EVE System > Channel MOTD: Welcome to the recruitment channel. This channel is intended for those players looking to find a new corporation, as well as those looking to enlist new players. Other activities, such as non-recruitment discussion is not permitted. No scamming is allowed in this channel and this includes, but not limited to, using the recruitment channel as a platform to find or target players to scam. As per subject, we ask everyone to use their best judgment before contracting assets or ISK as part of corporation's recruitment process and any deals made or finalized outside this channel are done at your own risk and responsibility.An additional recruitment source is the Alliance and Corporation Recruitment Center section of the forums.

Stop being a fool.

Only noobs use this channel and a scam there can literally deprive CCP of future funds.

It is a tradeoff. There has to be SOME protection of newer players due to the issues leading to difficulty getting into proper grouping that can help them advance (Not all want to go to Eve Uni)

Stop using the word "sandbox" every time you get stopped from abusing systems intended to help newer players.

hope that helps

nope and your an arrogant idiot.

waah, waah, waah, I believe I'm entitled to everything and overturn rulings, just like all other rational systems implemented by CCP.

You are one of those who believes suicide ganking, scams and any sort of non-consensual PvP is bad for the game.

CCP hates you. They hate hate hate your corp, they hate your alliance, they hate your smelly little dog, Toto too.

They want you to die in a horrible, smelly, festering, hate filled pit of hate and contempt.

Mostly they just hate you though.

Oh yea, Stuffs. Now.

I disagree with scamming newbros, as well as disagree with blanket bans for behavior like this.

I disagree with scamming newbros, as well as disagree with blanket bans for behavior like this.

I'm pretty torn TBH, but this CCP decision is indeed on a slippery slope. It would be nice to design a "corp finder" with similar functionality to the agent finder so the channel itself could be free game again, but thats not a tiny task.

My point is, there are much better ways to ensure new players have positive first experiences with EVE than this.

There are many paths to removing these restrictions.

#1 Is this http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Possibly_Practical_POS_Performance_Proposal_%28CSM%29 fully modular permissions and divisions will mean the spy and thief threat can be better managed so noobs will be in demand again instead of shunned as potential spiez.

There are other good ideas as well.

So its not slippery slope. Its a temporary band aid.

That 1 billion ISK you paid for a vanity alliance ticker is surely paying off.

There are many paths to removing these restrictions.

#1 Is this http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Possibly_Practical_POS_Performance_Proposal_%28CSM%29 fully modular permissions and divisions will mean the spy and thief threat can be better managed so noobs will be in demand again instead of shunned as potential spiez.

There are other good ideas as well.

So its not slippery slope. Its a temporary band aid.

So what gives, why are you going down the road of prohibiting scams? I understand why character and timecode scams are not allowed, due to the fact that they involve the purchasing of services from CCP, but recruitment? Really? This rule is vague, it is selectively enforced and it goes completely against the spirit of the game. This rule also doesn't stop players from scouting out corporations to infiltrate and rob blind, it doesn't stop recruiters from looking for saps to recruit and gank - it is specifically targeted towards one type of scam. So I ask, why the double standard? Remove this rule.

CCP is against scams and scam artists of this nature in-general, but so long as people abide by the EULA, funds or assets acquired through what one would term fraud and/or embezzlement in RL are within the context of the game at-large, and thus not actionable by CCP.

Because the recruitment channel is an official CCP moderated channel, and as such scamming is not tolerated there. Not to mention that the recruitment channel is part of the NPE, which is sacred to CCP.

Now see here, uh... Hair Face. The recruitment channel is intended for recruitment and although you Goons are notorious recruit scammers, you will have to find your own channel to scam in.

Because the recruitment channel is an official CCP moderated channel, and as such scamming is not tolerated there. Not to mention that the recruitment channel is part of the NPE, which is sacred to CCP.

Believe it or not, CCP does not actually endorse scamming. In fact, CCP's official policy on scamming is that it is undesirable, but not against the rules:



CCP was referring to the EIB scam here.

I feel that the whole "scamming new players" thing is just something that the ~anti-griefer~ crowd likes to harp on about. What defines a "new player?" How is a new player even worth scamming?

My experience is that scams see much more ISK going the other way - I've seen newbies in my alliance scam 70M SP bittervets out of ISK and ships in their first week.

That doesn't even apply outside of wormholes, and really, a perfectly viable solution exists in feeder/training corps. It's also not relevant.

I question how long you have seriously been playing EVE if you don't consider the huge issues of corp theft and it's effect on newer players relevant.

Regardless for the time being the rule is needed. Stop whining.

More like the recruitment channel kiiiind of loses its luster if it's constantly being spammed by scam artists instead of people trying to actually get people into their corporation.

Goon tears