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Smith
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.12.20 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer
Originally by: Smith
Originally by: Nhaz If IAC goes belly up. Who am i going to sell all my ravens too?
Great customers. would be a shame to see them go..
Its okay. You can leave them in Station and trade them to me once we have conquered your stations. We should be there to collect Fall 2007...maybe sooner. I expect lots of Ravens!!
Didn't you get the memo? We quit using those when they nerfed the dual mwd.
Not when you have BoBhaxMWDx2 Modules.
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maGz
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.20 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: patteSatan
Originally by: Bach
Originally by: Butter Dog
And, for the record, ISS are not paying KIA. Nor are we paying FIX, LV, UK, or TYC. They have their own reasons for being there.
TYC are not being paid by ISS. Though there are rumors circulating that we have decided to become a merc corp these are not true at this time.
The only comments on the situation I can make are that TYC like a good 0.0 style offensive fight. We've shot everyone on all sides of this conflict at one time or another and don't hold ill will towards any parties. ISS have always respected TYC. We've had good and honorable dealings with both Count Tessassine and Butter Dog. With nothing better to do at the moment, as we see assisting ISS as an honorable thing to do, so we decided to join this fight to defend the ISS.
You wouldnt know what honorable is, even if it fell in your so-called head.
QFT. It's funny to see how TYC continously try to gain a rep for themselves, but all they do is get more people laughing at them. ____________
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Verone
Veto.
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Posted - 2006.12.20 11:49:00 -
[123]
VETO FOR HIRE
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Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 12:39:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 20/12/2006 12:41:37
Originally by: Kaylana Syi
Originally by: Supay I look forward to future fights guys and hope you wise up to your leader's deception before things go too far.
Coming from ISS that is about as ironic as it gets.
Ironic, how? ISS leadership, unlike IAC's, isn't telling blatant lies to its members to cover up the mess they have dragged the Alliance into. The amount of hangar clearouts in your stations speaks for itself.
But its okay IAC, take down those hangar clearouts, Goons have come to the rescue. (excuse the raw nature of that footage, its only a few hours old, I hope Shanda won't mind me posting it :p).
Seriously though, I like IAC. I have a personal history of fighting alongside some of your members, and happy memories from doing so. But you dragged yourself into this mess, and for that I have no sympathy.
------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
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spoon2
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: spoon2 on 20/12/2006 13:02:00 I'm quite surprised reading some of the comments about IAC going to lose this conflict due to everyone being on ISS's side.
In my experience from being in MC during thier contract against IAC, I found IAC to be a pretty good oponent. More importantly that had many many friends and outnumbered us most of the time 3-1. I dont really think the ISS side will have large superior numbers if any superiority at all.
Id imagine its going to be lots of fun in the Curse,Catch and Providence regions while the conflict lasts.
Seeing as we shoot everyone, ill just wish you all fun.
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Silvestri
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:07:00 -
[126]
All I can say from this conflict is..... and wtf...
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Butter Dog
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: spoon2
In my experience from being in MC during thier contract against IAC, I found IAC to be a pretty good oponent. More importantly that had many many friends and outnumbered us most of the time 3-1. I dont really think the ISS side will have large superior numbers if any superiority at all.
I guess you havent been reading the thread before posting.
Can't say I blame you, but you are wrong in the above statement.
------------- Be a part of EVE history - The 500bn ISS IPO.
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spoon2
Slacker Industries
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Posted - 2006.12.20 13:23:00 -
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Edited by: spoon2 on 20/12/2006 13:36:01 Edited by: spoon2 on 20/12/2006 13:27:54 Edited by: spoon2 on 20/12/2006 13:23:16
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: spoon2
In my experience from being in MC during thier contract against IAC, I found IAC to be a pretty good oponent. More importantly that had many many friends and outnumbered us most of the time 3-1. I dont really think the ISS side will have large superior numbers if any superiority at all.
I guess you havent been reading the thread before posting.
Can't say I blame you, but you are wrong in the above statement.
Maybe your right, I doubt it though and it you manage to take thier outposts I cant see you guys holding them after the mercs contracts finish. When I in IAC space last time it was lots of fun so enjoy it and GL CONIN.
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D'onryu Shoqui
Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:01:00 -
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Quote: But its okay IAC, take down those hangar clearouts, Goons have come to the rescue. (excuse the raw nature of that footage, its only a few hours old, I hope Shanda won't mind me posting it :p).
wasnt just goon :( you guys didnt apear to have the lag we did :( i killed a crow then the node seemed to take a dump , even the crow killmail is dated 4minutes before it actually poped on my screen. everything else i tried to lock had the locking icon but the countdown never started. i even tried to jump out knowing my agression timer would have droped but the gate didnt respond :( i eventually died a slow death for the game never to load my pod , i just sat there with 2% armor 0%struc for 5minutes with half my modules gone until i reloged and i was next door in a pod, guess that gate had let me jump after all but not till i lost my ship.
ahh well im sure ill get reimbursaed as will everyone else who flew anything worth petioning, i normally wouldnt bother but when you dont even get to fight back ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own. |
nickky01
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:04:00 -
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Originally by: spoon2 Edited by: spoon2 on 20/12/2006 13:02:00 I'm quite surprised reading some of the comments about IAC going to lose this conflict due to everyone being on ISS's side.
In my experience from being in MC during thier contract against IAC, I found IAC to be a pretty good oponent. More importantly that had many many friends and outnumbered us most of the time 3-1. I dont really think the ISS side will have large superior numbers if any superiority at all.
Id imagine its going to be lots of fun in the Curse,Catch and Providence regions while the conflict lasts.
Seeing as we shoot everyone, ill just wish you all fun.
IMO (thats opinion, not a fact, not a flame...just an opinion) IAC would probably have been able to deal with MC/FIX/ISS/Veto.
when LV jumped in...i think thats when the tables turned...not just because of the titan (sure is purty) but because LV has a HUGE capitol fleet, they've been fighting with it for a long time, and they can bring a huge support fleet to back it up.
but i do agree with you...curse/catch/kinda providence will be fun for the next few weeks
the south > the north by far
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Silvestri
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:11:00 -
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Round 1 - F4 goes to you....now it'll get fun....
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CJ70
Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Silvestri Round 1 - F4 goes to you....now it'll get fun....
It will?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: nickky01 the south > the north by far
QFT!
Its much more fun being in a region where everyone has enemies.
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Wierd Beard
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.20 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: Saucerhead Stop 'fixing' each other quotes and flaming each other guys, or i will *fix* your posting privileges, capiche?
Mmmmmmm. FIX
Subliminal advertising ftw!
(note: There was absolutely no 'fixing' of the post other than the normal amount of FIX that goes into my standard post.)
Sorry man. You made it too easy.
But on topic. As in the past. I have to give IAC props. Any time we've faced off against them on the opposite side of a gun, they've been an opponent I'm proud to shoot at. If you up the ante, they pull a stack of chips out of their nether regions and re-raise you. They play hard, win or lose.
That makes for some good games.
Play well.
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shanda captison
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui
Quote: But its okay IAC, take down those hangar clearouts, Goons have come to the rescue. (excuse the raw nature of that footage, its only a few hours old, I hope Shanda won't mind me posting it :p).
wasnt just goon :( you guys didnt apear to have the lag we did :( i killed a crow then the node seemed to take a dump , even the crow killmail is dated 4minutes before it actually poped on my screen. everything else i tried to lock had the locking icon but the countdown never started. i even tried to jump out knowing my agression timer would have droped but the gate didnt respond :( i eventually died a slow death for the game never to load my pod , i just sat there with 2% armor 0%struc for 5minutes with half my modules gone until i reloged and i was next door in a pod, guess that gate had let me jump after all but not till i lost my ship.
ahh well im sure ill get reimbursaed as will everyone else who flew anything worth petioning, i normally wouldnt bother but when you dont even get to fight back
Im sorry to hear that.
Some of us had been waiting hours for you to come in so we were more than happy to see you!
Lag wasnt too bad for us. About 50% of targets called didnt appear on my overview buts thats an improvement on normal, we did have quite a few people whos screen just froze and didnt come back till we d taken the field but thats to be expected.
Gf fight, keep it coming.
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Youlla
Caldari ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: shanda captison
Lag wasnt too bad for us. About 50% of targets called didnt appear on my overview buts thats an improvement on normal, we did have quite a few people whos screen just froze and didnt come back till we d taken the field but thats to be expected.
Gf fight, keep it coming.
I was one of those who's game didn't come back until after the field was more or less cleared. I saw a few hostiles, but was never able to get a lock. I somehow escaped with my ship in tact though.
Fun fighting overall though.
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Omeega
Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2006.12.20 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: nickky01 the south > the north by far
QFT!
Its much more fun being in a region where everyone has enemies.
try realy having your assets in the middle of enemy territory :)
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Helplessandlost
Minmatar Convergent Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.12.20 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Silvestri Round 1 - F4 goes to you....now it'll get fun....
Promise?
"Don't take life too seriously, nobody gets out alive!"
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Tribunal
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Helplessandlost
Originally by: Silvestri Round 1 - F4 goes to you....now it'll get fun....
Promise?
For FIX with nothing to lose in this? Probably. For ISS? No.
If ISS (+ the overkill force) does manage to take every IAC outpost then ISS gets to deal with ~500-1000 ****ed off IAC members, based in NPC stations right next door, for the next 6 months to a year. Going to be kinda hard to make a profit when: shipping lanes are constantly being camped, miners can't mine, NPCers can't NPC... etc.
"We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers |
Hans Roaming
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.12.20 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Tribunal
Originally by: Helplessandlost
Originally by: Silvestri Round 1 - F4 goes to you....now it'll get fun....
Promise?
For FIX with nothing to lose in this? Probably. For ISS? No.
If ISS (+ the overkill force) does manage to take every IAC outpost then ISS gets to deal with ~500-1000 ****ed off IAC members, based in NPC stations right next door, for the next 6 months to a year. Going to be kinda hard to make a profit when: shipping lanes are constantly being camped, miners can't mine, NPCers can't NPC... etc.
The alternative for ISS if they don't take the IACs stations is ~500-1000 ****ed off IAC members, based in 0.0 stations right next door, for the next six months to a year, where their miners can mine and their NPCers can NPC thus boosting IACs war machine. Also maybe some of those ~500-1000 IAC members will not want to continue following the leaders that initiated this conflict.
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nickycakes
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.20 18:58:00 -
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Originally by: Tribunal If ISS (+ the overkill force) does manage to take every IAC outpost then ISS gets to deal with ~500-1000 ****ed off IAC members, based in NPC stations right next door, for the next 6 months to a year. Going to be kinda hard to make a profit when: shipping lanes are constantly being camped, miners can't mine, NPCers can't NPC... etc.
Do you really think your membership will last when the outposts are gone? You think 500-1000 people will move into npc stations and continue to fight? I hear some are already moving assets to empire, and I don't blame them.
Rarely Outnumbered, Usually Outgunned, Never Outsmacked
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Tribunal
FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming The alternative for ISS if they don't take the IACs stations is ~500-1000 ****ed off IAC members, based in 0.0 stations right next door, for the next six months to a year, where their miners can mine and their NPCers can NPC thus boosting IACs war machine. Also maybe some of those ~500-1000 IAC members will not want to continue following the leaders that initiated this conflict.
There are times that friends get upset with one another, which can sometimes lead to physical violence, but most of the time they are back to being good friends a few weeks later. If a friend comes and steals your home then I guarantee that that person will never be your friend again, and the grudge that will form will be long lasting.
500-1000 people is counting a portion of the alliance bailing out.
"We can't all be heroes, because somebody has to sit on the curb and applaud when they go by." - Will Rogers |
Heldane
Amarr 1st Praetorian Guard Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2006.12.20 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: Tribunal If ISS (+ the overkill force) does manage to take every IAC outpost then ISS gets to deal with ~500-1000 ****ed off IAC members, based in NPC stations right next door, for the next 6 months to a year. Going to be kinda hard to make a profit when: shipping lanes are constantly being camped, miners can't mine, NPCers can't NPC... etc.
Do you really think your membership will last when the outposts are gone? You think 500-1000 people will move into npc stations and continue to fight? I hear some are already moving assets to empire, and I don't blame them.
Isn't that what -V- is going to do? If they can do it I'm sure IAC can.
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nickycakes
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.20 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Heldane
Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: Tribunal If ISS (+ the overkill force) does manage to take every IAC outpost then ISS gets to deal with ~500-1000 ****ed off IAC members, based in NPC stations right next door, for the next 6 months to a year. Going to be kinda hard to make a profit when: shipping lanes are constantly being camped, miners can't mine, NPCers can't NPC... etc.
Do you really think your membership will last when the outposts are gone? You think 500-1000 people will move into npc stations and continue to fight? I hear some are already moving assets to empire, and I don't blame them.
Isn't that what -V- is going to do? If they can do it I'm sure IAC can.
V isn't a mostly carebear alliance with a majority of young-ish members. Next
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maGz
The Priory Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2006.12.20 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: Tribunal If ISS (+ the overkill force) does manage to take every IAC outpost then ISS gets to deal with ~500-1000 ****ed off IAC members, based in NPC stations right next door, for the next 6 months to a year. Going to be kinda hard to make a profit when: shipping lanes are constantly being camped, miners can't mine, NPCers can't NPC... etc.
Do you really think your membership will last when the outposts are gone? You think 500-1000 people will move into npc stations and continue to fight? I hear some are already moving assets to empire, and I don't blame them.
I think any alliance, losing stations, would lose members. Every single alliance in this game has freeloaders who is just in it for the isk. Obviously IAC will lose members, but I'd like to know why you think IAC as an entity will cease to exist if they lose their stations? ____________
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nickycakes
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.20 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: maGz EDIT: And above statement shows how little you know about IAC. You shouldn't be making claims about the pending death of IAC when you obviously have no clue.
Oh, but I do.
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Reborn Dragon
Gallente Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2006.12.20 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: nickycakes
Originally by: Tribunal If ISS (+ the overkill force) does manage to take every IAC outpost then ISS gets to deal with ~500-1000 ****ed off IAC members, based in NPC stations right next door, for the next 6 months to a year. Going to be kinda hard to make a profit when: shipping lanes are constantly being camped, miners can't mine, NPCers can't NPC... etc.
Do you really think your membership will last when the outposts are gone? You think 500-1000 people will move into npc stations and continue to fight? I hear some are already moving assets to empire, and I don't blame them.
Well I certainly ain't going anywhere. I really don't care if I have POS's to go to or not. I have too many alts to care whether one is being station camped or system camped. I have fun mining, ratting, and pewpew'ing, and I have the most fun doing it in IAC.
Don't think for one second that IAC will curl up and die if they lose their POS's and stations in the conflict area.
In my opinion, ISS will lose way more money in the long run. They can't hire MC forever and I doubt their overkill force will be with them for long after the system(s) have been taken and I am sure a lot of IAC have made their list of those that came to help ISS for 'mutual benefits'.
These are my opinions and do not reflect those of my corporation/alliance.
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Plymer Ization
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.20 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Vision
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Emrod
Every alliance in Eve know now that you ISS are a not the neutral alliance you always claim to be!
ISS don't claim to be neutral, we simply claim not to be driven by politics, and not to shoot unless we are shot at.
IAC started the war, not us.
Mr. Butter Dog,
as you rightly say "ISS don't claim to be neutral". May I add: not anymore
This quote from Count TaSessine may or may not sound familiar to you: "The ISS is aimed at small and medium sized corporations (empire corporations), that wish to relocate to 0,0 space and begin starbase operations there. Strict neutrality is a pre-requisite for this to work, as is the payment of taxes and rent to our hosts."
While I have the highest of respect for ISS, the current actions are in fact contradictory to the statement of Count TaSessine quoted above.
Best regards, VV
Contradictory to the old charter, yes. The newly revised one, no. Please check the date of your quote and you'll see it is from 14 months ago.
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Plymer Ization
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2006.12.20 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Tribunal
Originally by: Hans Roaming The alternative for ISS if they don't take the IACs stations is ~500-1000 ****ed off IAC members, based in 0.0 stations right next door, for the next six months to a year, where their miners can mine and their NPCers can NPC thus boosting IACs war machine. Also maybe some of those ~500-1000 IAC members will not want to continue following the leaders that initiated this conflict.
There are times that friends get upset with one another, which can sometimes lead to physical violence, but most of the time they are back to being good friends a few weeks later. If a friend comes and steals your home then I guarantee that that person will never be your friend again, and the grudge that will form will be long lasting.
500-1000 people is counting a portion of the alliance bailing out.
What makes what ISS is DOING any different from what IAC "suggested" they might do?
IAC leadership made vague threats of taking ISS stations, and you want to believe that there would be no bad blood unless ISS took IAC stations? IAC leaders have created the grudge, when ISS did not want or need one. You can thank them for that later. Whatever the outcome of this is, it was inevitable that grudges would be made, regardless of who sieged who first. Don't try and spin it any other way.
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cflux
Caldari FinFleet Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.12.20 20:14:00 -
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Who gives a crap what they do, safety of the ISS moneymakers is everything what is in line here. I, you, the rest saw the convo between IAC and ISS regarding this war. POS's warfare was not ruled out, what directly lead into ISS counter offensive by calling local alliances who have large memberbase of shareholders in them.
If Tyraxx was unable to do 1+1+1+1 = 4 calculation when he decided not to rule out POS warfare on that critical convo, what did you people expect ISS to do? Play dead?
As a foot trooper of LV, all I care about is those stations in ISS hands until IAC comes to their senses. After that, if they launch dread siege on ISS, now that we are prepared and have a local POS to operate from, we don't live that far away to kill them before they enter second siege cycle. I wonder does IAC even have enough dreads to take a large POS down without multiple cycles, my guess would be no ******* chance.
Politically, as a regular LV member, this war means nothing, looks like pure ISK stuff, ISS wanting to protect their income and that is fine by me. What happens to IAC, do they try some guerrilla tactics from Curse or whatever, dosn't intrest me one bit. Ganksquads don't hurt ISS incomes, shooting their POS's do.
Someone to blame for this war? Look at Tyraxx, ofcourse he is prolly doign Cyvoks right about now, blaming everyone else and Eve community for his own mistakes. --
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