't work in EvE.
Finding the way to Thera thanks to EvE-Scout!
Luminaire Snowball Festival turns out amazing!
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Bob Maths
Aliastra Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.12.29 13:50:56 -
[74] - Quote
Jandice Ymladris wrote:Bob Maths wrote:Don't any of you use parsecs, the standard astronomical unit for distances? Also, you really need to use more accurate methods of measuring distances of the astronomical kind. People use the measuring units given by the game. For 'astronomical distances' Eve uses Lightyears, Astronomical Unit & KiloMetres to measure its distances. While Parsec is the official interstellar measuring unit in the real world, it has no bearing in Eve. Denerally, most ingame unknown distances are achieved by trigonometry, as the parallax measurement, often used in astronomy to measure distances generally doesn't work in EvE.
Don't tell me you're using sine and cosine rules along with the undefeatable pythagoras' theorem? How can I doubt your calculations now? |
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
249
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Posted - 2014.12.29 17:35:28 -
[75] - Quote
Bob Maths wrote:Don't any of you use parsecs, the standard astronomical unit for distances? Also, you really need to use more accurate methods of measuring distances of the astronomical kind.
Growing up on Corellia they taught us in school that a parsec was a measure of speed. |
Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
1425
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Posted - 2014.12.29 17:45:28 -
[76] - Quote
Bob Maths wrote:Don't any of you use parsecs, the standard astronomical unit for distances? One astronomical unit is one astronomical unit, which is roughly the distance from Earth to Sol. (not me)
Wikipedia wrote:One parsec is the distance at which one astronomical unit subtends an angle of one arcsecond.[1]
Wikipedia wrote:A second of arc (arcsecond, arcsec) is 1Güä60 of an arc minute, 1Güä3,600 of a degree, 1Güä1,296,000 of a circle, and -ÇGüä648,000 (about 1Güä206,265) of a radian.
Wikipedia wrote:A minute of arc (MOA), arcminute (arcmin) or minute arc is a unit of angular measurement equal to one-sixtieth (1Güä60) of one degree.
I know what you wanted to say, but the way you said it ... nope.
Thanks.
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Jandice Ymladris
Aurora Arcology
1206
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Posted - 2014.12.29 19:36:50 -
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Bob Maths wrote:
Don't tell me you're using sine and cosine rules along with the undefeatable pythagoras' theorem? How can I doubt your calculations now?
You are indeed correct But as you can imagine, there's still a wide margin of error, hence the calculations & observations are done by multiple people, from multiple locations. Repeated measurements & calculations reduce the margin of error, a simple scientific principle. A recent example of this was measuring the location of Caroline's Star, which was determined to be happening in in the region next to Jove space, in or very close to the W477-P system. Note, a few close-by systems were also considered, due to the margin of error.
Later on official confirmation came in through CCP in their ingame newsarticle about Caroline's Star: Stellar anomaly detected by Capsuleers, Scientists baffled by superluminary effects confirming that W477-P was indeed the system with the exploding star.
Soldarius wrote:http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/UUA-F4#shattered
Shattered planet in PE1. Hmm...
This one's been around for a while and people investigating lore don't know what to do with it. Reason is because it's not sure if it is 'canon' or a CCP test system. If you check out the system details in the game, you'll notice it has exactly 1 of each planet, with the shattered world the furthest away (as if added last, a plausibility as shattered world were the last worldtype included) Generally, this system is excluded when looking into the mystery of the shattered worlds of Seyllin (albeit always kept in mind, just in case)
Finding the way to Thera thanks to EvE-Scout!
Luminaire Snowball Festival turns out amazing!
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Jenshae Chiroptera
The Volition Cult
675
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Posted - 2014.12.30 04:27:10 -
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Erin Crawford wrote:But, the flow will only spice because it is not the spoon that bends it is only yourself..! ...wait, what? .
Was it so in the past of the future that humans did what is yet to be done as an extension of the unrealised reality?
CSM Ten movement for change.
EVE - the only MMO that not so subtly serves up victims.
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
382
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Posted - 2014.12.30 10:36:58 -
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Nyphur wrote:
Working theory: My current working theory is that SOE used Sansha's Nation's wormhole-controlling tech to explore UUA-F4 and found systems with shattered planets. They got to J-YQEC and discovered the Talocan equipment on the star, which was designed to extract something from the star and open massive wormholes over long distances (like an artificial EVE Gate). The Talocan may even have been migratory because they were extracting a finite rare resource from stars or testing stars for the potential to open a stable wormhole to Earth.
SOE built up stations in the system and researched the device, then attempted a test by opening a wormhole to the W477-P system (where the "star" has been localised to). Thera's star went unstable and fired off several huge CMEs, destroying the stations on the inner planets and causing the shattering event in the region that destroyed all the stargates. Similar to how the Seylinn disaster caused unstable wormholes to sleeper space, this disaster has opened wormholes to UUA-F4 and Thera gets the most static wormholes as it's the epicentre of the phenomenon.
Thera will become the site of research into creating an artificial supergate to another galaxy to where the Talocan went. Check out the Prophecy trailer from Fanfest 2014, notice how it's in a system with a blue star like Thera? We know CCP plans to have the whole playerbase work together to build and fight over the first player-built stargate, so why not in a hub system like Thera?
By all accounts and assumptions SOE is heavily manipulated by the Jove so no need for them to "barge in" the Jove systems like that - unless they could not have predicted where the outter end will appear. I also doubt that the Jove would have agreed to experiment on one of their own systems (especially when the knowledge on this is at best scarce).
I have this sense that soon we will enter Jove space only to find a desolate battlefield... A0 stars must be something the Sleepers really appreciate :)
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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Nami Kumamato
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
382
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Posted - 2014.12.30 10:42:33 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Erin Crawford wrote:But, the flow will only spice because it is not the spoon that bends it is only yourself..! ...wait, what? . Was it so in the past of the future that humans did what is yet to be done as an extension of the unrealised reality?
Quick Ripley, take this ring to Han Solo so that Neo can defeat the Cylons!
" And now my ship is oh so cloaked and fit -
I never felt so good, I never felt so hid ! "
- Ramona McCandless, Untitled
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AOSA
Atreidun Order
4
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:12:57 -
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"Ore ships don't fit that paradigm of requiring 2 racial skills to fly, so there's that."
That said, something like "constructing new EVE gate" doesn't necessarily mean that whoever is going to attempt that is "up to no good". That said, we don't know much of their intentions and we are just speculating here, so...[/quote]
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Arthur Aihaken
X A X
4046
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:30:00 -
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The Jovians are dead.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Mharius Skjem
Opacity Circles
291
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Posted - 2014.12.30 23:55:41 -
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Or they are almost dead which is just as good.
A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve...
Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
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Asura Vajrarupa
Anarchist Industrial Syndicate of Metropolis
15
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Posted - 2014.12.31 01:48:03 -
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:Everyone who can get on SISI, take a look towards Jove space and UUA-F4: all of the stargates in the three regions have disappeared. As it is, there will be 110 new systems with Rhea- and there are 110 systems in UUA-F4 excluding the dev test systems. From this, we can say that Jove space is safe. But at the same time, this means something even bigger- if the new wormhole systems and Thera are UUA-F4, than the Sleepers have been closer than we knew all along- and they have been right next to the Jovians. The Jovians have stayed out of that region- they hold no sovereignty in it and have avoided it. And with the new star appearing and the Sleepers returning, they have decommissioned all of their gates- and looking at the story so far, it seems like the gates in UUA are gone because of whatever shattered every planet in the systems. This is getting better and better
Good catch, I noticed their gate links gone but didn't put two and two together. Maybe the Jove are going the route of the Stargate Asgard, accepting their extinction to keep the sleepers away from something.
Ignorance is the cause of suffering.
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