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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.17 17:34:31 -
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Colette Kassia wrote:GM Response On BumpingOr course, that thread is at 34 pages of rather unconstructive comments. I don't blame you for wanting to start fresh. I've thought about this a great deal. The usual suggestions about instigators gaining a suspect or criminal flag wouldn't work because of how easily it could be gamed. And most ideas to allow the victim to wriggle away get shot down for how they would break some nulsec or w-space tactic. The only other thing I can think of is for CONCORD to step in with some kind of soft anti-gravity blast to break-up the clusterf***. Perhaps after three or more collisions between a single ship that is trying to initiate warp and one or more ships that aren't a CONCORD ship spawns and fires their anti-grav thingy to scatter the involved ships over a 100km area. The effect on Jita undock would be hilarious.
I always wondered how you can 'make an effort to move on' when you're poverty tackled.....
I also enjoy the mental gymnastics by people defending the ability to deprive people control of their ship with no manner of flagging at all. Still, they're probably all still under their beds hiding from the interceptors. |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.18 08:06:10 -
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Nors Phlebas Sabelhpsron wrote:As has been mentioned, webs are your friend. A Daredevil with a 90% web will drop a freighter into warp in theoretically 2 seconds (probably 3 in practice) if it's done right - you can't possibly get bumped in that time.
And yes, it is reasonable to expect a capital ship to be extremely vulnerable without at least one support ship assisting it.
You need to use recons, regional gates can spit you out 40+ km apart. |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.18 11:20:27 -
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Colette Kassia wrote:Otherwise, we will need to talk about dedicated-purpose warp remote-assist modules.
Or we use the collective brainpower to devise a way that flags people who are tackling you.
These guys genuinely crack me up, "high sec is too safe, we provide the risk!" /hides behind concord in bumping pirate BS.
The risk reward of the mechanic is whack, but all you'll get on here - literally all - is that it is working as intended, be active and bring friends.
Also, rather hilariously, these are the same arguments people find unreasonable about entosis counters...but that's none of my business
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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.18 13:16:10 -
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Black Pedro wrote:afkalt wrote:[quote=Colette Kassia]These guys genuinely crack me up, "high sec is too safe, we provide the risk!" /hides behind concord in bumping pirate BS.
The risk reward of the mechanic is whack, but all you'll get on here - literally all - is that it is working as intended, be active and bring friends. As the good admiral says that bumping-fit pirate BS is paper thin. That there is yet another counter to bumping. If you don't like what someone is doing with their Machariel, blow it up and take your medicine from CONCORD, as the game designers intended. That, or scout and bring friends to protect your vulnerable capital ship and not let it get caught in the first place, as the game designers intend. However, I don't think you will find much support for your proposal to remove CONCORD. Although I imagine the bumpers and their ganker friends might be one of the few groups that would be on board with your plan to make it impossible to "hide behind CONCORD" in highsec.
I didnt say remove concord, simply that I do not support in any way shape or form is depriving people of control of their ship with no flagging whatsoever. It's utterly ass backwards.
People should need to man up and flag up for that. Of course scramming and hard tackling is :hard: |
afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.18 13:59:03 -
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Black Pedro wrote:afkalt wrote:I didnt say remove concord, simply that I do not support in any way shape or form is depriving people of control of their ship with no flagging whatsoever. It's utterly ass backwards. People should need to man up and flag up for that. Of course scramming and hard tackling is :hard: Hard? it is actually impossible to tackle an unflagged freighter in highsec due to the current CONCORD mechanics. If you removed bumping, how would gankers tackle a freighter at all?
It's just as impossible as shooting it. Which totally never happens. Right? |
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