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Zeba
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Posted - 2008.05.19 19:05:00 -
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Originally by: Sarin Adler Now... this sucks, a lot :(
Roll a frigate alt if you have a spare slot. Should only take a week or so to get enough sp to take on the frig warzones and a monthish for a decent crusier.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2008.05.19 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 19/05/2008 19:11:48
Originally by: Sarin Adler Sure, but I don't understand the reasoning for this, why the hell shouldn't I be able to use my user w/o being forced to leave my corp.
I blame lazy programming and/or wanting me to use more characters (money). ok, enough ranting.
Because FW is purposely designed to be seperate from player corp/alliance warfare and politics.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2008.05.19 19:29:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 19/05/2008 19:31:22
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 19/05/2008 19:11:48
Originally by: Sarin Adler Sure, but I don't understand the reasoning for this, why the hell shouldn't I be able to use my user w/o being forced to leave my corp.
I blame lazy programming and/or wanting me to use more characters (money). ok, enough ranting.
Because FW is purposely designed to be seperate from player corp/alliance warfare and politics.
Which would be why half the people who have been paitently waiting for FW the last few years now totally feel alienated by CCP.
Right or wrong choice by CCP, meh I dont care, I wasnt personally intrested in FW anyways, but I have a lot of friends who are really annoyed and making "rabble rabble" outside of these forums.
Look at it from this point of view. Eve has needed some form of 'introductory' pvp for quite a while to get the people who ride the fence on trying pvp to have something officially organized and soloable to do instead of dying horribly in low sec or dying horribly in 0.0 for someone elses cause or greifing pleasure. Alliances have been harping on getting the 80% empire playerbase out in low/nullsec for years and tbh this is the first time I've seen something that might actually work.
~Gets solo empire players into low sec in pvp fit ships. ~Encourges teamwork to take over sites from enemy faction players. ~Objectives are hardcoded so the emphasis will be on pew pew instead of machiavellian plots. ~Simulates on a basic easy to understand scale what the nullsec alliance warfare is about.
Sounds like the perfect recruiting ground for some alliance alts to indentify the aggressive players that stand out from the masses that up to this point would never have been noticed.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2008.05.19 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Havohej So is it supposed to be soloable or is it supposed to ~Encourges teamwork to take over sites from enemy faction players?
I'm lost.
The sites themselve can be soloed if no player enemys are present thus if your the solo empire type you can participate and contribute to your factions glory. Teamwork come in when you start to get several faction in the same system vying over contol of the key sites and final control bunker. So in effect FW caters to all types of play. Basically the timer based objectives effectively cut out the *need* for blobs but allow for them if you have to knock an enemy off a site. All I see so far is win tbh.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2008.05.19 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 19/05/2008 20:06:57
Originally by: Havohej Maybe they WILL open it up on an individual level, maybe they won't... if they don't, I won't be able to participate until somebody destroys TCF, leaving my alliance homeless and forcing my corp back to empire.
Yeah I can understand that. I forget that there are lots of players with only one account who have invested all their sp and time into thier corp and can't easily get away. Props to you all who stand by your corp. But for me I guess I'm the solo empire type who didn't ride the fence on pvp but found the only way to compete effectively pvpwise was to use multiple accounts to have my own personal gangs so as a result I have several 30~40 mil combat alts to choose from to use for FW. Still though from the way the Devs have talked this expansion is more for the empire side than nullsec with its delibrate seperation with player alliance so I don't really see CCP letting someone stay in thier own corp and still participate in FW. Think of the hilarity if corp x had a wardec on corp y and camped sites looking for y to show up with his FW gang. Now its not faction warfare anymore.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2008.05.19 20:25:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 19/05/2008 20:26:20
Originally by: Ghengis Tia The emphasis on having your own corp and the benefits thereof is the logical step up from solo Eve. Now the big push to FW takes all this and tosses it away.
Unfortunately the logical step isn't used much it seems with 80% of the playerbase residing in moastly pvp free empire. With the objectives hardcoded and npc entities running the militia payouts and rewards there is no room for getting scammed by a dishonerable corp. This one thing alone should knock quite a few players off the fence toward pvp and the realization its really ******* fun to do. Hence moar players who want to pvp so you get moar potential members for the 'real' warfare of nullsec.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2008.05.20 00:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ghengis Tia FW will not work for me in its present form, bottom line.
Then don't participate. Wanting to stay in your original corp and still be included in FW is like wanting to have one charecter in both the Goons and Bob at the same time. Tbh war dec mechanics would make it totaly impossible to stay in your player corp regardless.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2008.05.20 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jmanis Catharg On an aside, I'm going to join a corp for Factional Warfare with my main. Just for the "FW will break corps and force people to train alts" crowd,,,
Well they don't give you three charecter slots for nothin ya know.
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