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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.12.19 17:18:02 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Quote:Another oddity about a small dev team for AUR store assets is the NES has the unique virtue of potentially paying for its own dev time through AUR purchases. It's a huge shame, but I suppose that's an issue with EVE culture overall.
Potentially. And what if you try to push more people in that dev team and towards Incarna and suddenly potentially it doesn't pay off? "Oh no. We have to lay off whole team because we don't have enough money to pay for tap water" The sad guy will come, than this guys, and at the end... I think they have to be carefull developing all those games at once. Clothing items are a way for CCP to influence PLEX prices. Thsy are a nice and decent way of income.
The only thing missing is CCP adapting to the potential, to make efficient use of it.
I haven't successfully invested countless hours in this just for a clueless doomsayer coming here talking crap about something he has no understanding of.
Yes, that's you.
Or, in other words ... |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.19 17:20:12 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Quote:Another oddity about a small dev team for AUR store assets is the NES has the unique virtue of potentially paying for its own dev time through AUR purchases. It's a huge shame, but I suppose that's an issue with EVE culture overall.
Potentially. And what if you try to push more people in that dev team and towards Incarna and suddenly potentially it doesn't pay off? "Oh no. We have to lay off whole team because we don't have enough money to pay for tap water" The sad guy will come, than this guys, and at the end... I think they have to be carefull developing all those games at once. Eewwwwww you smeeellll!!!!! *holds nose and waves air away*
Last I checked, signatures can now be changed while being forumbanned.
In case you are reading this while being naked... consider yourself caught!
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Jon Dekker
Dekker Corporation
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Posted - 2014.12.19 17:27:14 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:Dersen Lowery wrote:+1 to more formal wear. Also, +1 to more clothing that looks like it came from wildly different, far-flung worlds. Don't be shy! Maybe iridescence would be a fun variable to play with.
And I want to second the person who said that the NeX store preview should allow us to preview multiple things at once. Having to buy one piece to see how it might look with another piece is incredibly annoying. Also, we should be able to access the clothes we normally have access to in addition to the stuff in the store. I almost always look at how the clothing fits in SISI before I buy it on TQ, whether with AUR or ISK.
That's a great idea! |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.19 18:59:43 -
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Here's a really sexy visual experience that k8 uploaded, and I don't mean just the piloting. The atmosphere and the immersion had me in so deep I lost all voluntary muscle control just watching it. It's relevant as an example of why an overall opinion of being happy with what we've got is all kinds of wrong.
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Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.19 19:02:05 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Here's a really sexy visual experience that k8 uploaded, and I don't mean just the piloting. The atmosphere and the immersion had me in so deep I lost all voluntary muscle control just watching it. It's relevant as an example of why an overall opinion of being happy with what we've got is all kinds of wrong. You missed when Kate and I were rubbing hulls in E:D group play
Bacon makes us stronger
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.19 19:07:18 -
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you shut your lying mouth this instant!
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Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.19 19:53:08 -
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Rain6637 wrote:Here's a really sexy visual experience that k8 uploaded, and I don't mean just the piloting. The atmosphere and the immersion had me in so deep I lost all voluntary muscle control just watching it. It's relevant as an example of why an overall opinion of being happy with what we've got is all kinds of wrong.
I GÖÑ the Rain system in ED too.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
490
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Posted - 2014.12.19 19:59:10 -
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I wish I could buy it. |
Kellie Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration Anoikis Ronin
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Posted - 2014.12.19 20:06:03 -
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CCP karkur wrote:Fashion drama, best drama? You just sum up wormhole life one sentence.
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Jarod Garamonde
Jolly Codgers Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2014.12.19 20:11:53 -
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Two words:
Customizable. Poses.
That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...
[#savethelance]
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.12.19 21:10:36 -
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Quote:clueless doomsayer coming here talking crap about something he has no understanding of Do you have more understanding about Incarna and game development than anyone out of CCP now? Please share the knowledge.
Or did I stung too deep with my doomsaying?
I can be more bitter than that, easily. That was nothing.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2014.12.19 22:57:56 -
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Quote:I really don't care about your doom scenario example, or anyone saying Incarna was a failure. I do see potential with Incarna as a concept, as many others. But after seeing what CCP have done with WoD, "there was not much gameplay to it", and realizing that Incarna suffered the same fate even earlier, I know that the next project so grandeur will not come to EVE.
Come on, cloths, that is all we can get, and 2 people in that team. This viking lost both hands, holding the wrong side of the sword, trying to swing at oponents that watched it and smiled, with a realization that this sword will ultimately be theirs, and they will hold it right, maybe not swing it, but they know its shine can lure others.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
27863
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Posted - 2014.12.19 23:17:07 -
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Ah, so you don't get who the responsible party is for Incarna. Pretty sure WoD and Incarna had slightly different causes. One management, the other the players. Lumping them into the same ...category... is not accurate.
It's impolite to call people names, no matter the likeness to the description. I do not engage in such activity, so when Incarna rabblers are called angry neckbeards with no fashion sense anyway, I very, very strongly detest such personal attacks. For the sake of brevity and to identify them as a group, it's much more correct to refer to them by their actions, or "monument shooters."
Monument shooters basically need to be sat in a corner when it comes to things they don't understand. The growth of a game I like has been stunted enough. I would like more acknowledgement for the avatars who obey our commands, which I enjoy. After all, EVE is not a first-person simulation, and it is the avatar who pilots a ship, not you.
We've played spaceken and barbie complete with a pink malibu corvette all along, and most players don't even know it.
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.20 01:09:00 -
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So you decided to take a conversation where CCP was gracious enough to provide insight into their current bandwidth and capabilities, and you turned it into an Incarna rant? The unfortunate thing about this is that I know you realize, as much as I do, that your rant will accomplish nothing.
Character Creator is an aspect of the game that exists and CCP is actively building on it and cautiously optimistic about it.
If you don't think they are optimistic enough, then build a platform for feedback to CCP that would drive them to rethink their CC design headcount. If you have better ideas for design, then provide them without going on a diatribe about how poor of a job the designers are doing.
And it goes without saying, put the Incarna rant to rest and instead concentrate your energy on the so-called low hanging fruit. You are wasting your energy otherwise, you really are.
Friendship is the best ship.
Sabriz for CSM go go go
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
540
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Posted - 2014.12.20 02:08:16 -
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Well ... he had his rant.
Can we move on now?
This thread isn't exactly the official thread to change the game ... ... so why not channel the energy into something productive?
Things won't change from today to tomorrow. While I do not promote WiS in any way or form, I believe that shouldn't be the goal anyway. We're simply way too far away from that.
A satisfying WiS can not be achieved with the current reality of character costumisation. It's not doable, simply because absolutely most characters would look alike. There isn't enough emphasis on personality yet.
We should first concentrate on the important stepping stones ... ... before we can reach out for a greater goal.
That's why we're all in this thread anyway, right? Because of character customisation. Looks. Clothes. Personalities.
And once this point is satisfyingly achieved ... ... we can move on to Expression and Interaction.
Sheesh .... that was one of my better ones. |
Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.12.20 02:09:39 -
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Which reminds me ... is DNA still a thing? Dynamic Nurbs Application?
For inter-racial characters? |
Rain6637
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.20 05:39:03 -
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Wull, I tried making sense with pictures but that was going nowhere. Say Incarna and suddenly people start listening.
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub | Twitter |-ámk.III | Imgur
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Andreus Ixiris
Duty. Circle-Of-Two
5194
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Posted - 2014.12.20 08:00:16 -
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I want CCP to allow us to wear our goggles on our forehead. This would be a very, very simple change since as the linked image shows they have quite obviously already implemented that functionality into their character creation engine.
Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.
Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.
Andreus Ixiris > ...
Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7439
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Posted - 2014.12.20 09:31:58 -
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Quote:Pretty sure WoD and Incarna had slightly different causes. One management, the other the players. Oh yes...
Quote:"monument shooters." I have the screenshoots of people shooting it, I looked at the chat, I shunned them, they were afraid of microtransactions, but still we have them. For the most, it was microtransactions, and a lengthy thread about the door, full of memes. I remember what they said earlier about further development of Incarna part and spaceship part, they said many thing about it on fanfest, there was blog about it after the rage, but at the end it was the management who decided to drop the ball, it happened because it was clearly too heavy on development for Icelandic crew, would be too lengthy to implement, spaceships would suffer, and they still tried to push WoD out.
But that is history and now to the point:
Quote:Sheesh .... that was one of my better ones. But still its game about the spaceships. You talk about developed characters. They are developed. There is environment and there is gameplay. More clothes will not change this drastically. I had the same feeling about immersion when I started playing the game, as I have now. Immersion without CQ is possible. At the end, its not the pretty graphics what's essential.
Don't get me wrong. Clothes are only a spice to the dish served by spaceships and people ambition. After all it's good spice.
And that was the impressions I got from this talk with CCP devs and overall about the game.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
566
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Posted - 2014.12.20 09:54:58 -
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There is no point in talking to you when all you do is present a wall with the goal to end any talks about this... and that's what you do.
You already have what you got, as you state yourself. You think your level of immersion is enough and oppose any talks we are trying to have. You represent stagnation and opposition.
There is no need to talk to a wall, so I won't.
I hope others as well understand that you have nothing here to say ... ... because you have your point made and refuse to accept that what you deem as enough ...
... isn't enough for everyone.
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Candi LeMew
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.12.20 10:01:31 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:I want CCP to allow us to wear our goggles on our forehead. This would be a very, very simple change since as the linked image shows they have quite obviously already implemented that functionality into their character creation engine. This one hundred times.
=ƒÉÆ I am a banana.
"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
566
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Posted - 2014.12.20 10:03:34 -
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Candi LeMew wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:I want CCP to allow us to wear our goggles on our forehead. This would be a very, very simple change since as the linked image shows they have quite obviously already implemented that functionality into their character creation engine. This one hundred times. In before: Oh you have a face too!! ;) |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
7439
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Posted - 2014.12.20 10:54:13 -
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Quote:all you do is present a wall with the goal to end any talks about this You think its my goal. It is not. I presented my stance for you to think about. Please continue as always with yours.
Quote:I hope others as well understand that you have nothing here to say ... Yes, because in fact I have said so much about clothes, about Incarna, about further development earlier, in many posts I presented my ideas, but I was not, as you would say, overly dedicated on those matters, because after all, you know my stance. It's different than yours. Thats good we have different stances. Thats good CCP have their stance.
Quote:There is no need to talk to a wall, so I won't. You are right, don't waste energy on me, you have to push harder against the right wall, CCP wall, I mean, take some action going, like always.
Don't look any further for negative energy, you will find it by being lazy.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.12.20 10:57:57 -
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I pushed against the wall several times already ... ... and so far it moved every time ... ... so ... case closed. :) |
Mizhir
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
70338
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Posted - 2014.12.20 12:45:50 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Race changes, I see it, but don't like the idea. It's a kick to the mouth of Role Playing. As for gender changes... don't get me started. *double facepalm* Players so unattached to their char should not bloody have an avatar, period.
Why is it a kick to RPs? We can have immortality through clones, so why can't we have gene manipulation?
I'm unattached to my char because CCP changed it to something else than what I picked. All I want is the option to make her look like I want her to look.
@Mike: I remember that. But there is still a long way from talking with CSM to actually implementing it.
One Man Crew - Collective Solo PVP - Video is out!
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
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Posted - 2014.12.20 13:01:31 -
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Mizhir wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Race changes, I see it, but don't like the idea. It's a kick to the mouth of Role Playing. As for gender changes... don't get me started. *double facepalm* Players so unattached to their char should not bloody have an avatar, period. Why is it a kick to RPs? We can have immortality through clones, so why can't we have gene manipulation? I'm unattached to my char because CCP changed it to something else than what I picked. All I want is the option to make her look like I want her to look. @Mike: I remember that. But there is still a long way from talking with CSM to actually implementing it. Hey Miz!
CCP changed your character? HowWhatWhyWtf? |
Odelya d'Hanguest
ZERO HEAVY INDUSTRIES 24eme Legion Etrangere
581
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Posted - 2014.12.20 13:19:45 -
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Great job bringing this discussion up, it is very much appreciated. |
Mizhir
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
70339
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Posted - 2014.12.20 13:39:22 -
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Sol Project wrote:Mizhir wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Race changes, I see it, but don't like the idea. It's a kick to the mouth of Role Playing. As for gender changes... don't get me started. *double facepalm* Players so unattached to their char should not bloody have an avatar, period. Why is it a kick to RPs? We can have immortality through clones, so why can't we have gene manipulation? I'm unattached to my char because CCP changed it to something else than what I picked. All I want is the option to make her look like I want her to look. @Mike: I remember that. But there is still a long way from talking with CSM to actually implementing it. Hey Miz! CCP changed your character? HowWhatWhyWtf?
I was refering to when they made the new char creator. Miz used to have pretty eyes.
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Sol Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
574
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Posted - 2014.12.20 14:31:49 -
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Wow, cute eyes!
Looks reproduceable to me... I'll give it a try! |
Commissar Kate
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.12.20 14:35:12 -
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Sol Project wrote:Wow, cute eyes! Omg she's adorable! I'll give it a try!
HA! That's pretty much impossible with Vherokior.
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