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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:08:00 -
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A month of hell for BRUCE alliance resulted in the most comedic BURN EDEN campaign since the ASCN pillage. Firstly our stats:
Assault Ship 13 / 0 Battlecruiser 44 / 0 Battleship 97 / 6 Black Ops 0 / 1 Capsule 133 / 5 Combat Recon Ship 10 / 0 Command Ship 4 / 0 Covert Ops 3 / 0 Cruiser 45 / 0 Destroyer 4 / 0 Electronic Attack Ship 16 / 10 Force Recon Ship 23 / 1 Frigate 9 / 0 Heavy Assault Ship 47 / 0 Heavy Interdictor 4 / 0 Industrial 15 / 0 Interceptor 52 / 0 Interdictor 12 / 3 Marauder 1 / 0 Mining Barge 3 / 0 Rookie ship 2 / 0 Shuttle 3 / 0 Stealth Bomber 14 / 0 Transport Ship 1 / 0
BRUCE will no doubt claim that we had little effect on them blah blah blah. But their forums say otherwise.
Originally by: GodsVervloek ôI vote for corp level enforcement of the most important 0.0 law: "THOU SHALT NOT TRAVEL VIA STARGATES ANYWHERE NEAR BURN EDEN"!!ö
Originally by: Princess Guard
Originally by: Minokou Id like to add that we need to have a permanent bruce cleanup squad in burn eden occupied systems to pop the wrecks before they get to them, then cloak back up. I feel this will be our greatest and most effective combat tactic to date.
mo that should generally be considered if we can't hold the field. I'd like to take credit for popping 98% of all friendly wrecks in 75FA (cap loss op), and I hope that in the last minutes of the fight after I was down someone else did that.
Originally by: Anhtarus What happens if we get 3-4 groups of BE style tactics in our entire space? They could shut down our industry completely.
Originally by: Hoxothul I think he refered to the fact that yesterday BE shut down the outpost in 7bx by throwing a bubble at the dock, basically shutting down 50-60 bruce members or so.
Originally by: Wide As the quantity of unposted losses seems to be increasing, it may provide an indication that BE are in fact eroding morale on a larger scale than the alliance is acknowledging.
I think you get the picture by now. In the end we left BRUCE space after we had emphatically left our mark. As a parting gift, BRUCE hired some mercs on us who briefly showed up with some badly fitted ships yesterday, only to loose one and the run away û talk about value for money! Maybe you should consider investing their fee in the B.E.A.T (BURN EDEN ACTION TEAM}. Lord knows they could use some more ships....
Anyway, Smash/Roadkill you are next.
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:12:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Anyway, Smash/Roadkill you are next.
figures you guys finally show up while i'm out of game
have fun on the oij gate.
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Wesley Baird
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:17:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra Anyway, Smash/Roadkill you are next.
Where do I sign up???
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CHAOS100
Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:18:00 -
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good to see Shin Ra back in BE, looks like a typical contract... --------------
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra Battleship 97 / 6
6 battleships lost?
my good Shin Ra, I think your boys are loosing your touch ---
Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards |
Arshese
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:21:00 -
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Hey Burn Eden.
Gotcha hauler.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Shin Ra Battleship 97 / 6
6 battleships lost?
my good Shin Ra, I think your boys are loosing your touch
That would be DHB failcat and his "insurance jobs"
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Dose One
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:24:00 -
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Now, I find that there's one sole matter that all of the alliances of conquerable space can agree upon, and that is that BRUCE is pretty fun to shoot~ Owing to lack of Eve-related content, signature removed. If you would like to discuss this, please mail [email protected] - Mitnal |
SajuukThanatoskhar
Gallente Black Plague. RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:27:00 -
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And I thought the BE campaign in Frege space was bad... |
Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:27:00 -
[10]
SATAN > FYI you ****** with the wrong indy, pay back is going to be a *****
Too bad you guys lost all that loot :(. |
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Darsi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Equin SATAN > FYI you ****** with the wrong indy, pay back is going to be a *****
Too bad you guys lost all that loot :(.
I like Burn Eden chatlogs better than BRUCE ones. |
Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Darsi
Originally by: Equin SATAN > FYI you ****** with the wrong indy, pay back is going to be a *****
Too bad you guys lost all that loot :(.
I like Burn Eden chatlogs better than BRUCE ones.
SATAN > I like boys
/agreed |
Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:31:00 -
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Edited by: Equin on 22/04/2008 21:32:09
Originally by: Darsi
Originally by: Equin SATAN > FYI you ****** with the wrong indy, pay back is going to be a *****
Too bad you guys lost all that loot :(.
I like Burn Eden chatlogs better than BRUCE ones.
Man i dunno, what about bruce chatlogs about BE?
Quote:
I could really personally need those 30mins of calm ratting now and then, and goons prevent me to do that. BE was not even an issue, they sat in b170 or L1, with a scout in one (1) adjacent system. It was so easy to avoid them it's ridicilous.
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Apart from above mentioned, which I think is the major problems, there's also a few minor issues where they are alot more dangerous than BE:
Goons, more dangerous than BE? In my fountain? For shame.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Equin
Goons, more dangerous than BE? In my fountain? For shame.
Goons in Fountain? Did you get lost on the way to NOL? |
Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Equin
Goons, more dangerous than BE? In my fountain? For shame.
Goons in Fountain? Did you get lost on the way to NOL?
NOL gate in PR was camped, got lost going around it :(. |
Darsi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Equin
Goons, more dangerous than BE? In my fountain? For shame.
Goons in Fountain? Did you get lost on the way to NOL?
Nah we're too elite to go after tough targets so to preserve a good k/d ratio we decided to go after BRUCE. |
DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:38:00 -
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Heh, yeah I suicided a domi and phoon because insurance was running out on them. Had fun but it still counts against the numbers.
Goons have something coming to them next. I wsih we could hurry up out here already, time for squishing some bees is coming shortly.
WildCat |
Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: Darsi
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Equin
Goons, more dangerous than BE? In my fountain? For shame.
Goons in Fountain? Did you get lost on the way to NOL?
Nah we're too elite to go after tough targets so to preserve a good k/d ratio we decided to go after BRUCE.
Hmm, 2.36:1. Oh well, at least you have your e-honour. |
Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat Heh, yeah I suicided a domi and phoon because insurance was running out on them. Had fun but it still counts against the numbers.
Goons have something coming to them next. I wsih we could hurry up out here already, time for squishing some bees is coming shortly.
WildCat
Ooh presents? I want the fashion barbie and some hotwheels. |
Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova Trinity Nova Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.22 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Shin Ra Battleship 97 / 6
6 battleships lost?
my good Shin Ra, I think your boys are loosing your touch
That would be DHB failcat and his "insurance jobs"
oh...
quite explained then ---
Trinity Nova Mercenary Services Web Site - Nominated for the 2008 E-ON Magazine Awards |
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Szprinkoth Sponsz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.22 22:16:00 -
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Posting in a blackops thread. |
Hast
The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 22:17:00 -
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Originally by: DHB WildCat Heh, yeah I suicided a domi and phoon because insurance was running out on them. Had fun but it still counts against the numbers.
Goons have something coming to them next. I wsih we could hurry up out here already, time for squishing some bees is coming shortly.
WildCat
why not, like reinsure them? |
Xue XinMao
West Wind Waylanders
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Posted - 2008.04.22 22:59:00 -
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BRUCE IS ASCN, dude.
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Xue XinMao BRUCE IS ASCN, dude.
yes only of the north ish... !! muhahaha =P
For 1 or for All |
Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Xue XinMao BRUCE IS ISS and RISE, dude.
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Shadoo
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:11:00 -
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Nice stats, as always.
o/ and GL on your next jobby.
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MAXSuicide
Quam Singulari Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:27:00 -
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Edited by: MAXSuicide on 22/04/2008 23:34:07
ahahaha u lost 6 bships.
losing ur touch
(**** u grimpak )
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ori16
The JORG Corporation Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:27:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Shin Ra Battleship 97 / 6
6 battleships lost?
my good Shin Ra, I think your boys are loosing your touch
That would be DHB failcat and his "insurance jobs"
TTEEHEE ori16 |
ori16
The JORG Corporation Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: ori16 on 22/04/2008 23:30:51 SMash are in for an ass kickin We stop FOR NO 1 **** AM BUBBLED!!! ori16 |
Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:36:00 -
[30]
*yawn*
Not exactly news that someone decides to camp the oij gate.
Magic 8 Ball predicts that the killboards will show who can't be bothered to check intel and who is bored enough to look for a fight there.
Do you count losses by your various out of corp alts in these k/d ratios?
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Cmd Woodlouse
moon7empler Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:51:00 -
[31]
My god get a life
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Grisja Ivanovitj
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.04.22 23:57:00 -
[32]
Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse My god get a life
Real life is very overrated, Eve is where it's at
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Mr Rive
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.23 00:08:00 -
[33]
Nice stats, as always
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xRevolveRx
Masters of Mayhem
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Posted - 2008.04.23 00:13:00 -
[34]
3500 people in BRUCE and thats all the dumb comments you could get? You fail. |
SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: *****zilla Edited by: *****zilla on 22/04/2008 23:38:58 *yawn*
Not exactly news that someone decides to camp the oij gate.
Magic 8 Ball predicts that the killboards will show who can't be bothered to check intel and who is bored enough to look for a fight there. If its like any other gang that shows up you should be able to score maybe 800-1200 kills including pods if you stay there a month.
Do you count losses by your various out of corp alts in these k/d ratios?
Why is it that in every campaign result and on every hostile forum it is commonly believed that our alt losses are not mentioned?
Have you EVER seen a burn eden member fly a dictor? Where do you think the dictor losses mentioned are from?
ALL LOSSES ARE COUNTED, hell Wild even decided to gank our stats by doing really stupid stuff and we counted that, why wouldnt we post a few tackler losses?
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Anubis Xian
Vertigo One
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:05:00 -
[36]
You fielded a Black Ops and lost it?
I'd be interested in the story there as I'm planning on flying one myself.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
I'm the Juggernaut, *****! |
SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:05:00 -
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Originally by: Equin SATAN > FYI you ****** with the wrong indy, pay back is going to be a *****
Too bad you guys lost all that loot :(.
Don't worry we got most of the expensive stuff back when all 6 of you ran away from my raven.
And that was just 1 indy load, lots more where that came from.
But the good news is you bought you and yours a special package deal when you decided it was a good idea to kill that indy. Our efforts to stay clear from you guys because of past relations was redirected. Get rich and fat, see ya soon.
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Manella Seldon
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Manella Seldon on 23/04/2008 01:10:35 Nice work BRUCE are Chill Brosefs! |
SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:11:00 -
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Originally by: Anubis Xian You fielded a Black Ops and lost it?
I'd be interested in the story there as I'm planning on flying one myself.
I lost the Widow, honestly its crap. Damage output of a ripe tomato and cant jam worth a damn, for some reason even though my jam strength was equivalent to a falcon(max skill) it would not jam nearly as well. For example testing showed a falcon would jam a mega 9/10 times with 14.2 jam strength, the widow only did 5/10 with same strength.
Anyways back to the story, jumped in to kill some guy and a fleet showed up on top of me, it only took 30 of them to kill me. Only reason I continued to fly it was because going back to empire to switch ships was too much of a chore.
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:11:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Manella Seldon Edited by: Manella Seldon on 23/04/2008 01:10:35 Nice work
ticker ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:12:00 -
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Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Equin SATAN > FYI you ****** with the wrong indy, pay back is going to be a *****
Too bad you guys lost all that loot :(.
Don't worry we got most of the expensive stuff back when all 6 of you ran away from my raven.
And that was just 1 indy load, lots more where that came from.
But the good news is you bought you and yours a special package deal when you decided it was a good idea to kill that indy. Our efforts to stay clear from you guys because of past relations was redirected. Get rich and fat, see ya soon.
hehe Squish da beeeeeees! Yeah I decided to hull tank some of BS and jump blindly into 0.0 choke points..... why? Because its fun!
All out of corp loses are accounted for as SATAN stated.
To Bruce... honestly your improvement has been great since we last encountered you. I can tell you that during our time out there we did not use spies, or anything of the such. Thats my word, and I know its hard to "believe" but it is the truth. It was a pleasure playing computer and psychological games with you. I look forward to an even greater challenge in the future.
WildCat
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DigitalCommunist
Obsidian Core
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: xRevolveRx 3500 people in BRUCE and thats all the dumb comments you could get? You fail.
Heh. _______________________________ http://epicwords.net/ |
PHPR Freighter
Minmatar Project Nemesis W A S T E L A N D
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
I think you get the picture by now. In the end we left BRUCE space after we had emphatically left our mark. As a parting gift, BRUCE hired some mercs on us who briefly showed up with some badly fitted ships yesterday, only to loose one and the run away û talk about value for money! Maybe you should consider investing their fee in the B.E.A.T (BURN EDEN ACTION TEAM}. Lord knows they could use some more ships....
Maybe they might be the 6 high end mercs that were hired to kill AltheKiller after stealing a carrier? -------- I am Anti-Macro, I am Anti-Roadkill, I am Anti-Asshats. This is just personal standings, not those of any corps or alliances I may join.
-Insert KB here- |
ceyriot
Induseng Enterprises R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:20:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Anyway, Smash/Roadkill you are next.
Orly?
Faction Store |
Anubis Xian
Vertigo One
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:28:00 -
[45]
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Anubis Xian You fielded a Black Ops and lost it?
I'd be interested in the story there as I'm planning on flying one myself.
I lost the Widow, honestly its crap. Damage output of a ripe tomato and cant jam worth a damn, for some reason even though my jam strength was equivalent to a falcon(max skill) it would not jam nearly as well. For example testing showed a falcon would jam a mega 9/10 times with 14.2 jam strength, the widow only did 5/10 with same strength.
Anyways back to the story, jumped in to kill some guy and a fleet showed up on top of me, it only took 30 of them to kill me. Only reason I continued to fly it was because going back to empire to switch ships was too much of a chore.
Yeah, seems the Widow is the worst of the four in action, yet seems like one of the better ones on paper...
I'll be trying out the Redeemer.
Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
I'm the Juggernaut, *****! |
Vanna Phirun
A.W.M Soul of Fountain
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:37:00 -
[46]
Originally by: SATAN
I lost the Widow, honestly its crap. Damage output of a ripe tomato and cant jam worth a damn, for some reason even though my jam strength was equivalent to a falcon(max skill) it would not jam nearly as well. For example testing showed a falcon would jam a mega 9/10 times with 14.2 jam strength, the widow only did 5/10 with same strength.
optimal range bonus?
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Sator deHarak
Caldari The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.23 01:41:00 -
[47]
Well. I can only speak for myself here but...
As a rank noob who managed to avoid being ganked by you guys and who also attempted to catch you several times (unsuccessfully of course...I have a lot to learn. Additionally I am not sure what I would have DONE with you had I actually caught ya)...it was a pleasure learning a few things from what looked to be a real tight knit corp/alliance. I gotta hand it to you...seeing you in action was impressive. I look forward to your next visit...but don't make it too soon. I need to make some isk to buy the ships to play with you in!
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Jangizal
Caldari COBRA INC Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.23 02:07:00 -
[48]
Hope you guys had fun in Fountain. See you again in the near future. o/ |
Tabouli
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.23 02:32:00 -
[49]
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Anubis Xian You fielded a Black Ops and lost it?
I'd be interested in the story there as I'm planning on flying one myself.
I lost the Widow, honestly its crap. Damage output of a ripe tomato and cant jam worth a damn, for some reason even though my jam strength was equivalent to a falcon(max skill) it would not jam nearly as well. For example testing showed a falcon would jam a mega 9/10 times with 14.2 jam strength, the widow only did 5/10 with same strength.
Anyways back to the story, jumped in to kill some guy and a fleet showed up on top of me, it only took 30 of them to kill me. Only reason I continued to fly it was because going back to empire to switch ships was too much of a chore.
didn't want it anyway |
Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.23 02:43:00 -
[50]
so ima see 1 cloaked dictor at around 5000 meters on oij gate with 1 rapier within 20-30 and a couple cruise damp ravens randomly around the gate. has anything changed since last time buddy. |
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Haargoth Agamar
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.23 02:49:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Peoke so ima see 1 cloaked dictor at around 5000 meters on oij gate with 1 rapier within 20-30 and a couple cruise damp ravens randomly around the gate. has anything changed since last time buddy.
Yet you still haven't learned how to kill them or how to stop them from getting tons of kills.
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INZi
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 03:10:00 -
[52]
BE rules. what happend to that wildcat movie thingie? _
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XxAngelxX
Amarr The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 03:18:00 -
[53]
You're still a terrible PvPer Shin, also, did you undock this campaign? --------------------------------------
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.23 03:39:00 -
[54]
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Equin SATAN > FYI you ****** with the wrong indy, pay back is going to be a *****
Too bad you guys lost all that loot :(.
Don't worry we got most of the expensive stuff back when all 6 of you ran away from my raven.
And that was just 1 indy load, lots more where that came from.
But the good news is you bought you and yours a special package deal when you decided it was a good idea to kill that indy. Our efforts to stay clear from you guys because of past relations was redirected. Get rich and fat, see ya soon.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
UR DED AT FANFEST
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.23 03:40:00 -
[55]
seriously though dude do you even read what you type
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Miss Ion
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Posted - 2008.04.23 03:44:00 -
[56]
Hey surprise another Bruce who had fun while BE where hanging out.course i was the one who got away..hehe it was fun stalking you guys in my falcon..and the one occasion i had you guys jammed up..almost died there. But it shouldnt surprise anyone that most Bruces welcomed the opportunity to learn something..if not the loss of ships..but ships can be replaced.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 04:11:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Equin SATAN > FYI you ****** with the wrong indy, pay back is going to be a *****
Too bad you guys lost all that loot :(.
Don't worry we got most of the expensive stuff back when all 6 of you ran away from my raven.
And that was just 1 indy load, lots more where that came from.
But the good news is you bought you and yours a special package deal when you decided it was a good idea to kill that indy. Our efforts to stay clear from you guys because of past relations was redirected. Get rich and fat, see ya soon.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
UR DED AT FANFEST
Sounds like Satan has sand in his bagina |
Kushion
Anti Sweden Defense Force Virtue of Selfishness
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Posted - 2008.04.23 04:16:00 -
[58]
Burn eden thread 9.4/10.
Please keep up the amusing posts :D |
Lipix
Amarr Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.04.23 04:22:00 -
[59]
<3 BE. Hope you swing our way again in the near future. |
Barasu
Minmatar Black Water.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 04:38:00 -
[60]
Burn Eden are the item. ballz to the wall or sacrifice the weak link! |
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 05:13:00 -
[61]
Edited by: Viper ****zIe on 23/04/2008 05:26:38
Oh man, if General Dynasty could spin as well as this guy TRI would still be alive.
EDIT1: That's not meatspin. EDIT2: BRUCE, you won't catch my alt so stop trying to figure out who was logged in at the time.
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.23 06:26:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Tenebrys on 23/04/2008 06:26:41
Originally by: Viper ****zIe Oh man, if General Dynasty could spin as well as
Quote: well we they ripped us new *******s but the new *******s werent as big as the new *******s that everyone else ripped us so yeah dont worry just rub your new *******s and feel good that they could have been bigger but werent
hahahahahahahaha
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Xaldor
New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.04.23 07:03:00 -
[63]
Kudos on having the stones to go out into their territory and taking them on.
However, I have browsed the kill mail at random for some of the BS kills and stock ratting T1 BSes armed with salvagers, tractor beams and T1 drones are never going to compete against a 5 man gank squad firing faction ammo.
Not sure how much it is a morale setback and how much it is an annoyance. I think mercs perform a very good role and can be effective for disrupting some activities but I think the chest beating and attempting to ridicule your victim is a bit over the top. |
Mr McDee
Ancient Crew
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Posted - 2008.04.23 07:26:00 -
[64]
Ho-ho-ho, Shin Ra is back to BURN EDEN and to his usual business of e-muscle flexing...
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Kyguard
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.23 07:41:00 -
[65]
Nice |
Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.23 08:05:00 -
[66]
Originally by: SATAN
Don't worry we got most of the expensive stuff back when all 6 of you ran away from my raven.
And that was just 1 indy load, lots more where that came from.
But the good news is you bought you and yours a special package deal when you decided it was a good idea to kill that indy. Our efforts to stay clear from you guys because of past relations was redirected. Get rich and fat, see ya soon.
I'll get you next time, Goonies! Next time!
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Trade Factor
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Posted - 2008.04.23 08:19:00 -
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Kastar
Paragon Horizons THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.23 08:30:00 -
[68]
This game has spiraled so much down I can't even commence to describe.
What the hell happened if someone can lay the guns on some other party and immediately reveal what is being said on the victim's boards ?
I'd say fight your fight and treat it like a game. Why always the spying and wtf... don't people have other stuff to do ? |
shuckstar
Gallente Hauling hogs
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:19:00 -
[69]
Great stats as always Burn Eden
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Tabare Vazquez
Uruguay Forever
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:20:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Kastar This game has spiraled so much down I can't even commence to describe.
What the hell happened if someone can lay the guns on some other party and immediately reveal what is being said on the victim's boards ?
I'd say fight your fight and treat it like a game. Why always the spying and wtf... don't people have other stuff to do ?
It's always fun to see what the other side has to say about you. You also seem to think that getting spies into any of the Fountain alliances is hard.. not with their current practice of recruiting everyone to bolster their numbers and seem more threatening.
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Antaree
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:37:00 -
[71]
Originally by: DHB WildCat
To Bruce... honestly your improvement has been great since we last encountered you. I can tell you that during our time out there we did not use spies, or anything of the such. Thats my word, and I know its hard to "believe" but it is the truth.
WildCat
You say this, while your corp mate posts full first post of (probably) BRUCE forums quotes? That sounds bit odd, doesnt it?
Also, are you still doing the "I heroically sit in cloak whole day and pop ratters / haulers with my 2 bn faction ship if theres noone around" tactic which got old 2 years ago or you came with something new this time? |
King Hopy
Beasts of Burden R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:50:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Haargoth Agamar
Originally by: Peoke so ima see 1 cloaked dictor at around 5000 meters on oij gate with 1 rapier within 20-30 and a couple cruise damp ravens randomly around the gate. has anything changed since last time buddy.
Yet you still haven't learned how to kill them or how to stop them from getting tons of kills.
Never struck to you that most people have more important things to do (for example pvp in the war zones) than trying to hunt down cloaked people who only uncloak when they know they are in for an easy gank. The only people who die to burn eden camping the oij gate in bwf are the ones who don't check intel / don't care.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:51:00 -
[73]
Edited by: Victor Vision on 23/04/2008 11:51:54
Originally by: Antaree
Originally by: DHB WildCat
To Bruce... honestly your improvement has been great since we last encountered you. I can tell you that during our time out there we did not use spies, or anything of the such. Thats my word, and I know its hard to "believe" but it is the truth.
WildCat
...
Also, are you still doing the "I heroically sit in cloak whole day and pop ratters / haulers with my 2 bn faction ship if theres noone around" tactic which got old 2 years ago or you came with something new this time?
Excuse me?
If you think flying a 2bn faction BS into enemy 0.0 space for mostly solo work is easy, why not try it yourself and see what happens?
Many pilots are afraid to move their 2bn ships to their space in 0.0 even when it is not under attack. Never heard anyone asking for an escort because of moving an expensive faction ship?
Very few pilots have the balls to take an expensive faction ship into enemy territory to use it for offensive work. Even less pilots will dare to use a ship as such for solo action in enemy territory in 0.0.
I have seen DHBWildcat in action a few times, and think he has both - balls and skill.
Jeese. I sound like a fanboy... Will not happen again...
EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki |
Fitz Chivalry
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 11:59:00 -
[74]
Being impressed by BE gate camping stats is so 2005. . |
Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.04.23 12:03:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Being impressed by BE gate camping stats is so 2005. .
Actually not being impressed by those stats is so 2005 Go and read the threads from back then... |
Iva Soreass
Personal Vendetta
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Posted - 2008.04.23 13:00:00 -
[76]
Nice to see Shin Ra back in BE :D
GL On the blobbkill campaign, hope you shower them with the same love you did to bruce, expect lots and lots or kiddie smack o/.
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stinger7
eve tutors inc
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Posted - 2008.04.23 13:39:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Victor Vision
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Being impressed by BE gate camping stats is so 2005. .
Actually not being impressed by those stats is so 2005 Go and read the threads from back then...
Never mind him bud fitz has never been part of anything impressive, well apart from failure that is.
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Jelena Jinx
Gallente Northen Breeze
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Posted - 2008.04.23 13:47:00 -
[78]
i love you Burn Eden.. that is the best news of the week :P keep on ganking them :D more carebear death :)
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MineralOel Steuer
Amarr OP EC
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Posted - 2008.04.23 13:49:00 -
[79]
zomg Shin Ra |
Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 13:49:00 -
[80]
Originally by: stinger7
Originally by: Victor Vision
Originally by: Fitz Chivalry Being impressed by BE gate camping stats is so 2005. .
Actually not being impressed by those stats is so 2005 Go and read the threads from back then...
Never mind him bud fitz has never been part of anything impressive, well apart from failure that is.
Hey someones gotta fail for others to shine. We take our job seriously and deliver vOv.
On topic: <3 shin ra but someone called (it was 2005).
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E White Core
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Posted - 2008.04.23 14:00:00 -
[81]
altough your tactics are effective they dont make em very much fun ;)
anyway gratz on stats..
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stinger7
eve tutors inc
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Posted - 2008.04.23 14:10:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Garia666 altough your tactics are effective they dont make em very much fun ;)
anyway gratz on stats..
Nobody thinks BE tactics are fun (apart from BE i suppose) but then losing ships at a 40-1 ratio or more when a lot of the time you outnumber them tends to leave ppl rather bitter about it. |
Maar T'Kmel
Minmatar Free Galactic Enterprises Infinite Innovation
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Posted - 2008.04.23 14:14:00 -
[83]
Originally by: SajuukThanatoskhar And I thought the BE campaign in Frege space was bad...
Being on the FREGE-side of that campaign I have one thing to say about being blown up by BE...they teach you things. If there's one thing you get out of BE in your space it's that you need to get your &^%$ together, FCs need to be on the ball, an alliances industry needs to be tighter and more secure, people need to get on TS/Vent and if they're not them boot them out of your alliance. That's the ticket to holding yourself up against BE...communication. |
Yakiyo Korikei
Quam Singulari Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 14:34:00 -
[84]
Nice stats
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.23 14:55:00 -
[85]
People can say what they want about BRUCE, but I got impressed by the lack of smack from you guys.
Never saw a bad word from any BRUCE guy while in their space.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.23 15:00:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Antaree
Originally by: DHB WildCat
To Bruce... honestly your improvement has been great since we last encountered you. I can tell you that during our time out there we did not use spies, or anything of the such. Thats my word, and I know its hard to "believe" but it is the truth.
WildCat
You say this, while your corp mate posts full first post of (probably) BRUCE forums quotes? That sounds bit odd, doesnt it?
Also, are you still doing the "I heroically sit in cloak whole day and pop ratters / haulers with my 2 bn faction ship if theres noone around" tactic which got old 2 years ago or you came with something new this time?
Wow.... that hurt, I guess moving a what was 3-4 bil isk ship through PNQ while local was at 120, and engaging several times outnumbered 20 to 1, and even at their own station 30km, from a carrier..... you know what just watch my movie it'll explain what I do better than I can. Oh and to RK/Smash.... the only people who die to us in BWF are unitelligent idiots that dont watch intel channels? You say this but again watch my movie. Last night, for example we killed 11 of your 30+ gang which had 2 carreirs to remote rep, while losing one hyena. Anyhow I am putting the final touches on the movie and I hope that it will prove that I talk a lot of sh*t, Burn Eden however can back it up ten fold.
Watch the movie and then if you feel you can smack me again, then have at it.
WildCat
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Plaetean
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 15:25:00 -
[87]
Nice as always, but looking forward to seeing the smashkill campaign results already! |
Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.23 15:28:00 -
[88]
Edited by: *****zilla on 23/04/2008 15:29:44
Originally by: DHB WildCat Watch the movie and then if you feel you can smack me again, then have at it.
Hmmmm, a challenge.
You couldn't kill the other 20+ in that gang? I'm sure a top tier pvp alliance could have killed that entire gang including the carriers! And done so using only a solo velator! Don't tell me you lost a Hyena to smashkill.. Did the pilot fall asleep?
Originally by: Plaetean Nice as always, but looking forward to seeing the smashkill campaign results already!
They're on track to get 1500-1600 kills if they stay there a month. Expected more to be honest.
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WishBlade
Caldari Atomic Heroes Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.23 15:53:00 -
[89]
*ignorant post in "Big Whoop" thread with //care intentions* |
Asuka Smith
Gallente StarHunt Fallout Project
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Posted - 2008.04.23 16:26:00 -
[90]
BE talk a lot of **** but they are never caught frontin'
Mad props to my favourite celebrities (Wild Cat and Shin Ra, nice to see you in BE again BTW)
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.23 16:57:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Kastar This game has spiraled so much down I can't even commence to describe.
What the hell happened if someone can lay the guns on some other party and immediately reveal what is being said on the victim's boards ?
I'd say fight your fight and treat it like a game. Why always the spying and wtf... don't people have other stuff to do ?
Credit where its due: Helen from CORA. gave us all the quotes. During our whole time in Fountain we never had one spy/alt in BRUCE or any other alliance. We got the occasional snipper from Helen, but that was it. It was funny to hear how paranoid BRUCE were though
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.23 16:57:00 -
[92]
Originally by: *****zilla
Hmmmm, a challenge.
You couldn't kill the other 20+ in that gang? I'm sure a top tier pvp alliance could have killed that entire gang including the carriers! And done so using only a solo velator! Don't tell me you lost a Hyena to smashkill.. Did the pilot fall asleep?
They're on track to get 1500-1600 kills if they stay there a month. Expected more to be honest.
lmao YOU DIDNT KILL US ALL YOU SUCK!
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.23 17:02:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Garia666 altough your tactics are effective they dont make em very much fun ;)
anyway gratz on stats..
It all depends what you think fun is. Most people would say we camp gates cloaked and gank macro miners. The truth is vastly different. While we do gank a fair few haulers/miners/npcers we also embarrass fleet commanders by fighting ridiculously outnumbered (more than ANYONE else in this game does) and still winning convincingly. There is nobody else in any other corp or alliance that fights outnumbered as much or as well as we do. Now, in order to do this we obviously will not stand toe to toe with a vastly bigger fleet. If the F1-8 game is fun for you, then thats great - keep on doing it. But out thinking and out smarting everyone else is what we do and it is fun. You also have to remember that we do not mine/mission/npc hunt at all and all our income comes from PVP, so there will always be some boring points where we are making a lot of money but not getting any proper fights.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.23 17:04:00 -
[94]
Originally by: XxAngelxX You're still a terrible PvPer Shin, also, did you undock this campaign?
I did manage to undock, though only when I was sure the enemy didn't have a handful of Ruptures ready to embarrass me.
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Elendar
The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 17:45:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Anyway, Smash/Roadkill you are next.
Bruce, then smashkill
Hard targets indeed! although they might have a few ruptures |
Kery Syander
The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:05:00 -
[96]
<3 BE. Nicely done. -----
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.23 18:21:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Elendar
Originally by: Shin Ra
Anyway, Smash/Roadkill you are next.
Bruce, then smashkill
Hard targets indeed! although they might have a few ruptures
Lotro is that way Legolas
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Two Beans
Sigma Holding Corp GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:26:00 -
[98]
I heard BRUCE likes the MegaTokyo webcomic.
I heard... _____________ His Royal Highness King Two Beans King of CAOD
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Halkin
Locus Solus
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:46:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Viper ****zIe Edited by: Viper ****zIe on 23/04/2008 05:26:38
Oh man, if General Dynasty could spin as well as this guy TRI would still be alive.
EDIT1: That's not meatspin. EDIT2: BRUCE, you won't catch my alt so stop trying to figure out who was logged in at the time.
so you flame darknesss for mentioning tri in a non tri thread... then bring up tri/gd in this be/bruce thread. go figure
Originally by: Elise Randolph Everybody wins when trolls get trolled.
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Helen
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:52:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Kastar This game has spiraled so much down I can't even commence to describe.
What the hell happened if someone can lay the guns on some other party and immediately reveal what is being said on the victim's boards ?
I'd say fight your fight and treat it like a game. Why always the spying and wtf... don't people have other stuff to do ?
Credit where its due: Helen from CORA. gave us all the quotes. During our whole time in Fountain we never had one spy/alt in BRUCE or any other alliance. We got the occasional snipper from Helen, but that was it. It was funny to hear how paranoid BRUCE were though
<3 to bruce your the eve good guys!
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Kery Syander
The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 20:57:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Halkin
Originally by: Viper ****zIe Edited by: Viper ****zIe on 23/04/2008 05:26:38
Oh man, if General Dynasty could spin as well as this guy TRI would still be alive.
EDIT1: That's not meatspin. EDIT2: BRUCE, you won't catch my alt so stop trying to figure out who was logged in at the time.
so you flame darknesss for mentioning tri in a non tri thread... then bring up tri/gd in this be/bruce thread. go figure
did you click the link? 'cause I did and it kinda looks like he's talking about BRUCE here.... -----
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Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.23 21:05:00 -
[102]
so im supposed to send a gang properly fit to stop be and just camp them there. or maybe im going to let the fcs take the gangs to have fun, and ignore burn eden and thier 7334649 bs kills. since stain days they havent changed and since then eve changed where 19000 bs losses doesnt effect crap unless you go for the pos.
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stinger7
eve tutors inc
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Posted - 2008.04.23 21:10:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Peoke so im supposed to send a gang properly fit to stop be and just camp them there. or maybe im going to let the fcs take the gangs to have fun, and ignore burn eden and thier 7334649 bs kills. since stain days they havent changed and since then eve changed where 19000 bs losses doesnt effect crap unless you go for the pos.
Yea god forbid ppl actually play the game for fun and consider developing piloting skills and working well as a team as something worthy to achieve and be measured by k/d ratio's.
We should all be moronic blobbers who play to watch a frozen screen and take space that we will proly never profit from, cos thats smart hey bud?.
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SteroBolic
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.23 21:52:00 -
[104]
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Watch the movie and then if you feel you can smack me again, then have at it.
WildCat
Why don't you just link us a youtube link of "The Mighty Ducks." A movie where they have a lot of heart, but only play against ****ty teams so when they win the championship they can feel good about themselves. Thats how BE rolls isnt it?
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stinger7
eve tutors inc
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Posted - 2008.04.23 22:21:00 -
[105]
Originally by: SteroBolic
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Watch the movie and then if you feel you can smack me again, then have at it.
WildCat
Why don't you just link us a youtube link of "The Mighty Ducks." A movie where they have a lot of heart, but only play against ****ty teams so when they win the championship they can feel good about themselves. Thats how BE rolls isnt it?
Dunno but according to their KB it was pure/hydra/mm then CVA/sylph/pets then bruce/pets/others and now smashkill im told.
Anyway if they only went for the crappy pvpers in eve im sure id see a lot of goons on their KB. |
SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 22:36:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Peoke so im supposed to send a gang properly fit to stop be and just camp them there. or maybe im going to let the fcs take the gangs to have fun, and ignore burn eden and thier 7334649 bs kills. since stain days they havent changed and since then eve changed where 19000 bs losses doesnt effect crap unless you go for the pos.
Dear Muppet,
Here is the problem, we play the game to have fun. We kill stuff, lots of stuff, and then kill some more. Then we take a break, then kill some more stuff, eventually when we get careless enough we die, go get new ships, and then kill more stuff.
You on the other hand, are trying to take over imaginary space, with imaginary stuff that requires no interaction or skill. All that is necessary to accomplish your goal is to bring 200+ of your brainless minions and wait 10 min for module activation. Eventually after several hours of moaning on the forums about lag you either succeed or fail at your goal, most of which is determined by who has less lag.
So to summarize yes we do the exact same thing we did when we first met you guys deep down in Stain, we kill you. And that is all we ever want to do, cause if I am going to spend time building something it will be in my back yard/garage/work not in a game.
Enjoy |
DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.23 22:54:00 -
[107]
Short version of SATAN's post in my words 8)
Enjoy your days / years of building your imaginary empire.... Because I am really going to enjoy my minutes / hours of blowing the sh*t out of it 8).
Yeah SATAN has a better way with words than I.
WildCat |
Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.23 23:06:00 -
[108]
reach to right
stroke
repeat |
thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.23 23:15:00 -
[109]
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Peoke so im supposed to send a gang properly fit to stop be and just camp them there. or maybe im going to let the fcs take the gangs to have fun, and ignore burn eden and thier 7334649 bs kills. since stain days they havent changed and since then eve changed where 19000 bs losses doesnt effect crap unless you go for the pos.
Dear Muppet,
Here is the problem, we play the game to have fun. We kill stuff, lots of stuff, and then kill some more. Then we take a break, then kill some more stuff, eventually when we get careless enough we die, go get new ships, and then kill more stuff.
You on the other hand, are trying to take over imaginary space, with imaginary stuff that requires no interaction or skill. All that is necessary to accomplish your goal is to bring 200+ of your brainless minions and wait 10 min for module activation. Eventually after several hours of moaning on the forums about lag you either succeed or fail at your goal, most of which is determined by who has less lag.
So to summarize yes we do the exact same thing we did when we first met you guys deep down in Stain, we kill you. And that is all we ever want to do, cause if I am going to spend time building something it will be in my back yard/garage/work not in a game.
Enjoy
ITT ppl are arguing if "killing" imaginary stuff is better than "trying to take over" other imaginary stuff..
quality.. ------------------
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 23:24:00 -
[110]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Peoke so im supposed to send a gang properly fit to stop be and just camp them there. or maybe im going to let the fcs take the gangs to have fun, and ignore burn eden and thier 7334649 bs kills. since stain days they havent changed and since then eve changed where 19000 bs losses doesnt effect crap unless you go for the pos.
Dear Muppet,
Here is the problem, we play the game to have fun. We kill stuff, lots of stuff, and then kill some more. Then we take a break, then kill some more stuff, eventually when we get careless enough we die, go get new ships, and then kill more stuff.
You on the other hand, are trying to take over imaginary space, with imaginary stuff that requires no interaction or skill. All that is necessary to accomplish your goal is to bring 200+ of your brainless minions and wait 10 min for module activation. Eventually after several hours of moaning on the forums about lag you either succeed or fail at your goal, most of which is determined by who has less lag.
So to summarize yes we do the exact same thing we did when we first met you guys deep down in Stain, we kill you. And that is all we ever want to do, cause if I am going to spend time building something it will be in my back yard/garage/work not in a game.
Enjoy
ITT ppl are arguing if "killing" imaginary stuff is better than "trying to take over" other imaginary stuff..
quality..
Not making any such argument.
My point is we kill stuff to have fun, we play eve to have fun, we do everything related to eve for fun unless your idea of fun is to deal with lag. In either case kill/build only winner is CCP, but at least we have no illusions of an ultimate goal to universal domination in a video game.
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Arondor
Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.04.23 23:35:00 -
[111]
much respect to BE
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Angor
The JORG Corporation Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.23 23:36:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Angor on 23/04/2008 23:41:49
Originally by: *****zilla Edited by: *****zilla on 23/04/2008 15:29:44
Originally by: DHB WildCat Watch the movie and then if you feel you can smack me again, then have at it.
Hmmmm, a challenge.
You couldn't kill the other 20+ in that gang? I'm sure a top tier pvp alliance could have killed that entire gang including the carriers! And done so using only a solo velator! Don't tell me you lost a Hyena to smashkill.. Did the pilot fall asleep?
Originally by: Plaetean Nice as always, but looking forward to seeing the smashkill campaign results already!
They're on track to get 1500-1600 kills if they stay there a month. Expected more to be honest.
I iz da hyena pilot in da op. I blamez the boobiez on tv
It amazes me how bitter ppl are to BE's tactics "you havent changed in years" thing is cos if it aint broke dont fix it. Tactics that still work why not use them. Just a matter of adapting to the CCP nerfs. Compaired to 2-3 yrs ago tho you guys have never had it easier but yet u still complain about being ganked by them. What else do u want, a jump bridge system directly fron jita so u guys have no risk? come on. _______________________________ [ 2007.06.07 21:07:22 ] FrankyWave > ransom me guys I am joining XElas !!! |
thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.23 23:37:00 -
[113]
Originally by: SATAN Not making any such argument.
My point is we kill stuff to have fun, we play eve to have fun, we do everything related to eve for fun unless your idea of fun is to deal with lag. In either case kill/build only winner is CCP, but at least we have no illusions of an ultimate goal to universal domination in a video game.
Instead of a goal of shooting a ship in a video game?
He has fun his way, you have it yours.. his is no more wrong than yours.. ------------------
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mishkof
Caldari Dirty Denizens
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Posted - 2008.04.23 23:44:00 -
[114]
Posting in a "we will dominate your internet spaceship" BE thread.
Nice stats as always BTW.
I own a T2 BPO and Capital alt, therefor all of my views will be pro-Capital Alt/T2 BPO orientated. Please pick one of the following settings for your response. []hate me []troll me []smack me |
schneirder
Viziam
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Posted - 2008.04.23 23:52:00 -
[115]
The only thing wrong with BE's tactics is WildCat's ******** text color. <3
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 00:15:00 -
[116]
Originally by: schneirder The only thing wrong with BE's tactics is WildCat's ******** text color. <3
This is very true 8). However I have had this color for over a year, and nothing makes me smile more than people *****ing about it 8). lol
Love or hate my color, I will still blow you out of the sky 8P
WildCat
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Rainoer
Amarr Esoteria Liberation Front
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Posted - 2008.04.24 01:43:00 -
[117]
Just curious BE, What would your kill ratio be against PL?
How long could you sustain a campaign against the Red Alliance.
Not trying to start something, just curious how well you think you would do against those alliances.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 01:53:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Rainoer Just curious BE, What would your kill ratio be against PL?
How long could you sustain a campaign against the Red Alliance.
Not trying to start something, just curious how well you think you would do against those alliances.
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My opinion only not Burn Edens...... It would be hard for me to fight PL, a group of great guys and besides Shamis is pretty much my neighbor. Hi shamis 0/
Against RA- well I have never seen an RA member in something other than a capital ship. Its hard for 4 BS to kill a mom, or titan. However if you keep a close eye on us, you'll see how we do against their pets when we squish da beez.
WildCat
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SteroBolic
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.24 02:21:00 -
[119]
However if you keep a close eye on us, you'll see how we do against their pets when we squish da beez.
WildCat
So, how long are we gonna be waiting in delve for you****s to show up? And I guess as long as were roleplaying I should say I cant wait to pop you like the zit you are with my stinger.
/signed
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Shinori
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.24 02:44:00 -
[120]
Originally by: SteroBolic
However if you keep a close eye on us, you'll see how we do against their pets when we squish da beez.
WildCat
So, how long are we gonna be waiting in delve for you****s to show up?
Nah man, that's not how it works, they gonna do selective engagement and mostly kill solo ratters in carebear space, all awhile imagining their tactics and skills are any better than those just using nanos v0v
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Adirawin
Gallente Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.24 02:48:00 -
[121]
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Love or hate my color, I will still blow you out of the sky 8P
WildCat
We're in space - not in the sky :(
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 03:06:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Adirawin
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Love or hate my color, I will still blow you out of the sky 8P
WildCat
We're in space - not in the sky :(
Im sorry my role playing skills are sub-par at best. Can we agree we'll just beat you? That'll work 8)
WildCat
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oodin
The IMorral MAjority Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.04.24 03:18:00 -
[123]
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Peoke so im supposed to send a gang properly fit to stop be and just camp them there. or maybe im going to let the fcs take the gangs to have fun, and ignore burn eden and thier 7334649 bs kills. since stain days they havent changed and since then eve changed where 19000 bs losses doesnt effect crap unless you go for the pos.
Dear Muppet,
Here is the problem, we play the game to have fun. We kill stuff, lots of stuff, and then kill some more. Then we take a break, then kill some more stuff, eventually when we get careless enough we die, go get new ships, and then kill more stuff.
You on the other hand, are trying to take over imaginary space, with imaginary stuff that requires no interaction or skill. All that is necessary to accomplish your goal is to bring 200+ of your brainless minions and wait 10 min for module activation. Eventually after several hours of moaning on the forums about lag you either succeed or fail at your goal, most of which is determined by who has less lag.
So to summarize yes we do the exact same thing we did when we first met you guys deep down in Stain, we kill you. And that is all we ever want to do, cause if I am going to spend time building something it will be in my back yard/garage/work not in a game.
Enjoy
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oodin
The IMorral MAjority Imorral Dragons
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Posted - 2008.04.24 03:24:00 -
[124]
and i have to disagree with the name of this post..bruce are mighty,they are mighty in the way that they will bring it (tha blob yes but they are alot of industrials) they dont smack in general like most big alliances in eve do and theire noobs come onto forum thanking you guys for what they learned during your campaign against them and welcomes you back in the future..
just wait for bwf local chat
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.24 03:38:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Rainoer Just curious BE, What would your kill ratio be against PL?
How long could you sustain a campaign against the Red Alliance.
Not trying to start something, just curious how well you think you would do against those alliances.
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We have fought Red Alliance and AAA many times before in one form or another, results have always been the same. Unfortunately the old Killboard we used was shut down, and our campaigns with them.
Far as other groups like PL/Outbreak go, I guess we will not know until we fight.
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Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.24 03:53:00 -
[126]
the last time i saw BE in action was when they were hunting ra in the nrael pipe and into cache, i don't think the results were much different.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 07:04:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Graalum the last time i saw BE in action was when they were hunting ra in the nrael pipe and into cache, i don't think the results were much different.
The first time we fought RA, there was a damp stacking nerf so we were using multispecs on our ravens, and we STILL raped RA. Harder than most alliances (well except Big Blue), but they got a pounding. RA are no different to any other alliance. In fact, they are pretty average.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.24 07:43:00 -
[128]
Originally by: thoth foc ITT ppl are arguing if "killing" imaginary stuff is better than "trying to take over" other imaginary stuff..
quality..
ITT someone trying to sound witty by acting nonchalent about the game (whilst posting on their forums)
quality..
Also, GJ BE.
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Knocturnal
omen. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.24 07:48:00 -
[129]
Edited by: Knocturnal on 24/04/2008 07:48:08
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: thoth foc ITT ppl are arguing if "killing" imaginary stuff is better than "trying to take over" other imaginary stuff..
quality..
ITT someone trying to sound witty by acting nonchalent about the game (whilst posting on their forums)
quality..
Also, GJ BE.
/me hugz Suas ... `sup honey ?:)
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.24 09:57:00 -
[130]
Edited by: thoth foc on 24/04/2008 09:57:34
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: thoth foc ITT ppl are arguing if "killing" imaginary stuff is better than "trying to take over" other imaginary stuff..
quality..
ITT someone trying to sound witty by acting nonchalent about the game (whilst posting on their forums)
quality..
I will conceed, posting on a game's forum makes it quite serious business.. obviously..
If you need it simplified, it was a critic of the quality of arguement.. the arguement basically amounted to "Your way of having fun is not my way of having fun, so it isnt fun".. BE are prolly one of the best groups at what they do.. but that doesnt make their opinions of "what is fun" global to everyone..
besides, i'm in BOB i cant be playing a game just for fun.. amirite? ------------------
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Kuolematon Rakentaja
Space Perverts Technologies
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Posted - 2008.04.24 11:09:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Shin Ra Anyway, Smash/Roadkill you are next.
WHAT?! No way!! We are working on them. You stay away!!! _______________________________________________ My main account Unnerf amarr!! |
Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.24 12:06:00 -
[132]
Edited by: Needa3 on 24/04/2008 12:08:16
Originally by: Shinori
Nah man, that's not how it works, they gonna do selective engagement and mostly kill solo ratters in carebear space, all awhile imagining their tactics and skills are any better than those just using nanos v0v
typically a goon to say that. If you would know anything about Burn Eden than it's the fact that they engage the enemy even if the odds are 10 vs 1 TI is pvp like it's supposed to be. Win a fight due to skills and tactics, not by blobbing a system and hope you'll end up with more ships than the enemy |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.24 12:35:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Needa3
Originally by: Shinori
Nah man, that's not how it works, they gonna do selective engagement and mostly kill solo ratters in carebear space, all awhile imagining their tactics and skills are any better than those just using nanos v0v
typically a goon to say that. If you would know anything about Burn Eden than it's the fact that they engage the enemy even if the odds are 10 vs 1 TI is pvp like it's supposed to be. Win a fight due to skills and tactics, not by blobbing a system and hope you'll end up with more ships than the enemy
/signed
Goons are so adamant about not caring about ship losses, respect or k/d ratio's but they are some of the first to try to discredit others achievements in those areas.
I suppose sucking at virtually every aspect of the game (apart from blobbing, although the crying for the next titan nerf makes them suck at that as well now) and being unwilling to even try to improve or excel at anything because of a rather pathetic fear of fail makes them rather bitter about other achievements.
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Shensai
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Posted - 2008.04.24 12:48:00 -
[134]
Nice stats and all that, but I'd be much more impressed if BE had actually attacked one of the alliances that are supposed to be good at PVP. BRUCE mostly have no SP requirements on new members, there is literally hundreds of 'noobs' in that alliance for you to gank, for a dedicated PVP corp, it's not that impressive... Would like to see how well BE would do against real PVP alliance.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.24 12:57:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Shensai Nice stats and all that, but I'd be much more impressed if BE had actually attacked one of the alliances that are supposed to be good at PVP. BRUCE mostly have no SP requirements on new members, there is literally hundreds of 'noobs' in that alliance for you to gank, for a dedicated PVP corp, it's not that impressive... Would like to see how well BE would do against real PVP alliance.
Any chance of making a list of "real" pvp alliances as maybe they have already fought them.
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Siegemos
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Posted - 2008.04.24 13:24:00 -
[136]
Ok, here's a list: obviously just my opinion but alliances that I personally rate highly for PVP are:
Tri Bob NOTR EVOKE CRY HAVOC Pandemic Legion KIA Alliance
Would like to see BE stats in a campaign against any of them but I doubt I will, they'll probably stick to blob alliances like BRUCE, smash and goonswarm.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.24 13:37:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Siegemos Ok, here's a list: obviously just my opinion but alliances that I personally rate highly for PVP are:
Tri Bob NOTR EVOKE CRY HAVOC Pandemic Legion KIA Alliance
Would like to see BE stats in a campaign against any of them but I doubt I will, they'll probably stick to blob alliances like BRUCE, smash and goonswarm.
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Siegemos
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Posted - 2008.04.24 14:00:00 -
[138]
AFAIK they haven't fought these guys (but that doesn't mean they haven't). If they have, I'd like to see the stats.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying BE aren't good PVPers, I would just like to see them up against an alliance that also professes to being awesome at PVP (unlike BRUCE, who to my knowledge have never gone around claiming they are PVP gods).
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Draconiss
Gallente Little Blue Pill
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Posted - 2008.04.24 14:03:00 -
[139]
Dont know why ya`ll smacking BE they Play EVE on there terms and have fun doing it.......I mean this is a game afterall its supposed to be fun.
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.24 14:22:00 -
[140]
Most eve players do not want to copy the Burn Eden style of playing this game, because they think, it is lame and boring. It is only about gank. BE avoid pvp with the risk of losing a ship or even a POS like the plague. Forward scout, rear scout, sniping position, NPC alts, cloaks on all ships etc.etc. BE will never convince any large group of Eve players about their way of playing the game. It is no fun.
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.04.24 14:37:00 -
[141]
Originally by: blue strigoy It is no fun.
And this is the reason they do what they do best. (Have fun)
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Ohne
Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.24 14:54:00 -
[142]
Originally by: blue strigoy It is no fun.
Wrong.
****ting in peoples backyards is awesome, specially when said people cant do anything to prevent it. They just end up cleaning **** all day long.
Its awesome.
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.24 15:06:00 -
[143]
If you think it is fun, why do you not copy it?
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 15:11:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Siegemos Ok, here's a list: obviously just my opinion but alliances that I personally rate highly for PVP are:
Tri Bob NOTR EVOKE CRY HAVOC Pandemic Legion KIA Alliance
Would like to see BE stats in a campaign against any of them but I doubt I will, they'll probably stick to blob alliances like BRUCE, smash and goonswarm.
The main reason you probably cannot find much stats with us against many of these entities is do to our play style. We try to find a system with an EXTREME traffic rate. We let our targets come to us. That way they cant log off like pansys when we jump into system.
Systems like HED-GP, P3E , M-O, N-CREAL, BWF. This is where we spend our time. Those entites are great small gang roaming groups that wreak havoc on the larger powers like we do.
Alliances you can find campagins of ours against include..... RA AAA BOB MM HYDRA PURE
these just to name a few.
WildCat
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.24 15:28:00 -
[145]
Originally by: blue strigoy Most eve players do not want to copy the Burn Eden style of playing this game, because they think, it is lame and boring. It is only about gank. BE avoid pvp with the risk of losing a ship or even a POS like the plague. Forward scout, rear scout, sniping position, NPC alts, cloaks on all ships etc.etc. BE will never convince any large group of Eve players about their way of playing the game. It is no fun.
I dont particularly agree with this statement, this might be what most players tell themselves, but in reality most players couldnt survive in 0.0 outside big groups.. it is just convenient they dont like a style they cant do.. ------------------
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Siegemos
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Posted - 2008.04.24 15:31:00 -
[146]
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Originally by: Siegemos Ok, here's a list: obviously just my opinion but alliances that I personally rate highly for PVP are:
Tri Bob NOTR EVOKE CRY HAVOC Pandemic Legion KIA Alliance
Would like to see BE stats in a campaign against any of them but I doubt I will, they'll probably stick to blob alliances like BRUCE, smash and goonswarm.
The main reason you probably cannot find much stats with us against many of these entities is do to our play style. We try to find a system with an EXTREME traffic rate. We let our targets come to us. That way they cant log off like pansys when we jump into system.
Systems like HED-GP, P3E , M-O, N-CREAL, BWF. This is where we spend our time. Those entites are great small gang roaming groups that wreak havoc on the larger powers like we do.
Alliances you can find campagins of ours against include..... RA AAA BOB MM HYDRA PURE
these just to name a few.
WildCat
Fair enough. How did you do against BOB? (perhaps before my time). Also, where can I get hold of your video?
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.24 15:36:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Siegemos Fair enough. How did you do against BOB? (perhaps before my time). Also, where can I get hold of your video?
iirc they did ok, until we adapted (which took about 3 days I think, I can't do a search for Burn Eden on our kb atm :/) and then they left, wasn't more than a week in BoB space?
(memory is hazy on times, I'm sure the BE guys will have a better idea from their kb). Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.24 15:37:00 -
[148]
Originally by: thoth foc I dont particularly agree with this statement, this might be what most players tell themselves, but in reality most players couldnt survive in 0.0 outside big groups.. it is just convenient they dont like a style they cant do..
If it is all so funny and cool, why don't you do it as a skilled player? Why you miss so much fun?
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Morris Falter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.24 15:45:00 -
[149]
<3 burn eden, great players.
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 15:55:00 -
[150]
One engagement with AAA for stat***** junkies.... clicky
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:02:00 -
[151]
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: thoth foc I dont particularly agree with this statement, this might be what most players tell themselves, but in reality most players couldnt survive in 0.0 outside big groups.. it is just convenient they dont like a style they cant do..
If it is all so funny and cool, why don't you do it as a skilled player? Why you miss so much fun?
I have done it before thanks.. and am planning to do it again soon now that the coalition is pretty much down to goonies sitting docked in 319.. ------------------
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:07:00 -
[152]
Originally by: thoth foc I have done it before thanks.. and am planning to do it again soon now that the coalition is pretty much down to goonies sitting docked in 319..
You fought like Burn Eden with polycarb-sniper-cloak-raven/npc-alt-tackle? Proof?
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Heinky
Amarr The Collective
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:10:00 -
[153]
ps:How the hell did u loose 6 bs,s without me and troll beeing there?
Gj as always
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:15:00 -
[154]
hey do you guys ever go to q-t q-t is boring all i do there is mine gtcs all day
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:16:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Siegemos Fair enough. How did you do against BOB? (perhaps before my time). Also, where can I get hold of your video?
iirc they did ok, until we adapted (which took about 3 days I think, I can't do a search for Burn Eden on our kb atm :/) and then they left, wasn't more than a week in BoB space?
(memory is hazy on times, I'm sure the BE guys will have a better idea from their kb).
Diana is correct here.... we didnt stick around very long. It was in our "hey lets make an alliance" idea, and tbh I think I was the only active BE member for most of "our" time down there. So I can really only give you my stats from a weeks worth of work.
31 kills including 1 chimera, 1 nightmare... mothership in 1/4 armor, ugh it was so close. and one of the best and most fun 1 vs 1 I ever had deimos vs deimos.... great fight Fire59. And survived a hotdrop by shrike on my mach 8P. 5 pos kills - this was done while flying with Shamis and Pandemic Legion.
I lost 2 Ships.... 1 deimos and 1 raven.
WildCat
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:18:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Heinky ps:How the hell did u loose 6 bs,s without me and troll beeing there?
Gj as always
Wildcat was pulling an insurancejob... And Kick didnt like his Widow....
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:22:00 -
[157]
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: thoth foc I have done it before thanks.. and am planning to do it again soon now that the coalition is pretty much down to goonies sitting docked in 319..
You fought like Burn Eden with polycarb-sniper-cloak-raven/npc-alt-tackle? Proof?
You show an excellent understanding of pvp.. you are a mission runner i assume? ------------------
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Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:27:00 -
[158]
Edited by: Needa3 on 24/04/2008 16:29:04
Originally by: blue strigoy Most eve players do not want to copy the Burn Eden style of playing this game, because they think, it is lame and boring. It is only about gank. BE avoid pvp with the risk of losing a ship or even a POS like the plague. Forward scout, rear scout, sniping position, NPC alts, cloaks on all ships etc.etc. BE will never convince any large group of Eve players about their way of playing the game. It is no fun.
i see your point but i have to disagree. I had the honour to be in TI for a while. Not BE but TI for a starter. I had my differences with Kick but in all honesty he and the rest of BE are uber pvpers. 1 day flying with them was worth more day months of eve before. You are other may find their way of flying boring and lame. Myself and a few of my corpmates like the way they fly. It's different but it's more effective than every other type of pvp i've seen so far. That BE can't convince any other group to pew pew the way they do it... i don't think BE gives a **** about it. If other groups don't wanna fight that way... their loss i would say.
i'm by far not as good as even the crappiest player in their corp, fact is they remain very effective and they have a killboard to prove it. BE/ TI will always have my uttermost respect for the way they pvp in the game.
it's effective, it's thrilling, it's fun and imo TI is the best pvp in the game
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:30:00 -
[159]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: blue strigoy
You show an excellent understanding of pvp.. you are a mission runner i assume?
Sometimes. Why you thought? You are a mission runner, too? (What is with your proof?)
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:33:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Needa3 Edited by: Needa3 on 24/04/2008 16:29:04That BE can't convince any other group to pew pew the way they do it... i don't think BE gives a **** about it.
If they do not give a **** about the rest of the community, why do they then post here?
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:33:00 -
[161]
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: thoth foc
You show an excellent understanding of pvp.. you are a mission runner i assume?
Sometimes. Why you thought?
because even i had difficultly highlighting just how stupid your questions were.. (even for CAOD) ------------------
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:40:00 -
[162]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: thoth foc
You show an excellent understanding of pvp.. you are a mission runner i assume?
Sometimes. Why you thought?
because even i had difficultly highlighting just how stupid your questions were.. (even for CAOD)
You think, you are clever. You have no proof of what you said. You do not answer my questions. How mean! Now you pretend, my questions are stupid, but you still answer. Go on.
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:50:00 -
[163]
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: Needa3 Edited by: Needa3 on 24/04/2008 16:29:04That BE can't convince any other group to pew pew the way they do it... i don't think BE gives a **** about it.
If they do not give a **** about the rest of the community, why do they then post here?
Cause it`s fun?
And btw, stop destroying my e-honour... I might quit eve.
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.24 16:56:00 -
[164]
Originally by: TZeer
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: Needa3 Edited by: Needa3 on 24/04/2008 16:29:04That BE can't convince any other group to pew pew the way they do it... i don't think BE gives a **** about it.
If they do not give a **** about the rest of the community, why do they then post here?
Cause it`s fun?
And btw, stop destroying my e-honour... I might quit eve.
I have fun here, too. It is nice to talk with you guys.
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.24 21:33:00 -
[165]
Originally by: blue strigoy Most eve players do not want to copy the Burn Eden style of playing this game, because they think, it is lame and boring. It is only about gank. BE avoid pvp with the risk of losing a ship or even a POS like the plague. Forward scout, rear scout, sniping position, NPC alts, cloaks on all ships etc.etc. BE will never convince any large group of Eve players about their way of playing the game. It is no fun.
I would say you are very wrong regarding this statement, the majority of EvE pvp has been heading towards our fighting style since we started doing what we do. Even with all the nerfs and mechanic's changes to what we do even CCP acknowledges that our fighting style is what people want.
For example...
Remember all the use of the warp core stabs on pvp ships? Who do you think started all of that?
Sensor damps, remember when everyone and their Mom started using them? Who do you think was the ones they learned from?
How about the use of cloaking devices on mass scale? Who do you think people are copying when they fly around in pvp ships with cloaks on?
The creation of several new ship classes that are DESIGNED to fight like we do, except that CCP wants 20 people to do what we do with 3, recon/force recon, black ops anyone?
Honestly I can list many many more ways that you are wrong but why bother you will just come back with some sort of reply that makes no sense.
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Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.24 21:36:00 -
[166]
Quote:
How about the use of cloaking devices on mass scale? Who do you think people are copying when they fly around in pvp ships with cloaks on?
Maybe you started cloaking but black ops happen to be named after us. What do you guys have named after you? Nothing.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.24 23:08:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Equin
Quote:
How about the use of cloaking devices on mass scale? Who do you think people are copying when they fly around in pvp ships with cloaks on?
Maybe you started cloaking but black ops happen to be named after us. What do you guys have named after you? Nothing.
Talk to the statue cause the face aint listening.
Oh no you di unt!
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 00:15:00 -
[168]
Edited by: DHB WildCat on 25/04/2008 00:15:01
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Equin
Quote:
How about the use of cloaking devices on mass scale? Who do you think people are copying when they fly around in pvp ships with cloaks on?
Maybe you started cloaking but black ops happen to be named after us. What do you guys have named after you? Nothing.
Talk to the statue cause the face aint listening.
Oh no you di unt!
I see what you did there 8).
Squish da beeeez WildCat
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ZenTex
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.25 00:29:00 -
[169]
It's true. Noone ever fitted weapons on their ships until BE did, and then we all copied them.
True story.
There's little a sledgehammer can't fix. If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer. If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
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Ditchdoctor
Minmatar Shadows of the Dead
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Posted - 2008.04.25 00:39:00 -
[170]
I love this post. You guys sit on a gate with cloaked ships and gank people. Have a cookie. It isnt that hard to do and there is little at stake.
Tbh bragging about your stats against Bruce is like ganking a covetor with a bs and posting gf in local.
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 00:53:00 -
[171]
Edited by: TZeer on 25/04/2008 00:53:30
Originally by: Ditchdoctor I love this post. You guys sit on a gate with cloaked ships and gank people. Have a cookie. It isnt that hard to do and there is little at stake.
Tbh bragging about your stats against Bruce is like ganking a covetor with a bs and posting gf in local.
Are you bitter? ?????
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John Donnerjack
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.25 05:10:00 -
[172]
I find the "quotes" from BRUCEs at the beginning to be top quality. Only too bad I missed the fights, RL school be damned.
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Tekka
Caldari COBRA INC Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.25 07:12:00 -
[173]
Credit where credit is due, I like BE style. Good luck with your next campaign.
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Straife
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.25 07:27:00 -
[174]
Man BE, how come the Brucefs come running to your thread but keep running away from chatting with us. Teach me your ways of the gab.
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Tekka
Caldari COBRA INC Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.25 07:41:00 -
[175]
Well Straife if PL changes its tactics to something other than nanoboringsamethingoverandoveragain then I'll drop by and give you some special love too
I'm not smacking PL you're good at what you do, just bored of the whole nano thing, try something new.
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Atij
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2008.04.25 07:45:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Straife Man BE, how come the Brucefs come running to your thread but keep running away from chatting with us. Teach me your ways of the gab.
BE is better at foreplay.
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Tekka
Caldari COBRA INC Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.25 07:49:00 -
[177]
It's true, their foreplay is top notch and they actually made traveling through 9-v exciting. I miss them.
/sniff
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Zaethiel
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.25 08:04:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Princess Guard
Originally by: Minokou Id like to add that we need to have a permanent bruce cleanup squad in burn eden occupied systems to pop the wrecks before they get to them, then cloak back up. I feel this will be our greatest and most effective combat tactic to date.
mo that should generally be considered if we can't hold the field. I'd like to take credit for popping 98% of all friendly wrecks in 75FA (cap loss op), and I hope that in the last minutes of the fight after I was down someone else did that.
I loled, that is so BRUCE. 90% of all BRUCE that come to Deklein are cloakers some even fit WCS with their cloaks. GL with Smash, they don't blob as well as BRUCE, but their individual members aren't as bad; though thats not saying much. -----
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.25 08:37:00 -
[179]
Originally by: SATAN lots of we are the best of the best of the best blabla
I would never be proud on using exessively game mechanics, which CCP tried to rebalance. That shows only, how lame you are. Nano BS, sensor damps, didnt CCP also talk about nerving cloaks? Believe me, they did it not, because of you. You are only 1,2,3 attention *****s. You hear somewhere of an imbalance in teh game and you start to use it.
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Lemptie
Gallente Glass House
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Posted - 2008.04.25 09:19:00 -
[180]
All those cloakers are making this game un-fun.You guys are most of the time afk ,playing wow,In the mean time there are alot guys sitting at a gate and wait and wait wait wait wait wait waiting ......wait ,,,,wait 2 hours 3 5 7 10 12 24 thinking not fun hell this is 0.0 ..hmm why i play this game ,,,wait wait wait better go to empire ,,yeah
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 09:29:00 -
[181]
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: SATAN lots of we are the best of the best of the best blabla
I would never be proud on using exessively game mechanics, which CCP tried to rebalance. That shows only, how lame you are. Nano BS, sensor damps, didnt CCP also talk about nerving cloaks? Believe me, they did it not, because of you. You are only 1,2,3 attention *****s. You hear somewhere of an imbalance in teh game and you start to use it.
In case you didnt know, nanostuff on BS got nerfed not long ago... oh, same with damps... umm shouldn`t we be dead and burried by now?
Quote: All those cloakers are making this game un-fun.You guys are most of the time afk ,playing wow,In the mean time there are alot guys sitting at a gate and wait and wait wait wait wait wait waiting ......wait ,,,,wait 2 hours 3 5 7 10 12 24 thinking not fun hell this is 0.0 ..hmm why i play this game ,,,wait wait wait better go to empire ,,yeah
If we are that much afk, I wonder how all thoose kills end up on our killboard then, it must be magic
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Straife
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.25 10:25:00 -
[182]
Edited by: Straife on 25/04/2008 10:26:18
Originally by: Tekka Well Straife if PL changes its tactics to something other than nanoboringsamethingoverandoveragain then I'll drop by and give you some special love too
I'm not smacking PL you're good at what you do, just bored of the whole nano thing, try something new.
Hmm I must be looking at some other ships than what we fly most of the time then, because if you look at your own killboard you would notice that most of our ships have no speed mods besides a mwd...
PS - Sorry for a derail BE, was nice working with you guys down in Delve and running into DHBs CNR again up in Fountain.
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.25 10:26:00 -
[183]
Originally by: TZeer In case you didnt know, nanostuff on BS got nerfed not long ago... oh, same with damps... umm shouldn`t we be dead and burried by now?
you still use imbalanced game mechanics instead of filing a bug report and let it be.
Quote:
If we are that much afk, I wonder how all thoose kills end up on our killboard then, it must be magic
You sit around for hours and hours afk. Ganked ships die within seconds. Everybody knows that. Other players kill also lots of ships and do not all the posing like you do. You take in your engagements no risks of losing a ship. No risk, no fun. That is why other players do not copy your style. You are boring, it is boring what you do.
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Straife
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.25 10:30:00 -
[184]
Originally by: blue strigoy That is why other players do not copy your style. You are boring, it is boring what you do.
The tears are strong in this one, BE you really need to find him and collect the bucket full that you must of caused him to cry out.
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.25 10:45:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Straife The tears are strong in this one, BE you really need to find him and collect the bucket full that you must of caused him to cry out.
Sry, if I have to disappoint you.
Trust me. I am a BE npc alt. My intention is to push that thread back on page 1 of CAOD. Without me, it would disappear too fast from page 1.
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 10:46:00 -
[186]
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: TZeer In case you didnt know, nanostuff on BS got nerfed not long ago... oh, same with damps... umm shouldn`t we be dead and burried by now?
you still use imbalanced game mechanics instead of filing a bug report and let it be.
Quote:
If we are that much afk, I wonder how all thoose kills end up on our killboard then, it must be magic
You sit around for hours and hours afk. Ganked ships die within seconds. Everybody knows that. Other players kill also lots of ships and do not all the posing like you do. You take in your engagements no risks of losing a ship. No risk, no fun. That is why other players do not copy your style. You are boring, it is boring what you do.
And what "imbalanced game mechanics" would that be?
And regarding risk, dont talk about stuff you have no clue about, just makes you look stupid.
I feel the tears are strong here yes.
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.25 10:49:00 -
[187]
what is your definition of risk? I think that might be the problem, why you think, you risk something and I think you dont.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.25 12:42:00 -
[188]
Originally by: blue strigoy
what is your definition of risk? I think that might be the problem, why you think, you risk something and I think you dont.
How about taking on 30 or 40 ships including capital support and a titan with only 8 ships including tacklers?....is that risk enough or is your troll so pathetic you do not think thats worth respecting?.
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.25 12:48:00 -
[189]
Straife is PL's primary target caller FYI bruce |
blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.25 14:56:00 -
[190]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 12:47:57 titan in my pants
LOL, there was even a Titan? ulala!
how many ships you lost in that oh so risky engagement and how often you did it again? |
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.25 15:00:00 -
[191]
Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 15:03:18
Originally by: blue strigoy
LOL, there was even a Titan? ulala!
how many ships you lost in that oh so risky engagement and how often you did it again?
Here you go bud i think the 2 vigil losses are mentioned on that thread as well, but im sure you will find a way to troll it.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=712677
You must have been bent over royally to be so bitter against BE pal. |
blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.25 15:07:00 -
[192]
Originally by: lecrotta im sure you will find a way to troll it.
why you answer then? Need more attention? I give you more of it. No worries. Also what do you want to proof? You lost 2 vigils? Now, taht was really risky! |
Thelying dutchman
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.25 15:10:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Gneeznow Straife is PL's primary target caller FYI bruce
Gneez I'm disappointed, I thought I was the one you wanted dead
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.25 15:13:00 -
[194]
Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 15:13:47
Originally by: blue strigoy
blah blah worthless troll blah blah
It was risk to take on such a large fleet with so few, it was skill that killed all those ships with such few losses.
So how bad did you get bent over by BE bud are you sill sore?.
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white kight
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2008.04.25 15:17:00 -
[195]
Edited by: white kight on 25/04/2008 15:17:30
Originally by: DHB WildCat
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Equin SATAN > FYI you ****** with the wrong indy, pay back is going to be a *****
Too bad you guys lost all that loot :(.
Don't worry we got most of the expensive stuff back when all 6 of you ran away from my raven.
And that was just 1 indy load, lots more where that came from.
But the good news is you bought you and yours a special package deal when you decided it was a good idea to kill that indy. Our efforts to stay clear from you guys because of past relations was redirected. Get rich and fat, see ya soon.
hehe Squish da beeeeeees! Yeah I decided to hull tank some of BS and jump blindly into 0.0 choke points..... why? Because its fun!
All out of corp loses are accounted for as SATAN stated.
To Bruce... honestly your improvement has been great since we last encountered you. I can tell you that during our time out there we did not use spies, or anything of the such. Thats my word, and I know its hard to "believe" but it is the truth. It was a pleasure playing computer and psychological games with you. I look forward to an even greater challenge in the future.
WildCat
The hull tanked phoon was genius and took us a while to kill. GJ dude.
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.25 15:26:00 -
[196]
Originally by: lecrotta
So how bad did you get bent over by BE bud are you sill sore?.
You try to troll me now. That is really sad ... Your stats sais only 1 thing: you risk almost never anything. No risk, no fun. You gaming style is very boring for the most eve players. Like I said.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.25 15:28:00 -
[197]
Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 15:30:19
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: lecrotta
So how bad did you get bent over by BE bud are you sill sore?.
You try to troll me now. That is really sad ... Your stats sais only 1 thing: you risk almost never anything. No risk, no fun. You gaming style is very boring for the most eve players. Like I said.
So taking on 40 ships including capitals and a titan with only 4 BS and tackle = no risk in your deluded world????.
How much more risk can you ask for than that you silly little troll??????????.
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.25 15:40:00 -
[198]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 15:30:19 I need more and more ?????????? I might be a little emo
Every player, who has no scout alt and jumps in another systems without knowing, what is expecting him, risks more than you etc.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.25 15:45:00 -
[199]
Originally by: blue strigoy
Every player, who has no scout alt and jumps in another systems without knowing, what is expecting him, risks more than you etc.
I think either you are a total moron or your English is so bad that you have no idea about the difference between the words "stupidity" and "risk".
Actually i think it may be both tbh as anybody who jumps through 0.0 gates without a scout or intel is not somebody who is a risk taker he is somebody who is a idiot.
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white kight
Earned In Blood
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Posted - 2008.04.25 15:46:00 -
[200]
aaaah its like being back at school.............fight fight fight
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 16:42:00 -
[201]
Originally by: white kight
The hull tanked phoon was genius and took us a while to kill. GJ dude.
And that is why I dont reinsure them.... it was fun for everyone 8).
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Trinity Trixx
Caldari Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.25 16:55:00 -
[202]
Hey guys.
First I want to say that I've flown alongside you guys and you're decent at what you do.
But come on, to be honest, your tactics are, after x amount of years, boring and boring to read about. I couldn't get past page one as it was reading the same as any other BE Campaign thread.
To boast those kills for BRUCE? You didn't even phase them. That alliance is huge and the number of kills is rather low for a month of killing and an alliance of 3000k+ members.
That coupled with the fact they are an alliance that has a lot of inexperienced players (which consequently join to learn pvp) against players of your experience just tells me you guys are choosing easy targets. Why? Dunno, doesn't matter, but I can't jump on the BE 'good job omguwtfpwn' band wagon until I see you go against the caliber of pvp'ers that you yourselves claim to be.
Disappointed guys, I know you can do better.
<3 to old school BE whom I've flown with
Trin
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 17:13:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Trinity Trixx Hey guys.
First I want to say that I've flown alongside you guys and you're decent at what you do.
But come on, to be honest, your tactics are, after x amount of years, boring and boring to read about. I couldn't get past page one as it was reading the same as any other BE Campaign thread.
To boast those kills for BRUCE? You didn't even phase them. That alliance is huge and the number of kills is rather low for a month of killing and an alliance of 3000k+ members.
That coupled with the fact they are an alliance that has a lot of inexperienced players (which consequently join to learn pvp) against players of your experience just tells me you guys are choosing easy targets. Why? Dunno, doesn't matter, but I can't jump on the BE 'good job omguwtfpwn' band wagon until I see you go against the caliber of pvp'ers that you yourselves claim to be.
Disappointed guys, I know you can do better.
<3 to old school BE whom I've flown with
Trin
Our tactics are the very essence of PVP. That is players fighting against players. Not ships against ships, but minds against minds. And our minds are better. You are confusing tactics with setups. A setup is what you use to leverage tactics. Going fast, or having lots of HP is not a tactic, thats a result of a setup. Being able to damp from 200k, cloak or insta pop frigs is a result of a setup. It will shape, but not ultimately define our tactics. They are defined by the situational awareness and responsiveness which our members continually demonstrate to be superior to all others. That is why we are the best.
You on the other hand, have hit your proverbial glass ceiling and will never get much better because you don't understand this game at all.
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.25 17:35:00 -
[204]
isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.25 17:48:00 -
[205]
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 25/04/2008 15:30:19 I need more and more ?????????? I might be a little emo
Every player, who has no scout alt and jumps in another systems without knowing, what is expecting him, risks more than you etc.
You are a worthless poaster. That said you seem to also confuse bravery/taking risks with stupidity.
Once again you are a worthless poaster, go play with traffic..... thanks k bye
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 17:48:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region
BOB IS better than you.
Our corp has none of the same weaknesses as BOB.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.25 17:54:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Trinity Trixx Hey guys.
First I want to say that I've flown alongside you guys and you're decent at what you do.
But come on, to be honest, your tactics are, after x amount of years, boring and boring to read about. I couldn't get past page one as it was reading the same as any other BE Campaign thread.
To boast those kills for BRUCE? You didn't even phase them. That alliance is huge and the number of kills is rather low for a month of killing and an alliance of 3000k+ members.
That coupled with the fact they are an alliance that has a lot of inexperienced players (which consequently join to learn pvp) against players of your experience just tells me you guys are choosing easy targets. Why? Dunno, doesn't matter, but I can't jump on the BE 'good job omguwtfpwn' band wagon until I see you go against the caliber of pvp'ers that you yourselves claim to be.
Disappointed guys, I know you can do better.
<3 to old school BE whom I've flown with
Trin
I can say this with total confidence. We, the members of BURN EDEN do not reciprocate said feelings of <3. You are one of the main reasons alektorophobia was a colossal failure. You had no idea back then and I suspect you still have close to no clue. But people take you seriously because your a chick and internet spaceships is populated by lonely, sad, single guys.
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.25 17:57:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region
BOB IS better than you.
Our corp has none of the same weaknesses as BOB.
wow
question
does it ever start to sting
from those palms of yours
slapping into your pasty white chest
all day long
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Minokou
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.25 17:57:00 -
[209]
Edited by: Minokou on 25/04/2008 18:00:33
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: Trinity Trixx stuff
That is why we are the best.
You on the other hand, have hit your proverbial glass ceiling and will never get much better because you don't understand this game at all.
It's obvious that you (as in BE) have an excellent understanding of game mechanics, and how to get the very last piece of PvP performance within the limitations of the game.
However, the "we are the best" statement is inherently flawed as there is no common standard of what best means. You ask any number of people, and you will end up with just about as many opinions as to the definition of "best".
You said yourself that it's not about ships, but also about minds. Following that line of thought, different rationales are applied to any action. To some you are the worst griefers in EVE, to some you are the most successful PvPers of all times (not that those two are mutually exclusive). It's just to illustrate the point that "best" is relative.
In terms of BRUCE forum quotes, perhaps you should have had a spy in BRUCE, because they you would see that those quotes are largely taken out of context. What does it mean if in an alliance of 3500+ toons a extremely small percentage complains about cloaking gankers? Sure, someone got upset about losing a ship or five, but hey, that's business as usual in 0.0.
In an alliance of the size of BRUCE, there are literally thousands of "flights" per day. A flight being a person moving from A to B. Over the period of your campaign there were easily over 150,000 successful flights. BE put a sudden end to a few hundred of them.
Yes, those who lost ships were inconvenienced as they had to deal with reimbursement requests and replacement logistics. By and large though the BE campagin wasn't any different than any other cloakers who show up in Fountain. Before BE it was a set of BoB recons, after BE some Goons showed up. That's what life in 0.0 is like and except those who are new to 0.0 everyone knows that since the current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space.
Edit: Forgot to mention that you got the quotes wrong. You quoted me as saying that we should have a permanent clean-up squad, when I was the one who wrote that I popped all the friendly wrecks in 75FA. ;) |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.25 18:05:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Minokou
The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space.
Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory.
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blue strigoy
elite armchair generals
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Posted - 2008.04.25 18:16:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Evil Pookie I am a worthless poaster.
true. Sry, but I see no proof, why you are the best players in eve. How you want to proof that? Most of your play time you sit somewhere cloaked, because it is too dangerous for you out there in eve! An embarrassing ship loss could happen.
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Minokou
The Graduates Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.04.25 18:50:00 -
[212]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Minokou The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space.
Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory.
Well, the discussion about which benefits the upcoming sov levels should bring is for another topic really. Still, given the fact that hostile cloakers can't be removed, and that the cloakers are the one's who choose the time and place of the engagement, it's not surprising that they are able to create any number of losses without many losses of their own.
I can appreciate that someone takes the time to really think game mechanics through, test them out, refine them, and apply them exceedingly well. What I can't appreciate is the sensationalist attitude that follows. BE popped a few hundred ships. So what? The outcome of that campaign couldn't have been any different, neither was it any different than any other BE campaign, nor is it any different than the campaigns of many other cloakers all across EVE.
It's easy to take a statistic and make it work for you (recommended reading: How to Lie with Statistics, Darell Huff), but once those stats are being put in perspective, they then become are far less extraordinary. |
Jasese
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.25 19:33:00 -
[213]
Why the hate from goons to burn eden,
back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ******* gods.
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Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.25 19:40:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden,
back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ******* gods.
They are pretty full of themselves and the **** they talked when we killed their neutral hauler was annoying.
I don't care who you are take that **** like a man don't hurf blurf about "oh you killed the wrong hauler" like we should be scared of you. |
Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.25 20:18:00 -
[215]
Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 25/04/2008 20:18:57
Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden,
back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ******* gods.
turns out you were self-absorbed *****s whose understanding of pvp was limited entirely to uncloaking a dozen ravens to kill a hauler
woops
EX. us killing a be hauler full of loot that warped into one of our gangs and satan threatening us with TERRIBLE RETRIBUTION
U MESSED WIT DA WRONG NPC CORP HAULER, M8S
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Tabare Vazquez
Uruguay Forever
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Posted - 2008.04.25 20:24:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Minokou
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Minokou The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space.
Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory.
Well, the discussion about which benefits the upcoming sov levels should bring is for another topic really. Still, given the fact that hostile cloakers can't be removed, and that the cloakers are the one's who choose the time and place of the engagement, it's not surprising that they are able to create any number of losses without many losses of their own.
I can appreciate that someone takes the time to really think game mechanics through, test them out, refine them, and apply them exceedingly well. What I can't appreciate is the sensationalist attitude that follows. BE popped a few hundred ships. So what? The outcome of that campaign couldn't have been any different, neither was it any different than any other BE campaign, nor is it any different than the campaigns of many other cloakers all across EVE.
It's easy to take a statistic and make it work for you (recommended reading: How to Lie with Statistics, Darell Huff), but once those stats are being put in perspective, they then become are far less extraordinary.
BRUCE members are not supposed to post on public forums, remember?
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Von Druid
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.25 20:27:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Minokou Well, the discussion about which benefits the upcoming sov levels should bring is for another topic really. Still, given the fact that hostile cloakers can't be removed, and that the cloakers are the one's who choose the time and place of the engagement, it's not surprising that they are able to create any number of losses without many losses of their own.
I can appreciate that someone takes the time to really think game mechanics through, test them out, refine them, and apply them exceedingly well. What I can't appreciate is the sensationalist attitude that follows. BE popped a few hundred ships. So what? The outcome of that campaign couldn't have been any different, neither was it any different than any other BE campaign, nor is it any different than the campaigns of many other cloakers all across EVE.
It's easy to take a statistic and make it work for you (recommended reading: How to Lie with Statistics, Darell Huff), but once those stats are being put in perspective, they then become are far less extraordinary.
That's a pretty long post for basically saying that you don't care about losing a large amount of ships to a tiny number of players.
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.25 20:59:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden,
back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ******* gods.
Make no mistake they still do, that is why they hang on every word or sentence one of us says.
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Equin
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.04.25 21:15:00 -
[219]
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden,
back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ******* gods.
Make no mistake they still do, that is why they hang on every word or sentence one of us says.
Given the volume of our posting we must worship everyone in eve.
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sakana
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.25 21:32:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Tekka Well Straife if PL changes its tactics to something other than nanoboringsamethingoverandoveragain then I'll drop by and give you some special love too
I'm not smacking PL you're good at what you do, just bored of the whole nano thing, try something new.
To reply in a respectful manner, if I told you I was bored of you bring 100 man fleets comprised mainly of RR BSs to fight us, would you stop doing it? No ofc not. You fight your way, we shall fight ours.
Also, I seem to remember being in the gang last week when we brought 40 BS up to you and got blueballed :(
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.25 22:21:00 -
[221]
Originally by: blue strigoy
Originally by: Evil Pookie I am a worthless poaster.
true. Sry, but I see no proof, why you are the best players in eve. How you want to proof that? Most of your play time you sit somewhere cloaked, because it is too dangerous for you out there in eve! An embarrassing ship loss could happen.
STOP IT!! YOU ARE DESTROYING OUR E-HONOUR!!!
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.25 22:49:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region
And has had more fleet fights per day, and more fun per round, this year than any other?
If we can get some more, we'll trade you the last region for it... oh wait, you tried that, and fell on your faces.
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.25 22:52:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden,
back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ******* gods.
turns out you were self-absorbed *****s whose understanding of pvp was limited entirely to uncloaking a dozen ravens to kill a hauler
umm.. Just to check, are you saying udie or goonies turned out to be self-absorbed *****s with a limited understanding of PVP?
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.04.25 22:57:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Trinity Trixx Hey guys. That alliance is huge and the number of kills is rather low for a month of killing and an alliance of 3000k+ members.
Trin
Bruce is that big?? wowzer
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Rejected Enlightenment
Habitual Euthanasia
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Posted - 2008.04.25 23:39:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Minokou
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Minokou The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space.
Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory.
Well, the discussion about which benefits the upcoming sov levels should bring is for another topic really. Still, given the fact that hostile cloakers can't be removed, and that the cloakers are the one's who choose the time and place of the engagement, it's not surprising that they are able to create any number of losses without many losses of their own.
I can appreciate that someone takes the time to really think game mechanics through, test them out, refine them, and apply them exceedingly well. What I can't appreciate is the sensationalist attitude that follows. BE popped a few hundred ships. So what? The outcome of that campaign couldn't have been any different, neither was it any different than any other BE campaign, nor is it any different than the campaigns of many other cloakers all across EVE.
It's easy to take a statistic and make it work for you (recommended reading: How to Lie with Statistics, Darell Huff), but once those stats are being put in perspective, they then become are far less extraordinary.
Don't think Freddy will be too happy with your posting Mino.
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.26 01:23:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region
And has had more fleet fights per day, and more fun per round, this year than any other?
If we can get some more, we'll trade you the last region for it... oh wait, you tried that, and fell on your faces.
Failboat departing, next stop, the north?
This is why I love Bob...... "bring it on" attitude 8).
WildCat
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.26 02:03:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region
And has had more fleet fights per day, and more fun per round, this year than any other?
If we can get some more, we'll trade you the last region for it... oh wait, you tried that, and fell on your faces.
Failboat departing, next stop, the north?
wtf just asking i mean stuckup attitudes change corp/alliances you went from that whole 'we want to dominate eve' thing to the 'we want good fights' attitude wouldnt be surprised if burn's whole 'we want to kill ****' attitude went to 'we want to decloak on **** and pretend that we dont have to get a new tactic when this one is countered because were already the best' at some point
i mean srsly im not here for the fighting anyways just an economics dweeb like that qen guy dont mind the fighting but it isnt all what eve is being better at fighting doesnt make you absolutely better etc
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Tenebrys
Havoc Violence and Chaos R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.26 02:05:00 -
[228]
oh and btw i joined this corp and it joined rk about a month ago so its not like i represent it or read history books etc
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ZenTex
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.26 02:54:00 -
[229]
Edited by: ZenTex on 26/04/2008 02:56:28
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region
... we'll trade you the last region for it... oh wait, you tried that, and fell on your faces...
Failboat departing, next stop, the north?
Hmm. We havent tried that actually. Since the RA incident last year RK havent been involved in the war.
Nice try...
Edit: And burn Eden, when you're bored of ganking, will you ever try to actually be of someinfluence in the EVE universe?
There's little a sledgehammer can't fix. If you can't fix it, you need a bigger sledgehammer. If it's unfixable, blame CCP. :p
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DOARota
Gallente Drones Of Annihilation.
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Posted - 2008.04.26 05:03:00 -
[230]
Originally by: ZenTex Edited by: ZenTex on 26/04/2008 02:56:28
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Tenebrys isnt 'we are better than you' why bob now only has one region
... we'll trade you the last region for it... oh wait, you tried that, and fell on your faces...
Failboat departing, next stop, the north?
Hmm. We havent tried that actually. Since the RA incident last year RK havent been involved in the war.
Nice try...
Edit: And burn Eden, when you're bored of ganking, will you ever try to actually be of someinfluence in the EVE universe?
I've been away for a while but at 8 pages I'd say they're influencing you a fair bit
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.26 09:10:00 -
[231]
Originally by: ZenTex
And burn Eden, when you're bored of ganking, will you ever try to actually be of someinfluence in the EVE universe?
Influence?...like who you?... the only influence you have is over your members by convincing them that watching a frozen screen for hours to gain space they will proly never profit from is a good idea.
Unfortunately BE do not recruit idiots so they could never do that.
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.26 09:54:00 -
[232]
Edited by: Evil Pookie on 26/04/2008 09:57:24
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: ZenTex
And burn Eden, when you're bored of ganking, will you ever try to actually be of someinfluence in the EVE universe?
Influence?...like who you?... the only influence you have is over your members by convincing them that watching a frozen screen for hours to gain space they will proly never profit from is a good idea.
Unfortunately BE do not recruit idiots so they could never do that.
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I dunno, some colossal idiots have burn eden in their employment history. Just sayin! And whilst I am just sayin, dont suggest that someone play with traffic, because this gets you a warning. AND NOONE WANTS THAT!
I <3 GM NOVA, ZULUPORK and the forum moderation team!
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.04.26 10:14:00 -
[233]
Originally by: thoth foc
umm.. Just to check, are you saying udie or goonies turned out to be self-absorbed *****s with a limited understanding of PVP?
Don't worry you're lot are still top of the list when it comes to this. Trying to sell the greatest defeat in Eve to this date as a victory.
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Victor Vision
Central Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2008.04.26 12:06:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Minokou ...an alliance of 3500+ toons...
Good that you have toons in your alliance. Maybe you can get a movie contract with Walt Disney Studios.
The rest of us will stick with our good old chars, thank you.
EVE War I-The Beginning - EVE History Wiki |
Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.26 12:18:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: thoth foc
umm.. Just to check, are you saying udie or goonies turned out to be self-absorbed *****s with a limited understanding of PVP?
Don't worry you're lot are still top of the list when it comes to this. Trying to sell the greatest defeat in Eve to this date as a victory.
ofc it's a defeat if you're still standing, or in fact pushing back, when up against such a cryalition of losers such as yourself.
just sayin. Reikoku Diplomatic Forums
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zeroh
Caldari Wreckless Abandon Un-Natural Selection
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Posted - 2008.04.26 12:30:00 -
[236]
Go burn eden woot! im an original member so essentially go me yay! lol
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BRUCEALT4U
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Posted - 2008.04.26 15:49:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Minokou
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Minokou The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space.
Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory.
Well, the discussion about which benefits the upcoming sov levels should bring is for another topic really. Still, given the fact that hostile cloakers can't be removed, and that the cloakers are the one's who choose the time and place of the engagement, it's not surprising that they are able to create any number of losses without many losses of their own.
I can appreciate that someone takes the time to really think game mechanics through, test them out, refine them, and apply them exceedingly well. What I can't appreciate is the sensationalist attitude that follows. BE popped a few hundred ships. So what? The outcome of that campaign couldn't have been any different, neither was it any different than any other BE campaign, nor is it any different than the campaigns of many other cloakers all across EVE.
It's easy to take a statistic and make it work for you (recommended reading: How to Lie with Statistics, Darell Huff), but once those stats are being put in perspective, they then become are far less extraordinary.
BRUCE is implementing an Eve-online ôCAODö & SHC ôWar & Politicsö forum posting ban for all non-diplomats/CEOs.
First offense: Warning (to be followed by offender editing out of CAOD post) Second offense: 100M fine and final warning (to be followed by editing out of CAOD post) Third offense: Boot
Failure to edit out post when warned will result in a boot.
No alt positing either. Alts will be treated same as a playerÆs main.
FIRED |
Ztrain
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.04.26 18:25:00 -
[238]
Quote: Originally by: HoxothulI think he refered to the fact that yesterday BE shut down the outpost in 7bx by throwing a bubble at the dock, basically shutting down 50-60 bruce members or so.
I read that and the scene from Batman with the joker came to mind while he was reading the news papper.
"Wait'll they get a load of BoB....."
Z
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.26 18:31:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Ghaelsto Kakram
Originally by: thoth foc
umm.. Just to check, are you saying udie or goonies turned out to be self-absorbed *****s with a limited understanding of PVP?
Don't worry you're lot are still top of the list when it comes to this. Trying to sell the greatest defeat in Eve to this date as a victory.
Who is trying to sell what here? ------------------
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Khayman33
Section XIII
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Posted - 2008.04.26 18:40:00 -
[240]
You trying to sell your " skill " a at fight etc .... Whining with a non BoB character etc to protect you . You need to go ask thol how to get e-ball
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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.04.26 19:08:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Khayman33 You trying to sell your " skill " a at fight etc .... Whining with a non BoB character etc to protect you . You need to go ask thol how to get e-ball
You haven't read the thread (obviously) but as soon as some random alt attempts to derail it, you fall for it hook, line and sinker..
The usual impressive displays from Section XIII i guess.. go you! ------------------
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Shiodome
Caldari Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.26 20:01:00 -
[242]
i've only fought against Burn Eden twice, both small skirmishes and i/we lost to Burn Eden both times. Enjoyed both fights greatly, and was impressed by their co-ordination and skill level... so not sure what the point of this thread is, but i'd like to give these guys some 'props'. <3 _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
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Scavok
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.26 20:13:00 -
[243]
Edited by: Scavok on 26/04/2008 20:14:00
Originally by: SATAN
Originally by: Jasese Why the hate from goons to burn eden,
back when udie was in Goonswarm you guys warshipped us like ******* gods.
Make no mistake they still do, that is why they hang on every word or sentence one of us says.
*throws nerd rage tantrum on teamspeak after being told to shut up*
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 04:59:00 -
[244]
hopefully this can explain more than I could ever hope to.
Burning Eve
WildCat
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 09:48:00 -
[245]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Minokou
The current game mechanics don't support the removal of hostile cloakers from friendly space.
Nor should it as cloaking is the only way to avoid getting blobbed while in hostile systems, 0.0 is getting safe enough already with jump bridges allowing ppl to travel virtually from low sec to deep 0.0 by warping to a pos let alone removing the only real tool pvpers have for fighting deep in hostile terratory.
It has nothing to do with blobbing really. Cloaking took off following the scan probe changes. Any noob can now pop out a probe and find you in a very short space of time. Before, it required real skill. It was also a lot easier to avoid getting probed.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 11:08:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Shin Ra
It has nothing to do with blobbing really. Cloaking took off following the scan probe changes. Any noob can now pop out a probe and find you in a very short space of time. Before, it required real skill. It was also a lot easier to avoid getting probed.
Well blobbing as in getting probed and having a fleet dropped on you while in a SS is what i was going for tbh. Do try to read between the lines as i know you have been away for a while.
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.04.27 11:24:00 -
[247]
Originally by: thoth foc
You haven't read the thread (obviously) but as soon as some random alt attempts to derail it, you fall for it hook, line and sinker..
The usual impressive displays from Section XIII i guess.. go you!
Wouldn't you call a random alt. You're just another Bob who thinks too much about himself. Then again which Bob doesn't think too much about him or herself. Simply explaining why there are prepared to do anything it takes for more self gratification. Wake up and smell the coffee. You're fighting for a lost cause, you just don't know it yet.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:01:00 -
[248]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
It has nothing to do with blobbing really. Cloaking took off following the scan probe changes. Any noob can now pop out a probe and find you in a very short space of time. Before, it required real skill. It was also a lot easier to avoid getting probed.
Well blobbing as in getting probed and having a fleet dropped on you while in a SS is what i was going for tbh. Do try to read between the lines as i know you have been away for a while.
Probing is the problem though, not blobbing.
Make probing harder = less need for cloaks. Make blobbing harder = no change in need for cloaks
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:06:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
It has nothing to do with blobbing really. Cloaking took off following the scan probe changes. Any noob can now pop out a probe and find you in a very short space of time. Before, it required real skill. It was also a lot easier to avoid getting probed.
Well blobbing as in getting probed and having a fleet dropped on you while in a SS is what i was going for tbh. Do try to read between the lines as i know you have been away for a while.
Probing is the problem though, not blobbing.
Make probing harder = less need for cloaks. Make blobbing harder = no change in need for cloaks
You totally missed the point in your haste to try to look clever. Il try to dumb down my posts just for you in future.
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Shiodome
Caldari Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:15:00 -
[250]
or you could just learn how to put you point across in a clear an concise manner and stop being an arse? _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:26:00 -
[251]
Originally by: Shiodome or you could just learn how to put you point across in a clear an concise manner and stop being an arse?
It is clear (1 because i flew with them for a long long time and 2 cos why else would you fit a cloak) that BE use cloaks so when they are either taking a break or if the ppl they are fighting bring a blob that is just unmanageably big they can safe up and cloak, to avoid being probed out and blobbed until the numbers are reduced to a more manageable size.
Im sorry if my comments did not say all that in full and glorious detail as i did not realize utterly clueless morons were reading them.
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Shiodome
Caldari Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:27:00 -
[252]
you somehow missed the fact you're posting on COAD then? _____________________________________ today i am this cool: [uncool]================[*]====[cool]
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Antodias
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:30:00 -
[253]
Originally by: lecrotta
Im sorry if my comments did not say all that in full and glorious detail as i did not realize utterly clueless morons were reading them.
Yes, because you had to clarify your comment 3 times, everyone else must be an idiot.
Not that it's any clearer now, apart from the fact that you troll everyone who even quotes you.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:33:00 -
[254]
Edited by: lecrotta on 27/04/2008 12:33:59
Originally by: Antodias
Originally by: lecrotta
Im sorry if my comments did not say all that in full and glorious detail as i did not realize utterly clueless morons were reading them.
Yes, because you had to clarify your comment 3 times, everyone else must be an idiot.
Not that it's any clearer now, apart from the fact that you troll everyone who even quotes you.
If you cannot understand why BE use cloaks in the first place let alone after all these posts then its because you either a fool or you do not want to understand. Oh and most of the ppl who quote me are trolling me if you are paying as much attention as you claim, so give a little get a little.
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Antodias
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:36:00 -
[255]
Originally by: lecrotta BE use cloaks otherwise they get blobbed
Summarised your argument for you.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 12:37:00 -
[256]
Edited by: lecrotta on 27/04/2008 12:37:51
Originally by: Antodias
Originally by: lecrotta BE use cloaks otherwise they get blobbed
Summarised your argument for you.
Do not let shin ra see that as a comment like that is how all this started.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 13:00:00 -
[257]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 27/04/2008 12:27:03
Originally by: Shiodome or you could just learn how to put you point across in a clear an concise manner and stop being an arse?
1 because i flew with them for a long long time and 2 cos why else would you fit a cloak)
I would guess that your stupidity is the reason you no longer do.
Cloaking has a variety of benefits, the defensive ones have been covered. Cloaking can also be an offensive tool (scout jumps in and sees nothing on scanner and says its ok for navy rave to jump in - being one example). We do use cloaks to take a break without worrying about getting probed, but this is only a half truth.
Also, here is some more attention .
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 13:12:00 -
[258]
Edited by: lecrotta on 27/04/2008 13:14:47
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shiodome or you could just learn how to put you point across in a clear an concise manner and stop being an arse?
1 because i flew with them for a long long time and 2 cos why else would you fit a cloak)
I would guess that your stupidity is the reason you no longer do.
Who says i no longer fly with BE?. i post on this account cos my main is banned for irritating bob.
And yes theres lost of fringe benefits to flying with cloaks but the main one is the ability to be safe in a system with lots of hostiles in and not get probed and blobbed.
Btw you have always been the biggest attention seeker in BE and the least deserving of it. Although its nice to see your actually muted in the afk channel on TS at the moment and thats a blessing to all of us.
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Ghaelsto Kakram
Mindgamers
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Posted - 2008.04.27 13:13:00 -
[259]
The best tactic is the one that actually works.
That and.
Eve is not a popularity contest.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 13:41:00 -
[260]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 27/04/2008 13:14:47
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shiodome or you could just learn how to put you point across in a clear an concise manner and stop being an arse?
1 because i flew with them for a long long time and 2 cos why else would you fit a cloak)
I would guess that your stupidity is the reason you no longer do.
Who says i no longer fly with BE?. i post on this account cos my main is banned for irritating bob.
And yes theres lost of fringe benefits to flying with cloaks but the main one is the ability to be safe in a system with lots of hostiles in and not get probed and blobbed.
Btw you have always been the biggest attention seeker in BE and the least deserving of it. Although its nice to see your actually muted in the afk channel on TS at the moment and thats a blessing to all of us.
Yawn, heard it all before and it always seems to come from behind a keyboard on an alt. Shock/horror, I know!
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Doddy
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.04.27 13:50:00 -
[261]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 27/04/2008 13:14:47
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shiodome or you could just learn how to put you point across in a clear an concise manner and stop being an arse?
1 because i flew with them for a long long time and 2 cos why else would you fit a cloak)
I would guess that your stupidity is the reason you no longer do.
Who says i no longer fly with BE?.
Well.... you did
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 13:54:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Doddy
Well.... you did
Just because i flew with them for a long time before does not mean i am not flying with them again now does it?. It just means i took a break.
Oh and shinra you hear it a lot cos its true.
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BRUCEALT4U
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Posted - 2008.04.27 14:02:00 -
[263]
Originally by: lecrotta i post on this account cos my main is banned for irritating bob.
BRUCE is implementing an Eve-online ôCAODö & SHC ôWar & Politicsö forum posting ban for all non-diplomats/CEOs.
First offense: Warning (to be followed by offender editing out of CAOD post) Second offense: 100M fine and final warning (to be followed by editing out of CAOD post) Third offense: Boot
Failure to edit out post when warned will result in a boot.
No alt positing either. Alts will be treated same as a playerÆs main.
FIRED! |
Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 14:07:00 -
[264]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 27/04/2008 13:55:52
Originally by: Doddy
Well.... you did
Just because i flew with them for a long time before does not mean i am not flying with them again now does it?. It just means i took a break.
Oh and shinra you have heard it a lot before cos its true alt or not.
Jealous much?
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Jasese
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.27 14:11:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
It has nothing to do with blobbing really. Cloaking took off following the scan probe changes. Any noob can now pop out a probe and find you in a very short space of time. Before, it required real skill. It was also a lot easier to avoid getting probed.
Well blobbing as in getting probed and having a fleet dropped on you while in a SS is what i was going for tbh. Do try to read between the lines as i know you have been away for a while.
Probing is the problem though, not blobbing.
Make probing harder = less need for cloaks. Make blobbing harder = no change in need for cloaks
Actually shin, udie started using cloaks because of mm, heavy camped systems with a ****loads of carriers, use cloaks to avoid fighters.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 14:11:00 -
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Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Doddy
Well.... you did
Just because i flew with them for a long time before does not mean i am not flying with them again now does it?. It just means i took a break.
Oh and shinra you have heard it a lot before cos its true alt or not.
Jealous much?
LOL just LOL.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 14:23:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Jasese
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
It has nothing to do with blobbing really. Cloaking took off following the scan probe changes. Any noob can now pop out a probe and find you in a very short space of time. Before, it required real skill. It was also a lot easier to avoid getting probed.
Well blobbing as in getting probed and having a fleet dropped on you while in a SS is what i was going for tbh. Do try to read between the lines as i know you have been away for a while.
Probing is the problem though, not blobbing.
Make probing harder = less need for cloaks. Make blobbing harder = no change in need for cloaks
Actually shin, udie started using cloaks because of mm, heavy camped systems with a ****loads of carriers, use cloaks to avoid fighters.
There were many reasons, fighters being just one of them. Ultimately, it was the scan probe changes that were the biggest driver behind it.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 14:25:00 -
[268]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Doddy
Well.... you did
Just because i flew with them for a long time before does not mean i am not flying with them again now does it?. It just means i took a break.
Oh and shinra you have heard it a lot before cos its true alt or not.
Jealous much?
LOL just LOL.
I'll take that as a "Yes but I don't want to admit it".
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Peoke
Caldari Unknown Shoe Corp. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.27 15:04:00 -
[269]
shinra stop wasting your time arguing with the alt. All youve done is changed your tactics to achieve the type of game you like from 3 yeas ago. Back then was cores and insta log now its cloaks, dont argue the points or try and change the wheel. Your out for the cs style kb stats and thats it, just ive with that public image and these threads would be done already.
I did fly with and against you and killing nubs all day and runing gets old sooner or later.
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 15:07:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Shin Ra
I'll take that as a "Yes but I don't want to admit it".
Wtf is there to be jealous of you about, your the joke of BE.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 15:09:00 -
[271]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
I'll take that as a "Yes but I don't want to admit it".
Wtf is there to be jealous of you about, your the joke of BE.
more like champion of the world, am i rite?
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 15:14:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
I'll take that as a "Yes but I don't want to admit it".
Wtf is there to be jealous of you about, your the joke of BE.
more like champion of the world, am i rite?
You post big but are not even in the top 15 this month for kills so id say the biggest joke as the number 15 slot this month only has 51 kills, rather poor for TI let alone BE.
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Jasese
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:07:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
I'll take that as a "Yes but I don't want to admit it".
Wtf is there to be jealous of you about, your the joke of BE.
more like champion of the world, am i rite?
rite
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:29:00 -
[274]
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
I'll take that as a "Yes but I don't want to admit it".
Wtf is there to be jealous of you about, your the joke of BE.
more like champion of the world, am i rite?
You post big but are not even in the top 15 this month for kills so id say the biggest joke as the number 15 slot this month only has 51 kills, rather poor for TI let alone BE.
Have you seen my statue?
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lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:39:00 -
[275]
Edited by: lecrotta on 27/04/2008 16:39:29
Originally by: Shin Ra
Have you seen my statue?
No but then i heard the guys talking about you having an embarrassingly small e***tion is that what they were referring to?. |
Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:41:00 -
[276]
Originally by: lecrotta Edited by: lecrotta on 27/04/2008 16:39:29
Originally by: Shin Ra
Have you seen my statue?
No but then i heard the guys talking about you having an embarrassingly small e***tion is that what they were referring to?.
What are you trying to imply? |
Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.27 16:49:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Peoke shinra stop wasting your time arguing with the alt. All youve done is changed your tactics to achieve the type of game you like from 3 yeas ago. Back then was cores and insta log now its cloaks, dont argue the points or try and change the wheel. Your out for the cs style kb stats and thats it, just ive with that public image and these threads would be done already.
I did fly with and against you and killing nubs all day and runing gets old sooner or later.
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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[278]
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
Originally by: lecrotta
Originally by: Shin Ra
I'll take that as a "Yes but I don't want to admit it".
Wtf is there to be jealous of you about, your the joke of BE.
more like champion of the world, am i rite?
You post big but are not even in the top 15 this month for kills so id say the biggest joke as the number 15 slot this month only has 51 kills, rather poor for TI let alone BE.
Have you seen my statue?
Thread winner
- Gob
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SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.27 18:24:00 -
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Ok lets clear the air,
Why we use cloaks #1 reason.
Probing, when probing took skill it was easy to avoid and take advantage of knowing how to probe. Now that all it takes is 1 noob with some trained skills to probe you down in 20 seconds, its fairly easy to see why skill is no longer relevant. Avoiding getting a 50 man blob along with 50 fighters on your head is what the cloaks are for nothing more.
Those that think we use to to panic the locals or whatever are just reading too far between the lines. When we are cloaked and not doing anything most likely we are away from the computer, or playing WoW in Evil's case.
And who ever this alt is that is smacking Shin, grow a pair and say it with your main. Cause I hate to think we have someone on TS with us that has to hide behind a security blanket to get his point across. |
SATAN
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.27 18:29:00 -
[280]
Originally by: Peoke shinra stop wasting your time arguing with the alt. All youve done is changed your tactics to achieve the type of game you like from 3 yeas ago. Back then was cores and insta log now its cloaks, dont argue the points or try and change the wheel. Your out for the cs style kb stats and thats it, just ive with that public image and these threads would be done already.
I did fly with and against you and killing nubs all day and runing gets old sooner or later.
Peoke,
Problem is the game style you are playing now is not what we want to do or most likely ever will. We like to challenge our selves, while in the process out witting our enemy. When the number one concern in your engagement is module lag, you need to stop and rethink just what it is you are doing.
And lets face it, you hardly ever flew with us your former leaders goals were always to build a carebear heaven. You guys even because ASCN pets to be allowed to mine that roid. So lets not start remembering the good old days of your pvp, cause honestly it never exhisted.
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Bruce Forsysth
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:09:00 -
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Quote: Posted - 2008.04.22 21:08:00 - [1] - QuoteReport
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A month of hell for BRUCE alliance resulted in the most comedic BURN EDEN campaign since the ASCN pillage. Firstly our stats:
Assault Ship 13 / 0 Battlecruiser 44 / 0 Battleship 97 / 6 Black Ops 0 / 1 Capsule 133 / 5 Combat Recon Ship 10 / 0 Command Ship 4 / 0 Covert Ops 3 / 0 Cruiser 45 / 0 Destroyer 4 / 0 Electronic Attack Ship 16 / 10 Force Recon Ship 23 / 1 Frigate 9 / 0 Heavy Assault Ship 47 / 0 Heavy Interdictor 4 / 0 Industrial 15 / 0 Interceptor 52 / 0 Interdictor 12 / 3 Marauder 1 / 0 Mining Barge 3 / 0 Rookie ship 2 / 0 Shuttle 3 / 0 Stealth Bomber 14 / 0 Transport Ship 1 / 0
BRUCE will no doubt claim that we had little effect on them blah blah blah. But their forums say otherwise.
A Month of hell???, maybe a month of aggravation and annoyance, but thats about all you achieved. In a month PL have done 20 times the damage you had achieved but we are still here and strong.
BE were/are never a real threat to us,PL are a strong opponent but even they cannot evict us from our space or hurt our morale.
Spout numbers as much as you like, PL are 10 times the enemy you are and they cannot hurt us |
lecrotta
lecrotta Corp
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:25:00 -
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Edited by: lecrotta on 27/04/2008 23:33:53
Originally by: Bruce Forsysth
A Month of hell???, maybe a month of aggravation and annoyance, but thats about all you achieved. In a month PL have done 20 times the damage you had achieved but we are still here and strong.
BE were/are never a real threat to us,PL are a strong opponent but even they cannot evict us from our space or hurt our morale.
Spout numbers as much as you like, PL are 10 times the enemy you are and they cannot hurt us
LOL its all about the space and never about the success with ppl like you aint it wtf makes you think BE are interested in your morale or evicting you?.
Its about the fun and about the skill for BE but with carebear alliances its all about bragging how much space you have and how you did not lose any to the 8 man gangs. I do not care about your space and even if you gave me all of it in a bundle wrapped with a bow id only sell it tbqh as id consider it a burden not a blessing.
PL (no disrespect intended towards them) may have done 20 x the dmg and they may be 10 x the enemy but they also have 100 x the numbers and have taken considerably more damage than BE.
Oh yes and if sitting in a laggy blob desnyching while opposite another laggy blob until the server crashes or you log out and find out if you won the next day is what you consider having balls and pvping then you need your head looking at pal.
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eito sec'undo
Caldari Soliders Of Eve
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Posted - 2008.04.27 23:53:00 -
[283]
I for one support BE in this thread, keep up the fun work. And I looked, and behold a pale horse. and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. |
Bodziu
Gallente Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.04.28 08:33:00 -
[284]
Like always BE we are great we are the best. Im really bored from your tactics camp gates run or cloak if more come. You are so brave hiting lonly ships at gates. Looks like eve evolving your are not. DHB I thinked you can do more but i was wrong. Have fun in your great path lol
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.28 10:18:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Bodziu Like always BE we are great we are the best. Im really bored from your tactics camp gates run or cloak if more come. You are so brave hiting lonly ships at gates. Looks like eve evolving your are not. DHB I thinked you can do more but i was wrong. Have fun in your great path lol
I would rather say we are the ones who are evolving and most of eve is not. Since we are the ones who adapt, change setups, tactics and what not, and still get the job done with small numbers. While most others just throw more numbers at the problem and maybe a few capitals to be sure.
We are not out after anyones space. We are simply after your loot. And people saying "what you do is no fun", what isn`t fun in engaging outnumbered in hostile system, killing whats there and be able to pick up the loot? And at the same time keeping your own losses at a minimum...
"You cant harm us, we are not affected by your kills", maybe not, but when we are killing stuff and get well over 10 bil in 2 weeks, just in loot. How much do you think the stuff we blew up is worth? Is that ISK that just came out of thin air?
We have to do something right, since many alliances who claim we have no impact on their day to day operations, takes the time to get carrier support, 30-40 man gangs and sometimes supercap support.... just to have a "good fight" against a few guys who "have no innfluence on their day to day operations".....
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Crackzilla
The Shadow Order SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.28 10:52:00 -
[286]
Originally by: TZeer ...but when we are killing stuff and get well over 10 bil in 2 weeks, just in loot. How much do you think the stuff we blew up is worth? Is that ISK that just came out of thin air?
Wow, I thought Burn Eden made more. Its great you can pay to pvp this way. If you figure out how much isk/hour/char you're making there are other ways to make more isk.
Smashkill has lost way way way more isk on fairly routine battles that were over in less than hour. What is different here is that Burn Eden has the patience to stay on a single gate and make a CAOD post about it. Burn Eden is certainly good at what you do. I also think you're seriously overrating your effect and the economics of the situation.
To put this in perspective, 10bil in 2 weeks isn't bad for a series of corp mining ops a few hours every night. It represents about the effort of 5 people seriously ratting. So then take the value of fittings and ships spread out across a few thousand. Say we're looking at 100bil in losses. This represents maybe an hour of ratting per month for the average person.
Many don't rat/mine all of the time. They rat/mine until they have enough to buy a ship and outfit it. They fly it. They lose it. They repeat the process. Losing ships often simply changes the formula towards a bit more isk making. We're back at someone spending an hour extra ratting versus looking for pvp. This isn't a zero sum game where isk disappears.
If someone isn't paying attention and gets ganked, yes it may hurt them. They deserved it. For most this is simply a nice way to have some fun.
Originally by: TZeer
We have to do something right, since many alliances who claim we have no impact on their day to day operations, takes the time to get carrier support, 30-40 man gangs and sometimes supercap support.... just to have a "good fight" against a few guys who "have no innfluence on their day to day operations".....
At least for bwf if you'll look it has always been this way. Every month or two someone camps it. Carriers and gangs go have fun. A post on COAD follows. The names in local change. Thats about it.
Most of the kills there are either ganks on those who cannot check intel or folks that are bored. It doesn't exactly take much to get a 30-40 man gang together with cap support.
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TZeer
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.28 11:17:00 -
[287]
Could have been more... but damn inventions
And regarding isk/losses/gang/fights etc, I was talkin on a general basis here. I know 10 bil isnt that much compared to what you can make by mine/produce/rat and so on. I remember when I was in an alliance. I could make 100 mil in 1 day if I dedicated my self to ratting... So in theory I could make 1 bil in 10 days and 3 bil in a month. But to be honest, my wallet hardly tipped over 1 bil...
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MineralOel Steuer
Amarr OP EC
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Posted - 2008.04.28 11:19:00 -
[288]
Shin Ra, the Quenn of Eve? c/d |
Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.28 11:39:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Bodziu Like always BE we are great we are the best. Im really bored from your tactics camp gates run or cloak if more come. You are so brave hiting lonly ships at gates. Looks like eve evolving your are not. DHB I thinked you can do more but i was wrong. Have fun in your great path lol
dude, take a pill will you.
BE style is way better than blobbing a system and getting a 5 min module lag. i don't gent it why you and lots of other thing about the cloaks as *** or whatever.
Like Kick said. The cloak saves you from the one that has decent to excellent probing skills.Judging by your comments you rather keep hopping between celestial objects? The way BE does it just gets their opponents annoyed cause BE goes afk, comes back, pops a few and goes back afk. To be honest, BE style is way better than any blob warfare i've seen so far
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Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.28 13:07:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Needa3
Originally by: Bodziu Like always BE we are great we are the best. Im really bored from your tactics camp gates run or cloak if more come. You are so brave hiting lonly ships at gates. Looks like eve evolving your are not. DHB I thinked you can do more but i was wrong. Have fun in your great path lol
dude, take a pill will you.
BE style is way better than blobbing a system and getting a 5 min module lag. i don't gent it why you and lots of other thing about the cloaks as *** or whatever.
Like Kick said. The cloak saves you from the one that has decent to excellent probing skills.Judging by your comments you rather keep hopping between celestial objects? The way BE does it just gets their opponents annoyed cause BE goes afk, comes back, pops a few and goes back afk. To be honest, BE style is way better than any blob warfare i've seen so far
Jesus Christ on a Bike Needa, stop making sense and agreeing with us. I dont even like you.
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Bodziu
Gallente Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.04.28 13:22:00 -
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Edited by: Bodziu on 28/04/2008 13:27:10 dude, take a pill will you.
BE style is way better than blobbing a system and getting a 5 min module lag. i don't gent it why you and lots of other thing about the cloaks as *** or whatever.
Like Kick said. The cloak saves you from the one that has decent to excellent probing skills.Judging by your comments you rather keep hopping between celestial objects? The way BE does it just gets their opponents annoyed cause BE goes afk, comes back, pops a few and goes back afk. To be honest, BE style is way better than any blob warfare i've seen so far
Maybe you need pill not me. I dont like blob fight I like old style low number gang flying around and try get good fights, like we make in 4 peoples yesterday - meet 6 man gang and fight together. I just simply dont understand that caod posting from BE how they make their way in another alliance space. They are great in PvP a way better then me but I always have rights and I will uses my point of view when I like and how I like. I dont like that they jumping in band wagon every time they decide, but that is another history. To BE why you not stay like in old days out of any alliances and do your job - you changed to mecenary now?. Now I can back to my worm hole :)
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.28 13:24:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Bodziu Like always BE we are great we are the best. Im really bored from your tactics camp gates run or cloak if more come. You are so brave hiting lonly ships at gates. Looks like eve evolving your are not. DHB I thinked you can do more but i was wrong. Have fun in your great path lol
Man why is this becoming personal? I too once used to be in HUZZAH. I remember being in 25 man gangs to 300 man fleets. I remember the sole rule of engagement those days.... Zarnie Woop - "We cant engage! We dont have enough people!"
So I went where there was a small group of skilled and intelligent players. Noone here is a mindless drone. Besides whats the difference of cloaking in a safe in a hostile system waiting to engage, as opposed to gathering at a pos in your own system and waiting till you have enough to engage? You say the cloak is a **** tactic... I say hiding in a pos with guns and an impenitrable shield to protect you is not only a **** tactic but cowardly!
It is all about your style of play. I would love to see a HUZZAH video where you have 6 people and fight a gang of 30 with capital support and not only win the fight, but hold the field and get the loot! Until you or anyone else can show me this... You have nothing on me, and have NO RIGHT to critize me or my corp!
WildCat
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Bodziu
Gallente Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.04.28 13:33:00 -
[293]
That change a long time ago. Now is more funny then times in catch, a lot more pew pew small roaming gangs. Personely - beacause I know only your from BE that all. Have good fights in future mate. o/ o7
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Bodziu
Gallente Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.04.28 13:42:00 -
[294]
Originally by: DHB WildCat
It is all about your style of play. I would love to see a HUZZAH video where you have 6 people and fight a gang of 30 with capital support and not only win the fight, but hold the field and get the loot! Until you or anyone else can show me this... You have nothing on me, and have NO RIGHT to critize me or my corp!
WildCat [/orange]
Any 1 have any rights to make positiv or critical opinion. I uses that rights and you cant prohibiting me that. It call democracy. |
Evil Pookie
BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2008.04.28 13:49:00 -
[295]
Originally by: Bodziu
Originally by: DHB WildCat
It is all about your style of play. I would love to see a HUZZAH video where you have 6 people and fight a gang of 30 with capital support and not only win the fight, but hold the field and get the loot! Until you or anyone else can show me this... You have nothing on me, and have NO RIGHT to critize me or my corp!
WildCat [/orange]
Any 1 have any rights to make positiv or critical opinion. I uses that rights and you cant prohibiting me that. It call democracy.
And I call on the awsome powers of SpongeBob Square Pants |
Bodziu
Gallente Galactic Shipyards Inc HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.04.28 13:57:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Evil Pookie
And I call on the awsome powers of SpongeBob Square Pants
Hm I dont get you. What you mean?
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Kuzya Morozov
Gallente The Older Gamers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.04.28 14:20:00 -
[297]
The funniest part of all of this might have been when they started suiciding their RK alt on the gate to boost their stats :) |
Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.28 14:40:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Evil Pookie
Jesus Christ on a Bike Needa, stop making sense and agreeing with us. I dont even like you.
oops sorry Pookie, i forgot about that for a sec. you can continue not liking me now |
Earthan
Gallente GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.28 15:38:00 -
[299]
Originally by: Needa3 Edited by: Needa3 on 24/04/2008 16:29:04
Originally by: blue strigoy Most eve players do not want to copy the Burn Eden style of playing this game, because they think, it is lame and boring. It is only about gank. BE avoid pvp with the risk of losing a ship or even a POS like the plague. Forward scout, rear scout, sniping position, NPC alts, cloaks on all ships etc.etc. BE will never convince any large group of Eve players about their way of playing the game. It is no fun.
i see your point but i have to disagree. I had the honour to be in TI for a while. Not BE but TI for a starter. I had my differences with Kick but in all honesty he and the rest of BE are uber pvpers. 1 day flying with them was worth more day months of eve before. You are other may find their way of flying boring and lame. Myself and a few of my corpmates like the way they fly. It's different but it's more effective than every other type of pvp i've seen so far. That BE can't convince any other group to pew pew the way they do it... i don't think BE gives a **** about it. If other groups don't wanna fight that way... their loss i would say.
i'm by far not as good as even the crappiest player in their corp, fact is they remain very effective and they have a killboard to prove it. BE/ TI will always have my uttermost respect for the way they pvp in the game.
it's effective, it's thrilling, it's fun and imo TI is the best pvp in the game
yuo cant compare tri with BE.
Tri goes in close and if odds are more or less even or even abit worse for them, will engage.They are imho one of best small squad pvp forces in Eve atm, respect from me.They also dont dop the whole smack down on their enemies...
BE will sit with sniper on a gate and pop passing ships, retreating atm an opposite gang appears.How can you say its fun or very demanding? Yea they are great at that and will have great kill/death radio.Not my game or respect tough. -
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Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.28 15:44:00 -
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i'm talking about TI - Terra Incognita. BE is part of TI
not talking about TRI (also good pew pew'ers but nothing to do with this thread)
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Earthan
Gallente GREY COUNCIL Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.28 16:15:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Needa3 i'm talking about TI - Terra Incognita. BE is part of TI
not talking about TRI (also good pew pew'ers but nothing to do with this thread)
Ooops sorry misread -
Killing Eve bullies all over the galaxy hunting stories |
DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.28 17:35:00 -
[302]
Edited by: DHB WildCat on 28/04/2008 17:35:41 /me points down
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DHB WildCat
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2008.04.28 17:35:00 -
[303]
Originally by: Earthan
Originally by: Needa3 Edited by: Needa3 on 24/04/2008 16:29:04
Originally by: blue strigoy Most eve players do not want to copy the Burn Eden style of playing this game, because they think, it is lame and boring. It is only about gank. BE avoid pvp with the risk of losing a ship or even a POS like the plague. Forward scout, rear scout, sniping position, NPC alts, cloaks on all ships etc.etc. BE will never convince any large group of Eve players about their way of playing the game. It is no fun.
i see your point but i have to disagree. I had the honour to be in TI for a while. Not BE but TI for a starter. I had my differences with Kick but in all honesty he and the rest of BE are uber pvpers. 1 day flying with them was worth more day months of eve before. You are other may find their way of flying boring and lame. Myself and a few of my corpmates like the way they fly. It's different but it's more effective than every other type of pvp i've seen so far. That BE can't convince any other group to pew pew the way they do it... i don't think BE gives a **** about it. If other groups don't wanna fight that way... their loss i would say.
i'm by far not as good as even the crappiest player in their corp, fact is they remain very effective and they have a killboard to prove it. BE/ TI will always have my uttermost respect for the way they pvp in the game.
it's effective, it's thrilling, it's fun and imo TI is the best pvp in the game
yuo cant compare tri with BE.
Tri goes in close and if odds are more or less even or even abit worse for them, will engage.They are imho one of best small squad pvp forces in Eve atm, respect from me.They also dont dop the whole smack down on their enemies...
BE will sit with sniper on a gate and pop passing ships, retreating atm an opposite gang appears.How can you say its fun or very demanding? Yea they are great at that and will have great kill/death radio.Not my game or respect tough.
Burning Eve Jeez you obviously do not know us, and especially me.... Im the stupid crazy one in BE and our corp is famous for being able to engage outnumbered. Your ignorance is absolutely amazing.
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Shin Ra
BURN EDEN
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Originally by: Earthan
Originally by: Needa3 Edited by: Needa3 on 24/04/2008 16:29:04
Originally by: blue strigoy Most eve players do not want to copy the Burn Eden style of playing this game, because they think, it is lame and boring. It is only about gank. BE avoid pvp with the risk of losing a ship or even a POS like the plague. Forward scout, rear scout, sniping position, NPC alts, cloaks on all ships etc.etc. BE will never convince any large group of Eve players about their way of playing the game. It is no fun.
i see your point but i have to disagree. I had the honour to be in TI for a while. Not BE but TI for a starter. I had my differences with Kick but in all honesty he and the rest of BE are uber pvpers. 1 day flying with them was worth more day months of eve before. You are other may find their way of flying boring and lame. Myself and a few of my corpmates like the way they fly. It's different but it's more effective than every other type of pvp i've seen so far. That BE can't convince any other group to pew pew the way they do it... i don't think BE gives a **** about it. If other groups don't wanna fight that way... their loss i would say.
i'm by far not as good as even the crappiest player in their corp, fact is they remain very effective and they have a killboard to prove it. BE/ TI will always have my uttermost respect for the way they pvp in the game.
it's effective, it's thrilling, it's fun and imo TI is the best pvp in the game
yuo cant compare tri with BE.
Tri goes in close and if odds are more or less even or even abit worse for them, will engage.They are imho one of best small squad pvp forces in Eve atm, respect from me.They also dont dop the whole smack down on their enemies...
BE will sit with sniper on a gate and pop passing ships, retreating atm an opposite gang appears.How can you say its fun or very demanding? Yea they are great at that and will have great kill/death radio.Not my game or respect tough.
You are in Hydra.... I'm sorry for the insult, but it had to be said.
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