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Dekiri
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.19 12:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dekiri on 19/12/2006 12:06:24
I really can't see why people are drawing such a bad picture for IAC. The capital ship fleet is not going to be there forever and ISS sure can't pay for MC/KIA forever. I don't see IAC loose balls and bend over anytime soon and i can't see ISS to "win". If ISS really "win" they pretty much ruin their space for months to come, because i would assume that ISS can't police their space versus IAC if IAC start to hit the individual corps assets.
I will be honest, my personal tactic to hit ISS hard would be to target the individual corps within the ISS and not the ISS outposts. The corps assets are to much spread out to defend properly and IAC could pretty much take one (badly setup)POS down after another and **** off the individual corps within ISS, the ISSN and mercenarys or whatever the ISS could field would have no chance to know where they strike next. The ammount of drama within the ISS would be so extreme that this loss would outweight taking down outposts by far. With that strategy they could keep ISS busy and basically bleed them to death(or rather make them poor rather quickly because of either merc costs if the POS dont go down or POS equipment if they manage to kill the POS).
They could exploit the fact that ISS can't afford to waste the mercs time for long and of course the structure in general.
If IAC have enough balls and don't back down ISS is really in trouble...
PS: Have fun my ex-ISSN mates i know you will fight hard even without mercs if they let you =) I am personally rooting for the underdog atm though =p
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KineTiK
ISS Navy Task Force
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Posted - 2006.12.19 12:01:00 -
[62]
i wouldnt write IAC off just yet.
i dont know what theyre up to but so far they havent made any serious effort to beat us up yet. altough F4R is completely locked down, theres alot more IAC in Eve than just that system.
time will tell i guess..whatever happens, im sure it will be fun. atleast for me it has been so far.
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nickycakes
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.19 12:10:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Dekiri Edited by: Dekiri on 19/12/2006 12:01:36 I really can't see why people are drawing such a bad picture for IAC. The capital ship fleet is not going to be there forever and ISS sure can't pay for MC/KIA forever. I don't see IAC loose balls and bend over anytime soon and i can't see ISS to "win". If ISS really "win" they pretty much ruin their space for months to come, because i would assume that ISS can't police their space versus IAC if IAC start to hit the individual corps assets.
I will be honest, my personal tactic to hit ISS hard would be to target the individual corps within the ISS and not the ISS outposts. The corps assets are to much spread out to defend properly and IAC could pretty much take one (badly setup)POS down after another and **** off the individual corps within ISS, the ISSN and mercenarys or whatever the ISS could field would have no chance to know where they strike next. The ammount of drama within the ISS would be so extreme that this loss would outweight taking down outposts by far. With that strategy they could keep ISS busy and basically bleed them to death(or rather make them poor rather quickly because of either merc costs if the POS dont go down or POS equipment if they manage to kill the POS).
They could exploit the fact that ISS can't afford to waste the mercs time for long and of course the structure in general.
If IAC have enough balls and don't back down ISS is really in trouble...
PS: Have fun my ex-ISSN mates i know you will fight hard even without mercs if they let you =)
Funny things start to happen to alliances when their stations start getting jacked. The idea that they will become stronger and return with hearts full of hatred to harass the attackers forever is cute and all, but members start leaving when they have to base out of empire and can easily access 0.0 again by joining another alliance.
Rarely (like the case with RA currently) they are able to hang on, even after losing all but the most dedicated members to become a threat once again. I wouldn't count on it from these guys, though.
Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
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GO MaZ
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.19 12:14:00 -
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Originally by: nickycakes Funny things start to happen to alliances when their stations start getting jacked. The idea that they will become stronger and return with hearts full of hatred to harass the attackers forever is cute and all, but members start leaving when they have to base out of empire and can easily access 0.0 again by joining another alliance.
Rarely (like the case with RA currently) they are able to hang on, even after losing all but the most dedicated members to become a threat once again. I wouldn't count on it from these guys, though.
Thing is, F4 is 6 jumps from empire, there are NPC stations 3 jumps away and ISS themselves dont have a hope in hell of stopping 1500 people from running havoc in their systems
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Dekiri
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2006.12.19 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: Dekiri on 19/12/2006 12:14:29 That is why i said "IF they have the balls" =)
Oh yea.. the territory is in favour of IAC of course=p
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Gutsani
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.19 12:36:00 -
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<meh, was a flame intented to make LV stop shouting "victorious"> I'm sure tyrrax can keep at least a bunch of his guys together if they lose their outposts. To be honest, i would like to see alot of their members leave, seeing how they dont WANT to contribute, the good ones however should and will stay arround.
However, it is sad how it went. I was hoping to see some pew pew, but it all ended up in blob blob. And just for the record, IAC had NO plans to attack any ISS outpost. That i say for sure. Arrogance of some of their members has however made this unclear, sad but happens alot.
Only time can tell, and lets keep it in the current time, and not in some fictional future. ------------------------ Stop reading my siggy! |
Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.19 12:57:00 -
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Originally by: Dekiri Edited by: Dekiri on 19/12/2006 12:06:24
I really can't see why people are drawing such a bad picture for IAC. The capital ship fleet is not going to be there forever and ISS sure can't pay for MC/KIA forever. I don't see IAC loose balls and bend over anytime soon and i can't see ISS to "win". If ISS really "win" they pretty much ruin their space for months to come, because i would assume that ISS can't police their space versus IAC if IAC start to hit the individual corps assets.
IAC are a mainly industrial alliance. Their leadership brought them into this war.
I do not doubt that some within IAC will want to continue the fight, but without a base 1 jump from ISS space, and without their industrial corporations which make up the vast majority of their numbers hanging around nearby, I honestly can't see it being a problem.
ISS have lived with raiding parties into its space since the very beginning, against foes far scarier than IAC. Its a part of life in 0.0. To claim this will somehow bring us to our knees is just silly. Its what we do, day in, day out.
You are right - the Capital Ship fleet won't be around forever, and it doesnt need to be. Its there to do a very specific job.
We all know what happens when people raid ISS space. They can't dock. They are deprived of targets. They get bored. They move on. Its human nature, you can't force people in your corporation to do something very dull forever, without any objective other than 'annoy ISS'. We know from over a year of experience managing outposts that is not realistic. The most that happens are occasional raids.
And, for the record, ISS are not paying KIA. Nor are we paying FIX, LV, UK, or TYC. They have their own reasons for being there.
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Cythrawl
Caldari Central Defiance Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.12.19 14:49:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Butter Dog
And, for the record, ISS are not paying KIA. Nor are we paying FIX, LV, UK, or TYC. They have their own reasons for being there.
I in no way speak for Ushra'khan, but...
During the 9UY war in which UK held Unity Station for two months against hostile forces, ISS was there. Granted, ISS has reasons besides just friendship with UK to help hold the space. But you earn the respect of those around you by playing fair with everyone, and doing what is morally sound judgement for the furthering of yourself and your goals. That's why you see so many pilots on the side of ISS that aren't being paid to be there.
All I hear are people screaming about ISS being some big terror in space. Half of those posts come from people either envious or spiteful of the success ISS has managed to create through their own unique brand of interaction with all their 0.0 neighbors and customers. How long have they been in business? How often has ISS had their ranks decimated? Has anyone managed to stop them from their goals?
If you want my two cents on the matter though, IAC decided it was time to make a name for themselves above and beyond what they'd already accomplished. Taking a shot at the most 'pedestrian'(sarcasm, enjoy) of alliances was the key they thought they could turn to open that door. ISS are indifferent to the conflicts around them, as long as it has nothing to do with their assets' security. But prod them, and you wake the beast, who isn't afraid to use what it has to secure itself.
Just because they buy MC's help doesn't mean they're weak in no sense. They just know that Seleene's cadre of capital pilots is THE most elite and disciplined group of pilots I've ever seen in action. MC gets paid very well because they do what they do very well. Results are gotten and that makes ISS happy. How many POS have been dealt with?
All that needs be to finish this would be for IAC to make amends to ISS over their provocation and I think that the matter would be well and done with. Otherwise IAC is going to suffer an extreme amount of funds damage that, in the end, may be the nails in their coffin lid.
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Kaylana Syi
Minmatar The Nest Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.19 15:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 19/12/2006 15:08:30
Originally by: Cythrawl rubbish and banter
You call yourselve's freedom fighters. You call IAC allied with the enemy. You call ISS 'your friends' and you ally with someone named "The Enslaver."
You have to be the poorest excuse for minmatar alliance I have ever seen. We'll be seeing you soon.
Team Minmatar Carriers need Clone Vats
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.19 15:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 19/12/2006 15:08:30
Originally by: Cythrawl rubbish and banter
You call yourselve's freedom fighters. You call IAC allied with the enemy. You call ISS 'your friends' and you ally with someone named "The Enslaver."
You have to be the poorest excuse for minmatar alliance I have ever seen. We'll be seeing you soon.
Weak.
I mean, are you trying to say that U'K should refrain from attacking a close ally of CVA and help out the people that saved their outpost in Providence because it means they'll have to fight alongside an alliance in which one of the diplomats have a controversial nickname?
Get real, this is politics, not schoolyard arguments. -----
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Cythrawl
Caldari Central Defiance Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.12.19 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kaylana Syi Edited by: Kaylana Syi on 19/12/2006 15:08:30
Originally by: Cythrawl rubbish and banter
You call yourselve's freedom fighters. You call IAC allied with the enemy. You call ISS 'your friends' and you ally with someone named "The Enslaver."
You have to be the poorest excuse for minmatar alliance I have ever seen. We'll be seeing you soon.
First off, nice to put the words rubbish and banter into my mouth. That seems to be very big of you. I'm sure more people will agree with you as well, but style points to you.
Secondly though, war makes for strange bedfellows and just because The Enslaver is involved in the war doesn't exactly mean that Ushra'Khan are screaming the praises of Lotka Volterra and throwing their brothers and sisters to slavers over it. You seem to think that everything Ushra'Khan does is driven by their hatred of slavery. There you would be extremely wrong.
Thirdly, you might notice I'm Caldari. I have a distaste for slavery, but that's not the only thing that makes up a man. Many amongst the Ushra'Khan are not Minmatar. If you were aware enough to do your research, it invites all those who are freedom fighters, not just one race. There are more things to being UK than just your willingness to engage slavers in war.
Finally, never once did I make mention of IAC being 'allied with the enemy' at any time. You assume too much if you think I was implying such. ISS are our comrades due to our securing of Upper Providence for the commerce of free peoples. We've fought for each other. You apparently missed a great deal of the Pirate War or were completely oblivious to what was going on there.
Again, this is in no way representative of the entirety of UK, just my personal outlook as a semi-partisan. I've been too busy to involve myself in the fighting with IAC.
Oh, and P.S. If you're bitter that you're in dire straights, you have no-one to blame but yourselves. You knew what you were getting into in the first place.
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Raem Civrie
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.19 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog IAC are a mainly industrial alliance. Their leadership brought them into this war.
Hi. You're making assumptions again.
Every alliance is industrial. Every alliance has a carebear portion to it. Even the hardcore ones (hell, ESPECIALLY the hardcore ones) like BoB and MC.
The change over the past months that IAC has been experiencing is that the average member has been growing far more militant, in response to then rapid meltdown of the south. First the MC invasion, then we went back to focusing on mopping up the neighborhood in a continuing effort to further secure Catch. Our fleets have been seeing fresh faces, faces previously content with just mining bistot.
Also, a good majority of IAC wanted this. There is a reason we say that IAC didn't declare war, as much as just unleash the swarm. That's it. We set you to -10 and let our guys go wild.
The guys that threw their arms into the air, screaming in joy over the ensuing pew-pew?
Those were our miners. ----
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Felix Dzerzhinsky
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Posted - 2006.12.19 15:48:00 -
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UK was an RP corp, that droped their RP fascade to play 0.0 politics and sometimes plays RP for kicks. To call UK a 'Minmatar RP alliance' would have been correct a year ago. Today UK is simply another 0.0 alliance and shares the same fears and asperirations. There is nothing wrong with not being RP untill you try to play both sides.
As for this ISS/IAC mess. I think it was about time ISS flexed its muscles and gave a good slap across IAC's face. From what I read, the high level discussions were not handeled in a very mature way by the IAC reprisentatives whereas ISS was very serious about defining the scope of the war. I found it funney too that this all started with a rumor, that grew into a conspiracy theory, then an arms buildup, then a conversation, and now a no holds barred clensing of IAC from the region. . . ISS will win the war, the question now is, what will the conditions for surrender be?
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Toman Torax
Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.19 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky utter rubbish
Post with your main.
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nickky01
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.19 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Felix Dzerzhinsky I think it was about time ISS flexed its wallet and gave a good slap across IAC's face.
fixed.
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USN CVN72
Caldari Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2006.12.19 16:31:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Avernus
Originally by: USN CVN72
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: USN CVN72 Fix likes to deal with entities that are stable... Hmm thats funny... only thing that is constant in this game is that fix crys like a baby without formula when they dont get thier way...
sorry Avernus... u try to make fix look like a serious mature alliance but in fact fix are more than ever content with carebearing and crying to daddy when the free milk has run out!!!...
my2cents on u guys especially this past year!!!...
USN
How's Stain these days?
Take the mickey out of FIX all you like, they haven't had to move because of their shortcomings, unlike you lot.
Only because u save them time and time again... Fix is ur pets!!! yes i said it and yes u know it Fix are your slaves... they do what ever u want them too and u know its that simple... im proud to have left fix a long time ago cause i would be embarressed to fly for fix today knowing bob is empowering over them like masters...
USN
I wouldn't say that I'm proud you left my corp, and left FIX... but I'd be lying if I said there wasn't a certain amount of relief at this stage.
I've given you a heck of a lot of leeway for well over a year now when it comes to your statements against FIX. Tough ****, get over it. You got screwed because somebody thought you were a spy. I'll tell you this, it was damn hard defending you and your name with all the crap you caused on a regular basis. You loved FIX and FIX kicked you to the curb.
Get over it.
Oh poor Avernus acting like a true Master of the puppets. You truely have no clue why i continue to smack Fix Alliance. You are blinded by your own greed and false sense of security. Avernus wake up old man - clear your eyes from the thick cloud that has blinded you. I have a mission a mission that includes the destruction of fix alliance. Beware Avernus this is the only clue i will give you...
USN
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corporal hicks
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.19 16:34:00 -
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Calling Avernus greedy, I have seen it all
Ave must be one of the most selfless people that play this game.
" Stay Frosty "
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Hani EQ
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.19 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: USN CVN72 Oh poor Avernus acting like a true Master of the puppets. You truely have no clue why i continue to smack Fix Alliance. You are blinded by your own greed and false sense of security. Avernus wake up old man - clear your eyes from the thick cloud that has blinded you. I have a mission a mission that includes the destruction of fix alliance. Beware Avernus this is the only clue i will give you...
USN
How dare you falsely acuse our glorious leader of greed. I'm now going to hold a personal grudge against you for.. erm.. at least two years.
Seriously though dude, get over your exit from fix. Lie back on the couch, listen to your shrink and whip out the Tony Robbins tapes... yes.. that's right.. it's ok to feel good about yourself again.. you are a valuable person. Let the grudges go m8, it's almost christmas. If that doesn't work eat more fibre.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.19 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: corporal hicks Calling Avernus greedy, I have seen it all
Ave must be one of the most selfless people that play this game.
Correct, I am greedy, not Avernus.
Ignore USN CVN72, he lives in his own world
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Caillech
Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.12.19 17:10:00 -
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The trolling on all of these threads is off the charts. You people are crazy and make the baby Jesus cry.
U'K is involved to return the favor. It has little to nothing to do with CVA or our war on slavery and the Amarrians. But if you want to look at IC justification, let me get my RP game face on:
ISS' very charter is about promoting commercial and individual freedom in 0.0, and they directly helped preserve the freedom of our people when 9UY was under siege. Would we abandon them like some gutless, *****son Amarr holder's precious piety when it comes time to satisfy his carnal urges with another Minmatar boy? Or must we rise as Brother Shakor has urged us?
So there you go. Plenty of IC justification.
We would prefer to get back to our little war with CVA, but our hand was forced here. As for our 0.0 presence, the game mechanics have pretty much forced us out here until faction warfare gets anywhere close to serious.
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Gomez Chou
Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.19 17:19:00 -
[81]
Back when I was in a small RP corp scratching out a living in catch, I accidentally purchased something at an IAC station. I spent the next 4 hours requesting and securing docking permission at one of their stations, eventually recieving word that we were classed as neutrals, and that we were free to dock.
When I arrived at the bottleshop, there was a 30 man af/inty fleet waiting for me, who needless to say made short work of my ratting ship. For my part, I'm more than happy to lend a hand at kicking the everloving **** out of a group of people who are the diplomatic equivalent of an epileptic 3 year old with ADHD and a head full of acid, and I'm sure I'm not the only one.
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HatePeace LoveWar
Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS
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Posted - 2006.12.19 17:28:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Necronomicon MC and Co are in their home systemz killing their posz
But KIA are in their mission systemz stealing their lootz
You guys are like... heroes or something.
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Kinsy
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2006.12.19 17:37:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: corporal hicks Calling Avernus greedy, I have seen it all
Ave must be one of the most selfless people that play this game.
Correct, I am greedy, not Avernus.
Ignore USN CVN72, he lives in his own world
A world full of Bhaalgorns with 8 stabs?
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Derran
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2006.12.19 18:28:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Necronomicon
I can only see a long term run of bad blood between IAC and ISS if this drags on. I love the pew pew as much as anyone, but really, why dont IAC just stand down?
Pride, maybe?
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Gariuys
Evil Strangers Inc.
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Posted - 2006.12.19 18:49:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Avernus I do wonder sometimes about all the conjecture around ISS.
For myself, looking from the outside in, things seem very straight forward. I have no vested emotion towards ISS, meaning that I'm not at war with them, and nor are they attacking someone with whom I am allied. I also don't personally have any ISS shares which could slant my perspective on things.
For the record, I have had prior dealings with ISS a number of times, starting shortly after their inception when they were seeking 0.0 space in which to place POS.
ISS is a business interest.
Unlike most alliances, decisions aren't heavily based upon who they particularily like or dislike, instead decisions are based upon seeking out entities with which they can further their own goals, benefiting themselves and those whom they associate with.
Regular alliances, will look at a foe, and it doesn't matter if they are honourable, stable, strong... or the exact opposite. If you don't like them, you shoot them. With ISS, it's dead simple, if you don't shoot them or cause problems, you can do business with them. Heck, I've seen it where you can shoot them a bit, and still do business with them. Ofc, that could have been a standings mess up, but when FIX actually shot at ISS on a fairly regular basis, most of our guys could still dock, buy a ship and mods, and move along. (It would cost us a bit extra to dock though in many cases)
Politics has very little to do with how ISS operates. They may make deals with a political entity, but it is based upon business decisions.
Throwing up the example of IAC as any sort of proof that ISS isn't neutral, is simply bizzare. Everyone has read the conversation that happened between Tyrrax and Count by this point; IAC made open ended statements, leaving the question as to wether ISS stations and POS would come under attack. Count responded with what I would consider an unmistakably serious tone in his asking for verification on IAC intentions in that area, and stated that it would absolutely effect the manner in which ISS responds.
Now, not too many people in Eve get to play around with diplomacy on that sort of level... but you have to be a complete moron not to put two and two together, and figure out what the reprisal would consist of if ISS believed that their stations may be at risk.
The stations are a primary source of consistent income for ISS; if you screw with the foundations of their business, it would be incredibly short sighted not to consider that they would pull out all the stops as a means of protecting their interests.
You don't screw around when you're in alliance level talks. I can appreciate that IAC just wanted some good old pew pew, nothing wrong with that; but when the guy at the other end of the table asks you up front what your intentions are, and tells you that your answer will decide the tone of the coming conflict... who the hell says maybe when they have no such intention of following through on a POS war?
FIX likes to work with entities that are stable. When it comes to IAC, I honestly don't know which way they will jump from day to day; while entertaining, it doesn't make for a stable neighbour. On a personal level, there a lots of great people in IAC, but when your leaders take you in different directions every fortnight, creating and developing ties is a waste of time for everyone involved.
Perhaps IAC never wanted anything to do with a full out war. Next time... say so.
Damn nice post. ;-D
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Krall Amarr
Legio Nova Invicta Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.19 19:45:00 -
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why write about iac? is useless iac is no more.
all his station is camped, 24/24
is only question of pos time :)
LV is the major presence (i think) 150 +pilots 60%+ on bs
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Smoking Mirror
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Posted - 2006.12.19 19:58:00 -
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How about this as a solution?
ISS and IAC merge. ISS takes IAC outposts public, IAC pilots get an equity stake in the stations, use rights, and make a committment to defend IAC/ISS interests. IAC corps that do not wish to join but are willing to take a settlement can get paid in stock and leave peacefully for greener pastures further afield.
Fundamentally, the two organizations have a lot in common, recent disagreements notwithstanding.
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Krall Amarr
Legio Nova Invicta Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:01:00 -
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they help ours enemy,
there is no other solution, only the death.
no more iac is solution
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Toman Torax
Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:04:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Smoking Mirror How about this as a solution?
ISS and IAC merge. ISS takes IAC outposts public, IAC pilots get an equity stake in the stations, use rights, and make a committment to defend IAC/ISS interests. IAC corps that do not wish to join but are willing to take a settlement can get paid in stock and leave peacefully for greener pastures further afield.
Fundamentally, the two organizations have a lot in common, recent disagreements notwithstanding.
It's too late... haven't ya heard? IAC is no more! Just ask Krall
I just love all these premature stories of IAC's untimely demise.
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Toman Torax
Dark Blade Incorporated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.19 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Krall Amarr no more iac is solution
Good luck with that.
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