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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
937
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Posted - 2016.02.16 19:52:33 -
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So combat refitting is getting removed but you can still refit if you have no weapons timer which means that your engagement can go south because your opponent brings in a nestor and refits to 8 stabs which you sadly can't counter by refitting your ship to 4 scrams (because surprise surprise, weapons timer!)
CCP can you please make it so that the receiver of aggro can't refit to WCS while being tackled? There should be no free GTFO tickets. Highsec 1v1 exists.
Yeah bowheads and orcas and storing ship, I get it but that's extremely easy to counter by bumping the target and bowhead/orca apart whereas you can't really keep a nestor and an enemy ship apart.
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4236
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Posted - 2016.02.16 19:56:28 -
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To be fair, if you can't deal with your 1v1 opponent in a minute without any return fire, you don't really deserve the kill. |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
937
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Posted - 2016.02.16 19:57:34 -
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Danika Princip wrote:To be fair, if you can't deal with your 1v1 opponent in a minute without any return fire, you don't really deserve the kill. What are marauders.
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4236
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Posted - 2016.02.16 19:59:14 -
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Why are you trying to 1v1 a marauder at all, let alone in highsec? |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
937
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:02:24 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Why are you trying to 1v1 a marauder at all, let alone in highsec? Why the hell would you try to solo anything. Why not just blob everything everywhere.
Are you trying to be the devils advocate here? Just because you can't end the fight in 1 minute doesn't mean your oponent should be able to walk away unscathed.
What is your ideal pvp? Frigate vs frigate?
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Lament von Gankenheim
The Conference Elite CODE.
45
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:03:37 -
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so anyone that can survive longer than 60 seconds...it isnt pvp anymore?
lets not miss the point that ccp is trying to implement "Stupid Idea #4076" in quick succession to "Brain Scrape 2016" |
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4236
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:05:25 -
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I'm saying why are you trying to solo a ship known for tanking entire gangs, or even dreads, in highsec and complaining when the guy just moonwalks away from you.
As in, what did you expect a ship like that to do in the face of anything that isn't doing tens of thousands of DPS?
Why do you feel that your 1v1 should mean one of the participants is guaranteed a killmail? |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
937
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:08:30 -
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Isk tanking argument again.
Sigh, why do I even bother.
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4236
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:10:49 -
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Why should a 1v1 in highsec be a guaranteed killmail. |
Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
937
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:15:17 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Why should a 1v1 in highsec be a guaranteed killmail. It shouldn't be. I'm trying to avoid a 1v1 guaranteed gtfo card here, I hope you can understand that much. You don't fly in highsec do you?
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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4236
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:17:22 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Danika Princip wrote:Why should a 1v1 in highsec be a guaranteed killmail. It shouldn't be. I'm trying to avoid a 1v1 guaranteed gtfo card here, I hope you can understand that much. You don't fly in highsec do you?
No, I don't.
Perhaps you should try getting out of the kiddie pool? |
Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise Upholders
626
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:19:43 -
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First you said 1v1, then you said the other guy brought in a second ship to use to refit. Are you talking 1v1 or not?
Actual 1v1 means they only have a depot to use, so just reinforce it. If we're talking about what you said (multiple accounts) then its not 1v1 anyway, so bring friends. |
Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14181
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:29:16 -
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They can do this now, they don't though.
Better the Devil you know.
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
937
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Posted - 2016.02.16 20:54:58 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:First you said 1v1, then you said the other guy brought in a second ship to use to refit. Are you talking 1v1 or not?
Actual 1v1 means they only have a depot to use, so just reinforce it. If we're talking about what you said (multiple accounts) then its not 1v1 anyway, so bring friends. Okay, lets call it 1v1 limited engagement with outsider help.
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:They can do this now, they don't though. Well you can also refit scrams.
What I don't like is the asymmetrical treatment of refitting options that favor the guy wanting to run away making this game a more risk averse environment.
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Hopelesshobo
Tactical Nuclear Penguin's
560
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Posted - 2016.02.16 21:01:51 -
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Arya Regnar wrote: Okay, lets call it 1v1 limited engagement with outsider help.
So it's a 2v1...
Arya Regnar wrote: What I don't like is the asymmetrical treatment of refitting options that favor the guy wanting to run away making this game a more risk averse environment.
Shoot the mobile depot? Bump the Marauder? Bring a friend so its a 2v2 situation?
Lowering the average to make you look better since 2012.
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Estella Osoka
Perkone Caldari State
1044
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Posted - 2016.02.16 21:01:56 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Cidanel Afuran wrote:First you said 1v1, then you said the other guy brought in a second ship to use to refit. Are you talking 1v1 or not?
Actual 1v1 means they only have a depot to use, so just reinforce it. If we're talking about what you said (multiple accounts) then its not 1v1 anyway, so bring friends. Okay, lets call it 1v1 limited engagement with outsider help. Ralph King-Griffin wrote:They can do this now, they don't though. Well you can also refit scrams. What I don't like is the asymmetrical treatment of refitting options that favor the guy wanting to run away making this game a more risk averse environment.
If there was outsider help, then it wasn't really a 1v1. He outsmarted you, deal with it. |
Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise Upholders
627
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Posted - 2016.02.16 21:04:50 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Okay, lets call it 1v1 limited engagement with outsider help.
So do the same, bring a friend with more points. Highsec is designed to be safer (not safe, but safer) than other areas of EVE. If you don't like it, move somewhere that allows bubbles. |
Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2613
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Posted - 2016.02.16 21:09:12 -
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Arya Regnar wrote: Okay, lets call it 1v1 limited engagement with outsider help.
Why would he bring a ship who unload a depot or offer refit service when he can bring a falcon and break your point to run away? |
Cidanel Afuran
Static-Noise Upholders
627
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Posted - 2016.02.16 21:16:20 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Why would he bring a ship who unload a depot or offer refit service when he can bring a falcon and break your point to run away?
Why would you bring a 200 mil falcon when you could risk a billion isk nestor being engaged instead?
oh, wait... |
Kasia en Tilavine
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
82
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Posted - 2016.02.16 21:27:49 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Danika Princip wrote:To be fair, if you can't deal with your 1v1 opponent in a minute without any return fire, you don't really deserve the kill. What are marauders.
marauders maintain their weapons timer until they drop bastion. At which point, you have 60 seconds to break their tank before they can refit.
also, why are you attacking a marauder solo? There are NO. I repeat, NO ships in the game that can both, be in highsec, pvp, and kill a marauder. A mediocre T2 fit on a marauder tanks 2500 dps. |
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
937
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Posted - 2016.02.16 21:28:32 -
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I have updated post to reflect that this is about highsec refitting mechanics.
Very niche yeah, stuff nobody cares about enough so CCP don't mind breaking balance.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14182
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Posted - 2016.02.16 21:55:44 -
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Kasia en Tilavine wrote:There are NO. I repeat, NO ships in the game that can both, be in highsec, pvp, and kill a marauder. how sure are you of that.
Arya Regnar wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:They can do this now, they don't though. Well you can also refit scrams. you never need to though, the last thing someone will want to be doing is fiddling with their lowslots when you're hammering their tank.
dont get me wrong id be fairly feckinpissed if someone pulled this off on me but id have to tip my hat to a good escape.
Better the Devil you know.
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elitatwo
Eve Minions The-Company
1077
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Posted - 2016.02.16 23:39:20 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Kasia en Tilavine wrote:There are NO. I repeat, NO ships in the game that can both, be in highsec, pvp, and kill a marauder. how sure are you of that. Arya Regnar wrote:Ralph King-Griffin wrote:They can do this now, they don't though. Well you can also refit scrams. you never need to though, the last thing someone will want to be doing is fiddling with their lowslots when you're hammering their tank. dont get me wrong id be fairly feckinpissed if someone pulled this off on me but id have to tip my hat to a good escape.
To be honest, me too.
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
938
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Posted - 2016.02.17 05:44:50 -
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Sometimes I forget hardly anyone engages in this type of metagaming. I just wanted to bring this up because CCP will and have most certainly overlooked it.
I guess I will have to just suck it up like always.
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2919
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Posted - 2016.02.17 11:56:18 -
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If you shoot at someone and they run away without shooting back, you've already won. Why are you complaining?
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc Test Alliance Please Ignore
2919
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Posted - 2016.02.17 12:04:57 -
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Kasia en Tilavine wrote:also, why are you attacking a marauder solo? There are NO. I repeat, NO ships in the game that can both, be in highsec, pvp, and kill a marauder. A mediocre T2 fit on a marauder tanks 2500 dps. Oh I can think of a few...
Bhaalgorn Curse Falcon Absolution Astarte
FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."
Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
14186
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Posted - 2016.02.17 12:41:36 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote:Kasia en Tilavine wrote:also, why are you attacking a marauder solo? There are NO. I repeat, NO ships in the game that can both, be in highsec, pvp, and kill a marauder. A mediocre T2 fit on a marauder tanks 2500 dps. Oh I can think of a few... Bhaalgorn Curse Falcon Absolution Astarte Damn it reaver , spoil sport, I wanted to hear her response and then hit her with ishkur v marauder kills.
But yeah, you are correct. Anything with north of a small neut and enough dps to get them to run their tank can kill a marauder eventually .
Better the Devil you know.
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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
938
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Posted - 2016.02.17 16:02:53 -
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Reaver Glitterstim wrote: Oh I can think of a few...
Bhaalgorn Curse Falcon Absolution Astarte
Inb4 they say that marauder shouldn't duel these so it doesn't count
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FT Diomedes
The Graduates
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Posted - 2016.02.17 16:17:50 -
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Cidanel Afuran wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Why would he bring a ship who unload a depot or offer refit service when he can bring a falcon and break your point to run away? Why would you bring a 200 mil falcon when you could risk a billion isk nestor being engaged instead? oh, wait...
The whole problem with this is that the engagement is taking place in high sec. Get out of high sec and solve all your problems.
CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.
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Frostys Virpio
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
2616
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Posted - 2016.02.17 16:18:13 -
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Arya Regnar wrote:Reaver Glitterstim wrote: Oh I can think of a few...
Bhaalgorn Curse Falcon Absolution Astarte
Inb4 they say that marauder shouldn't duel these so it doesn't count
Fun fact, if a marauder duel one of those, both part of the 1V1 are now suspect and completely open for 3rd partying meaning the "It's only 1v1" point is now moot because anyone can join in.
There is no need for a change because in every single circumstance where it would matter, there is something else rendering the point moot. |
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