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Juris Pheonix
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2016.10.15 06:57:21 -
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Is it fun? How did you get into it?
I personally love exploration and have tried it in high, low, and null security space around the map. I got into it when a Russian friend tought me how to probe back in the day. I later realized I could make way more ISK by running small lowsec DED's than I could grinding missions. There's also a You Tuber who does exploration guides, along with other EVE content. He's pretty chill to listen to and most of his advice is on-point. I bet a lot of Alpha pilots are going to find his stuff helpful.
You don't have to say how much you make, although you certainly can. I'm not rich, but exploration definitely pays a chunk if you know how to do it right. |
Vincent Pelletier
Pelletier Imports and Exports
63
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Posted - 2016.10.15 07:08:13 -
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I make a lot of money with high sec combat exploration, if I have a few hours I tend to make some 200-500 mil. it's enjoyable, competitive and requires a few braincells, patience and initiative. Been doing this for years. I also do mission busting and the odd ganking for income and used to do wardecs for income but the changes made it nigh impossible for a solo player to do wardecs (wardecs are now done differently which is actually worse for the targets in many ways, a clear case of "be sure what you wish for").
I created this character to get into trading and manufacturing, something I never bothered with in all my years, to try something different and perhaps rekindle my love for EVE. It's making good isk but to me it's boring so I'll probably stop doing it. |
Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
289
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Posted - 2016.10.15 07:30:49 -
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Biggest ISK in game is probably trading & manufacturing. It all depends on play style. If you like actively flying space ships to make ISK, then exploration and WH and such are pretty good and fun options. If you really enjoy exploration it can be fun living in a WH with null/LS connections, as you always get new places to explore.
But as I mentioned with trading/manufacturing, there is tons of ISK to be made while never undocking, which can be pretty fun too if you like strategy/management type of game play.
"When faced with my demons, I clothe them and feed them,
and I smile, yes I smile as they are taking me over" - Strange Glue
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Big Lynx
7466
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Posted - 2016.10.15 07:33:32 -
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There was a time when ppl made a lot of isk without even logging in.... *ducks* |
The Golden Serpent
The Abrahadabra Institute
191
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Posted - 2016.10.15 07:56:31 -
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PLEX lol |
Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri
new order logistics CODE.
573
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Posted - 2016.10.15 08:07:01 -
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Unscrupulous sex in the pleasure hub. |
Sitting Bull Lakota
SBL Co
177
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Posted - 2016.10.15 08:12:39 -
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When I first started, I did missions. My goal was to unlock jumpclones, but the isk was nice. I started buying and selling ships through the trade channels after that and plexed a few months for my efforts. Overall I had fairly modest returns, but I really enjoyed having a hangar full of faction and Tech II battleships that I couldn't even sit in. So far, ratting in a carrier has provided me with the most isk/hr, but I was not particularly enthralled with it. With the orca changes on the horizon, I decided to pick up a pick and start swinging. I've enjoyed mining in about every other game that I've played, so I might as well try it here too. I'm not too sure about giving mining yield bonus to the orca. That seems like it will lead to disaster. Though it will be immensely popular. Which leads to my favorite way to make isk: speculation. When changes are announced or alluded to in big releases, I like to invest every .01 that I can into the modules and ships that are getting changed. It can go incredibly well for me or I could lose huge swaths of isk in a bad release. It's great! |
Pixel Piracy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2016.10.15 08:31:23 -
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At the moment, because I am studying and don't have a lot of time to devote to actual gameplay, I have been making ISK through PI, manufacturing and mining. PI is basically free ISK as once you set it up you can leave it running, come back in a week or so to collect the goods then rinse and repeat. Manufacturing is a bit more involved because you need to play the market to get the most out of it. I don't think I have figured it out yet but mostly I have been researching BP efficiencies up. Mining is generally regarded as dull and boring but seeing as I am studying I can alt-tab in and out of EVE to adjust my mining then go back to writing my assignments.
A good strategy that people often overlook is to train up your two other character slots. Get their PI skills up to scratch and set it all up to make free ISK across all three of your characters. Literally only have to log into them once a fortnight to click a few buttons. |
Juris Pheonix
SergalJerk Test Alliance Please Ignore
7
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Posted - 2016.10.15 08:38:46 -
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Big Lynx wrote:There was a time when ppl made a lot of isk without even logging in.... *ducks* I want you to know I liked this post. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
1057
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Posted - 2016.10.15 08:48:42 -
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Salah ad-Din al-Jawahiri wrote:Unscrupulous sex in the pleasure hub.
See, this is exactly how the Damsel keeps getting into the mess she's always in. I keep trying to tell people that, but nobody ever listens. Her mother would be rolling in her grave.
On OP's question: Missions for me, same as has always been. I do much more exploration nowadays than I have in the past, mainly due to the event sites if you count that as exploration. (shrugs) Eh, still works for me.
"Tomahawks?"
"----in' A, right?"
"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."
"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
18627
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Posted - 2016.10.15 08:48:49 -
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Im a Mercenary, I violence people for isk. Granted we haven't been soliciting business for a while so I've been riding on my accumulated wealth for quite a bit.
Praposal:Un-F**k Locator Agents
Praposal:Un-F**k NPC Corps
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Do Little
Virgin Plc Evictus.
440
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Posted - 2016.10.15 08:57:34 -
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I run a vertically integrated business with several characters in both highsec and nullsec. I harvest some of my material, build stuff, haul it to market and sell it. My characters are more like employees than avatars. The fun, for me is in the strategic planning more than the tactical execution. It is very profitable and I have complete flexibility for when and how long I play. If I don't have time to mine, I can buy my minerals - product is still profitable. If I don't have time to micromanage my market orders - stuff still sells, just not as quickly.
I expect that I could make more by specializing but it wouldn't be nearly as much fun. |
Pixel Piracy
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2016.10.15 09:11:25 -
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Do Little wrote:I expect that I could make more by specializing but it wouldn't be nearly as much fun.
And this is one of the learning curves of EVE. Sure you can make a whole load of ISK but unless you are having fun there's little point. Ultimately EVE is more about balancing your activities so that your income offsets your expenses than it is about 'making the most money'. Some of the best fun can be had rigging up T1 frigates and going out and getting blown up. |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
45174
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Posted - 2016.10.15 09:17:25 -
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A player that left gave me their stuff.
120Billion ISK and 200 Billion in ships and modules.
It pays to request it in forum threads.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Big Lynx
7468
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Posted - 2016.10.15 09:33:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:A player that left gave me their stuff.
120Billion ISK and 200 Billion in ships and modules.
It pays to request it in forum threads. canz i haz some? (@OP begging) |
The Butthole Licker
University of Caille Gallente Federation
51
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Posted - 2016.10.15 09:41:17 -
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Been playing on and off since 07
First day was missions, days 2-4 were mining fuckml.
By day 5 i was over PVE so i started stealing ore from jet cans, not only was pissing off players fun, but by my first month in game i had earned more than 500 million isk from ore theft.
Gave up ore theft after a month and started playing the market a bit with that 500 million, first big success at trading to me was buying faction ammo in jita and selling it all over low sec systems for 2-5 times as much as jita value. Delved into trading more.
Started low sec piracy and made some isk with loot and ransoms, but nothing compared to what i was making in the market.
By the end of my first year in EVE I put low sec piracy on the back burner and started suicide ganking afk haulers in jita until ccp stealth nerfed drops and word got out. Competition and loot theft depleted that gold mine, before ccp ultimately implemented autopilot docking feature. I made my easy tens of billions while it was still good though, and rolled it into the market.
Now I'm anti pirate, anti gank, full time trader for all my isk. During a good hour of "grinding" the market I can earn as much as 2 billion isk, my hourly average is far less though, but probably still better than any other means of making isk in game, but i could be mistaken.
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Eternus8lux8lucis
Primus Inc. LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM
1035
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Posted - 2016.10.15 10:11:55 -
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I run a business. Im with the guy thats managing his alts like employees rather than players. That and thinking, building and just creating characters, sourcing productions, integrating it both vertically and horizontally and synergizing my operation. It keeps me busy and my mind occupied and is more a solo activity then a group thing. I also enjoy being my own boss in that sense and making my own "hours". I do this mostly because I dont have to work in RL so I just try to be productive in game and Eve has been an amazing psychological outlet for that productive energy and creativity over the years giving so many facets that Ive found people need in order to thrive mentally and emotionally.
Have you heard anything I've said?
You said it's all circling the drain, the whole universe. Right?
That's right.
Had to end sometime.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
45174
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Posted - 2016.10.15 10:19:33 -
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Big Lynx wrote:canz i haz some? (@OP begging) This year it funded our very poor performance in the Alliance Tournament.
We are starting training for next year shortly, so I think in terms of the ISK, an Etana could be on the cards.
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
1011
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Posted - 2016.10.15 10:39:06 -
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i do a few different things for my ISK.
When I started out I did a little writing for an EVE news outlet (TheMittani.com) as their 'Resident Newbro'. This paid rather well, the downside is that it's exactly what I do 9-5 in my real job and it wound up really putting a dent in my ability to enjoy EVE.
Then I moved onto PI and 0.0 anomaly running in a VNI.
Nowadays I do PI, run anomalies and harvest gas in wormholes.
Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze
This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
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Tanthos
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
120
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Posted - 2016.10.15 11:54:12 -
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Traffik my exotic dancers. |
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Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
487
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Posted - 2016.10.15 12:20:49 -
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Juris Pheonix wrote:Is it fun? How did you get into it?
I personally love exploration and have tried it in high, low, and null security space around the map. I got into it when a Russian friend tought me how to probe back in the day. I later realized I could make way more ISK by running small lowsec DED's than I could grinding missions. There's also a You Tuber who does exploration guides, along with other EVE content. He's pretty chill to listen to and most of his advice is on-point. I bet a lot of Alpha pilots are going to find his stuff helpful.
You don't have to say how much you make, although you certainly can. I'm not rich, but exploration definitely pays a chunk if you know how to do it right.
For ISK? Industry, PI, some mission running. It's fun, but not my main focus. That's exploration, but I tend to spend more time wandering around and looking at stuff than actually collecting garbage, wait, I mean running sites
Anyway, I can't really say I do exploration for ISK, it's only for fun, if I find something nice, it's more an extra bonus.
Still, back when I started playing space archaeologist, I actually thought what I'm doing in the game would resemble archaeology. Man, was I wrong. If I were in a high enough position at CCP I would rename exploration to "Space Garbage Colllection", because that's what it feels like for me. If it weren't for the tons of neat stuff you can find and look at, I'd given up on EVE long ago. (Of course looking at neat stuff doesn't give you ISK, see above. )
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
365
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Posted - 2016.10.15 13:51:35 -
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Ive done pretty much everything in eve to make isk. Mostly grinding rats in null in various forms and exploration. Now i do pretty much whatever i want and can be as inefficient about it as a i want. I mostly run havens, plexes, and exploration sites now for pve, though i dont do it for the isk. Most of the time i spend in game is spent doing pvp though. |
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
616
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Posted - 2016.10.15 14:15:21 -
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Today I logged into Eve Online and I needed to buy a new Anathema. I was in Dodixie and my fit was all there except for the tech II Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade. Sinq Laison's Regional Market shows it was completely sold out.
This is usually how my game starts. Totally random event like that where I could run to Jita and bring back like .. I dunno 20 of them and relist them for a little higher than they should be regularly in Sinq Laison. Other times it's something really a snooze fest like mining gas.
Since I live in a wormhole, it's also very random when I undock and probe. I could exit just about anywhere and that could lead to me doing DED sites or maybe there's a wormhole in the chain with like 22 anoms. Or maybe there's a guy who's running a site in a faction battleship with a 2-51 zkillboard record and whatever falls out of his ship is my paycheck.
My point is, the ISK is a bit secondary. I like to do a little bit of everything or else I'd burn out.
@lunettelulu7
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Toobo
Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium
290
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Posted - 2016.10.15 15:02:45 -
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Lulu Lunette wrote:Today I logged into Eve Online and I needed to buy a new Anathema. I was in Dodixie and my fit was all there except for the tech II Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade. Sinq Laison's Regional Market shows it was completely sold out.
This is usually how my game starts. Totally random event like that where I could run to Jita and bring back like .. I dunno 20 of them and relist them for a little higher than they should be regularly in Sinq Laison. Other times it's something really a snooze fest like mining gas.
Since I live in a wormhole, it's also very random when I undock and probe. I could exit just about anywhere and that could lead to me doing DED sites or maybe there's a wormhole in the chain with like 22 anoms. Or maybe there's a guy who's running a site in a faction battleship with a 2-51 zkillboard record and whatever falls out of his ship is my paycheck.
My point is, the ISK is a bit secondary. I like to do a little bit of everything or else I'd burn out.
Yeah I love WH for that. Sometimes you just don't know what you will be doing for the night till the scan results come out heh.
"When faced with my demons, I clothe them and feed them,
and I smile, yes I smile as they are taking me over" - Strange Glue
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3019
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Posted - 2016.10.15 15:08:07 -
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Changed over time from more active stuff like Exploration to more passive stuff ... now my main income comes from PI + T2 production plus some trade on opportunities. On top PvP loot, MTUs, lost geckos, fighters, and clone soldier tags collected on the fly while roaming. Also the events are usually temporary cash cows, I'm looking forward to the blood raiders ...
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Paranoid Loyd
9690
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Posted - 2016.10.15 15:47:03 -
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I prey on the ignorant, foolish and lazy.
"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix
Fix the Prospect!
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Ria Nieyli
46478
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Posted - 2016.10.15 16:59:45 -
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Big Lynx wrote:There was a time when ppl made a lot of isk without even logging in.... *ducks*
What are you talking about, you can still spend cash on PLEX to make ISK
"slang" is shortened language for "shortened language"
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Galaxy Duck
Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing
61
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Posted - 2016.10.15 19:25:10 -
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I kill retrievers in the name of James 315 and the New Order of Highsec.
It is indeed fun.
I got into by witnessing, first hand, the horrors of old Highsec and realizing the need for change.
I make 5-10 mil per gank on average.
See www.minerbumping.com for more details. |
Mathias Raholan
Lezaruss Industrial Systems Intrepid Crossing
19
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Posted - 2016.10.15 19:54:37 -
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Been an industrialist for 5.5yrs. All industry except PI because **** thay after 4 years straight. Exploration and ratting are fun too. |
Rain6637
NulzSec
34285
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Posted - 2016.10.15 21:02:04 -
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I sort of... stay subbed by default, sometimes for months without a login. So I sell SP.
Help, I can't download EVE
President of the Commissar Kate Fanclub
PLEX: A Giffen good? (It's 1B?)
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