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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:41:00 -
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Darius is a champ :)
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Dotard
Suddenly Samurai
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:44:00 -
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LOL?
--------------- Nerf You! Buff Me!
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cal nereus
Perkone
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Posted - 2008.06.09 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin Hello chaps,
A few comments:
1) I would just like to point out one thing about the 'chat log' posted here.
The chat log came from a member of the Committee who had channel rights, which is why it contains a note about Inanna being muted by Jade.
Unfortunately, the other members of the Committee, who do not have channel rights, did not see that notification and therefore had no idea that Jade had gagged Inanna and Jade didn't inform us.
I only became aware that Inanna had been gagged when she mentioned it to me in a separate convo.
2) I was not happy with how the meeting went yesterday particularly Jade's 'editorialising', his muting of Inanna and then raising two issues we had already discussed AFTER we had completed the official agenda and have made some suggestions to the other CSM members about how this should be handled in future.
However all that said the CSM Committee DID has passed a large number of issues on to our Iceland discussions with CCP - mostly unanimously agreed. If we end up getting CCP to do something about even 50% of these then in my view CSM will have done its job making EVE better for everyone! Yes there is bickering but it is to some extent the nature of the beast.
3) A lot of the responsibility for CSM wasting time in 'discussions' over 'majorities/alternates' etc is down to CCP who have only provided the initial CSM with very vague operating principles. As a result this first CSM in particular will be more painful as we work these teething 'issues' out. It is my hope that as the CSM process develops that less time is spent upon CSM procedure and more time on issues that impact the game positively but have to say that at least initially we will see these debates as a CSM 'constitution' is developed.
Cheers
Thank you, Hardin. To be fair, I think your conduct in the entire chat log is commendable. Hopefully that conduct is contagious, and the first Iceland trip turns out well. --- Earning Isk Basic Skills |
Nicholas Barker
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:05:00 -
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Jade Constant-fail ---
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Fifth Horseman
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:09:00 -
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What a massive pile of ****.
Most of the CSM got less votes than the number of people who abstained. And so far all they've done is recreate the tossbank that is Eve-o forums in miniature.
Great going. 50% price increase for Eve-Online. New CSM. Coincidence?
--- Did I upset the wrong alliance with this post? Please don't ban me when it's your shift to control the Mitnal account.
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Victor Valka
Kissaki Corporation
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:13:00 -
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I expect this thread to be at 10 pages when I get home in two hours.
Get to it! Chop-chop!
Originally by: Roxanna Kell You are insane.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:18:00 -
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Quote: [ 2008.06.08 21:53:24 ]Ankhesentapemkah >can we officially close this meeting please as I don't want to record all this unprofessionalism in the minutes.
This is by far the most compelling statement made in that entire log.
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Saladin
Eternity INC. Project Alice.
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:19:00 -
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Originally by: Vaal Erit Abstain votes do not count towards the majority. You should not be allowed to have your physical presence counted toward the constitution of a quorum and at the same time be allowed to deny in effect, your official presence by a failure to vote.
Thats quite debatable and is in fact for the council to decide for themselves. I have seen and studied organizations that use both ways of thinking. Some require 50%+1 of the delegates to say yes (i.e. abstentions count as a no) and some require 50%+1 of the votes cast (i.e. abstentions don't count either way).
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Andrian Caldar
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:23:00 -
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/me facepalms!
Well - one thing is for certain. If CCP ever feared that the CSM would constitute a unified front from the player base keeping them on their toes and making sure they stuck to their promises, then they need not worry at all now. How pathetic was that.......!?
In its very first "meeting' the CSM has managed to erode its authority completely. Will anyone bother to try to leverage the CSM from now on, or will it simply be reduced to being a channel for major alliances to try to manipulate the development of EVE for their own interests. Whichever it is - CSM as a concept has failed....
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Fifth Horseman
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Victor Valka I expect this thread to be at 10 pages when I get home in two hours.
Get to it! Chop-chop!
Whereas I expect some new forum rule that didn't exist before this thread was created to be in effect by time you get home. Especially since I have "scented" it already.
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Greme
Slacker Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink Darius is a champ :)
This.
Also thank you for this log. It brightened up my day with bowelfuls of laughter. And my bowels always needed a good laugh.
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:40:00 -
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Edited by: Slanty McGarglefist on 09/06/2008 13:40:41 Hop on board to the LOL train, tickets are free. What a shame, the power-hungry individual holds rule. We're all screwed. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
Doh! |
Father Dibbles
Self Aggrandisement Society
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:55:00 -
[103]
Disappointing to the point of despair.
May god save me, if it is right that he should do so...
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Face Palmer
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:56:00 -
[104]
I've been stuck in what seemed like largely unproductive meetings all day and then I come out and read this.
All I can say is, thank you CSM
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Slanty McGarglefist
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Posted - 2008.06.09 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Face Palmer I've been stuck in what seemed like largely unproductive meetings all day and then I come out and read this.
All I can say is, thank you CSM
For some reason, this character's name is quite appropriate. __________________________________________________
Originally by: CCP Wrangler No
Doh! |
Alz Shado
Ever Flow
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:04:00 -
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Motion to nominate the official background music for reading of the CSM Logs.
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"Kill a man one is a murderer; kill a million, a conqueror; kill them all, a God." -- Jean Rostand |
Valkazm
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:20:00 -
[107]
lol thanks for this its like reading jita local .......................................
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Phrast
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:21:00 -
[108]
Damn, thats one cluster****.
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Adaris
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:23:00 -
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This IS how democracy works guys. People aren't muted in Nth Korea, their just shot and as a result things work just fine there.
Make Love Not Warcraft. *******
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:31:00 -
[110]
Put nine elected, power-sharing politicians in an internet chat channel without even emoticons to help convey emotion and non-verbal queues and this is bound to happen. I'm not terribly surprised, to be honest, though I am amused. Let's see if the CSM can do better once they meet in person. ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |
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Slash Harnet
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:33:00 -
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This is crazy.
Good ol' CSM members, if you're reading this, you may want to look at getting a neutral NON-VOTING parliamentarian to run your meetings. The kind of bias in those logs is inexcusable for someone running that kind of meeting.
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Winterblink
Body Count Inc. Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic Put nine elected, power-sharing politicians in an internet chat channel without even emoticons to help convey emotion and non-verbal queues and this is bound to happen. I'm not terribly surprised, to be honest, though I am amused. Let's see if the CSM can do better once they meet in person.
I hope like hell that it's filmed. :)
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Tarminic Put nine elected, power-sharing politicians in an internet chat channel without even emoticons to help convey emotion and non-verbal queues and this is bound to happen. I'm not terribly surprised, to be honest, though I am amused. Let's see if the CSM can do better once they meet in person.
I hope like hell that it's filmed. :)
next pod cast needs dramatic readings of these logs
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Tarminic
Black Flame Industries
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Erotic Irony
Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Tarminic Put nine elected, power-sharing politicians in an internet chat channel without even emoticons to help convey emotion and non-verbal queues and this is bound to happen. I'm not terribly surprised, to be honest, though I am amused. Let's see if the CSM can do better once they meet in person.
I hope like hell that it's filmed. :)
next pod cast needs dramatic readings of these logs
WITH SEXY RESULTS
ABSOLUTELY ---------------- Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.81 (Updated 4/8) |
Verite Rendition
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:38:00 -
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And here I voted for Goum in hopes he'd ruin the CSM. I could have saved myself a lot of trouble and voted for Jade had I known he was so capable of destroying the CSM in such a short period of time.
At any rate, after reading that epic failure of a meeting, I do hope CCP steps in and does something to correct the situation. Clearly the CSM isn't working under the current ruleset.
PS I'll bet 5mil ISK that Jade either gets arrested or thrown out of CCP by security while the CSM is on their trip ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map |
Mortok Tristan
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Winterblink
Originally by: Tarminic Put nine elected, power-sharing politicians in an internet chat channel without even emoticons to help convey emotion and non-verbal queues and this is bound to happen. I'm not terribly surprised, to be honest, though I am amused. Let's see if the CSM can do better once they meet in person.
I hope like hell that it's filmed. :)
Reminds me of the movie, "12 angry men" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050083/ |
Molock Saronen
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic Put nine elected, power-sharing politicians in an internet chat channel without even emoticons to help convey emotion and non-verbal queues and this is bound to happen. I'm not terribly surprised, to be honest, though I am amused. Let's see if the CSM can do better once they meet in person.
I can just imagine it.. CCP Newsflash... Riot erupts after chairman tries to forcebly use ducktape
Are we sure Jade isn't a 'closet' Minmatar?? |
Aeontiouz
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Posted - 2008.06.09 14:53:00 -
[118]
Thanks for giving me a laugh, its like goonswarm, childrens in the council.
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:00:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain lol @ csm.
This tbh.
I'm getting more and more happy by the day that I decided to pull out of the running for what is quickly becoming a circus and a farce.
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Rakivic
Galactic Express Frontier Trade League
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Posted - 2008.06.09 15:05:00 -
[120]
I hate to say I told you you so but.....
I guess the the whole CSM thing goes down as just one more of the epic failures of eve
Maybe once they meat in person with reps from CCP thows cool (no pun intended) non violent Icelanders can defuse the situation with on the CSM board
Besides is it any wonder they are like this the CSM board is primarily made up of Americans
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