Klyith wrote:Sgt Ocker wrote:Well maybe what CCP Masterplan quoted as to how it will work is wrong..
Quote:B) A link from outside that alliance starts capturing, at which point the accumulated progress must first be reduced down to 0 before the new capturer can start building up his progress.
You might want to take that up with him.
Alliance A partially captures a structure then leaves, for whatever reason.
Alliance B (an ally of the sov holder) is seen by the server as an attacker, activates Entosis - reduces accumulated progress to zero - turns off Entosis.
Damn!! It would seem, under the right circumstances - An ally can remove capture progress.
CCP Masterplan's post, on page 5 of the thread Capture work on neutral structures (apparently a freshly deployed TCU/Ihub), and command nodes for the second station timer. Reinforcement works on owned structures. They have different mechanics.
I'm really sorry but what makes you so sure what Fozzie says in the blog is correct and what Masterplan said is wrong?
Do you think the devs who wrote the code would no less about it than their spokesperson?
I believe CCP Masterplan took his information from having worked on the project whereas CCP Fozzie is writing out a blog based only on information he is handed, which he can interpret and type out however he likes.
Of course 1 defender vs 20 attackers sounds balanced - Doesn't it?
Why have persistent capture points - So the next guy can come along and complete the job? That too sounds awfully balanced.
One of the proposed ways it will work is open to abuse in very specific situations, the other is open to abuse by everyone all the time. I know which I think will create the most long term content.
And just to save you typing out a whole lot of stuff not relevant to what I posted. Partially captured doesn't start anything, it has nothing to do with whether the station or iHub is already RF'd. Partially capturing is simply that, group fly in run entosis for X mins and leaves, no capture, nothing RF'd so no end result or next stage.
Except; going by the blog, anyone who then enters the system can finish the capture process by completing the cycles remaining from the guys who started the capture. (that's not open to abuse or manipulation, is it)
Funny but I think CCP Masterplan wrote it out very well, where the blog is just blanket, basic information, with many gaps.
Maybe, just maybe, in this case someone should officially put the issue to bed.
Does an attacker 1st have to remove capture progress made by someone else?
Is persistent capture progress available to subsequent attackers?
Does each attacker only gain from individual progress made, if so, where does that leave a defender?
Will the defender need 1 entosis link for active for each attacker or will 1 stall progress of all?