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Ivant Sumboodi
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 00:54:00 -
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What's lame about the actual email is that it "teaches" noobies to only form corps that demand full APIs. Yeah I know EVE is about healthy paranoia or something blah blah, but basic asset management would solve a lot of problems. Maybe not the problem of wardec intel but noobies can handle small fun corps w/o this sort of rapage happening to them. And the email makes it sound like it's pure inevitability- that is what I find a bit disgusting about it. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11166
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Posted - 2015.06.02 00:58:15 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:As a self-proclaimed industrialist, but not a carebear, I of course am not fond of CODE. play-style, but I respect their right to exist and have fun in their own way. Shhh... Us non carebear bears are a myth as far as some of our "contemporaries" are concerned.
We need a new animal, as 'bears' are tainted.
I choose to be known as a "CareBison" from now on.
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Damnskippy
Hounds of War. Hashashin Cartel
44
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:12:01 -
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That mail is no different than a convo taking place after a fight stating:
"This is how I beat you."
"This is how you can counter it."
"These are the people that will take you under their wing and teach you."
This is considered proper etiquette when ganking a young player in a belt or dunking a newbro that starts a fight with you. He took the time to explain what happened and the steps they can take to avoid it. That is more than you'll get out of most corp thieves/awoxers.
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
1084
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:30:22 -
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We should all be glad that there are people like the New Order Agents out there creating content for all this bored carebears who would otherwise quit. This my friends is what player retention is all about!
Do your part! Kill a newbro today or awox a industrial corp, for they are better of without that corp or mining ship anyway. Show them what EVE is all about, the sandbox and not just mining, the worst minigame in all of gaming.
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Kaarous Aldurald
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec CODE.
13263
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:47:29 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Jenn aSide wrote: "Carebears" think some game mechanics change is going to benefit them, turns out it creates a situation where things get worse. Exhumer buff leads to more miner ganking, introduction of anchor rigs leads to more bumping, freighter low slots leads to more empty freighter ganking, safeties and crimewatch leads to more creative 'can flipping' and such, and a much vaunted friendly fire button leads to much more creative awoxxing.
I've been saying it a lot lately, but it's still true, carebears don't understand it's not game mechanics that's their problem, it's their attitudes. I and people like me avoided all of the bad things they complain about by simply thinking about things and not flying stupid (proving that was all you need to do) and yet they just can't learn from that, they cling to the idea that CCP can make them safe.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=427232&find=unread Just found a lil gem thatll prove this.
Granted that I do have the stomach flu and a sinus infection, but I puked after reading the whole thing.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
967
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:48:29 -
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Hmpf. I 've run out of likes...
Remove insurance.
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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
140
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Posted - 2015.06.02 01:53:06 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: Granted that I do have the stomach flu and a sinus infection, but I puked after reading the whole thing.
Shouldn't have tried reading the whole thing. I could see from the OP it was not going to be palatable. What I did read of it was "FFS - facepalm" material.
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Sibyyl
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
25318
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Posted - 2015.06.02 02:38:40 -
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Ivant Sumboodi wrote:What's lame about the actual email is that it "teaches" noobies to only form corps that demand full APIs. Yeah I know EVE is about healthy paranoia or something blah blah, but basic asset management would solve a lot of problems. Maybe not the problem of wardec intel but noobies can handle small fun corps w/o this sort of rapage happening to them. And the email makes it sound like it's pure inevitability- that is what I find a bit disgusting about it.
I think EVE has always been about providing players enough rope to hang themselves with. Corp security being somewhat of an esoteric thing will open the door to awoxing, theft, and all kinds of nefarious things that add content to the game.
This is why the Awox switch is a bit of a puzzle. It is doubtful that the addition of this feature would correlate to higher player retention, or a large exodus of players from NPC Corps into PC Corps. If anything, not giving players enough rope to hang themselves also ends up removing content.
All our times have come
Here but now they're gone
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Mike Azariah
The Scope Gallente Federation
2802
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Posted - 2015.06.02 02:49:59 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Tau Cabalander wrote:As a self-proclaimed industrialist, but not a carebear, I of course am not fond of CODE. play-style, but I respect their right to exist and have fun in their own way. Shhh... Us non carebear bears are a myth as far as some of our "contemporaries" are concerned. We need a new animal, as 'bears' are tainted. I choose to be known as a "CareBison" from now on.
I got dibs on Care-Cape-Buffalo CCB for short http://www.animalplanet.com/tv-shows/wild-kingdom/about-animals/buffalo-facts/
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Mike Azariah Gö¼GöÇGöÇGö¼n++ ¯|(pâä)/¯
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Buzz Boolean
Bung Cheese Bandits
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 03:31:46 -
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stoicfaux wrote:The only reason I've found to hate CODE is that they're role-players. If they start marrying each other in public weddings in-game, I will positively puke.
I sure hope you are right and that they are actually role playing. I have my doubts as that level of extremism is NOT playful. Nor does it match any role playing I have seen across many RPGs. Their treatise is very similar to the philosophies and practices of the Thrid Reich and ISIS - this bothers me a lot. I'm okay with getting ganked and having the pirate open the cockpit window and urinate on my frozen corpse, but these guys are far beyond self righteousness and well into the realm of extreme doctrines.
Thhe "red ink" thing is definitely harrassement if specific people are targeted for daring to disagree and/or not follow the treatise and/or get pissed if they are ganked via a nasty gram, far more than targets of opportunity invading their claimed space. Also, I don't usually say "gf" to someone who ganks a ship with no weapons and no way to fight back. "gf" is reserved for close contests that may have gone either way, that are a real challenge.
Really, they are saying that "you must play the way we dictate, or we will harass you". I'll bet this is not legal and yet CCP allows it. Hmm. |
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Kaely Tanniss
Glorious Revolutionary Armed Forces of Highsec
421
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Posted - 2015.06.02 03:46:00 -
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Elspeth Tezzeret wrote:Lan Wang wrote:hey, why not stay out of other peoples mails huh, nosey parker No, this has to stop this is not "game play" this is full on griefing, end of story and i have the permission of the person whose mail it is
This IS in fact gameplay..fully sanctioned. When you join Eve, you join a galaxy in turmoil..welcome to Eve.
This is NOT griefing...just because an action in a game brings you grief, (in which case you should probably search yourself for the answer to why a game actually causes you rl emotion) does NOT mean it is griefing. Again, Eve is a game like no other. Backstabbing, theiving, scamming, killing, and corp infiltration are all the order of the day in this game. Adapt or die.
I understand Eve is not everyones kind of game...but for some it is. If the way Eve is played bothers you, you are playing the wrong game. It grows tiring hearing the word "griefed" or "griefing". The definition of the word has been so skewed and is not the same in Eve as it is in other games. It would do you good to read up on Eve and what it's all about. CCP Falcon explained it best.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
11172
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Posted - 2015.06.02 04:29:29 -
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Buzz Boolean wrote:stoicfaux wrote:The only reason I've found to hate CODE is that they're role-players. If they start marrying each other in public weddings in-game, I will positively puke.
I sure hope you are right and that they are actually role playing. I have my doubts as that level of extremism is NOT playful. Nor does it match any role playing I have seen across many RPGs. Their treatise is very similar to the philosophies and practices of the Thrid Reich and ISIS - this bothers me a lot. I'm okay with getting ganked and having the pirate open the cockpit window and urinate on my frozen corpse, but these guys are far beyond self righteousness and well into the realm of extreme doctrines. Thhe "red ink" thing is definitely harrassement if specific people are targeted for daring to disagree and/or not follow the treatise and/or get pissed if they are ganked via a nasty gram, far more than targets of opportunity invading their claimed space. Also, I don't usually say "gf" to someone who ganks a ship with no weapons and no way to fight back. "gf" is reserved for close contests that may have gone either way, that are a real challenge. Really, they are saying that "you must play the way we dictate, or we will harass you". I'll bet this is not legal and yet CCP allows it. Hmm.
Hey CODE, I found yall another customer. He thinks yall should be goose stepping across Poland instead of Ganking people in a video game.
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Christopher Mabata
The Interstellar Manipulation Consortium
356
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Posted - 2015.06.02 04:31:58 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Buzz Boolean wrote:stoicfaux wrote:The only reason I've found to hate CODE is that they're role-players. If they start marrying each other in public weddings in-game, I will positively puke.
I sure hope you are right and that they are actually role playing. I have my doubts as that level of extremism is NOT playful. Nor does it match any role playing I have seen across many RPGs. Their treatise is very similar to the philosophies and practices of the Thrid Reich and ISIS - this bothers me a lot. I'm okay with getting ganked and having the pirate open the cockpit window and urinate on my frozen corpse, but these guys are far beyond self righteousness and well into the realm of extreme doctrines. Thhe "red ink" thing is definitely harrassement if specific people are targeted for daring to disagree and/or not follow the treatise and/or get pissed if they are ganked via a nasty gram, far more than targets of opportunity invading their claimed space. Also, I don't usually say "gf" to someone who ganks a ship with no weapons and no way to fight back. "gf" is reserved for close contests that may have gone either way, that are a real challenge. Really, they are saying that "you must play the way we dictate, or we will harass you". I'll bet this is not legal and yet CCP allows it. Hmm. Hey CODE, I found yall another customer. He thinks yall should be goose stepping across Poland instead of Ganking people in a video game.
Yeesh extreme example there, too soon too soon but it did make me almost spit out my coffee so +1 lol
Theory-Crafter, Free Agent, Immortal Space Pirate. Generally Crazy and difficult to understand at times.
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Ila Dace
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
13016
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Posted - 2015.06.02 04:45:27 -
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Xen Solarus wrote:Everyone knows that CODE are scum. That's just a fact.
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"It's right there in purple crayon!"
If House played Eve: http://i.imgur.com/y7ShT.jpg
But in purple, I'm stunning!
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1750
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Posted - 2015.06.02 05:05:41 -
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So a dying corp was put down and it's members were given good tips on where to go from there... Old Yeller dies in the end. Sorry for the spoiler. No, actually I'm not. I'm assuming this was a troll post to drum up attention, but on the off chance it wasn't... this 'awoker' really did these guys a favor, and politely too.
The real griefer is the OP for interrupting my clown pron with this tripe.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Avaelica Kuershin
Paper Cats
141
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Posted - 2015.06.02 07:35:04 -
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Buzz Boolean wrote:stoicfaux wrote:The only reason I've found to hate CODE is that they're role-players. If they start marrying each other in public weddings in-game, I will positively puke.
I sure hope you are right and that they are actually role playing. I have my doubts as that level of extremism is NOT playful. Nor does it match any role playing I have seen across many RPGs. Their treatise is very similar to the philosophies and practices of the Thrid Reich and ISIS - this bothers me a lot. I'm okay with getting ganked and having the pirate open the cockpit window and urinate on my frozen corpse, but these guys are far beyond self righteousness and well into the realm of extreme doctrines. Really, they are saying that "you must play the way we dictate, or we will harass you". I'll bet this is not legal and yet CCP allows it. Hmm.
Oh how did I miss this gem.
Since when does roleplaying have to be "playful", and I have seen this level of dedication* in roleplayers before. Consider the lore in this game regarding both the empire factions and the pirate factions. There is a reason I went Gallente. To roleplay a loyal Amarrian or Caldari citizen... I'd have trouble. (Diana Kim does a good job)
I am always amused when "legal" gets flung around carelessly, especially in a game.
* or dedication in taking the mickey out of more serious roleplayers. |
Elinarien
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2015.06.02 07:45:30 -
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The whole threat from CODE thing is being massively overstated. If anything the OP is probably just a Code member seeking to give the movement some well-needed publicity. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
1088
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Posted - 2015.06.02 07:45:48 -
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Buzz Boolean wrote:stoicfaux wrote:The only reason I've found to hate CODE is that they're role-players. If they start marrying each other in public weddings in-game, I will positively puke.
I sure hope you are right and that they are actually role playing. I have my doubts as that level of extremism is NOT playful. Nor does it match any role playing I have seen across many RPGs. Their treatise is very similar to the philosophies and practices of the Thrid Reich and ISIS - this bothers me a lot. I'm okay with getting ganked and having the pirate open the cockpit window and urinate on my frozen corpse, but these guys are far beyond self righteousness and well into the realm of extreme doctrines. Thhe "red ink" thing is definitely harrassement if specific people are targeted for daring to disagree and/or not follow the treatise and/or get pissed if they are ganked via a nasty gram, far more than targets of opportunity invading their claimed space. Also, I don't usually say "gf" to someone who ganks a ship with no weapons and no way to fight back. "gf" is reserved for close contests that may have gone either way, that are a real challenge. Really, they are saying that "you must play the way we dictate, or we will harass you". I'll bet this is not legal and yet CCP allows it. Hmm. Oh dear, The Third Reich AND ISIS in one post...
First of all you should probably calm down, you lost that fail fitted Mackinaw over a month ago.
Post like yours show exactly why the New Order is needed. If we leave miners to themselves, posts with tears and complaints like yours would be all there is in Highsec. As we all can see from your tear post, you are not yet ready for the sandbox, your thinking is wrong and needs to be adjusted. I mean what if a innocent child reads your post! Do you not care about the children?!
I am sure if you just give it a chance and do away with this evil thoughts, purchase a mining permit and follow the Code you would become a better miner, a better player for sure and I believe also a better person. Please contact your nearest New Order Agent so we can start with the corrective measures.
Do not rebel, as we are only here to help you! Together we create a better highsec!
the Code ALWAYS wins
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Wendy Valentino
Essence Distribution and Mining
0
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Posted - 2015.06.02 08:07:02 -
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Wow! This really kicked up a stir. If your not careful I will get a big ego. So many opinions on so many sides. This is more than I hoped for. Thanks guys.
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Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
1066
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Posted - 2015.06.02 08:25:14 -
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Buzz Boolean wrote:I'm okay with getting ganked and having the pirate open the cockpit window and urinate on my frozen corpse, but these guys are far beyond self righteousness and well into the realm of extreme doctrines. Yes, extreme doctrines like fitting some tank, not auto-piloting and paying attention to local. What is this game coming to if we can't leave our yield-fit ships unattended in space while we watch Netflix?
Buzz Boolean wrote:Thhe "red ink" thing is definitely harrassement if specific people are targeted for daring to disagree and/or not follow the treatise and/or get pissed if they are ganked via a nasty gram, far more than targets of opportunity invading their claimed space. Sure, it's definitely "harassement" if I set up my POCO's to charge a higher tax to my rivals, or not allow those that do not acknowledge my claim to a space to dock at my outposts. I think CCP should make it mandatory that you treat all players equally, even if they attack you, insult you, are at war with you or actively resist you in the game. Anything less is just griefing.
Buzz Boolean wrote:Also, I don't usually say "gf" to someone who ganks a ship with no weapons and no way to fight back. "gf" is reserved for close contests that may have gone either way, that are a real challenge. Such poor sportsmanship. You know, if a high school basketball team loses by 50 points they are still expected to go out and shake hands with their opponents afterwards. You are entitled to your own views on the matter of course, but denying someone a congratulations for defeating you in a contest or a game is really poor form in most cultures.
Buzz Boolean wrote:Really, they are saying that "you must play the way we dictate, or we will harass you". I'll bet this is not legal and yet CCP allows it. Hmm. The New Order is playing the game as it was originally conceived. They have made a claim to highsec and are out to enforce it so you are suppose to resist and adapt, or claim your own space and defend it. This is not harassment or illegal but actually how New Eden is intended to be. You do not have to play the way the New Order wants - you have much freedom to play the game in many ways, but you are definitely not entitled to play the game in isolation from other players.
Conflict between players is encouraged by CCP and is at the heart of the design of the game.
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Trajan Unknown
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
28
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Posted - 2015.06.02 08:45:09 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Buzz Boolean wrote:I'm okay with getting ganked and having the pirate open the cockpit window and urinate on my frozen corpse, but these guys are far beyond self righteousness and well into the realm of extreme doctrines. Yes, extreme doctrines like fitting some tank, not auto-piloting and paying attention to local. What is this game coming to if we can't leave our yield-fit ships unattended in space while we watch Netflix? Buzz Boolean wrote:Thhe "red ink" thing is definitely harrassement if specific people are targeted for daring to disagree and/or not follow the treatise and/or get pissed if they are ganked via a nasty gram, far more than targets of opportunity invading their claimed space. Sure, it's definitely "harassement" if I set up my POCO's to charge a higher tax to my rivals, or not allow those that do not acknowledge my claim to a space to dock at my outposts. I think CCP should make it mandatory that you treat all players equally, even if they attack you, insult you, are at war with you or actively resist you in the game. Anything less is just griefing. Buzz Boolean wrote:Also, I don't usually say "gf" to someone who ganks a ship with no weapons and no way to fight back. "gf" is reserved for close contests that may have gone either way, that are a real challenge. Such poor sportsmanship. You know, if a high school basketball team loses by 50 points they are still expected to go out and shake hands with their opponents afterwards. You are entitled to your own views on the matter of course, but denying someone a congratulations for defeating you in a contest or a game is really poor form in most cultures. Buzz Boolean wrote:Really, they are saying that "you must play the way we dictate, or we will harass you". I'll bet this is not legal and yet CCP allows it. Hmm. The New Order is playing the game as it was originally conceived. They have made a claim to highsec and are out to enforce it so you are suppose to resist and adapt, or claim your own space and defend it. This is not harassment or illegal but actually how New Eden is intended to be. You do not have to play the way the New Order wants - you have much freedom to play the game in many ways, but you are definitely not entitled to play the game in isolation from other players. Conflict between players is encouraged by CCP and is at the heart of the design of the game.
You just saved me a lot of signs. :)
Nicely pointed out.
Last but not least I-¦d like to add that I am still waiting on a CODE ganking Crew that is trying to gank my other character when hauling stuff. It never happened and I don-¦t know a single person who got successfully ganked by CODE. Hell I even afk mined in High-Sec ~8month ago and never had any trouble. Last but not least I like that we have things like CODE, Marmite, Just4Fun and other organisations like that. They make your life harder and it prevents my hauling from getting dull and boring. Marmite and these other High-Sec mercs rattle the cage that High-Sec is and these low-sec campers like Just4Fun enraging me from time to time and remind me that I should be careful when I hop through gates.
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
716
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Posted - 2015.06.02 08:45:51 -
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Vote for Pedro \o/ he knows
I use to hate code but i kinda understand what they stand for now and actually agree with what they do, if you guys dont take action in defending yourselves you just die and all this carebear crying for nerfs because you cant make lots of isk and watch netflix gets rather boring.
hey how about actually think about things instead of just running in and setting up sh!t corps because you think you are some sort of leader
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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virm pasuul
Viziam Amarr Empire
298
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Posted - 2015.06.02 09:08:08 -
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Looks like the CODE did another great job here. Very useful information to improve the Eve experience to those who didn't know any better. Looks like CCP were right about CODE and the New Order being good for retention of new players. People should be praising CODE and James 315 a lot more for all the hard work they do to make Eve a much better place. Who wants to buy a mining permit off me to say thanks to therm? |
McChicken Combo HalfMayo
The Happy Meal
727
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Posted - 2015.06.02 10:03:58 -
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This one was so obvious too. Shame on all who took the bait.
There are all our dominion
Gate camps: "Its like the lowsec watercooler, just with explosions and boose" - Ralph King-Griffin
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Omar Alharazaad
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
1754
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Posted - 2015.06.02 10:10:34 -
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Shhhh. Industrialists are trying to offload their surplus of pitchforks and torches, you're gonna spoil their game.
Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
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Don Purple
Almost Human.
1247
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Posted - 2015.06.02 10:19:08 -
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Good job wendy.
I am just here to snuggle and do spy stuff.
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2015.06.02 10:22:58 -
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Hmm, the Recruiter should have done a better job, STILL:
CODE. is in fact embarrasing pathetic.
LOL
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2015.06.02 10:24:27 -
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virm pasuul wrote:hard work
Shooting embarrasingly easy targets is "hard work"?
interesting.
"Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted time."
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Zaragram Dorgiers
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2015.06.02 10:26:52 -
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Black Pedro wrote:Such poor sportsmanship. You know, if a high school basketball team loses by 50 points they are still expected to go out and shake hands with their opponents afterwards.
In high school basketball, one team doesn't start out with three times as many players and submachine guns.
You're perfectly free to gank people, and I hope that CODE continues to, but don't be a jerk and expect or demand that they kiss your *** afterwards. You are killing people in onesided fights- Own up to it. Recognize that you are playing the villain and accept the delicious tears and hate that come with it. Asking the nerd whom you have just wedgied to thank you for the pleasure is gross. That's bully behavior and goes above and beyond simply ganking. |
Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
2532
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Posted - 2015.06.02 10:27:14 -
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La Rynx wrote:CODE. is in fact embarrasing pathetic. Can you explain us your feelings about code and why you state it as a fact ?
YOU EITHER LOVE US OR WE HATE YOU - DELETE THE WEAK , ADAPT OR DIE !
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